chrisobee Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Correct on all counts. But apparently Broad losing his head and not thinking about the bigger picture is him "showing that he's a winner", according to Atherton... Are you sure it was not a piece of ultra fast editing on the part of Sky ? Can't believe Athers called him a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 6 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2009 Are you sure it was not a piece of ultra fast editing on the part of Sky ? Can't believe Athers called him a winner. Again, he was right to shy at the stumps, there should have been someone there backing up, run out = win, hold the ball = super over lottery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 June, 2009 Share Posted 6 June, 2009 "What could possibly go wrong?" Steve Grant, you asked it... England duly delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Now lets see if Holland can take first place in the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 115-3 after 15 overs, not too shabby for a bunch of amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 151 the target for the Netherlands if they want to go to the super8's, to win the match they need 176. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Not looking good at the moment, 47/3 off 8.4 overs... really need to put their foot on the pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Now 49/4 off 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Bye bye Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Erk! It looked promising for just a few moments (i.e. the interval) but they're being battered now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 151 the target for the Netherlands if they want to go to the super8's, to win the match they need 176. Fingers crossed! oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 9 June, 2009 Share Posted 9 June, 2009 Ah well, at least we're already qualified for the WC football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Share Posted 10 June, 2009 How bad are our 'dancing girls' btw? One of them the other day even had a full beard :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 i blame pietersen for last night personally. oh, him and rashid harsh? yep, but life is. pietersen once again showing he struggles to stop getting over excited, 10 from 4 balls in the over and tried it again and dollied it up. if he'd stayed in, reckon we'd have got 20 more and won. rashid's over, depsite getting a wicket, was expensive, plus he made 2 poor fielding errors which cost us runs. all hypothetical i know, but hey, the whole world's a critic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLYMPIC Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 When Pietersen got out last night why is it that England players continue to play the sweep shot so badly.Time and time again we get out playing that shot it's one thing that any England batsman should be banned from using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Why bother picking specialists like Morgan and Napier and then not playing them , and persevering with Shah, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 Why bother picking specialists like Morgan and Napier and then not playing them , and persevering with Shah, Not sure why Key was picked either. However, I would definitely not have opened with Luke Wright as I don't think he is good enough for International cricket. Might just as well opened with Pieterson and had Napier in the team possibly to come in at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 The thing with D/L it gave West Indies i big advantage by having 10 wickets to get the runs off 8 overs, i think for 20/20 cricket you should loose wickets in the calculation too otherwise its an unfair advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 One thing it underlined for me was that we should play in all forms of International cricket a wicket keeper who is a wicket keeper first not a bloody batsman wickie. Foster in 2 games got rid of top batsmen through his skill. A wickie making a mistake and not stumping or catching a top player can be more costly than the runs he is likely to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 More ****ing retarded team selection from England. Wright has scored runs v Holand, that's it, should have been dropped for Napier. The 'correct' decision would also have been to leave Collingwood out as he adds **** all to this form of the game. He doesn't bowl and your No 5/6 needs to be able to hit boundaries. Was Dimi injured or was it just a retarded decision to leave him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 (edited) More ****ing retarded team selection from England. Wright has scored runs v Holand, that's it, should have been dropped for Napier. The 'correct' decision would also have been to leave Collingwood out as he adds **** all to this form of the game. He doesn't bowl and your No 5/6 needs to be able to hit boundaries. Was Dimi injured or was it just a retarded decision to leave him out? Glad I am not the only one infuriated by the continued ****y selections behind the England team? Give two hundred england supporters a piece of paper and get them to write down their squad for T20 and you can bet they would all look quite similar. Give it to the ECB and you can guarantee they would pick a plethora of players who have failed for England before in all versions of the games, or others clearly out of their depth. Why oh why, in a fast scoring version of this sport do we persist in leaving out big hitters and specialists and persist with people you know who are just going to nudge it around and get out for 5 or 6? Bloody hell, it was frustrating enough watching some of the ODI and Test cricket watching our players trying to 'settle in'.... ****ing hell, just hit the ****ing thing or relinquish your place to someone who can. Can I ask all of you here... is Fosters selection justified? Do we have room to sacrifice better batsmen/keepers for just a 'specialist' keeper? Unarguably a great keeper... but test class?????? no. Why Key, why Shah, why Foster.... why Collingwood!?!?!? You just kinda knew as soon as he was appointed we'd taken another step back. Still, roll on The Ashes... should be quite interesting to see two teams trying to lose to eachother.... However, I kinda think Australia will be totally re-focused by then.. Edited 16 June, 2009 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 June, 2009 Share Posted 16 June, 2009 i think specialist WK is ideal, and foster may well be better when he doesnt feel pressured to clear the rope..... Collingwood was pathetic. Reverse Sweeps should carry an immediate fine for all who try and fail miserably. As we did on a lot of occasions. Infuriating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 Can I ask all of you here... is Fosters selection justified? Do we have room