phew that was close!

[Mr Nice]

Says the bloke whose role model appears to be Howard Marks the drug smuggler. Not Nice

 

troll

[Nineteen Canteen]

Agree with that !

 

He fronted up at a time when we needed people to front up - Which is more than Davies, Frost, Trant and numerous others seem to have done...

 

Which is the whole undisputed point. One thing chucking in some comparative loose change as a donation to earn some brownie points to get your name on a public list for those who gave over £1,000 another thing entirely commiting real effort to delivering some disparate investors to provide a rescue bid for the club. Doesn't say much for some of our other legends and uber fans held in such high regard by many and at least Jackson showed some determination and guile to do something positive for the future. Just my opinion but if Jackson is the focus of ridicule and anger then perhaps a few should be holding up a mirror.

[Nineteen Canteen]

troll

 

Fancy a game of Go, drug smuggler?

[saintgert76]

back up plan ? umm i dont think it was not by a million miles.

 

And you know that do you? Maybe you should get a job as an administrator. Mark fry must have seen something in the bid- otherwise they would have fallen at the first hurdle. He wouldnt have got this far on bull**** alone

[Nineteen Canteen]

What else has MJ shown? endeavour, willingness to do something... that will not get you far in business.

 

But without it you want even get started. Some were in a stronger position IMO to do something as positive as Jackson but didn't bother so why knock him?

[dubai_phil]

Like I said before

 

Game over for NOW.

 

Let's do the I told you so's after all the money is paid and Pinnacle have control.

 

The only criticism at this time is why, after being told to keep quiet, MJ decided it would be wise to answer a call (or possibly call the Echo) himself and do this, and a statement was not issued by Stuart.

 

I am also in agreement with others about this, as again, his media management skills are poor, as there is no way that he should have alluded to anything that went on behind the scenes. He may have felt he was expressing an opinion of events, but again I agree it was poorly worded.

 

I expect a number of people will be making a point to his face about this during the course of the day rather than hiding behind internet fascades.

 

Meanwhile, the core fact remains, as I said elsewhere, he had a role in the consortium that others felt needed to be done. At no time was ANY comment made by anyone related to the group about how wonderful the bid was, how fantastic the future would be.

 

All that was ever said, is that it was not MJ on his own and that others were in it and, IN EXACTLY the same way as Pinnacle's bid, those backers would not be discussed unless it all went through.

 

Anyone dissing Tony for having problems keeping his group together? Yes they are, which is just plain wrong as well. I kept trying to point out that it was a hellishly difficult process.

[Mr Nice]

Fancy a game of Go, drug smuggler?

 

Are you some kind of wind up merchant ?

[OldNick]

I dont think we should dance on his grave at any point.

 

He must have expended considerable energy and cost in order to try to put a bid together, and maybe that activity shook a couple of other interested parties out of the tree.

 

He did SOMETHING, which may lead directly or indirectly to the club being saved from Lowe and Wilde.

 

The man deserves our thanks, FFS.

I agree Alps, I have great love for the club but didnt make calls or get off my a### and try to do something about it.Im as culpable as anyone on here for doing that, but to be fair I respect anybody who is trying to save the club and hope MJ and Salz are not too much out of pocket trying to do so.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Are you some kind of wind up merchant ?

 

Are you?

[thorpie the sinner]

Like I said before

 

Game over for NOW.

 

Let's do the I told you so's after all the money is paid and Pinnacle have control.

 

The only criticism at this time is why, after being told to keep quiet, MJ decided it would be wise to answer a call (or possibly call the Echo) himself and do this, and a statement was not issued by Stuart.

 

I am also in agreement with others about this, as again, his media management skills are poor, as there is no way that he should have alluded to anything that went on behind the scenes. He may have felt he was expressing an opinion of events, but again I agree it was poorly worded.

 

I expect a number of people will be making a point to his face about this during the course of the day rather than hiding behind internet fascades.

 

Meanwhile, the core fact remains, as I said elsewhere, he had a role in the consortium that others felt needed to be done. At no time was ANY comment made by anyone related to the group about how wonderful the bid was, how fantastic the future would be.

