Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1) No spin 2) Employ a good manager and let him manage. 3) Don't PM Hypochondriac as he's not to be trusted. Ban all posters who send threatening pms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Please stop, it's getting scary being stalked by a teenager. You'll be asking me if i like bros next. How many results does Google give you for Solent Stars you clever boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 How many results does Google give you for Solent Stars you clever boy? I preferred it when Paul Philp was playing...haha...good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Well i do not want to see everything aired in public and would prefer it actually 100% confidential and no boardroom leaks. Mr NIce would like it under wraps. Figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 There's only one rule they should go for. Never, under any circumstances, base any decision about the club on what the consensus of fan's opinion thinks they should do. Especially don't listen to a single 'Anyone but' campaign as they are the main reason we are where are are today. 'Anyone But Hoddle' got us Sturrock (and then Wiggley and Saggy) = Relegation 'Anyone But Lowe' got us Wilde which led to the drunken Scot being given £8m to pi ss up against the wall which led to Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Ban all posters who send threatening pms Does that meam that I will get no more PM's from you calling me pathetic?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Richard of Woolston Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Run the Club as you see fit (you can't do any worse than taking it into Administration) and ignore Message Boards like this who are generally populated by well-meaning people who could not run a school crossing. 2. Do not spend more money than we have - or you will end up in Administration. 3. Enjoy the first few weeks before everybody turns on you when we have not wiped out the 10 point deficit and got to the top of the League by Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 At least make the beer drinkable by cleaning the lines once a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 You paid, its your toy, ignore fans on internet sites, if they wanted to have the club they should have earned more money so they could have bought it as long as the club is moving forward (i.e. winning games at home) I will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 There's only one rule they should go for. Never, under any circumstances, base any decision about the club on what the consensus of fan's opinion thinks they should do. Especially don't listen to a single 'Anyone but' campaign as they are the main reason we are where are are today. 'Anyone But Hoddle' got us Sturrock (and then Wiggley and Saggy) = Relegation 'Anyone But Lowe' got us Wilde which led to the drunken Scot being given £8m to pi ss up against the wall which led to Administration. Very true but 'the anyone but Lowe' Mk1 was followed 3 years later by 'Lowe out and replaced with someone we don't know' Mk2 Don't listen to fans who shout for the sacking of the manager after 1 game. In fact don't listen to the fans and run the club as if you were managing your own personal finances whilst ensuring a comfortable retirement. Has that been done before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Don't listen to any of the advice given on here Read it by all means, then consult those you trust, then make your decisions. You never know, us fans on here may collectively get to type the entire works of Shakespeare. But more than likely not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Employ the best manager possible 2. Give the manager as much resources as possible 3. However much you know about football, accept the fact that your manager knows more and let him manage. In other words, do the opposite to what Lowe did and you will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 At least make the beer drinkable by cleaning the lines once a season. In this country we call them queues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Employ the best manager possible 2. Give the manager as much resources as possible 3. However much you know about football, accept the fact that your manager knows more and let him manage. In other words, do the opposite to what Lowe did and you will be fine. In other words: 1. No Strachan 2. No academy to produce bankable assests like Walcott, Bale, Jones, Surman and Gobern;) 3. Yes MLT you know nothing about football so stay out of team affairs. Is that what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Does that meam that I will get no more PM's from you calling me pathetic?? Provided you don't start obessing again that I am Lord Marland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Read it by all means, then consult those you trust, then make your decisions. You never know, us fans on here may collectively get to type the entire works of Shakespeare. But more than likely not! Indeed, I have merely made an indent into his work for potential quotes. Milton and Shaw are my preferred trolley of choice at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 In this country we call them queues. Call them what you like, they still need to be cleaned occasionally. Better still sell cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Indeed, I have merely made an indent into his work for potential quotes. Milton and Shaw are my preferred trolley of choice at the moment. Did you mean that? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 6. if not well versed in the media' date=' get some PR/Media training - never too late to learn and part of the biggest problems that the previous regimes had was they were all crap in the media.