Robsk II Posted 14 June, 2009 Author Posted 14 June, 2009 Imperialism is generally held to be advocating policies of expansion of sovereign rule to foreign / over sea lands. It's also associated with economic and political influence over weaker nation states. Fascism is a nationalist, authoritarian ideology which advocates single party states, and does not tolerate criticism or opposition. They usually subscribe to the concept of 'social darwinism', believing that nations and peoples must assert themselves over others to prove dominance, usually by combat. While some similarities exist, the simple fact of the matter is that imperialism does not necessitate massive repression. Imperialism can control and benefit from other countries in a relatively benign manner. Repression and negative acts, war etc, may happen as a part of it, but fascism demands these things.
Mole Posted 14 June, 2009 Posted 14 June, 2009 Imperialism is generally held to be advocating policies of expansion of sovereign rule to foreign / over sea lands. It's also associated with economic and political influence over weaker nation states. Fascism is a nationalist, authoritarian ideology which advocates single party states, and does not tolerate criticism or opposition. They usually subscribe to the concept of 'social darwinism', believing that nations and peoples must assert themselves over others to prove dominance, usually by combat. While some similarities exist, the simple fact of the matter is that imperialism does not necessitate massive repression. Imperialism can control and benefit from other countries in a relatively benign manner. Repression and negative acts, war etc, may happen as a part of it, but fascism demands these things. So the concentration camps in Kenya (post war) didn't happen?
Robsk II Posted 14 June, 2009 Author Posted 14 June, 2009 You stupid f*cking idiot. You can't even read, can you? or appropriately take in information. I have VERY CLEARLY stated that imperialism can in turn become oppressive, and that some acts within it may have highly similar traits to fascist policies. The key difference is that fascism has these this kind of thing as a fundamental tenet; imperialism does not. You thick idiot. if you actually argue effectively, people might actually listen. I mean, it's exasperating. You've just picked up on something I've said, crystal clear, quoted a tiny segment, and then tried to pick a hole in it which I have clearly addressed not only in the same paragraph, but as the whole sodding point of the bit I wrote!
Mole Posted 14 June, 2009 Posted 14 June, 2009 Actually Rob let's forget it. I could quite easily show that our grandparent weren't fighting fascism - they were fighting to prevent a conquest, but i can't be arsed.
Mole Posted 14 June, 2009 Posted 14 June, 2009 You stupid f*cking idiot. You can't even read, can you? or appropriately take in information. I have VERY CLEARLY stated that imperialism can in turn become oppressive, and that some acts within it may have highly similar traits to fascist policies. The key difference is that fascism has these this kind of thing as a fundamental tenet; imperialism does not. You thick idiot. if you actually argue effectively, people might actually listen. I mean, it's exasperating. You've just picked up on something I've said, crystal clear, quoted a tiny segment, and then tried to pick a hole in it which I have clearly addressed not only in the same paragraph, but as the whole sodding point of the bit I wrote! Don't cry ffs.
Robsk II Posted 14 June, 2009 Author Posted 14 June, 2009 Do you really think I don't know that? Yes, it became convenient to say it was all a fight against fascism after, and indeed at the time, but do you reallyu believe anyone here is retarded enough not to understand that it was a bit more complex than that? Christ on a bike.
Robsk II Posted 14 June, 2009 Author Posted 14 June, 2009 That's a top notch answer. Why not just admit you're really, really dim?
Mole Posted 14 June, 2009 Posted 14 June, 2009 Do you really think I don't know that? Yes, it became convenient to say it was all a fight against fascism after, and indeed at the time, but do you reallyu believe anyone here is retarded enough not to understand that it was a bit more complex than that? Christ on a bike. So when it's stated that our granparents were fighting fascism it's untrue. thanks for stating this. It's good to see you are eductated enough to realise this.
Robsk II Posted 14 June, 2009 Author Posted 14 June, 2009 Some of them did it for that reason. Some of them did it because they were just following the flag / duty etc. Some did it because they heard of what was happening to those oppressed by the Axis. Some did it for adventure. Some did it because their mates did. Many did it for a whole mix of these things, and some would have sympathised with fascism. There's no secret there.
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 14 June, 2009 Posted 14 June, 2009 His response was tob ask if Nick griffin was a father figure now, but Atti**** isn't worth the hassle. He's just an unfunny geek. you see nick griffin as a father figure. there, i said it.
Dicko Posted 15 June, 2009 Posted 15 June, 2009 They've arrested 3 youths today - aged 17,17,15 They cannot be named for legal reasons This is total crap, an indication of what's wrong with society - if these tossers have committed a horrible act like this, they should be named & shamed
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 15 June, 2009 Posted 15 June, 2009 One by one put them in a room with a Stag for 5 minutes, no costly psychological reports, then babysat through the judicial system, only to be handed out a pathetic sentance, these scum will progress to carry out more sinister crimes than this one, so cull them now.
Robsk II Posted 15 June, 2009 Author Posted 15 June, 2009 They've arrested 3 youths today - aged 17,17,15 They cannot be named for legal reasons This is total crap, an indication of what's wrong with society - if these tossers have committed a horrible act like this, they should be named & shamed Still think this should only be possible after being found guilty.
captain sensible Posted 15 June, 2009 Posted 15 June, 2009 I poisoned some rats a few years ago and finnished them off with the back of a shovel. Do you consider that cruel or kind? I think you may have the qualities, experience, and persona for the position of Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Force. Are you available for interview, and what are your salary requirements?
Weston Super Saint Posted 15 June, 2009 Posted 15 June, 2009 I think you may have the qualities, experience, and persona for the position of Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Force. Are you available for interview, and what are your salary requirements? Strangely, also for a position as a rat catcher with Rentokil.
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 15 June, 2009 Posted 15 June, 2009 Strangely, also for a position as a rat catcher with Rentokil. i dont know why you bother to reply to threads. nothing you say is ever interesting, insightful or even remotely funny. i would even go as far to say that i prefer stanley (mole) as a poster than you. i genuinely have more respect for mole than you. genuinely. mole has a ludicrous point of view which i absolutely despise, but at least he has one. you don't even have one.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 15 June, 2009 Posted 15 June, 2009 They've arrested 3 youths today - aged 17,17,15 They cannot be named for legal reasons This is total crap, an indication of what's wrong with society - if these tossers have committed a horrible act like this, they should be named & shamed I agree, if they are found guilty.
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 June, 2009 Posted 16 June, 2009 i dont know why you bother to reply to threads. nothing you say is ever interesting, insightful or even remotely funny. i would even go as far to say that i prefer stanley (mole) as a poster than you. i genuinely have more respect for mole than you. genuinely. mole has a ludicrous point of view which i absolutely despise, but at least he has one. you don't even have one. LOL. Troll.
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 June, 2009 Posted 16 June, 2009 Troll LOL. Will KH be along in a minute to add her two pence worth?
Mole Posted 16 June, 2009 Posted 16 June, 2009 LOL. Will KH be along in a minute to add her two pence worth? They're not the same poster according to Ponty.
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 June, 2009 Posted 16 June, 2009 They're not the same poster according to Ponty. Silly me, how could I forget
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