 

All that was ever said, is that it was not MJ on his own and that others were in it and, IN EXACTLY the same way as Pinnacle's bid, those backers would not be discussed unless it all went through.

 

Anyone dissing Tony for having problems keeping his group together? Yes they are, which is just plain wrong as well. I kept trying to point out that it was a hellishly difficult process.

 

Hopefully everything will run smoothly Phil! Still don't think even after the event though MJ should be hung, drawn and quartered!! His crime, trying his nuts off to save the club! Poor media management maybe, bloody good tryer never the less!

[Smirking_Saint]

Whatever you say about the guy he tried to save the club, he put time and effort in to get a deal done.

 

So ok, he didn't complete and perhaps he was not quite up to te job or whatever but still he had a go. Better then alot of other so called saints fans out there with cash in their back pockets that are all just sitting back and hoping things will sort them selves out.

 

TBH i don't think any of us that sit back and will into the computer screen can slag of a man that made a geniune attempt to save us.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Choice between Marc Jackson and He Who Must Not Ne Hamed, I know which one I prefer.

 

Hamed is a good bloke. You just wait and see!

[Doctoroncall]

But without it you want even get started. Some were in a stronger position IMO to do something as positive as Jackson but didn't bother so why knock him?

 

From the interview, he was clear in his mind he was going to be part of the management team of Bournemouth AFC. It didn't happen and I only said I wasn't impressed with his interview technique or that he gave anything of substance.

 

He may have played a part in getting Pinnacle to move quicker, however there were other interested parties.

[carljack]

And you know that do you? Maybe you should get a job as an administrator. Mark fry must have seen something in the bid- otherwise they would have fallen at the first hurdle. He wouldnt have got this far on bull**** alone

 

As a financial analyst I must take issue with the above,it is very easy to sing sweet music to a receiver all he is after is as much Cash as possible for both him and the creditors, he is paid by the day so timewasters are in a way very welcome,he must however eventually ask for proof of funds, now nobody knows whether MJ had the 10 million he claims all we do know is that he NEVER had the 500k and in my humble opinion this was the only time Fry asked them for proof of anything, and they fell short, this coupled with the fact that a Equity fund was being used as the vehicle for part of the money plus the Bournemouth debacle involving MJ tells me we have dodged a bullet by Fry declining MJs generous offer.

 

Saint till I die!

[Frank's cousin]

Cant knock anyone who puts the time in for whatever reasons - I just dont believe MJ would ever have been successful... why? not for the lack of self beleif certainly, but because from his Echo piece its clear there were quite a few in his consortium - mostly relatively small fry with no liquid assets - the kind that say yes in principle but when it comes to parting with 1mil + in cash drop out rapidly - same as happened to him allegedly with Bournemouth - the cash/backers 'let him down'

 

I think his problem has not been lack of effort or willingness, and that must always be applauded, but he was I suspect out of his depth - his contacts book is perhaps not as full of the kind of wealthy folk WILLING to part with substantial cash to back a football club as he would like to (and us to) believe. It will be local businesses that have wealthy owners but not in the 20-30mil and higher bracket.

 

Its true he may have got lucky and found someone willing to support this plans, but I suspect he found it difficult to get them sign up officially (as we see from his Echo piece) - and given his 'history' its perhaps understandable why those WITH the Assets if interested went alone or with pinnacle

Edited 2 June, 2009 by Frank's cousin

[Micky]

MJ should come with a Government Health Warning. Whenever anybody sticks a microphone or camera within 10m of the guy he blows it. He should not, ever, be allowed to speak to any media outlet. Let him get on with his bit in the background facilitating his consortium - but never should he be allowed to be the mouthpiece for any group of business people.

 

Anybody who really thinks that he might represent some sort of saftey net, should our current deal fall through, should think again. Given some of the crass statement that he made in that short interview, I really dont see that his backers, the administrators or the fans would have that much faith in his ability to deliver.

 

He would (should) have known, above all others, that the Pinnacle deal could fall through - therefore he should have put himself in the best position to take up the mantle and run with it - our saviour. Instead of insisting that he and his consortium are still united, have the ambition and werewithall, and are working towards a deal, all he achieves is further self negative comments which give cause for threads such as this. Methinks the saftey net is not as secure as others - I would not like to be the crash test dummy for this one.

