dubai_phil Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Phil Your posts were always some of those I would read when scanning threads, but since the Pinnacle announcement I just don't get where you are coming from. You seem to have an axe to grind or are having too much fun before posting! No offence. Alan Alan I'm waiting for the deal to be completed and to renewing my on-line commentary access. I'm extremely relieved that it is all over, and have stated that, and I remain convinced that Lynam will have this all completed by Fruday week within his timelines. My post earlier is simply that like others I am confused as to where this stupid story comes from. Obviously everybody has traced it's source to MJ, so there was simply no need to try and speculate. I did put the word IF in my post! I bow to the collective masses. As it is decided this was obviously MJ then as a fan I should no longer need to be worried about where or who seems to have an axe to grind. Just simply ask one question. If it ISN'T MJ then who the hell was it? Wasn't a defence of him. I think it is a pretty damned important question and, to be perfectly honest I would think that Tony would like to know as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Not sure what they are possibly hoping to achieve mind. There sure are some warped minds out there. Total waste of energy. Ah, you've met Marc Coco the Clown Jackson then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Alan I'm waiting for the deal to be completed and to renewing my on-line commentary access. I'm extremely relieved that it is all over, and have stated that, and I remain convinced that Lynam will have this all completed by Fruday week within his timelines. My post earlier is simply that like others I am confused as to where this stupid story comes from. Obviously everybody has traced it's source to MJ, so there was simply no need to try and speculate. I did put the word IF in my post! I bow to the collective masses. As it is decided this was obviously MJ then as a fan I should no longer need to be worried about where or who seems to have an axe to grind. Just simply ask one question. If it ISN'T MJ then who the hell was it? Wasn't a defence of him. I think it is a pretty damned important question and, to be perfectly honest I would think that Tony would like to know as well! Can you not give it a rest? Of course it was MJ, I know it, you know it, everybody else knows it! Will we ever prove it? I doubt it, maybe it will remain as mysterious as MJ's backers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Can you not give it a rest? Of course it was MJ, I know it, you know it, everybody else knows it! Will we ever prove it? I doubt it, maybe it will remain as mysterious as MJ's backers If it really was MJ, then someone wrote it for him. It's certainly not his 'style', if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 If it really was MJ, then someone wrote it for him. It's certainly not his 'style', if you know what I mean. I imagine the person posting it on that website edited out the spelling and grammar errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 I might enquire via his facebook,see if he can shed any light... wont get a truthful response however, i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Can you not give it a rest? Of course it was MJ, I know it, you know it, everybody else knows it! Will we ever prove it? I doubt it, maybe it will remain as mysterious as MJ's backers It is rested. You obviously hacked his phone/computer so I bow to your superior technical knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Total BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 There is a rush to rubbish this on here, but take a few seconds more. Personally I believe it is untrue, however as I mentioned before this rumour appears to have originated in the City, NOT locally. I know nobody cares or believes it but this has not come from MJ. If you don't believe that then you may as well stop reading this now. The PROBLEM is however that it has come from SOMEWHERE. And, IF you take it that it is NOT MJ, then WHO ON EARTH would have something to gain by putting this story out there? If (as I think is the case) everything is fine, then it will not have any effect on Tony & his team and it won't have any effect on Fry & his team. So where is it aimed at? unsettling the fans? unsettling the money man? Why the hell does something always seem to pop up? - "Dark Forces" again And to what purpose? The only options I can see to start this story would be The Pantomime Villain which I know is not the case Somebody with a grudge from the past (MW or RL or maybe even JP) trying to cause trouble The other mystery foreign bidder or the deposed Irish Salz's last minute salvation The guys who dropped out of Pinnacle Group Fry himself trying to put pressure onto Pinnacle to get a move on or the guy who dropped out of the MJ group when asked to pay the deposit. Probably could even be that White Witch we supposedly p*ssed off when she exorcised SMS Forgetting the fact that it is well out of order, this is ODD and it makes me seriously wonder why? Interesting ........ I thought I was the only one to have such thoughts about The Devil's Alliance ........... THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN TOO QUIET !!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Thanks Neil (NSS). Your post and the follow up from Tony Lynam should settle a few nerves. For those who may mistrust newer posters, Neil is a good friend of mine and is the fund raising face behind Smile4Rich. Here is a link showing they have a Dinner Gala tonight and Pinnacle sponsor S4R. In the photo are 3 who post on here (not me by the way) but I will not embarrass them by names. http://www.smile4rich.co.uk/fundraising/event-calendar When you visit the link why not read what they are about and make a donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Alan I'm waiting for the deal to be completed and to renewing my on-line commentary access. I'm extremely relieved that it is all over, and have stated that, and I remain convinced that Lynam will have this all completed by Fruday week within his timelines. My post earlier is simply that like others I am confused as to where this stupid story comes from. Obviously everybody has traced it's source to MJ, so there was simply no need to try and speculate. I did put the word IF in my post! I bow to the collective masses. As it is decided this was obviously MJ then as a fan I should no longer need to be worried about where or who seems to have an axe to grind. Just simply ask one question. If it ISN'T MJ then who the hell was