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John B

John B

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Rickie's doing exactly what AP needs him to do.

He may be a good to average striker but he's the best dead ball specialist we've had since MLT- in his prime. Lallana is quick and with an eye for goals -bit like the young Channon and Connolly - again when fit- has an air of George O'Brien about him (those with memories fron the 60's) All entertaining, elegant stuff but IMHO what we need now is ..a big, tough ugly CF who can upset defences...

 

(former models were;type George Kirby, Joe Jordan, Iain Dowie come to mind.

they didn't score every week but they put real fear into every defender they played against.)

 

Dont disagree in the least but what has it got to do with Lambert going to Leeds

 

Pardew rates him very highly but like the previous poster I dont think Newcastle would want him and SFC would not want to lose him as he is key to us reaching the playoffs.

lordswoodsaints

lordswoodsaints

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If Newcastle want Him let's see if they've got the balls to make an offer and then we will then see what our true intentions are, depending on if that offer is accepted.

 

It's not going to happen,Newcastle can't afford him and we don't need to sell him,what message would that send out to the fans and the rest of the league if you go and sell one of the best players in the league?

saint_bert

saint_bert

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After seeing Lambert at Leeds, argueably the best team in this league, I honestly believe that he will struggle against the better CCC sides. I think with his lack of pace he would struggle against better defenders.

 

But I suspect given the option RL would jump at a mov to Newcastle, bigger club, higher league and the opportunity to play in the Prem next year. I however doubt that Newcastle would want him.

 

In fairness he was asked to do a job that game, which he did do.

 

Its the game plan at times that can make Lambert look average.

 

Pardew says he could play in the Prem now, so who are we to doubt that?

david in sweden

david in sweden

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Dont disagree in the least but what has it got to do with Lambert going to Leeds

 

Pardew rates him very highly but like the previous poster I dont think Newcastle would want him and SFC would not want to lose him as he is key to us reaching the playoffs.

 

 

my point was that we are VERY dependant on RL for goals - and that's nice - but IF he were to go, then we'd need to

re-think our whole strategy up front. At present, There isn't any toughness, or grit ..

Lots of skill from AL and DC and some neat finishing. Papa Waigo is a threat in his own way, but all season I've been looking for a tough CF to emerge, and it hasn't happened.

 

A front line without Lambert would look very weak.

John B

John B

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my point was that we are VERY dependant on RL for goals - and that's nice - but IF he were to go, then we'd need to

re-think our whole strategy up front. At present, There isn't any toughness, or grit ..

Lots of skill from AL and DC and some neat finishing. Papa Waigo is a threat in his own way, but all season I've been looking for a tough CF to emerge, and it hasn't happened.

 

A front line without Lambert would look very weak.

 

Yes I totally agree but I dont think he will go because of that point .

saint_bert

saint_bert

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my point was that we are VERY dependant on RL for goals - and that's nice - but IF he were to go, then we'd need to

re-think our whole strategy up front. At present, There isn't any toughness, or grit ..

Lots of skill from AL and DC and some neat finishing. Papa Waigo is a threat in his own way, but all season I've been looking for a tough CF to emerge, and it hasn't happened.

 

A front line without Lambert would look very weak.

 

As true as that is, arent nearly every club usually dependent on 1 top CF? Sure teams get goals from elsewhere but usually every team has a main CF.

John B

John B

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In fairness he was asked to do a job that game, which he did do.

 

Its the game plan at times that can make Lambert look average.

 

Pardew says he could play in the Prem now, so who are we to doubt that?

 

He maybe able to play in the Premiership but as he lacks speed I do not think he would be that successfull.

 

 

Even good CCC Strikers seem to struggle in the Premiership such as Nugent and the striker from Wolves

saint_bert

saint_bert

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He maybe able to play in the Premiership but as he lacks speed I do not think he would be that successfull.

 

 

Even good CCC Strikers seem to struggle in the Premiership such as Nugent and the striker from Wolves

 

The general consensus is that you need speed in the premiership.

 

Im not totally sold on that argument.

 

Most teams in the lower half of the division have target men, that can chip in with some goals.

 

Bolton-Davies,Elmander

Hull-Cousin,JVOH

West Ham-Cole

 

Even Fulham have Zamora and Villa with Heskey and Carew

 

What Lambert has over all ive mentioned is his ability from a set piece to usually make the GK work. I think if he went to Newcastle or any other lower half team tbh he would get 10-12 goals. That is a great return for a team fighting to stay up or achieve mid table safety.

 

Just my opinion of course

John B

John B

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The general consensus is that you need speed in the premiership.

 

Im not totally sold on that argument.

