Echo: Dyer deal completed.

[Pancake]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4414561.Dyer_deal_goes_through/

[trousers]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4414561.Dyer_deal_goes_through/

 

So, who signed that one off I wonder?

 

Lynam?

Lynam's mystery backer?

Le Tissier?

Fry?

Tointon?

Jones?

Wotte?

[trousers]

Extract from the article says the deal was agreed before Pinnacle could do anything about it but announcement was delayed by paper work. Surely Pinnacle could have blocked deal if they really wanted to and dotted lines hadn't been signed?

 

Good to see that Pinnacle will veto any future player approaches though.

[Pancake]

I'd go out on a limb and say it was sanctioned by the current SFC board after discussions with Wotte, Begbies Traynor, Smithfield and Lynam.

[trousers]

I'd go out on a limb and say it was sanctioned by the current SFC board after discussions with Wotte, Begbies Traynor, Smithfield and Lynam.

 

Echo article says Pinnacle not in the loop on this one

[Pancake]

Now confirmed on OS:

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1682495,00.html

[DT]

So, who signed that one off I wonder?

 

Lynam?

Lynam's mystery backer?

Le Tissier?

Fry?

Tointon?

Jones?

Wotte?

Hampshire constabulary?

[Leicestersaint]

£400,000 does not seem enough to me. I think we have been mugged.

[Guided Missile]

£400,000 does not seem enough to me. I think we have been mugged.

As I posted at the time, Madonna would have paid at least a million...

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Maybe allowed Fry/Begbies to reduce the amount requested for the non refundable deposit, sold short imo and in more ways than one

[Doctoroncall]

I'm sure Dyer was more interested in a move than willing to stay with us in League One.

[trousers]

£400,000 does not seem enough to me. I think we have been mugged.

 

Isn't their an age threashold set by FIFA and/or the FA whereby clubs get compensation for selling players below a certain age? Age 23 rings a bell?

 

Would we get any additional cash for Dyer under this scheme, or is any agreed sum rolled up into the transfer fee?

[redkeith]

When you are in admin, you get screwed. There is not a lot of charity in the football world.

 

I can remember Burnley buying Adie Randall from Aldershot for £35,000 when they wen't to the wall. A year earlier, Randall turned down a £250,000 move to Shef Weds.

 

We did the same to Oldham with Fitz-Hall for £125,000 so I suppose what goes around comes around.

[Saint 76er]

Now confirmed on OS:

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1682495,00.html

 

Is it just me or does that article on the new OS read like it was written by some external agency?

 

It mentions 'Southampton' and 'Hampshire' like a national media outlet might do to explain to the uninitiated, whereas the OS is effectively for Saints fans and we know who we are!

 

I wonder if anyone is still left working on OS matters at the club nowadays?

 

:confused:

[Flyer]

Isn't their an age threashold set by FIFA and/or the FA whereby clubs get compensation for selling players below a certain age? Age 23 rings a bell?

 

Would we get any additional cash for Dyer under this scheme, or is any agreed sum rolled up into the transfer fee?

 

No, thats only when the young players contract is expiring and he leaves on a free, a fee is then decided by a tribunal. I believe Dyer had a contract next season so its a usual sale.

[Saints foreva]

Not bothered tbh.

 

I think McGlaggon is a very simular player and will do a decent job in League One.

[Pancake]

Not bothered tbh.

 

I think McGlaggon is a very simular player and will do a decent job in League One.

 

With a who and a what now??

[Weston Super Saint]

Not sure it really matters who signed what and when.

 

Good luck Dyer, and steer clear of the trouble you seem to find yourself in / associated with.

[Badger]

Probably be out on a limb again after Martinez disappears to Celtic.

[a1ex2001]

I think it's best for both parties he moved on, he's got potential but he's stagnated here and not really shown anything in a saints shirt for a long while. Disapointed we didn't get more but it keeps the wolves from the door until we can start selling season tickets.

[offix]

Bye bye. Good riddance. No place for thieves in our new setup.

[Scudamore]

Can't say i'll lose too much sleep over this one...

 

Failed to live up to any promise whilst at Saints and is plainly an utter ****...

 

May well go on to be alright but can't see him ever being that great...

[The Kraken]

From what I've heard previously though, we won't yet see any of that money (yet) as the FA/League will hold it to pay off any footballing creditors we have if the deal fails to go through.

[david in sweden]

£400,000 does not seem enough to me. I think we have been mugged.

 

I'm sure we have..........I hope there were some sell on clauses,he's sure to be transferred to a Prem. club sometime - for a darn sight more than £400K!

[trousers]

From what I've heard previously though, we won't yet see any of that money (yet) as the FA/League will hold it to pay off any footballing creditors we have if the deal fails to go through.

 

Won't 75% of it go directly to Notts County anyway?

[Baird of the land]

Have to say i'm still disappointed he's gone. Obviously not surprised.

He was the other youngster alongside walcott who seemed to have the real potential to murder defences. Never got a regular run for a couple of seasons(maybe due to his size) and for some reason(i guess his attitude combined with his thievery) he was shipped off part way through this season when i felt when your trying to build a squad round the academy players he should have been a regular. When i saw him against QPR earlier in the season he was jackyl and hyde, but the moments when he was good he was sensationally good.

[SimonRichards]

£400,000 does not seem enough to me. I think we have been mugged.

 

It doesn't seem a lot. I hope he has a sell on clause written in to the deal.

[The9]

With a who and a what now??

 

It's very similar to a McLaggon, except with less accuracy.