[/quote'] They weren't crap in the media, they tried to control it, that was the problem. Since the first day he came into the club, Lowe tried to control the media agenda. His perception of the media was formed during his days in The City, where the big fear is any sort of negative publicity about a company will affect its share price. The easiest and most readily-available cure for that is to schmooze the media, and I have to say, financial journalists are the most pliant, malleable and easily bought section of the fourth estate. Most of them are given their stories (and the breifing how to write them!) over long boozy lunches, and Lowe came into football thinking the sports media would be equally easy to control. He could not come to terms with the fact that the football media is fuelled by gossip and rumour and that agents with vested interest in players, and football clubs in general leak information like sieves. Consequently, instead of accepting that working premise and arriving at a sensible working practice, he was always at war with the media. Whenever you approached him for a comment on a particular topic (which you knew to be true) his first reaction was to question where you got your information from. That in itself shows a complete lack of knowledge of how the media works as any journalist worth his salt will never reveal his source. Those with a good working relationship with the press know they can deal with difficult, negative stories on a basis of trust. This means giving journalists two versions of the story: the 'official' version for public consumption, and the off-the-record steer. The trust is placed in the journalist writing the story in such a way that his purpose is served by being able to print the story, but having pulled his punch sufficiently to mitigate the full negativity. From day one, Lowe placed any hint of trust in any journalists (some might say he was sensible not to do so!) and treated them like lepers. People who are smart and clever with the media know there is a time to sit down quietly with them, mark their cards with off-the-records chats. They know that journos are generally simple working souls, who if they think they are being let into the circle of trust and entrusted with sensitive information, will largely reciprocate that trust. If they break that trust, then you would be right in ending the relationship. Lowe never wanted any sort of relationship. He crassly thought he never had any need of one, and his media relationships were strictly a one-way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Run the Club as you see fit (you can't do any worse than taking it into Administration) and ignore Message Boards like this who are generally populated by well-meaning people who could not run a school crossing. 2. Do not spend more money than we have - or you will end up in Administration. 3. Enjoy the first few weeks before everybody turns on you when we have not wiped out the 10 point deficit and got to the top of the League by Christmas. 4. Make it safe for Rich to be able to walk the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Did you mean that? ;-) I may be many things ESB but an inability to laugh at myself and join the joke is not one of them. I'm no more troll than you are btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Provided you don't start obessing again that I am Lord Marland. I can think whatever I like about you. I did not send you an offensive PM. You sent a PM calling me sad and pathetic. For you now to ask for offensive PM posters to be banned is hypocrisy of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 My Advice for what its worth :- 1. The league position never lies. 2 .You can please some of the people some of the time (this is what Rupert Lowe failed to do in the last year) 3. You can't please all the people all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Do not talk about Fight Club. 2. Do not talk about Fight Club. 3. Ignore 98% of internet forum advice/rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1) Find and back the best manager available. 2) Repeat the above. 3) Repeat the above. As Bill Shankly once said, football is a very simple game complicated by those who should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 My Advice for what its worth :- 1. The league position never lies. 2 .You can please some of the people some of the time (this is what Rupert Lowe failed to do in the last year) 3. You can't please all the people all of the time. Who would not be pleased to win the league then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Who would not be pleased to win the league then... LOL OK.............possible for 5 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 I can think whatever I like about you. I did not send you an offensive PM. You sent a PM calling me sad and pathetic. For you now to ask for offensive PM posters to be banned is hypocrisy of the highest order. Tame, once again you don't know what you are talking about and you can only comment on your side. It bears no comparison to the action of others and in your case I responded out of exasperation because you seemed to be getting a kick out of stalking what you laughingly thought was a member of the House of Lords and in public. Yes I thought you were sad and pathetic and still do regrettably. Best switch off your pm function in my experience and if you can't say it in front of others then don't say it and it avoids reading about the double standards of others. Unfortunately, it means for the odd bad apple I am unable to communicate off forum with people I did enjoy chatting with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 No academy, no shiny new stadium, no premiership facilities in general, no FA Cup final appearance, no 8 year run in the premiership, no resolve and commitment in trying to keep the club going, no prudent financial policy, etc. Just one piece of advice to the new owners - focus on the present and future and neither dwell or comment on the past. Lead some of our fans by the example you set. Wes for a man who harps on about letting bygones be bygones you need to start practicing what you preach as you are acting like a man who has fallen in love with their captor and clearly missing Lowe as a focus of your general bitterness and unhappiness. The academy already exists and it is entirely up to the new owner how he proceeds with it. It existed pre-Lowe too. We had been in the Premiership already for many years before Lowe got us relegated, not once, but twice. I hope that the new owner doesn't try and emulate Lowe's record turnover of managers, once that he has appointed his own choice of replacement for Wotte, that is. The new stadium also already exists, although it wasn't the one that we should have had, the former incumbent of the chairmanship having provided a shining example of how to **** off the local authorities while making planning applications. I'm sure that being a much more successful businessman than Lowe, he doesn't need any lessons on financial