 

MJ's efforts should be applauded, but to my mind he is very Jason Euell'ish - he'll work his socks off to get in position, but there is no end product - couldn't hit a barn door from 5 yards.

[doggface]

I wanted to stay off this thread when I read it as despite my opinion of MJ, you never look a gift hourse in the mouth. That said maybe I am being too kind to assume he ever had any chance of putting a deal together.

However I have to say I have just read the full interview in the echo & unless he was misquoted, then he is still talking some total utter BS. Stay away.

[Weston Super Saint]

I dont think we should dance on his grave at any point.

 

He must have expended considerable energy and cost in order to try to put a bid together, and maybe that activity shook a couple of other interested parties out of the tree.

 

He did SOMETHING, which may lead directly or indirectly to the club being saved from Lowe and Wilde.

 

The man deserves our thanks, FFS.

 

I disagree.

 

The man is a clown, and the only thing he deserves is a spotlight in the big top!

 

I'm guessing he's either never heard of or does not understand the phrase 'once bitten, twice shy'....

 

It comes as no surprise to me that another on of MJ's 'bids' has fallen at the 'putting your money where your mouth is stage', especially considering the secrecy surrounding his so called wealthy backer

[OldNick]

especially considering the secrecy surrounding his so called wealthy backer

do you not see the irony in that.Not that I doubt Pinnacle but if MJ had no previous it would be the same deal.

[Window Cleaner]

Worry not, MJ is always "close" to takeovers, as close as you can get without ever actually putting up any money.They would have done if only they'd have been able to scrape up 500K, it's always the same with him. Long pockets, short arms.

Edited 2 June, 2009 by Window Cleaner

[Pancake]

It comes as no surprise to me that another on of MJ's 'bids' has fallen at the 'putting your money where your mouth is stage', especially considering the secrecy surrounding his so called wealthy backer

 

Except it didnt, MJ was simply beaten to it by Lynam & Co. Nothing fell, and as MJ has said himself it still there if or when needed.

[saintjay77]

I disagree.

 

The man is a clown, and the only thing he deserves is a spotlight in the big top!

 

I'm guessing he's either never heard of or does not understand the phrase 'once bitten, twice shy'....

 

It comes as no surprise to me that another on of MJ's 'bids' has fallen at the 'putting your money where your mouth is stage', especially considering the secrecy surrounding his so called wealthy backer

 

I am one that feels a little happier that LLS is on the outside. Whilst I appreciate he tried to do something, his past has done nothing to show me his efforts would ever achieve anything. So the thought of him being involved in our club at a high level would make me think our club would never go anywhere,

 

Im sure Alps was one of LLS's biggest rivals back in the day too. Which is a bit of a turn around with his now fully fledged support of the guy he once slated.

[Weston Super Saint]

do you not see the irony in that.Not that I doubt Pinnacle but if MJ had no previous it would be the same deal.

 

Unfortunately not any more!

 

I was very hesitant regarding Pinnacle and their mystery backer, but they DID put their money were their mouths are and paid up a non refundable deposit.

 

For me that goes a long way to easing my fears

[saintjay77]

Except it didnt, MJ was simply beaten to it by Lynam & Co. Nothing fell, and as MJ has said himself it still there if or when needed.

 

LLS's bid was there for a week or so but they refused/couldn't to come up with the readies. If that was the final hurdle I would guess that would be marked down as a faller rather than being still in the race.

[Weston Super Saint]

Except it didnt, MJ was simply beaten to it by Lynam & Co. Nothing fell, and as MJ has said himself it still there if or when needed.

 

Nope nothing to suggest that...

 

The Saints fan said that at the 11th hour one of his financial backers refused to pay the non-refundable deposit of half a million pounds to cover this month’s wages.

 

He also goes on to say that the only person with money pulled out because he didn't believe what Fry was saying.

 

That to me suggests that perhaps Fry was saying one thing - and to be fair has been pretty consistent all along - and MJ was telling his wealthy backer something completely different [if this wealthy backer even existed in the first place!!].

