Next Seasons Attendances.

[Son of Bob]

If, for arguments sake, the Pinnacle bid goes through as expected and MLT comes in at some sort of board level capacity, how do you think attendances will go next season?

 

I genuinely believe they will increase over this seasons average.

[Saints foreva]

Yeah, with Rupert gone now I can see us getting a bit more through the gates.

 

And if we manage to do well, I see no reason why we can't get 24,000-26,000.

[70's Mike]

i voted for higher but it does need a good start at home

[Thedelldays]

should winning become a more frequent event then 20K plus at the start of the season easily... should we string good winning streaks together then 24k+ and full house should we be pushing for promotion (somehow)

[Saint_Ash]

Depends on the season ticket prices and the prices per game. Seeing as won't need to pay off a mortgage and have a load of Debt I think it would be nice to see prices drop to around 15-20 quid a game. It would certainly be more appealing to fans then.

[Micky]

should winning become a more frequent event then 20K plus at the start of the season easily... should we string good winning streaks together then 24k+ and full house should we be pushing for promotion (somehow)

 

Ahhh yet more 'pearls of wisdom' from that well known poster who gave his his last prediction in the now infamous 'Wotte will keep us up' thread.

 

I hope your latest look into your crystal ball is closer the mark than that last one TDD...!

[70's Mike]

Depends on the season ticket prices and the prices per game. Seeing as won't need to pay off a mortgage and have a load of Debt I think it would be nice to see prices drop to around 15-20 quid a game. It would certainly be more appealing to fans then.

 

depends on whether the new owner has borrowed to buy, like liverpools owners

[lordswoodsaints]

i dont think MLT on the board will make a lot of difference to the size of the crowd but i think that his managerial decision will make a difference.....get the right name and the crowds will rise,go for the cheap option and they will fall.

people want to have confidence that the pinnacle/mlt group will spend the money,especially after last years cutbacks and getting a decent name as manager will show they mean business and are not just bumbling by on the cheap with their fingers crossed that something good will happen.

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

I salute anybody voting for 'higher' as I think the 'stay away cos of Rupert' factor is vastly overplayed. I would be delighted with 'same' and suspect the figure may be lower - especially early on. Get a few wins under our belt and then you may see a few come back.

 

Another factor is that it is going to be late June at best before STs go on sale. Not helpful.

[St_Tel49]

They may increase to begin with. What happens after that will depend on results - just as it did this year. The number who boycotted just because of Lowe are a lot less than they fondly imagine. The only ones I know of post on here.

[Lets B Avenue]

I salute anybody voting for 'higher' as I think the 'stay away cos of Rupert' factor is vastly overplayed. I would be delighted with 'same' and suspect the figure may be lower - especially early on. Get a few wins under our belt and then you may see a few come back.

 

Another factor is that it is going to be late June at best before STs go on sale. Not helpful.

 

Do you need a lift to the ground, or are the streets considered safe enough for you to walk?

[Saint_Ash]

depends on whether the new owner has borrowed to buy' date=' like liverpools owners[/quote']

 

Yeah, that's a good point. Especially if it's that rich fella who uses debt to make his millions, the one who owes Barclays bank a few bob!

[Mole]

Higher. The feelbad factor because of Lowe and Wilde cannot be underestimated.

[SaintRichmond]

If, for arguments sake, the Pinnacle bid goes through as expected and MLT comes in at some sort of board level capacity, how do you think attendances will go next season?

 

I genuinely believe they will increase over this seasons average.

 

 

Depends on ONE thing ....... Performance of the Team ....

 

As with ANY Team, Crowds will come to watch SUCCESS

 

If we start with a few Victory's .... then Attendances will Increase

 

 

Simples

[The Cat]

Higher. Because without the stadium loan to pay off and a smaller wage bill I'm hopeful the new board will cut season ticket prices and let kids in really cheap.

[wightman35]

Regular,convincing wins in style and they will have bigger crowds!

[SaintRichmond]

Higher. Because without the stadium loan to pay off and a smaller wage bill I'm hopeful the new board will cut season ticket prices and let kids in really cheap.

 

 

 

Where does it say that the Stadium Loan has been cleared ????

[trousers]

I went for 'about the same' as I feel that there will be additional people that attend due to the regime change but this will be offset by people that won't come as often to see lower league football.

 

IMHO of course

[Mase]

I genuinely believe they will be higher than last Seasons.

 

Ticket prices may be reduced… We will certainly be winning more games! Rupert has gone, and MLT is in, things will be freshened up I believe.

 

Can’t wait to be honest!

[Scudamore]

Ticket prices will have a fair effect but i'd guess they'll drop...

[saint lard]

Higher initially, as there will no doubt be a feelgood factor and the over optimistic thought that we will muller everyone in the league, but the longevity of this will be dependant on the displays on the pitch.

 

The choice of a new manager will be imperative to the feeelgood factor and the optimism.

 

Stick with Wotte......"meh" will set in.IMO.

Edited 8 June, 2009 by saint lard

[SFC Forever]

I have voted higher because we are going to do well this season. About time we started enjoying our soccer again.

