John B Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Rickie's doing exactly what AP needs him to do. He may be a good to average striker but he's the best dead ball specialist we've had since MLT- in his prime. Lallana is quick and with an eye for goals -bit like the young Channon and Connolly - again when fit- has an air of George O'Brien about him (those with memories fron the 60's) All entertaining, elegant stuff but IMHO what we need now is ..a big, tough ugly CF who can upset defences... (former models were;type George Kirby, Joe Jordan, Iain Dowie come to mind. they didn't score every week but they put real fear into every defender they played against.) Dont disagree in the least but what has it got to do with Lambert going to Leeds Pardew rates him very highly but like the previous poster I dont think Newcastle would want him and SFC would not want to lose him as he is key to us reaching the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 If Newcastle want Him let's see if they've got the balls to make an offer and then we will then see what our true intentions are, depending on if that offer is accepted. It's not going to happen,Newcastle can't afford him and we don't need to sell him,what message would that send out to the fans and the rest of the league if you go and sell one of the best players in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 After seeing Lambert at Leeds, argueably the best team in this league, I honestly believe that he will struggle against the better CCC sides. I think with his lack of pace he would struggle against better defenders. But I suspect given the option RL would jump at a mov to Newcastle, bigger club, higher league and the opportunity to play in the Prem next year. I however doubt that Newcastle would want him. In fairness he was asked to do a job that game, which he did do. Its the game plan at times that can make Lambert look average. Pardew says he could play in the Prem now, so who are we to doubt that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Dont disagree in the least but what has it got to do with Lambert going to Leeds Pardew rates him very highly but like the previous poster I dont think Newcastle would want him and SFC would not want to lose him as he is key to us reaching the playoffs. my point was that we are VERY dependant on RL for goals - and that's nice - but IF he were to go, then we'd need to re-think our whole strategy up front. At present, There isn't any toughness, or grit .. Lots of skill from AL and DC and some neat finishing. Papa Waigo is a threat in his own way, but all season I've been looking for a tough CF to emerge, and it hasn't happened. A front line without Lambert would look very weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 my point was that we are VERY dependant on RL for goals - and that's nice - but IF he were to go, then we'd need to re-think our whole strategy up front. At present, There isn't any toughness, or grit .. Lots of skill from AL and DC and some neat finishing. Papa Waigo is a threat in his own way, but all season I've been looking for a tough CF to emerge, and it hasn't happened. A front line without Lambert would look very weak. Yes I totally agree but I dont think he will go because of that point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 my point was that we are VERY dependant on RL for goals - and that's nice - but IF he were to go, then we'd need to re-think our whole strategy up front. At present, There isn't any toughness, or grit .. Lots of skill from AL and DC and some neat finishing. Papa Waigo is a threat in his own way, but all season I've been looking for a tough CF to emerge, and it hasn't happened. A front line without Lambert would look very weak. As true as that is, arent nearly every club usually dependent on 1 top CF? Sure teams get goals from elsewhere but usually every team has a main CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 In fairness he was asked to do a job that game, which he did do. Its the game plan at times that can make Lambert look average. Pardew says he could play in the Prem now, so who are we to doubt that? He maybe able to play in the Premiership but as he lacks speed I do not think he would be that successfull. Even good CCC Strikers seem to struggle in the Premiership such as Nugent and the striker from Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 He maybe able to play in the Premiership but as he lacks speed I do not think he would be that successfull. Even good CCC Strikers seem to struggle in the Premiership such as Nugent and the striker from Wolves The general consensus is that you need speed in the premiership. Im not totally sold on that argument. Most teams in the lower half of the division have target men, that can chip in with some goals. Bolton-Davies,Elmander Hull-Cousin,JVOH West Ham-Cole Even Fulham have Zamora and Villa with Heskey and Carew What Lambert has over all ive mentioned is his ability from a set piece to usually make the GK work. I think if he went to Newcastle or any other lower half team tbh he would get 10-12 goals. That is a great return for a team fighting to stay up or achieve mid table safety. Just my opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 The general consensus is that you need speed in the premiership. Im not totally sold on that argument. Most teams in the lower half of the division have target men, that can chip in with some goals. Bolton-Davies,Elmander Hull-Cousin,JVOH West Ham-Cole Even Fulham have Zamora and Villa with Heskey and Carew What Lambert has over all ive mentioned is his ability from a set piece to usually make the GK work. I think if he went to Newcastle or any other lower half team tbh he would get 10-12 goals. That is a great return for a team fighting to stay up or achieve mid table safety. Just my opinion of course I see that Beckford maybe wanted by other clubs than Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I see that Beckford maybe wanted by other clubs than Newcastle What has that got to do with Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 What has that got to do with Lambert? If Beckford goes somewhere else maybe Newcastle possibly will want someone like Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 If Beckford goes somewhere else maybe Newcastle possibly will want someone like Lambert Maybe they would, ive already given my reasons as to why I think he would do a decent job in the bottom half of the EPL. However, FWIW, I dont personally think Lambert will be going anywhere soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Not sure if this has been raised on the thread, but even if you believed Newcastle were interested, Lambert cannot register with another team (other than loan) this season as he played for Bristol Rovers on the opening day (and scored!). FIFA prevent more than 2 pemanent club appearances each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 However, FWIW, I dont personally think Lambert will be going anywhere soon. Neither do I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 This is made up to quicken the Jermaine Beckford to Newcastle transfer. So don't worry. It is also impossible as would also have to get around rules about numbers of teams you can play for in a season no matter what rubbish the Mirror says. Plus I really can't see Mr Cortese upsetting the fanbase and agreeing to let him go so soon after buying him when Saints really don't need the money. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-boss-Chris-Hughton-keeping-tabs-on-Southampton-striker-Rickie-Lambert-article281653.html tell the Geordies to go f88k themselves :smt116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 As true as that is, arent nearly every club usually dependent on 1 top CF? Sure teams get goals from elsewhere but usually every team has a main CF. After all these years we've seen that far too often, and that's the problem. Thank goodness, we had MLT on- form for so many seasons - without him we'd have been in L1.... 10 years ago ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 After all these years we've seen that far too often, and that's the problem. Thank goodness, we had MLT on- form for so many seasons - without him we'd have been in L1.... 10 years ago ! I dont follow your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 You dont seem to realise that SFC may have done the same thing with Rasiak when he played for Derby and Spurs in the same season and then for us on loan Thanks to alcohol, I can't remember what I did last week! I'd be suprised if Rasiak played for Spurs at all, I thought he'd been at Derby for longer than one season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWass Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 To those who are saying it cant happen because of the rules, re-read the story fellas - interested on LOAN then signing permanently in Summer - which he would totally be allowed to do under the rules. Loans dont count to the FIFA rules. Simples. Clubs take money for players outside transfer windows, loan them then sign them then window opens all the time. Similar thing could happen with Rickie whether its Newcastle or anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 To those who are saying it cant happen because of the rules, re-read the story fellas - interested on LOAN then signing permanently in Summer - which he would totally be allowed to do under the rules. Loans dont count to the FIFA rules. Simples. Clubs take money for players outside transfer windows, loan them then sign them then window opens all the time. Similar thing could happen with Rickie whether its Newcastle or anyone else. my understanding of it is they can sign him on loan or however they want but wont be able to play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Thanks to alcohol, I can't remember what I did last week! I'd be suprised if Rasiak played for Spurs at all, I thought he'd been at Derby for longer than one season... Rasiak joined English Championship side Derby County on 24 September 2004 for a free transfer. In his first season with the club he scored 16 goals in 35 matches, as Derby finished in fourth place, but failed to get through the play-offs. After failing to gain promotion, the club were under financial pressure and were forced by their bankers to raise cash,[1] which led to Rasiak being sold to Premier League side Tottenham Hotspur for a fee said to be up to £3m Tottenham Hotspur Rasiak signed on 31 August 2005, the final day of the transfer window. On his arrival, manager Martin Jol described Rasiak as "a tall target man, a hard-working, honest player with a good goal scoring record and played 8 times Southampton In February 2006, Rasiak was loaned from Spurs to Championship side Southampton, where his former Derby manager George Burley was now in charge. The deal was structured initially as a three-month loan, before becoming permanent in early May 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 my understanding of it is they can sign him on loan or however they want but wont be able to play him. Players can play for teams on a loan basis regardless of the two team rule. I think the two team rule comes in to play when talking about players registrations, however if he moved on loan with a view to a permanent deal that would be allowed according to current FIFA rules. That being said, i can't see him going anywhere, Newcastle are not in the best of states financially, and we have no need to sell and are by all accounts gunning for the playoffs, so why on earth would we sell the leagues top goal scorer ?? As for what people say about Lambert in CCC and prem, i have my doubts, on a few occasions this year i have seen him dominated by big centre halfs and that has pretty much taken him out of the game in a long ball sense. However this is more the fault of tactics, surely if we are not hitting him long ball, go to his feet ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 I do not believe we will sell any of our best players in January, the problem will be in the summer if we do not get promoted which is still fairly unlikely. That is when players heads will be turned if clubs are interested and i am sure it will not matter if we are a selling club or not as if the player wants to go it will be hard and sometimes foolish to stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Dont disagree in the least but what has it got to do with Lambert going to Leeds Pardew rates him very highly but like the previous poster I dont think Newcastle would want him and SFC would not want to lose him as he is key to us reaching the playoffs. Hughton Appears to agree http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2010/01/12/nufc-deny-chase-for-striker-rickie-lambert-72703-25580618/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Can't see why Newcastle would want Lambert. They look likely to be going up and would surely be looking at players who CDAJFT in the Prem. Lambert I don't think is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Can't see why Newcastle would want Lambert. They look likely to be going up and would surely be looking at players who CDAJFT in the Prem. Lambert I don't think is that good. Doubt if Newcastle do want Lambert. What is slightly disturbing is that someone sees a need to create this type of rumour. I know there's always a lot of silly gab at transfer time but some of it is doubtlessly started by agents trying to create interest in their clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Now picked up by the Echo - good bit of investigative journalism again!! copycat .... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4846572.Hughton_rules_out_Lambert_move/?ref=twt&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=saintsfc%2C+southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Now picked up by the Echo - good bit of investigative journalism again!! copycat .... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4846572.Hughton_rules_out_Lambert_move/?ref=twt&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=saintsfc%2C+southampton There is probably co-operation between local newspapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 There is probably co-operation between local newspapers More likely they read your post on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Doubt if Newcastle do want Lambert. What is slightly disturbing is that someone sees a need to create this type of rumour. I know there's always a lot of silly gab at transfer time but some of it is doubtlessly started by agents trying to create interest in their clients. No, just journos putting 2 and 2 together and making 10. Newcastle want to sign Beckford, but if they can't do a deal, who will they go for? Well if they are looking at JB, arguable the bset striker in League 1, maybe they'll change their target to the 'next best' L1 striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 (edited) No, just journos putting 2 and 2 together and making 10. Newcastle want to sign Beckford, but if they can't do a deal, who will they go for? Well if they are looking at JB, arguable the bset striker in League 1, maybe they'll change their target to the 'next best' L1 striker? But isn't their alternative a loan deal for that bloke who used to play for Watford (and most other clubs) Marlon ....or something like that. Edited 12 January, 2010 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Well if they are looking at JB, arguable the bset striker in League 1, Thats very kind of you:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Doubt if Newcastle do want Lambert. What is slightly disturbing is that someone sees a need to create this type of rumour. I know there's always a lot of silly gab at transfer time but some of it is doubtlessly started by agents trying to create interest in their clients. If Lambert were looking for a move or a contract renewal was coming up, that could well be the case. In this instance however I suspect it's just very lazy creative journalism. "Newcastle looking for a new striker... let me see... scoring charts for this season... oh look, this Lambert bloke's got a few in League 1, he'll do". Anyone can start rumours like this. The difference is that this Mirror bloke gets paid to do it. It's very easy, and quite good fun actually. Nottingham Forest apparently interested in Schneiderlin. Davies wants to add more creativity to midfield and said he was impressed with Morgan at the season ender at the City Ground last season. I've got a friend at work who goes to the same Taekwondo class as Morgan's girlfriend. She says he doesn't feel Saints suit his style of play and would like to play at a higher level. BBC reported as much on their website last night. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/Championship/Teams/NottsForest/ArticleSchneiderlinin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 (edited) If Lambert were looking for a move or a contract renewal was coming up, that could well be the case. In this instance however I suspect it's just very lazy creative journalism. "Newcastle looking for a new striker... let me see... scoring charts for this season... oh look, this Lambert bloke's got a few in League 1, he'll do". Anyone can start rumours like this. The difference is that this Mirror bloke gets paid to do it. It's very easy, and quite good fun actually. Nottingham Forest apparently interested in Schneiderlin. Davies wants to add more creativity to midfield and said he was impressed with Morgan at the season ender at the City Ground last season. I've got a friend at work who goes to the same Taekwondo class as Morgan's girlfriend. She says he doesn't feel Saints suit his style of play and would like to play at a higher level. BBC reported as much on their website last night. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/Championship/Teams/NottsForest/ArticleSchneiderlinin.. But then I've often told you that I know someone who knows someone who keeps saying that Morgan isn't over happy with League 1.If a club comes in for him I expect him to leave,probably why we're looking at midfielders . NB what's with the cats that look like Hitler stuff, bit weird really. Edited 12 January, 2010 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycombe Saint Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/484..._Lambert_move/ End of rumour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/484..._Lambert_move/ End of rumour! Actually it isn't: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2804093/Lambert_declares_Georgie_switch_interest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Actually it isn't: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2804093/Lambert_declares_Georgie_switch_interest.html lol that takes me to an ebay page for a prosthetic leg. Could be useful as a spare for one of those sex robots sometime in the future, but not really much help right at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 lol that takes me to an ebay page for a prosthetic leg. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 lol that takes me to an ebay page for a prosthetic leg. Could be useful as a spare for one of those sex robots sometime in the future, but not really much help right at the moment Something wrong with all the links then, Why would a sex robot need a prosthetic leg? Too many knee tremblers I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Actually it isn't: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2804093/Lambert_declares_Georgie_switch_interest.html :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Actually it isn't: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2804093/Lambert_declares_Georgie_switch_interest.html Is this a story of Helen McCartney in Dancing on Ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 :confused: You'd think, now that we are the Man City of L1, that we could afford to buy matching socks for all the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 :confused: wheres lamberts other leg :confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 You'd think, now that we are the Man City of L1, that we could afford to buy matching socks for all the players They do have matching socks its just the way some wear them, tape, rolled over etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 wheres lamberts other leg :confused::confused: See Arizonas post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Is this a story of Helen McCartney in Dancing on Ice? Blimey, has Helen McCartney got a wooden leg too? Bit of a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 See Arizonas post above found it! his left leg has to be worth more then that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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