 

Most teams in the lower half of the division have target men, that can chip in with some goals.

 

Bolton-Davies,Elmander

Hull-Cousin,JVOH

West Ham-Cole

 

Even Fulham have Zamora and Villa with Heskey and Carew

 

What Lambert has over all ive mentioned is his ability from a set piece to usually make the GK work. I think if he went to Newcastle or any other lower half team tbh he would get 10-12 goals. That is a great return for a team fighting to stay up or achieve mid table safety.

 

Just my opinion of course

 

I see that Beckford maybe wanted by other clubs than Newcastle

saint_bert

saint_bert

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If Beckford goes somewhere else maybe Newcastle possibly will want someone like Lambert

 

Maybe they would, ive already given my reasons as to why I think he would do a decent job in the bottom half of the EPL.

 

However, FWIW, I dont personally think Lambert will be going anywhere soon.

Forester

Forester

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Not sure if this has been raised on the thread, but even if you believed Newcastle were interested, Lambert cannot register with another team (other than loan) this season as he played for Bristol Rovers on the opening day (and scored!). FIFA prevent more than 2 pemanent club appearances each season.

JustMike

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This is made up to quicken the Jermaine Beckford to Newcastle transfer. So don't worry. :)

 

It is also impossible as would also have to get around rules about numbers of teams you can play for in a season no matter what rubbish the Mirror says. Plus I really can't see Mr Cortese upsetting the fanbase and agreeing to let him go so soon after buying him when Saints really don't need the money.

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-boss-Chris-Hughton-keeping-tabs-on-Southampton-striker-Rickie-Lambert-article281653.html

 

tell the Geordies to go f88k themselves :smt116

david in sweden

david in sweden

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As true as that is, arent nearly every club usually dependent on 1 top CF? Sure teams get goals from elsewhere but usually every team has a main CF.

 

After all these years we've seen that far too often, and that's the problem.

Thank goodness, we had MLT on- form for so many seasons - without him we'd have been in L1.... 10 years ago !

saint_bert

saint_bert

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After all these years we've seen that far too often, and that's the problem.

Thank goodness, we had MLT on- form for so many seasons - without him we'd have been in L1.... 10 years ago !

 

I dont follow your point?

SNSUN

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You dont seem to realise that SFC may have done the same thing with Rasiak

 

when he played for Derby and Spurs in the same season and then for us on loan

 

Thanks to alcohol, I can't remember what I did last week!

 

I'd be suprised if Rasiak played for Spurs at all, I thought he'd been at Derby for longer than one season...

TheWass

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To those who are saying it cant happen because of the rules, re-read the story fellas - interested on LOAN then signing permanently in Summer - which he would totally be allowed to do under the rules.

 

Loans dont count to the FIFA rules. Simples. Clubs take money for players outside transfer windows, loan them then sign them then window opens all the time. Similar thing could happen with Rickie whether its Newcastle or anyone else.

JustMike

JustMike

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To those who are saying it cant happen because of the rules, re-read the story fellas - interested on LOAN then signing permanently in Summer - which he would totally be allowed to do under the rules.

 

Loans dont count to the FIFA rules. Simples. Clubs take money for players outside transfer windows, loan them then sign them then window opens all the time. Similar thing could happen with Rickie whether its Newcastle or anyone else.

 

my understanding of it is they can sign him on loan or however they want but wont be able to play him.

John B

John B

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Thanks to alcohol, I can't remember what I did last week!

 

I'd be suprised if Rasiak played for Spurs at all, I thought he'd been at Derby for longer than one season...

 

Rasiak joined English Championship side Derby County on 24 September 2004 for a free transfer. In his first season with the club he scored 16 goals in 35 matches, as Derby finished in fourth place, but failed to get through the play-offs.

 

After failing to gain promotion, the club were under financial pressure and were forced by their bankers to raise cash,[1] which led to Rasiak being sold to Premier League side Tottenham Hotspur for a fee said to be up to £3m

 

Tottenham Hotspur

Rasiak signed on 31 August 2005, the final day of the transfer window. On his arrival, manager Martin Jol described Rasiak as "a tall target man, a hard-working, honest player with a good goal scoring record and played 8 times

 

 

Southampton

In February 2006, Rasiak was loaned from Spurs to Championship side Southampton, where his former Derby manager George Burley was now in charge. The deal was structured initially as a three-month loan, before becoming permanent in early May 2006

Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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my understanding of it is they can sign him on loan or however they want but wont be able to play him.

 

Players can play for teams on a loan basis regardless of the two team rule.

 

I think the two team rule comes in to play when talking about players registrations, however if he moved on loan with a view to a permanent deal that would be allowed according to current FIFA rules.