 

He also says they have liquid assets that proved to be anything but liquid! The guy should write for Jackanory :shock:

[Scummer]

I wonder how the MJ lot were planning to pay up if most of their assets weren't liquid? We aren't exactly in a position where we can wait a few months for them to free up their funds.

[OldNick]

I wonder how the MJ lot were planning to pay up if most of their assets weren't liquid? We aren't exactly in a position where we can wait a few months for them to free up their funds.

if you read the item, 1 of the consortium have massive liquid funds. He was to pay the cash deposit.

[Marsdinho]

And the Pinnacle consortium was united from the off?

 

Unless you know something I dont, these two situations look different to me...and I quote

 

Tony Lynam: "When I projected the sheer cost of this, a couple of the guys were a little less willing to throw cheques at me. Ultimately I have in fact now entered into this "exclusivity agreement" on behalf of ONE client only."

 

Marc Jackson: "If I hadn’t been badly let down by another member of the consortium we would have had the deal on Thursday. We had an opportunity to sign exclusivity. The structure of our bid had been accepted by the administrator, but we did not put in the £500,000.”

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The Echo: "The Saints fan said that at the 11th hour one of his financial backers refused to pay the non-refundable deposit of half a million pounds to cover this month’s wages. "

[Scummer]

if you read the item, 1 of the consortium have massive liquid funds. He was to pay the cash deposit.

 

Yeah, so he was going to front up £500k. But they'd have then needed to lay their hands on another £10M or so in the next couple of weeks. Was he going to loan it to the others while they sold their houses etc?

[OldNick]

Unfortunately not any more!

 

I was very hesitant regarding Pinnacle and their mystery backer, but they DID put their money were their mouths are and paid up a non refundable deposit.

 

For me that goes a long way to easing my fears

! thing that I havent seen posted elsewhere.Frys statement said an undisclosed deposit had been paid, and so now the wages would be paid.I wonder if people took it as 500k and that wasn't the case.

It doesnt matter but to give a 500k non refundable deposit is hell of a risk just to look at the books.Its like having to pay £200 to get the chance to check over a 3 piece suite you atre interested in.

[OldNick]

Yeah, so he was going to front up £500k. But they'd have then needed to lay their hands on another £10M or so in the next couple of weeks. Was he going to loan it to the others while they sold their houses etc?

No I dont think it works quite like that.The others would not be able to hand over a non refundable deposit but would be able to invest for their cliens.I think that is how it works

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Nick

Alpine is right.

 

So what exactly is your point Nick?

 

It was commented on many times on here, and it was posted many times that at least there was a possible option.

 

All you are doing is repeating what has been said on about 5,000 other threads.

 

Could you PLEASE tell me where it has been published/announced that Pinnacle have completed the project and are now in full operational control of SFC Ltd?

 

or is it more correct that has not actually happened yet, and a group of which MJ is a member have at least made the comment that in case of an absolute emergency, they stand ready to try and save the club.

 

Would you prefer there NOT to be a safety net? or does you blind prejudice to ALL the points that were made about MJ being in a GROUP of people mean you think nothing should be done.

 

Anyobody who lives in the UK should have some form of insurance policy. Nobody likes insurance companies, but at least IF they are needed they are there as long as you have a valid claim

 

If I was going to have to rely on a safety net I wouldn't want it to be held by Marc Jackson, Phil, sorry! At least I would know what I was facing without a net and would take extra precautions.

[OldNick]

If I was going to have to rely on a safety net I wouldn't want it to be held by Marc Jackson, Phil, sorry! At least I would know what I was facing without a net and would take extra precautions.

I understand that FF, lets hope we dont have to call International Rescue then, Thunderbirds are gooooo...phut phutt phutt... oh bu####

Joking aside though nobody has come back and countered how much it would take MJ to get to the stage he did.Afterall Fry would be in contact with him and lawyers up to that stage. Surely you just cant get so deep just giving him a ring now and again without expensive corporate lawyers not been instructed??

[Weston Super Saint]

! thing that I havent seen posted elsewhere.Frys statement said an undisclosed deposit had been paid, and so now the wages would be paid.I wonder if people took it as 500k and that wasn't the case.

It doesnt matter but to give a 500k non refundable deposit is hell of a risk just to look at the books.Its like having to pay £200 to get the chance to check over a 3 piece suite you atre interested in.