[Bailey]

Initially I expect the attendance will be above average as there will be a bit of a 'feel-good' factor going around the place should Pinnacle's bid go through without any problems. If MLT is announced as Chairman or something similar, then that could well improve attendances in the short-term too.

 

Generally speaking though, our gates will come down to results on the pitch. If we're winning regularly, then the attendances will improve. If we struggle, then it'll be the same as this season, if not lower.

[s0108787]

depends how they price tickets. If they are competitive for League one i would consider getting one for the first time.

[crouchi]

Our gates will surely be lower for league 1 football, and just continue the general drift away into other cheaper activites, unless performances become far more exciting

[MrMojoRisin]

If as hoped MLT comes back in some sort of role then I can see us getting 25-27000.

[Mase]

If as hoped MLT comes back in some sort of role then I can see us getting 25-27000.

 

Ouchy-wow-wah!

[SaintRobbie]

Higher - depends on the manager though.

[Saint Fan CaM]

I think it will have less to do with MLT and new owner, than the first few decisions made regarding (a) the managerial appointment, (b) what new signings are made to replace the inevitable leavers and © the results over the first five games of the season (especially if the -10 is overturned by the courts).

[NickG]

pricing of season tickets, offers to kids etc, who manager is and most importantly how we start the season - winning/losing run will make more difference than owners

[Fan The Flames]

I am hoping for at least 3 sell outs next season.

[paulwantsapint]

It is poss if we start well & a few others have bad starts that we could be the best supported team in the league

Not sure what sort of following away teams bring but will we be seen as a day out to a proper ground?

[Amesbury Saint]

new Board

new manager

new team

home wins

 

crowd will be higher than last year

 

new board

new manager

new team

 

start higher then falls

 

new board

new manager

 

starts about the same and then falls

 

new board

 

starts lower

[The Farmer]

I salute anybody voting for 'higher' as I think the 'stay away cos of Rupert' factor is vastly overplayed.

 

Well considering vitually all of the 10 or so mates I used to stand at the back of the Northam with 4/5 years ago, whose support wained during our Lowe point, have said they are now can't wait to their grubby mits on STs, I beg to differ Rich.

 

A lot of fans I personally spoke with refused to fund Rupert's maligned cabal, I think there was even a forum especially for us

[manji]

Well considering vitually all of the 10 or so mates I used to stand at the back of the Northam with 4/5 years ago, whose support wained during our Lowe point, have said they are now can't wait to their grubby mits on STs, I beg to differ Rich.

 

A lot of fans I personally spoke with refused to fund Rupert's maligned cabal, I think there was even a forum especially for us

That was an anti-Lowe forum ??? Schitt !

[Neil]

If the prices are right they will be higher. If they aren't right they will be lower.

 

Next question...

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

Well considering vitually all of the 10 or so mates I used to stand at the back of the Northam with 4/5 years ago, whose support wained during our Lowe point, have said they are now can't wait to their grubby mits on STs, I beg to differ Rich.

 

 

And you may well be correct, Spen. The good thing about this thread is that by the end of September, we will have an answer that will give us a good guide.

 

My experiences were different to yours - knew a lot of people who wanted Lowe out but nobody who had changed their habits.

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

Do you need a lift to the ground, or are the streets considered safe enough for you to walk?

 

LOL, lift to ground not required since the Lottery organisers have spared me the winning numbers.

 

I quite often need a lift home though around 10pm, so if you are offering. . . .

[The Incongruous Monk]

I would expect the opening games to have around 10,000 - this is League One, people don't want to watch the level of football and we'll be down to the real core of the support.

 

If results go well we may push this up to around the 15,000 mark. If the new board budgets any higher than this then they're mad.

[Shroppie]

It all depends on how well we're doing. Pushing for playoffs - 22000. Mid table - 1800. Struggling - could drop as low as 12000.

[Window Cleaner]

I would expect the opening games to have around 10,000 - this is League One, people don't want to watch the level of football and we'll be down to the real core of the support.

 

If results go well we may push this up to around the 15,000 mark. If the new board budgets any higher than this then they're mad.

 

 

 

For the first 3 or 4 games there will be euphoria, may get 20+K, then it depends what our team looks like, how they are playing,away support and how much it costs.I fully expect us to get 12K+ ST sales if the price is £320/£360.

[Channon's Windmill]

Here is one for any Saints stats guru out there!

 

I am going to get a season ticket this year for the first time and I want to know which end gets the most goals; Northam or Chapel?

 

It may sway my decision about where to sit!

[Chez]

I wonder will away crowds hold their own as there are lots of local games but obviously these are smaller clubs with less fans.

 

I expect us to lose quite a few more season ticket holders this summer as the last two years has drained the life out of many.

 

Pricing and summer transfers hold the key.

[krissyboy31]

I wonder will away crowds hold their own as there are lots of local games but obviously these are smaller clubs with less fans.

 

I expect us to lose quite a few more season ticket holders this summer as the last two years has drained the life out of many.