it? Wasn't a defence of him. I think it is a pretty damned important question and, to be perfectly honest I would think that Tony would like to know as well! wasn't it you who said this came from not Southampton but the city? Almost as if trying to add credibility to the story - although the author claimed it came from the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worm Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 knowing our luck it will be one of the few takeover rumors that are actually true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 This thread needs to be closed now, total BS. read anything offical there is no need to panic. there is clearly 1 or 2 with agendas. people need to stop being so negative ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 There doesn't seem very much to worry about at this time - TL's post carries far more weight than the entirely unsubstantiated rumour that started this thread . I'll still be a lot happier when this deal is finally sorted though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Just a quick scan to see if anything happened (yesterday - Friday ) and it doesn't look like it, but with todays develpoemnet I can confirm It was defo The Butler with The Candlestick in The Dining Room HTH Meanwhile back to The margeritas in the garden with the Mrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Really looking forward to the day we can start worrying about squad again!!! always happy days!! MLT back in his boots lol!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 wasn't it you who said this came from not Southampton but the city? Almost as if trying to add credibility to the story - although the author claimed it came from the club Nick, leave it. You want to ask a straight question you know how to do that with the PM system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 not sure why it needs to go to pm? you raised the point on this thread as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 This thread needs to be closed now, total BS. read anything offical there is no need to panic. there is clearly 1 or 2 with agendas. people need to stop being so negative ffs. Agreed. I hope Jackson never shows his face at SFC again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-skacel Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 maybe just a skate on a windup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 It upsets me when this type of information starts circling and the gullible masses start to accept such stories as being true. The only thing in my own opinion that could upset this deal is the throwback on the money markets provoked by the chaotic scenario being played out in Downing Street. Tomorrow sees the European Elections and the overall results could throw the value of the pound even further downwards. Let's hope not but as I've already posted, it's not over till it's signed, sealed and delivered. Don't get carried away just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 It upsets me when this type of information starts circling and the gullible masses start to accept such stories as being true. The only thing in my own opinion that could upset this deal is the throwback on the money markets provoked by the chaotic scenario being played out in Downing Street. Tomorrow sees the European Elections and the overall results could throw the value of the pound even further downwards. Let's hope not but as I've already posted, it's not over till it's signed, sealed and delivered. Don't get carried away just yet. Very wise words. Stay calm and carry on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Tomorrow sees the European Elections and the overall results could throw the value of the pound even further downwards. Ha Ha Ha, i've heard it all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 what the hell - gutted its going to fall thru. what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_carlin Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Having read Marc Jacksons posts on here and the bournemouth site. This sort of made up rumour is right up his street. Lets just hope Jackson and Greens mate Dave Jones is shown the door at SFC as a matter of priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 This story is factually incorrect and all fans should totally disregard it. Will leave you to guess the motivation behind the rumour originator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 This story is factually incorrect and all fans should totally disregard it. Will leave you to guess the motivation behind the rumour originator The view on here is that it's either a Skate or a photo copier salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 It upsets me when this type of information starts circling and the gullible masses start to accept such stories as being true. T But it does appear to be based on fact i.e. that Pinnacle did not stump up the full £500K as requested. It was also not denied by Tony Lynam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Like I said the other night, as this rumour was mentioned before. It is all ******** and Im gald to see Tony has come out to quash it quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 I think we are all getting a bit twitchy until the deal is done. It's like being 1-0 up with 5 minutes go and as Saints fans we all know what that's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Like I said the other night, as this rumour was mentioned before. It is all ******** and Im gald to see Tony has come out to quash it quickly. has he? where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleoldladysaint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 See Post 60 on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 has he? where? Neil I've been urged to log in to this by a friend to read about our apparent collapse, which I clearly found odd since I would naturally be the first to know! But yes everyone, sorry to disappoint you all and ruin this rumour, I am a very relaxed man. Matters of a legal nature are in the hands of legal people and everything is progressing as it should be. Catch up with you later Neil, we're both really looking forward to tonights bash. Cheers Tony Here is the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Like I said the other night, as this rumour was mentioned before. It is all ******** and Im gald to see Tony has come out to quash it quickly. Great that he did, but I hope we are not all expecting him to come on and quash every rumour, otherwise they'll never complete on time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evo Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Having