 

Not really.

 

They've paid an undisclosed amount. It might be more than £500k - but I doubt it!

 

The fact is they DID pay money, and the club will have enough to continue trading for a further 21 days, and the wages will be paid.

 

It was only a week ago that a 'source' [*cough* MJ *cough*] told the Echo that the administrator had waived the £500k non refundable deposit to enter exclusivity

[Weston Super Saint]

I understand that FF, lets hope we dont have to call International Rescue then, Thunderbirds are gooooo...phut phutt phutt... oh bu####

Joking aside though nobody has come back and countered how much it would take MJ to get to the stage he did.Afterall Fry would be in contact with him and lawyers up to that stage. Surely you just cant get so deep just giving him a ring now and again without expensive corporate lawyers not been instructed??

 

Apparently you can, TWICE

[OldNick]

Not really.

 

They've paid an undisclosed amount. It might be more than £500k - but I doubt it!

 

The fact is they DID pay money, and the club will have enough to continue trading for a further 21 days, and the wages will be paid.

 

It was only a week ago that a 'source' [*cough* MJ *cough*] told the Echo that the administrator had waived the £500k non refundable deposit to enter exclusivity

I missed that in the Echo but had been told that might happen.It was foolish if he did as any opponents would have been notified of that..perhaps he was part of the plan by Fry to lift the price afterall!

[OldNick]

Apparently you can, TWICE

Lol

[Weston Super Saint]

I missed that in the Echo but had been told that might happen.It was foolish if he did as any opponents would have been notified of that..perhaps he was part of the plan by Fry to lift the price afterall!

 

If there was a plan by Fry to lift the price in such a manner, I would expect he will serve the appropriate amount of time in jail for breaking the laws

[NickG]

bottom line - his consortium could not come up with 500,000 and thought Fry was a liar.

 

Doesn't sound like safety net.

 

Remember he got closer with cherries before that totally failed to stand up to final scrutiny and fell to bits.

 

I have not seen or heard anything that makes me feel grateful to him - at all.

[Toadhall Saint]

Like I said before

 

Game over for NOW.

 

Let's do the I told you so's after all the money is paid and Pinnacle have control.

 

The only criticism at this time is why, after being told to keep quiet, MJ decided it would be wise to answer a call (or possibly call the Echo) himself and do this, and a statement was not issued by Stuart.

 

I am also in agreement with others about this, as again, his media management skills are poor, as there is no way that he should have alluded to anything that went on behind the scenes. He may have felt he was expressing an opinion of events, but again I agree it was poorly worded.

 

I expect a number of people will be making a point to his face about this during the course of the day rather than hiding behind internet fascades.

 

Meanwhile, the core fact remains, as I said elsewhere, he had a role in the consortium that others felt needed to be done. At no time was ANY comment made by anyone related to the group about how wonderful the bid was, how fantastic the future would be.

 

All that was ever said, is that it was not MJ on his own and that others were in it and, IN EXACTLY the same way as Pinnacle's bid, those backers would not be discussed unless it all went through.

 

Anyone dissing Tony for having problems keeping his group together? Yes they are, which is just plain wrong as well. I kept trying to point out that it was a hellishly difficult process.

 

And there in is the problem with MJ - likes the media a tad too much. He fronted an equity fund, a fund in which one of the main players decided to get out but only when asked to stump up the required amount. The whole thing sounds a tad on the dodgy side, from the front man that can't keep schtum to the guy with the money that then did a runner. Of course this is just my opinion.

 

If the Pinnacle bid does hit a dead end then I hope MJ can back up his comments but I doubt it.

[Micky]

Like I said before

 

Game over for NOW.

 

Let's do the I told you so's after all the money is paid and Pinnacle have control.

 

The only criticism at this time is why, after being told to keep quiet, MJ decided it would be wise to answer a call (or possibly call the Echo) himself and do this, and a statement was not issued by Stuart.

 

I am also in agreement with others about this, as again, his media management skills are poor, as there is no way that he should have alluded to anything that went on behind the scenes. He may have felt he was expressing an opinion of events, but again I agree it was poorly worded.