to sacrifice better batsmen/keepers for just a 'specialist' keeper? Unarguably a great keeper... but test class?????? no. . So in games in recent times where we have had batsmen keepers and they have missed/dropped top players for them to go on and score big time. Is better than a wickie who is good at his job , that could save not only runs but also get important wickets? The 2 stumpings he took against India and WI were superb and shoulkd have been match winning events. In the ashes if we have a wickie who misses Ponting and co will be more exoensive than going out and perhaps hitting 20-30 runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 So in games in recent times where we have had batsmen keepers and they have missed/dropped top players for them to go on and score big time. Is better than a wickie who is good at his job , that could save not only runs but also get important wickets? The 2 stumpings he took against India and WI were superb and shoulkd have been match winning events. In the ashes if we have a wickie who misses Ponting and co will be more exoensive than going out and perhaps hitting 20-30 runs. Correct. IMHO Prior is nowhere near good enough a gloveman. His batting is OK but I really think he could cost us, especially if we play spinners. Nick, are you also managing local cricket teams and with the same success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 Cannot understand Collingwood being in the 1 day games let alone the 20/20 and captain? You need sluggers not gentle little nicks. Flowers seems to be making all the same basic team selection mistakes as all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 IMO Foster has been the best keeper in County Cricket for a couple of years, and should be in the England side for every form of the game. Collingwood has shown he can clear the boundary in the past, but for some reason couldnt manage it this series. I'd probably have him in and around the team, but hand the T20 captaincy to KP. It would be intersting to have Colly or Shah opening the batting alongside Bopara. With 6 overs of fielding restrictions, it would give the so called 'nurdlers' a chance to give it more of a heave occasionally, and give us a hitter (Wright) further down the order. Key should be nowhere near international cricket. End of. I'm very disappointed that Napier didnt get a game. We were promised a team full of T20 specialists, and he is exactly that. As for the bowling, does it bother anyone else that we dont utilise our all-rounders? Wright and Bopara for example bowl regularly in County cricket. If they could even just bowl 2 overs each, that would allow us to play an extra batsman in place of Rashid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 Correct. IMHO Prior is nowhere near good enough a gloveman. His batting is OK but I really think he could cost us, especially if we play spinners. Nick, are you also managing local cricket teams and with the same success? Playing for them, and with the same success Lol. If you had not been so mean and purchased a programme on the Forum match you would have read about my cricket feats of captaincy, I dont know, I spent all of 5 minutes drawing my interview up and then what!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 IMO Foster has been the best keeper in County Cricket for a couple of years, and should be in the England side for every form of the game. Collingwood has shown he can clear the boundary in the past, but for some reason couldnt manage it this series. I'd probably have him in and around the team, but hand the T20 captaincy to KP. It would be intersting to have Colly or Shah opening the batting alongside Bopara. With 6 overs of fielding restrictions, it would give the so called 'nurdlers' a chance to give it more of a heave occasionally, and give us a hitter (Wright) further down the order. Key should be nowhere near international cricket. End of. I'm very disappointed that Napier didnt get a game. We were promised a team full of T20 specialists, and he is exactly that. As for the bowling, does it bother anyone else that we dont utilise our all-rounders? Wright and Bopara for example bowl regularly in County cricket. If they could even just bowl 2 overs each, that would allow us to play an extra batsman in place of Rashid.We have the MCC who are full of duffers and probably sniff at 20-20. They'd rather have 3-4 day games with empty grounds where the 'proper shots' were played.None of the excitement stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 Playing for them, and with the same success Lol. If you had not been so mean and purchased a programme on the Forum match you would have read about my cricket feats of captaincy, I dont know, I spent all of 5 minutes drawing my interview up and then what!! Wrong. I still have my prog, but must have fallen asleep on reading your "life history." Fear not, I will have another go when insomnia sets in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 We have the MCC who are full of duffers and probably sniff at 20-20. They'd rather have 3-4 day games with empty grounds where the 'proper shots' were played.None of the excitement stuff Very surprised to read the above, Nick, as I am sure you, as a cricket fan, realise that the MCC have nothing to do with England selection. In fact one of the best photos seen recently was the one of Alesha Dixon, at the opening ceremony, pictured with 2 "duffers" with Union Jack face paint. Also Lords with floodlights? Not exactly staid. [-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 Very surprised to read the above, Nick, as I am sure you, as a cricket fan, realise that the MCC have nothing to do with England selection. In fact one of the best photos seen recently was the one of Alesha Dixon, at the opening ceremony, pictured with 2 "duffers" with Union Jack face paint. Also Lords with floodlights? Not exactly staid. [-XWhen i typed that it seemed wrong, but that is often the way Lol. Alesha Dixon, i must go and have a cold shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 Wrong. I still have my prog, but must have fallen asleep on reading your "life history." Fear not, I will have another go when insomnia sets in. Dubai Phils i will accept you falling asleep, in fact the next one comes with a free razor blade to use when you try and get through it. Mine was reviewed on the Readers Digest , 'read of the month section'. I quote ' a brilliant bit of written mastery' The Times 'Only 1 tit' The Sun, 'interesting read while having a dump' The Guardian 'Uninteresting read while having a dump' The Independant 'Best piece of literature since Lord of the Rings' Totton Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 June, 2009 Share Posted 17 June, 2009 " Best read when having a dump in a public toilet." Andrex Staff Monthly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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