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whether its right to reward his donations/loans etc with a seat on the board. Should it not be purely about teh best candidates for eachrole rather than a decsions based on sentiment?

 

I don't think his alleged appointment is based on sentiment, imo its a commercial decision based on actions post admin

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Nineteen Canteen

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to be fair we have also seen him in the press.His radio interview after we went into admin was poor and adds ammunition to our -10 penalty. So it is not all from the Echo etc.

 

Presumably the Echo didn't write his chairman notes in the programmes or his OS articles as well. Crouch always struck me IMO as a man with a plan but not much idea how to execute it.

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I bank rolled us as well to the extent of £25, does that mean I get a seat on the board? Silly me, I should have drawn up a document with strident conditions laid out on it and got the bucket holder to sign it for me before I gave him the money.

 

if that is a comparable situation in your mind you need some help.;)

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Frank's cousin

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It's a reasonable assumption, most of his other "donations" or offer of donations had strings attached did they not?

 

If that wer the case it would not necessarily worry me too much because that is business and would any of us act differently if we had just lost 2 mil in colapsed shares (interesting that Lowe and Wile's losses in that way are highlighted as business failings... ho hum ;-) ), thus atr least getting something out of the mess - I knowo I would so cant criticis CRouch for doing the same.... BUT If thats teh case, I would hope it was clear and that those who have elevated him to sainthood based on the assumption of pure altruism acknowledge that as well.

 

Its funny how 1 line in the Echo leaked from whatever source that says Crouch CONTRIBUTED TO the April wages (which is indeed a good gesture) becomes the stuff of legend without any knowledge of the full facts - almost as if some folk had an agenda ;-) Clever PR whatever.

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Are you ssuggesting then that perhaps Crouch's donations/loans came with those strings attached?

 

Perhaps, If I had lost as much as he did and was still prepared to trump up more then I too would be saying "whats in it for me" superfan or not, I think it only right and proper that he should get his money post admin back 'now' that we have new owners and have survived, if he has suggested he will forego that money for a place on the board so be it, however, if Pinnacle have suggested it then I worry about exactly how much money is behind them.

As Nineteen posted, I see no reason why that can't be answered

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if that is a comparable situation in your mind you need some help.;)

 

I dont know what Crouch is worth or what his income is - but as many have said he is very successful and that at one time he was happy to spend 2 2mil on shares and donate another 2 mil, we have to assume he is minted - means if he has gifted/loaned £100,000 or double that etc, its probably less as a percentage than the OAPs who gifted a tenner... ;-)

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wightman35

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An earlier poster on this thread commented on the success LC has had in making the Lymington Precision Engineering firm into a "World Beater." If this is the case then Leon might well be a useful commercial Director, but I share the hope of many posters that he would not be entitled to make Public Announcements.

Should we be suspicious as to why Radio Solent came to "UNDERSTAND" this prediction?

Who was "THE SOURCE?"

Perhaps an honorary role like Life Vice President might have been less controversial!

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Perhaps, If I had lost as much as he did and was still prepared to trump up more then I too would be saying "whats in it for me" superfan or not, I think it only right and proper that he should get his money post admin back 'now' that we have new owners and have survived, if he has suggested he will forego that money for a place on the board so be it, however, if Pinnacle have suggested it then I worry about exactly how much money is behind them.

As Nineteen posted, I see no reason why that can't be answered

 

Hi

 

As I put above - I have no problem with it if thats the case - I would certainly have done the same - its the fact that so many are making him out to be a god, its lost a bit of its perspective.

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Personally I don't give a monkeys who is on the new board as long as :

 

a) The club is financially stable !

b) They appoint the right manager !

c) They concentrate only on the football and not peripheral businesses !

d) They adopt a low profile (good start as we don't even know who Mr Big is yet)!

 

It can't be that hard to achieve these fairly straightforward objectives, can it ??

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Providing that there is still room on the board for experienced professionals then I see no reason why he should not be on the board.

 

Not sure he would be wise to be the front man though, MLT would be far more motivational and eloquent

 

totally agree! I do think MLT being chairman is definitely the way forward! By the way can you free some space up!