 

I expect a number of people will be making a point to his face about this during the course of the day rather than hiding behind internet fascades.

 

Meanwhile, the core fact remains, as I said elsewhere, he had a role in the consortium that others felt needed to be done. At no time was ANY comment made by anyone related to the group about how wonderful the bid was, how fantastic the future would be.

 

All that was ever said, is that it was not MJ on his own and that others were in it and, IN EXACTLY the same way as Pinnacle's bid, those backers would not be discussed unless it all went through.

 

Anyone dissing Tony for having problems keeping his group together? Yes they are, which is just plain wrong as well. I kept trying to point out that it was a hellishly difficult process.

 

Phil I appreciate that you are friends with MJ, but please do not do us the disservice of intimating that we are unwilling to air our views 1 2 1 with MJ himself.

 

I for one would like to phone him, thank him for his efforts, lambaste him for his media skills and management acumen, and ask him then to stick masking tape over his mouth on conclusion of our call.

 

The only reason we debate him here, is because unlike you (I suspect), we do not have his personal mobile number or IM, not because we are hiding behind internet fascades. If you'd like to furnish us with his number - I'm sure that his phone will be ringing off the hook tonight.

[NickG]

phil, don't take it personally, sorry if he is a mate - we are not judging him as a mate or even as a whole person just these schemes.

[dubai_phil]

phil, don't take it personally, sorry if he is a mate - we are not judging him as a mate or even as a whole person just these schemes.

 

And fortunately the backers did not judge him on what they read on the internet, simply on what went on during the actual process.

 

I have no issue with people who use the knowledge they have gained to have an opinion on him or on the legal structure of the consortium and what contracts were in place. It just is annoying when they go from an opinion to a personal attack without having all the facts in place.

 

If it had been necessary to do the deal and save the club, it would have been saved and of course the details would have come out and opinions could have stayed the same or some may have said - oh. Fact was it has NOT been needed, and I for one am very thankful. We were all ready to screw up our lives and help out, but let's face it, swapping this place for Southampton and a life of moans from the fans is not something any sane person would choose to do if there was any choice.

 

So I'm chuffed to fook I'm still playing golf nd looking forward to the Race to Dubai in November and I still have a football team.

 

But ask yourself just ONE question. If you had found out that the Irish group had gone from deposit and offer late Friday afternoon to nothing on the Monday and there was nobody else ready and the wages had to be paid on Thursday, and the olnly solution was to admin SFC Ltd and start next season with -25 points when for all the avialable information meant Salz & co were only a hint on the internet - is he still a moron for trying?

 

He said in the article the funds were not liquid, but they were contractually bound to be available on the completion date and contracts were signed. It was the urgent need for the 500k cash that was the issue.

 

Oh and FWIW, that 500k issue could have been resolved 3 weeks earlier if the initial bid and negotiations had been handled better by both sides.

 

But it's OK, I said wait and see, never said he was the new messiah, just a part of a cog.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

And fortunately the backers did not judge him on what they read on the internet, simply on what went on during the actual process.

 

I have no issue with people who use the knowledge they have gained to have an opinion on him or on the legal structure of the consortium and what contracts were in place. It just is annoying when they go from an opinion to a personal attack without having all the facts in place.

 

If it had been necessary to do the deal and save the club, it would have been saved and of course the details would have come out and opinions could have stayed the same or some may have said - oh. Fact was it has NOT been needed, and I for one am very thankful. We were all ready to screw up our lives and help out, but let's face it, swapping this place for Southampton and a life of moans from the fans is not something any sane person would choose to do if there was any choice.

 

So I'm chuffed to fook I'm still playing golf nd looking forward to the Race to Dubai in November and I still have a football team.

 

But ask yourself just ONE question. If you had found out that the Irish group had gone from deposit and offer late Friday afternoon to nothing on the Monday and there was nobody else ready and the wages had to be paid on Thursday, and the olnly solution was to admin SFC Ltd and start next season with -25 points when for all the avialable information meant Salz & co were only a hint on the internet - is he still a moron for trying?

 

He said in the article the funds were not liquid, but they were contractually bound to be available on the completion date and contracts were signed. It was the urgent need for the 500k cash that was the issue.