 

FWIW I'm not remotely bothered that Dyer's gone, he had plenty of chances to prove he wasn't a lightweight flash in the pan, form player who couldn't or wouldn't defend. He stood on the ball or ran into his opponent more times than not, and once he got to the first team he always seemed out of his depth.

 

Shame really, I thought he was better than Walcott the first time I saw them in the same team. I think both McLaggon and Thomson have the capability to have more auspicious careers than Dyer, though well done to him for putting in enough effort to get himself wanted by someone in the CCC. I suspect he'll be out of the starting line up there soon enough though now he's got a contract.

 

Dare I say well done Wupert for offering him any kind of deal last season when his contract expired ? Thought not, seeing as no-one wanted him on a free - one deal that worked out well for us, for a change.

Edited 2 June, 2009 by The9

[The Godfather]

It doesn't seem a lot. I hope he has a sell on clause written in to the deal.

 

As said last week when the fee was agreed, a large sell on fee and add ons aswell as the 400000 fee.

[Whitey Grandad]

Won't 75% of it go directly to Notts County anyway?

Isn't that McGoldrick? I thought Dyer was one of our own.

[Whitey Grandad]

Won't 75% of it go directly to Notts County anyway?

Ah! I think I've just twigged what you are saying....

[eelpie]

The old regime(s) certainly ****ed up making money out of this Academy scholar.

[The9]

The old regime(s) certainly ****ed up making money out of this Academy scholar.

 

Funny you should say that, given that he would have gone for nothing (except compensation) last season if anyone had wanted him when his contract expired, and we probably gave him a really low money new deal due to the lack of interest.

 

So he probably didn't cost us much last season and we got £400k that was otherwise not going to exist if we'd just released him, or an amount subject to the always dubious compensation tribunal if someone else had bettered our contract offer.

 

Pretty good bit of business, I'd say.

[Whitey Grandad]

Funny you should say that, given that he would have gone for nothing (except compensation) last season if anyone had wanted him when his contract expired, and we probably gave him a really low money new deal due to the lack of interest.

 

So he probably didn't cost us much last season and we got £400k that was otherwise not going to exist if we'd just released him, or an amount subject to the always dubious compensation tribunal if someone else had bettered our contract offer.

 

Pretty good bit of business, I'd say.

I'm pretty sure that we would have got more than £400k as compensation.

[Gordon Mockles]

Probably be out on a limb again after Martinez disappears to Celtic.

 

Quite possibly. The Swansea Chairman tried to cancel it with the Celtic interest but the contracts had been signed. What a dumbass!!

[trousers]

Ah! I think I've just twigged what you are saying....

 

It's OK....it's takes most people 2 goes to get most of the inane drivel I post on here....

[Saint Fen]

So, who signed that one off I wonder?

 

Lynam?

Lynam's mystery backer?

Le Tissier?

Fry?

Tointon?

Jones?

Wotte?

 

The Administrator would have sold him, they said the fee was agreed before the exclusivity deal was signed on the website. I think once a fee is agreed the selling club cannot pull the plug.

 

From now on Pinnacle will have any say on deals agreed unless there were any other bis accepted which I doubt it.

 

£400k is not a lot especially as only £200k is up front, there have to be add on's surely.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

My cynical mind wonders whether Pinnacle's client (& our future benefactor) sees this as £400k of the £500k downpayment recouped!

[sidthesquid]

Glad he's gone. Never in Walcott's class - I just hope we don't spend the money from the sell-on clause yet - next transfer will be to League One at best

[Chez]

It's very similar to a McLaggon, except with less accuracy.

 

FWIW I'm not remotely bothered that Dyer's gone, he had plenty of chances to prove he wasn't a lightweight flash in the pan, form player who couldn't or wouldn't defend. He stood on the ball or ran into his opponent more times than not, and once he got to the first team he always seemed out of his depth.

 

Shame really, I thought he was better than Walcott the first time I saw them in the same team. I think both McLaggon and Thomson have the capability to have more auspicious careers than Dyer, though well done to him for putting in enough effort to get himself wanted by someone in the CCC. I suspect he'll be out of the starting line up there soon enough though now he's got a contract.

 

Dare I say well done Wupert for offering him any kind of deal last season when his contract expired ? Thought not, seeing as no-one wanted him on a free - one deal that worked out well for us, for a change.

 

Very good post and exactly how I feel except for not having confidence in Thomson yet.

[trousers]

The Administrator would have sold him

 

Wasn't Dyer an employee of the solvent Southampton Football Club susidiary though?

 

As such, wouldn't the Football Club board (Tointon/Jones) have sold him rather than Fry, who after all, is just the administrator of Southampton Leisure Holdings plc ....?

[NickG]

was bizarre that he was out of contract last year, we clearly didn't want him, got him to sign a contract, loan him out so we don't pay him, get a loan fee then sell him for £400,000!

[ooohTerryHurlock]

When you are in admin, you get screwed. There is not a lot of charity in the football world.

 

I can remember Burnley buying Adie Randall from Aldershot for £35,000 when they wen't to the wall. A year earlier, Randall turned down a £250,000 move to Shef Weds.

 

We did the same to Oldham with Fitz-Hall for £125,000 so I suppose what goes around comes around.

 

Such is football!

[Saint Fen]

Wasn't Dyer an employee of the solvent Southampton Football Club susidiary though?

 

As such, wouldn't the Football Club board (Tointon/Jones) have sold him rather than Fry, who after all, is just the administrator of Southampton Leisure Holdings plc ....?

 

Solvent? Thats why they couldn't pay the wages?