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Not so sure I believe this story but if it is true then don't forget Leon can shout and scream as much as he likes but he will not have any real say in big decisions which I guess will be made by whoever the mysterious owner is :)

 

Whether you like him or hate him he is at least a fan and last year he proved his fan credentials by going to all but 3 matches home and away. I have had my own "run in" with him but I know as far as Saints are concerned his heart is in the right place.

 

I am also, fairly convinced that MLT will be Chairman of the football club and will assume some sort of Do|F responsibilities.

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The only posts that Matt Le Tissier should hold in the renewed club is that of President or Vice President. Even Ted Bates was that foolish to step into the boardroom but all his days his input was respected by those who were in the boardroom. It's when he left the scene that it all fell apart. Were Matt to fill any other position at this time it would end in failure, something I would not like to see to someone of Matt's capacity and name.

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Can someone please clarify exactly which month's payroll Mr Crouch is alleged to have stumped up the cash for?

 

I don't see how it could of been the April payroll, as the club had the revenue to cover it, then as we have been told by Mr Fry, May's payroll was paid by the Pinnacle deposit.

 

So is Mr Crouch taking credit for something he hasn't actually done?

 

Before anyone has ago at me for doubting his holiness Mr Crouch, I know he donated a large amount to the Save Our Saints campaign, but in relation to proportion of wealth, so did I and many others.

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You don't strike me as a confrontational type of character, however, you have have now fallen out with 2 chairmen, is it them or you FF !!! (sorry, don't do emoticons)

 

a polygon boy not confrontational is a contradiction in terms

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My take on this is that it is unlikely Leon will be offered executive powers such as chairman or chief executive and he most probably wouldn't have the time for these as he has his own business to run.

 

However, as a non exec director presumably he would only have to front for a monthly board meeting and sit in the directors box at matches. Considering what he has done (or paid) to keep the club going this hardly sounds unreasonable. Indeed we may well not have a club without LC.

 

It does rather sound as though, if true, this may be contra in lieu of outstanding loans. However, that is the prospective new owners prerogative if they want to strike a deal. In any event as a dyed in the wool fan and a successful businessman Leon Crouch would add value to those monthly meetings and could advise but would not be the ultimate decision maker.

 

For me, a one owner situation removes the problems of the past and is the best scenario going forward. Much of the discussion on this thread seems to revolve around LC taking control again, but unless he is the new owner, that simply won't be the case. His role, if any, may be quite small in the overall scheme of things.

 

However, whatever happens do keep him away from microphones though....

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You don't strike me as a confrontational type of character, however, you have have now fallen out with 2 chairmen, is it them or you FF !!! (sorry, don't do emoticons)

 

My "falling out" was over something I posted on here. You see the trouble I get into trying to enlighten my fellow postees :)

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And would those monies be tax deductable??

 

Crouch probably pays nigh on a million a year in tax,so if he gives some to Saints rather than the taxman it's no skin off his nose is it?

 

Where do you get those figure from? Pure fantasy if you ask me. How many people do you think pay ' nigh on a million a year in tax? '. If someone 'donated' a sum of money to SFC then even if the 'donation' was regraded as tax deductible they would still be paying the lions share from their own funds.

 

A short while ago we were facing the very strong possibility that our club would disappear completely. Leon Crouch put his hand in his pocket and bought us some time. With a little luck that action will result in our club not only surviving but eventually reclaiming our rightful place in the Premiership.

 

His reign as Chairman might not have been a complete success but I'm sure he has learned many lessons from his tenure. No one is suggesting that he is coming back in a similar role but he could certainly make a worthwhile contribution as part of a balanced team of professional directors operating under an experienced Chairman.

 

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...

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Shouldnt Lowe be on the board as well to balance things up ? Its only fair..........

 

It's an easy reaction to throw money at a problem quite another to orchestrate a solution. Lowe working on the board would have better credentials than CRouch in advising how to run the club at a profit or with the minimum of investment IMO.

 

Do we see where this is going? Crouch on the board and Manji rightly raises the question of Lowe and before we know it...all the old wounds open up.