 

That being said, i can't see him going anywhere, Newcastle are not in the best of states financially, and we have no need to sell and are by all accounts gunning for the playoffs, so why on earth would we sell the leagues top goal scorer ??

 

As for what people say about Lambert in CCC and prem, i have my doubts, on a few occasions this year i have seen him dominated by big centre halfs and that has pretty much taken him out of the game in a long ball sense. However this is more the fault of tactics, surely if we are not hitting him long ball, go to his feet ??

northam soul

northam soul

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I do not believe we will sell any of our best players in January, the problem will be in the summer if we do not get promoted which is still fairly unlikely.

That is when players heads will be turned if clubs are interested and i am sure it will not matter if we are a selling club or not as if the player wants to go it will be hard and sometimes foolish to stop them.

Arizona

Arizona

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Can't see why Newcastle would want Lambert. They look likely to be going up and would surely be looking at players who CDAJFT in the Prem. Lambert I don't think is that good.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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Can't see why Newcastle would want Lambert. They look likely to be going up and would surely be looking at players who CDAJFT in the Prem. Lambert I don't think is that good.

 

Doubt if Newcastle do want Lambert. What is slightly disturbing is that someone sees a need to create this type of rumour. I know there's always a lot of silly gab at transfer time but some of it is doubtlessly started by agents trying to create interest in their clients.

krissyboy31

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Doubt if Newcastle do want Lambert. What is slightly disturbing is that someone sees a need to create this type of rumour. I know there's always a lot of silly gab at transfer time but some of it is doubtlessly started by agents trying to create interest in their clients.

 

No, just journos putting 2 and 2 together and making 10. Newcastle want to sign Beckford, but if they can't do a deal, who will they go for? Well if they are looking at JB, arguable the bset striker in League 1, maybe they'll change their target to the 'next best' L1 striker?

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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No, just journos putting 2 and 2 together and making 10. Newcastle want to sign Beckford, but if they can't do a deal, who will they go for? Well if they are looking at JB, arguable the bset striker in League 1, maybe they'll change their target to the 'next best' L1 striker?

 

But isn't their alternative a loan deal for that bloke who used to play for Watford (and most other clubs) Marlon ....or something like that.

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Arizona

Arizona

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Doubt if Newcastle do want Lambert. What is slightly disturbing is that someone sees a need to create this type of rumour. I know there's always a lot of silly gab at transfer time but some of it is doubtlessly started by agents trying to create interest in their clients.

 

If Lambert were looking for a move or a contract renewal was coming up, that could well be the case. In this instance however I suspect it's just very lazy creative journalism. "Newcastle looking for a new striker... let me see... scoring charts for this season... oh look, this Lambert bloke's got a few in League 1, he'll do".

 

Anyone can start rumours like this. The difference is that this Mirror bloke gets paid to do it. It's very easy, and quite good fun actually.

 

Nottingham Forest apparently interested in Schneiderlin. Davies wants to add more creativity to midfield and said he was impressed with Morgan at the season ender at the City Ground last season. I've got a friend at work who goes to the same Taekwondo class as Morgan's girlfriend. She says he doesn't feel Saints suit his style of play and would like to play at a higher level. BBC reported as much on their website last night.

 

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/Championship/Teams/NottsForest/ArticleSchneiderlinin..

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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If Lambert were looking for a move or a contract renewal was coming up, that could well be the case. In this instance however I suspect it's just very lazy creative journalism. "Newcastle looking for a new striker... let me see... scoring charts for this season... oh look, this Lambert bloke's got a few in League 1, he'll do".

 

Anyone can start rumours like this. The difference is that this Mirror bloke gets paid to do it. It's very easy, and quite good fun actually.

 

Nottingham Forest apparently interested in Schneiderlin. Davies wants to add more creativity to midfield and said he was impressed with Morgan at the season ender at the City Ground last season. I've got a friend at work who goes to the same Taekwondo class as Morgan's girlfriend. She says he doesn't feel Saints suit his style of play and would like to play at a higher level. BBC reported as much on their website last night.

 

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/Championship/Teams/NottsForest/ArticleSchneiderlinin..

 

But then I've often told you that I know someone who knows someone who keeps saying that Morgan isn't over happy with League 1.If a club comes in for him I expect him to leave,probably why we're looking at midfielders .

 

NB what's with the cats that look like Hitler stuff, bit weird really.

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Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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lol that takes me to an ebay page for a prosthetic leg.

 

Could be useful as a spare for one of those sex robots sometime in the future, but not really much help right at the moment

 

 

Something wrong with all the links then, Why would a sex robot need a prosthetic leg? Too many knee tremblers I suppose

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