prudence, not that Lowe was an example of that. What other idiot would have ditched a competant manager and replaced him with others who had not the first idea of football in this country or at this level? What other idiot would have charged Premiership ticket prices to watch the kids who were free to watch the year before? What other idiot would feel that quantity was preferable to quality, or could believe that you could pay peanuts and not get monkeys? What other idiot could antagonise and alienate his customers and still expect them to attend regardless? Nineteen: Just one piece of advice to the new owners - focus on the present and future and neither dwell or comment on the past. Lead some of our fans by the example you set. I will be expecting to see you paying heed to your own advice, or else you would be open to accusations of hypocrisy, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 I may be many things ESB but an inability to laugh at myself and join the joke is not one of them. Can you restructure that sentence so that it makes sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 10-point plan for the new owners: 1 Keep expenditure below income 2 Find a good manager and back him (i.e. get rid of Wotte) 3 Communicate with the fans, but don't patronise them 4 Price tickets to fill the ground, STs no more than £300 5 No Stewart Dennis pre-match 6 No pre-match music 7 Don't read any message boards 8 Get some bottles of real ale for sale in the concourse 9 Don't listen to any spook stories about 'Keyser Soze' 10 Return the club to the city of Southampton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Tame, once again you don't know what you are talking about and you can only comment on your side. It bears no comparison to the action of others and in your case I responded out of exasperation because you seemed to be getting a kick out of stalking what you laughingly thought was a member of the House of Lords and in public. Yes I thought you were sad and pathetic and still do regrettably. Best switch off your pm function in my experience and if you can't say it in front of others then don't say it and it avoids reading about the double standards of others. Unfortunately, it means for the odd bad apple I am unable to communicate off forum with people I did enjoy chatting with. What on earth are you on about??? You sent me and a few others a PM entitled "you sad, little men" in which you called us pathetic. You are now saying that you do not believe in offensive PM's. I think that is the definition of hypocrisy. You now ramble on about the House of Lords. Have you ever tried the stage ?? You are just hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 (edited) 1.The academy already exists and it is entirely up to the new owner how he proceeds with it. It existed pre-Lowe too. 2. We had been in the Premiership already for many years before Lowe got us relegated, not once, but twice. 3. I hope that the new owner doesn't try and emulate Lowe's record turnover of managers, once that he has appointed his own choice of replacement for Wotte, that is. 4. The new stadium also already exists, although it wasn't the one that we should have had, the former incumbent of the chairmanship having provided a shining example of how to **** off the local authorities while making planning applications. 5. I'm sure that being a much more successful businessman than Lowe, he doesn't need any lessons on financial prudence, not that Lowe was an example of that. What other idiot would have ditched a competant manager and replaced him with others who had not the first idea of football in this country or at this level? What other idiot would have charged Premiership ticket prices to watch the kids who were free to watch the year before? What other idiot would feel that quantity was preferable to quality, or could believe that you could pay peanuts and not get monkeys? What other idiot could antagonise and alienate his customers and still expect them to attend regardless? Wes, 1. Sure we had an academy before Lowe, but it was one of his strategies to invest more heavily in it to teh tune of some 2 mil at its height which is why we had quite a few coming through at once and for about 3-4 years were always top of the academy league or there abouts.... and yet at teh time many fans were questioning the value of the academy spend.... 2. Wes, would not expect that rather simplistic line from you... 3. Sure we want stability and Lowes record is not great, but with the exception of Pearson, the otehr good ones we had were not sacked or 'mutually consented' but left for their own reasons to be fair. 4. Only Saints fans would look to blame someone for stoneham - Those kind of planning negotiations are NOR 5. a) You are not that naive that you believe the JP/Wotte appointment was financial? It was decided BEFORE we were even safe in the CCC as rightly or wrongly its always been a thing with Lowe to go continental - so that cant be used to criticise pruduce or lack of it - For years in the prem we were a shining examplle of how a club SHOULD be run financially within its means - Lowes problem in the prem was not poor financial management, but the unflexible nature of the that policy on how it was spent, the wage cap etc restricting managers from certain levels of player b) The ticket prices where dictated to by ST prices already set by CROUCH and his team.... Edited 2 June, 2009 by Frank's cousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Appoint a good manager and keep him. 2. Appoint a good manager and keep him. 3. Appoint a good manager and keep him. Everything else will flow from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Bring back Woggy the kitman. Let Le Tiss teach players how to strike the ball. Hire a special defence coach. Offer kids a £20 special which includes a T Shirt, match ticket/programme, burger/chips and a drink. They are our future. No coaches are allowed on the bench wearing shorts at -3, Thats crazy. And finally generate a logo throughout the city saying 'Follow the saints in gods city' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertfunnyname Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Appoint a good manager. 