 

Unconditional and universal support for MLT and Pinnacle will IMO only be achieved without any of the past exec and non-exec directors. If McMenemy comes back and starts spouting his poison about the Lowe years as he has done in the past then IMO MLT and Co would have missed the unity boat bigtime.

 

No long term good will some from this decision unless Crouch's position is balanced up. Why bother though and simply can them all and start afresh. At the moment its bit like being told I have won a two week holiday in the Maldives but it will rain for the entire two weeks non stop. Takes the shine off the prize and now ambivalent about it.

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Shouldnt Lowe be on the board as well to balance things up ? Its only fair..........

 

The only thing Rupert should be on is a slab in the morgue. What a grade A asshole that fella is.

 

Saying that he would probably still haunt us from beyond the grave

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It's an easy reaction to throw money at a problem quite another to orchestrate a solution. Lowe working on the board would have better credentials than CRouch in advising how to run the club at a profit or with the minimum of investment IMO.

 

Do we see where this is going? Crouch on the board and Manji rightly raises the question of Lowe and before we know it...all the old wounds open up.

 

Unconditional and universal support for MLT and Pinnacle will IMO only be achieved without any of the past exec and non-exec directors. If McMenemy comes back and starts spouting his poison about the Lowe years as he has done in the past then IMO MLT and Co would have missed the unity boat bigtime.

 

No long term good will some from this decision unless Crouch's position is balanced up. Why bother though and simply can them all and start afresh. At the moment its bit like being told I have won a two week holiday in the Maldives but it will rain for the entire two weeks non stop. Takes the shine off the prize and now ambivalent about it.

 

TBH, it depends really if LM or CRouch come bvack and FOCUS on the future and stop the old bile (which they should considering its now history) Then it could be fine - teh problem is that becaus e of their history and baggage , they probably wont get cut the slack that total newbies woudl if or when errors are made ... we need to be able to cut the new board some slack as they find their feet and as rebuild together, and that is the danger with ex directors from any side resurfacing in new roles....

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It's an easy reaction to throw money at a problem quite another to orchestrate a solution. Lowe working on the board would have better credentials than CRouch in advising how to run the club at a profit or with the minimum of investment IMO.

 

Do we see where this is going? Crouch on the board and Manji rightly raises the question of Lowe and before we know it...all the old wounds open up.

 

Unconditional and universal support for MLT and Pinnacle will IMO only be achieved without any of the past exec and non-exec directors. If McMenemy comes back and starts spouting his poison about the Lowe years as he has done in the past then IMO MLT and Co would have missed the unity boat bigtime.

 

No long term good will some from this decision unless Crouch's position is balanced up. Why bother though and simply can them all and start afresh. At the moment its bit like being told I have won a two week holiday in the Maldives but it will rain for the entire two weeks non stop. Takes the shine off the prize and now ambivalent about it.

 

not going to ruin another thread by answering

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Iknow its meant in jest ...but a bit extreme none the less and possibly in bad taste?

 

Agreed. I wish Rupert no ill will, but I hope that he keeps a five mile exclusion zone from SMS, along with MW. Silence from LM would be welcome too....all IMHO, of course>;)

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Remembering that Leon's involvement in Saints new dawn came AFTER administration, I think he has served the club and its supporters tremendously well and shown how much he really cares. As someone else said, how many other ex-Directors were going to put their own money into a potential lost cause? So yes, Leon fully deserves his place on the Board if indeed the rumour is true and I am confident that his involvement will only be positive alongside MLT's and Lynam's.

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99% percent of normal fans will probably not be bothered about this at all.

 

A few axe grinders on here are.

 

What interests me the most about this, if true (50/50?), is WHY Crouch has been asked on to the board?

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Some of the hatred and bile from some posters is very similar to one Rupert the Bear...Same old Ruperts boyzz with such vile tongues.....

New owners will appoint the best for their board and it will never be incompetents like Wilde and Lowe. If Crouch gets appointed it will be because a very sucessful businessman/Lady sees his value....Now you Lowe dancing bears...can you tell me Rupes was ever sucessful in business or football. Such hatred boyzz.

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