 

Pricing and summer transfers hold the key.

 

I think Norwich will bring more than they did last season, as long as it is a Saturday kick-off and I can't see Charlton only bringing the pathetic amount they did last season, again. Leeds will bring loads, as will Millwall and Brighton. Southend will probably bring a few on the memories of their last visit. The only others of note will be Swindon and Milton Keynes (possibly Carlisle). The rest will struggle to bring more than a couple of hundred.

[Ponty]

If we're not powering up the table, and out of the bottom 3, after the first half-dozen or so games, we'll start to be watched by lower crowds than last season.

[NSS]

I don't wish to be scornful of this poll but, as it is just an expression of opinion as to whether crowds will increase, decrease, or stay roughly the same, exactly how is it useful?

 

Of course, the prospective new owners may well be interested to hear whether or not individuals are more or less likely to attend next season, but in order for that data to be useful it would need to be more specific than this current poll is likely to establish.

 

However, a poll which asked the following would be considerably more useful but, unfortunately, I am not allowed to create new threads.

 

Which of these best describes your recent and anticipated attendance at St Mary's?

1) I was a season ticket holder last season and I DO expect to renew that season ticket for the new season.

2) I was a season ticket holder last season but I DO NOT expect to renew that season ticket for the new season. However, I am likely to attend more than 8 home games on a casual basis.

3) I was a season ticket holder last season but I DO NOT expect to renew that season ticket for the new season and I am UNLIKELY to attend more than 8 home games on a casual basis.

4) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season but I DO expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season.

5) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season and I DO NOT expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season. However, I am likely to attend more home games on a casual basis than I did last season.

6) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season and I DO NOT expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season, but I am UNLIKELY to attend more home games on a casual basis than I did last season.

 

Thanks for your help

[The9]

Totally depends on how the team do.

 

Good start and winning matches and I can see us getting some around the 23-25k mark but I doubt many more will want to see even a successful Saints side in League One.

 

A poor or mediocre start and we could be down in the 12k zone, there are only a couple of opponents at most that will spike attendances this season, Leeds, maybe Norwich and Charlton.

 

Away fans should turn up in disproportionately high numbers though - but not noticably compared to last season's away fans at St Mary's due to the division drop.

[The9]

I don't wish to be scornful of this poll but, as it is just an expression of opinion as to whether crowds will increase, decrease, or stay roughly the same, exactly how is it useful?

 

Of course, the prospective new owners may well be interested to hear whether or not individuals are more or less likely to attend next season, but in order for that data to be useful it would need to be more specific than this current poll is likely to establish.

 

However, a poll which asked the following would be considerably more useful but, unfortunately, I am not allowed to create new threads.

 

Which of these best describes your recent and anticipated attendance at St Mary's?

1) I was a season ticket holder last season and I DO expect to renew that season ticket for the new season.

2) I was a season ticket holder last season but I DO NOT expect to renew that season ticket for the new season. However, I am likely to attend more than 8 home games on a casual basis.

3) I was a season ticket holder last season but I DO NOT expect to renew that season ticket for the new season and I am UNLIKELY to attend more than 8 home games on a casual basis.

4) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season but I DO expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season.

5) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season and I DO NOT expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season. However, I am likely to attend more home games on a casual basis than I did last season.

6) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season and I DO NOT expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season, but I am UNLIKELY to attend more home games on a casual basis than I did last season.

 

Thanks for your help

 

That does look like a decent poll.

[NSS]

That does look like a decent poll.

 

Any chance of posting it then please?

[Window Cleaner]

I don't wish to be scornful of this poll but, as it is just an expression of opinion as to whether crowds will increase, decrease, or stay roughly the same, exactly how is it useful?

 

Of course, the prospective new owners may well be interested to hear whether or not individuals are more or less likely to attend next season, but in order for that data to be useful it would need to be more specific than this current poll is likely to establish.

 

However, a poll which asked the following would be considerably more useful but, unfortunately, I am not allowed to create new threads.

 

Which of these best describes your recent and anticipated attendance at St Mary's?

1) I was a season ticket holder last season and I DO expect to renew that season ticket for the new season.

2) I was a season ticket holder last season but I DO NOT expect to renew that season ticket for the new season. However, I am likely to attend more than 8 home games on a casual basis.

3) I was a season ticket holder last season but I DO NOT expect to renew that season ticket for the new season and I am UNLIKELY to attend more than 8 home games on a casual basis.

4) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season but I DO expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season.

5) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season and I DO NOT expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season. However, I am likely to attend more home games on a casual basis than I did last season.

6) I was NOT a season ticket holder last season and I DO NOT expect to purchase a season ticket for the new season, but I am UNLIKELY to attend more home games on a casual basis than I did last season.

 

Thanks for your help

 

for such market research as that I do hope the new owners would be willing to make a handsome donation to our favourite forum in return. Anyway by studying the "how much would you donate to save our club" thread , first and second version you might notice vast discrepancies in the responses once you have to virtually sign your name to your response.