witnessed this sort of discrediting and/or disinformation thing first hand (albeit on a much less important matter and scale) I can attest that some people are just jerks. Sadly not everyone's behaviour can be understood in rational terms, nor do they apparently need to have a motive! If only we were all Vulcans lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 See Post 60 on this thread. Are we really excepting that post as genuine? I could set up a user name as "Tony" and post any old gumble. I'm going to reserve judgement until I see more legitimate denials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 But it does appear to be based on fact i.e. that Pinnacle did not stump up the full £500K as requested. It was also not denied by Tony Lynam. Pinnacle have never claimed that they paid £500,000 up front. Nor has Fry. Only some sloppy reporting by the Daily Echo gave the impression that they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Are we really excepting that post as genuine? I could set up a user name as "Tony" and post any old gumble. I'm going to reserve judgement until I see more legitimate denials! I can vouch for Tony's statement if anyone holds my posts with any credibility!! I have previously stated things on here in good faith that have been shown to have some factual basis!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Are we really excepting that post as genuine? I could set up a user name as "Tony" and post any old gumble. I'm going to reserve judgement until I see more legitimate denials! Yea but are you the original Original Bournemouth Saint? (See Weston Saint's post - that should settle your nerves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Pinnacle have never claimed that they paid £500,000 up front. Nor has Fry. Only some sloppy reporting by the Daily Echo gave the impression that they did. £500K was Fry's stated precondition for any party to enter the exclusive phase of the negotiations. If, as reported, Pinnacle was unwilling to meet this demand and Leon Crouch's cash and Dyer's rushed through transfer fee has been used to part pay the wages then I think we are entitiled to ask why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 £500K was Fry's stated precondition for any party to enter the exclusive phase of the negotiations. If, as reported, Pinnacle was unwilling to meet this demand and Leon Crouch's cash and Dyer's rushed through transfer fee has been used to part pay the wages then I think we are entitiled to ask why. If they DID get others to pay the cash, it may just be that they are not daft enough to risk their own money. Or then again maybe they are not so wealthy. Or they didn't have the readies, but are wealthy(ish). or etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 it's pretty amusing that this thread already has three pages. how gullible are some of you? a nobody has taken thirty seconds to post some tosh, shouldn't we be used to this by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 I can vouch for Tony's statement if anyone holds my posts with any credibility!! I have previously stated things on here in good faith that have been shown to have some factual basis!! Not sure I can trust a vegetarian!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 I think boollerx, e.g.: " If they’re so rich and so keen, then why didn’t they just pay the full exclusivity fee? " Because people who are "so rich" got "so rich" by NOT "paying the full fee". There have been many people making similar sorts of comments ("....very rich....can afford to pay mega bucks....." etc etc). Rich people are, by and large, rich because they are better with money than the average poster on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Why not wait and see what happens in the next two weeks? All this stirring and rumour mongering sounds like sour grapes from someone who seems to want the Pinnicle bid to fail. Lets all just chill out,have a beer or two and let things take their course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Why not wait and see what happens in the next two weeks? All this stirring and rumour mongering sounds like sour grapes from someone who seems to want the Pinnicle bid to fail. Lets all just chill out,have a beer or two and let things take their course. rocknrollman - you always have the best ideas! :drinkers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 rocknrollman - you always have the best ideas! :drinkers: Thanks OBS. Its exactly what im going to do now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Has anyone thought that the deal that is on the point of collapse could be the arrangement between Pinnacle and their multi-millionaire client? The legal arrangements with the Administrator will be negotiated by lawyers instructed by the principle, not Pinnacle and asset/share purchases are not that complicated. Maybe, just maybe, Pinnacle's contract with the client was done over a beer in the Lock, Stock and Barrel and getting it on paper, is proving a bit more difficult, now that Daddy Warbucks may be thinking he doesn't need his ginger-haired orphan anymore, particularly when the exclusivity period expires. In other words, remember the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Has anyone thought that the deal that is on the point of collapse could be the arrangement between Pinnacle and their multi-millionaire client? The legal arrangements with the Administrator will be negotiated by lawyers instructed by the principle, not Pinnacle and asset/share purchases are not that complicated. Maybe, just maybe, Pinnacle's contract with the client was done over a beer in the Lock, Stock and Barrel and getting it on paper, is proving a bit more difficult, now that Daddy Warbucks may be thinking he doesn't need his ginger-haired orphan anymore, particularly when the exclusivity period expires. In other words, remember the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules... There was a bit of trouble down the LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL last week if that helps GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 The problem is that until the "deal is done" we are all (me included) twitchy and susceptible to any nonsense posted on here. I believe the things posted by NSS (and considering that he is a skate, that is something!), Tony Lynham and the Farmer (and one or two others). I am am going back to my bottle of "Pheasant Gulley" (an excellent Cabernet Merlot from M & S ) and wait for things to pan out. Sober me up when it all happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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