 

Oh and FWIW, that 500k issue could have been resolved 3 weeks earlier if the initial bid and negotiations had been handled better by both sides.

 

But it's OK, I said wait and see, never said he was the new messiah, just a part of a cog.

 

 

Phil, I really respect you as a poster and your heart in deffo in the right place but you are flogging a dead horse with your support for MJ. I am sure he is a nice bloke and well-intentioned etc etc etc but having spoken to him on the phone a few times I would not want him anywhere near my football club no matter how badly stricken we were. He simply lacks the ability to "deliver" imo and his presence has not only artificially raised the price Pinnacle and others have had to pay (thereby less funds for the team) but also prolonged the agony. He is a good old fashioned bull****ter who has been caught out on more than one occasion and sucked a few in along the way.

 

And now he is all over the Echo with his "I'm in regular contact with Matt" crap. He and the Echo make good partners. Let's move on. Hey I'd happily buy him a pint - he is a Saints fan after all but no more nonsense, please. Cheers Duncan

[NickG]

Phil, I really respect you as a poster and your heart in deffo in the right place but you are flogging a dead horse with your support for MJ. I am sure he is a nice bloke and well-intentioned etc etc etc but having spoken to him on the phone a few times I would not want him anywhere near my football club no matter how badly stricken we were. He simply lacks the ability to "deliver" imo and his presence has not only artificially raised the price Pinnacle and others have had to pay (thereby less funds for the team) but also prolonged the agony. He is a good old fashioned bull****ter who has been caught out on more than one occasion and sucked a few in along the way.

 

And now he is all over the Echo with his "I'm in regular contact with Matt" crap. He and the Echo make good partners. Let's move on. Hey I'd happily buy him a pint - he is a Saints fan after all but no more nonsense, please. Cheers Duncan

 

point that many of us are trying to get across, not that he is moron or evil just the whole saga with Bournemouth, saying he was in control when he wasn't, failing to come up with funding, that interview when he does come across..how can I put this politely? - not the sharpest most professional business man in the village, made us all a bit concerned that he was a timewaster - then we see his comments today about his team badly letting him down again, about having cash but not putting it in because Fry was a liar etc - truly make us think that he was never really going to do it and not who we want involved.

[benjii]

Give me Rupert Lowe armed with nothing but an old Barbour jacket with a dead chicken in the pocket and a wicked glint in his eye over LongLifeToodleCherryPipJacksonXerox any day.

[NickG]

Give me Rupert Lowe armed with nothing but an old Barbour jacket with a dead chicken in the pocket and a wicked glint in his eye over LongLifeToodleCherryPipJacksonXerox any day.

 

lol

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Give me Rupert Lowe armed with nothing but an old Barbour jacket with a dead chicken in the pocket and a wicked glint in his eye over LongLifeToodleCherryPipJacksonXerox any day.

 

 

As a confirmed and perennial "Lowe is evil" poster, I must (much to my chagrin) have to concur with you, benjii.

[hamster]

Leave Marc Jackson alone!!!

 

Thanks for your efforts Marc, good luck in life.

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[dubai_phil]

point that many of us are trying to get across, not that he is moron or evil just the whole saga with Bournemouth, saying he was in control when he wasn't, failing to come up with funding, that interview when he does come across..how can I put this politely? - not the sharpest most professional business man in the village, made us all a bit concerned that he was a timewaster - then we see his comments today about his team badly letting him down again, about having cash but not putting it in because Fry was a liar etc - truly make us think that he was never really going to do it and not who we want involved.

 

I actually did make the point it was time to move on in another thread before this came up.

 

Let us hope everything goes to plan and Pinnacle get to the end of the process all primed, planned and ready to go, as I for one would NEVER want a Saints fan to have to make the choice that Benji alluded to!

 

IF his actions caused the cost to Pinnacle to be increased then I will bow my head in shame.

However before I do that I would question whether it may simply have helped to actually make one party finally decide what price he could actually accept.

For that comment I didn't get anything from MJ. THAT problem, as I posted before came from someone utterly unrelated.

 

My only hope is that like other dirty laundry that some people may hold from "The Old Days", it NEVER comes out again after tonight.

 

Just complete ASAP Tony and let's move on