2. Back him - keeping him would be nice but as with Martinez and Darren Ferguson sometimes you just can't. 3. Let the manager talk to the press and avoid giving interviews yourself. The club needs one voice and for that voice to be authorative. Make it clear to the press (and the players) the manager is in charge and his decisions will be supported. The worst thing is when you have a chairman more often on SSN than a team's manager - it suggests you are in it for the fame and attention and not the club. 4. Let fans give their opinions but don't think you have to listen to them. Our experience of Championship Manager and fantasy football makes us all think we are experts - when we're not. 5. Fans will appreciate effort - be it in the boardroom, on the sidelines or on the pitch. So have a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 In this country we call them queues. No, he meant the beer lines as you well knew, now stop confusing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Does that meam that I will get no more PM's from you calling me pathetic?? lol at Nineteen Troll calling someone else pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1) Take your time to get your manager, it's one of the biggest decisions you will make. When you get him give him a long period of time to prove himself. 2) Stay in the background. Job satisfaction should come from seeing the club do well rather than getting your face in the paper. 3) Of course balance the books but don't be afraid to take the odd calculated gamble. The odd exciting signing will put bums on seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 In other words: 1. No Strachan 2. No academy to produce bankable assests like Walcott, Bale, Jones, Surman and Gobern;) 3. Yes MLT you know nothing about football so stay out of team affairs. Is that what you mean? I think the best lesson the new owner can learn from Lowe is: If you find a strategy that works, I.e. appointing an experienced manager (WGS), and letting him get on with his job, stick with that strategy!!! Don't, under any circumstances, think that you know better and adopt a completely different strategy, I.e. appoint a novice manager in a 'continental set-up', when the old strategy actually worked fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Don't listen to any of the advice given on here Thats the best bit of advice I've seen on here! Take a bow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 What on earth are you on about??? You sent me and a few others a PM entitled "you sad, little men" in which you called us pathetic. You are now saying that you do not believe in offensive PM's. I think that is the definition of hypocrisy. But that's the problem when you're trolling and posting anything for a bite, as you often forget just what princples you're sticking up for today;) Who else has received one of his abusive PM's:smt084 NineSunThirdFlashTeen CanDanceManBearBeastTeen in "Shoots himself in foot Shocker (again)":D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Agree, I really dont want to see Saints playing in the FA Cup final again; what a **** Lowe was eh. And I don't want to read yet another sarcastic, condescending post from Pancake. There should be set limits to the amount of user smugness posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Take notice of the Silent majority of Saints fans and avoid being swayed by the vocal and often very mistaken minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 There's only one rule they should go for. Never, under any circumstances, base any decision about the club on what the consensus of fan's opinion thinks they should do. Especially don't listen to a single 'Anyone but' campaign as they are the main reason we are where are are today. 'Anyone But Hoddle' got us Sturrock (and then Wiggley and Saggy) = Relegation 'Anyone But Lowe' got us Wilde which led to the drunken Scot being given £8m to pi ss up against the wall which led to Administration. I would agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Use the summer period wisely to - bring in a good Manager - bring in some good players for L1 - £200 adult ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 I think the best lesson the new owner can learn from Lowe is: If you find a strategy that works, I.e. appointing an experienced manager (WGS), and letting him get on with his job, stick with that strategy!!! Don't, under any circumstances, think that you know better and adopt a completely different strategy, I.e. appoint a novice manager in a 'continental set-up', when the old strategy actually worked fine! That's just it though, Pearson's strategy didn't work fine and had more basis in luck than judgement. If Pearson had delivered a better win ratio and we were safe with 2 games to go instead of plummeting into the bottom 3 he may have been considered a bit more bankable at the time the decisions were made. To suggest he was so important to the future of the club as at this time last year would be smug after timing at best. It was never a question of knowing better but identifying what you could afford and doing the best you could with that whilst trying to protect and build for the future. The damage had been done in the previous two seasons and Lowe was in the realms of crisis management but the myopic fan and their unrealistic expectations have seemingly failed to grasp that simple concept. Dread to think how some of you manage your own finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 But that's the problem when you're trolling and posting anything for a bite, as you often forget just what princples you're sticking up for today;) Who else has received one of his abusive PM's:smt084 NineSunThirdFlashTeen CanDanceManBearBeastTeen in "Shoots himself in foot Shocker (again)":D:D Grow up you sad little man, how are you going to be a smug ITK in the brave new world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 lol at Nineteen Troll calling someone else pathetic. How is that Google search going Stanley? You're way to clever for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 1. Employ a manager that has a good combination of experience in the English leagues and innovation. 2. Ensure the squad is lean and mean, made up of the best possible players that our budget will allow, but also ensure investment in playing staff is matched with high ambition. 3. Make sure you treat your faithful customers - the ST holders - like they are your most precious commodity. They will then remain supporters who feel valued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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