Marsdinho Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Totaly agree with you Nickh. I was lucky enough to play at Saints Aid and yes it was a dissapointing turnout but as a season ticket holder for 25 years plus it just felt good to do something to support the club. I dont have millions in the bank unfortunately so it was the one thing i could do and although we all new that financialy it wouldnt make a difference I think the aim was to show any potential buyers that the fans really do care. I dont agree with this at all. Do you honestly believe that all these business men that were thinking about launching a bid, had one eye on the Saints Aid attendance figures. Can you imagine them sat there thinking "you know what, I might invest in a south coast football club, hang on a second, what if they dont have a fan base that I can sell tickets too, what if no one turns up to our league games. I know, ill just pop along to Saints aid to see how many fans we have.." Also, what major event did the skates hold then to attract the Sheik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The Saints Aid website was quite clear IMHO. It said money would either go to help bail Saints out if no new owner was forthcoming OR go to local charities if a new owner came along. Interesting that the message didn't seem to get across though I think it was the other initiatives which muddied the waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I dont agree with this at all. Do you honestly believe that all these business men that were thinking about launching a bid, had one eye on the Saints Aid attendance figures. Can you imagine them sat there thinking "you know what, I might invest in a south coast football club, hang on a second, what if they dont have a fan base that I can sell tickets too, what if no one turns up to our league games. I know, ill just pop along to Saints aid to see how many fans we have.." Also, what major event did the skates hold then to attract the Sheik. I agree. Saint Aid will have had minimal impact on any investors getting involved with saints. Probably no impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 How many players went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I noticed that the original date for Saints Aid was put back due to "overwhelming response" Who from????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I noticed that the original date for Saints Aid was put back due to "overwhelming response" Who from????? This is getting a daft now. We all know the events flopped. I thought they might. But those organising it did their best and they made an effort. Fair play to them for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Im not denying that they didnt do their best. But they should at least be able to answer a few questions afterwards. Maybe, as a result of this debate, they will learn lessons for the next time.....;-) Ill leave it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Totaly agree with you Nickh. I was lucky enough to play at Saints Aid and yes it was a dissapointing turnout but as a season ticket holder for 25 years plus it just felt good to do something to support the club. I dont have millions in the bank unfortunately so it was the one thing i could do and although we all new that financialy it wouldnt make a difference I think the aim was to show any potential buyers that the fans really do care. Maybe this is how it should of been sold to the fans then mate. Instead of 'Saints Aid' it should of been called 'Saints United'! Everyone knew that the odd 50k was going to make absolutely no difference to the debt, it was like p1ssing in the wind, but if it had been billed as a 'show of solidarity' a show of unity i feel it would of been better supported, especially as it could of been cheaper to attend if we weren't fund raising! The other reason it was poorly supported was because of the shadow of Lowe, the thought of him taking us into league 1 and administration, the fans donating £10,000's to keep the club going then him coming in and buying the club cheap was a massive fear, of mine anyway! Note. fair play to everyone involved, it does take balls to stick your head above the parapet as your slagged of by one side or the other anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I respect the guys ambitions and efforts but it was always going to be nearly impossible to get a decent turnout. Watching live acts is not everyones cup of tea, probably a small minority. The acts although good no doubt, were local. And people can't blame people for not 'turning up anyway' , if you don't like live music, which alot of people don't, then it would be rather irritating having to listen to it all night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 And people can't blame people for not 'turning up anyway' , if you don't like live music, which alot of people don't, then it would be rather irritating having to listen to it all night! Age also comes into it. Old people (the over 40's) wouldn't like all that loud music. A car boot sale or a fete would have catered for them more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Cant imagine too many of the "over 40's" would be intertested in seeing the Artful Dodger at Leisureworld. Surely only kids and chavs are in to that sort of sh1t I thought the kids were catered for by having the family fun day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 In hindsight I totally agree with you. It just dissappointing that some fans on here are still slagging it off. At least these people did something rather than burying there heads in the sand waiting for everyone else to do something. Ok it wasn't to everone's taste but it was a lot of hard work by a lot of people who love this club and for all the right reasons. I salute them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I went to the day event and thought all the groups that I saw were superb. They all worked their butts off even though there was a crap turn out. I would willingly pay to watch that event again even if it wasn't Saints related. There were different genres of music, something to suit most peoples taste. I must thank the organisors again for a very profesional event. Well done and thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm not slagging anyone who attended or those who went to the trouble of organising. We have, however, shown ourselves as a whole to be a bunch of ingrates who don't know a good thing when they have it, and in a large number of cases aren't prepared to do anything to support it even when there's a chance it might not exist. We should be grateful that SOME people are prepared to put in the effort on behalf of others, rather than just assuming someone else will sort it. I appreciate their efforts at trying to make it work and they should be commended for it - it's as ever far too easy for anonymous people to criticise the people who have actually made an effort whilst doing nothing themselves. Speaking as someone who has already seen a club I supported go bust, maybe I'm a little more aware of the consequences than others. Completely right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I didn't go to the Saints Aid gig, but I don't appreciate being told that I have done nothing to support the club. I've done plenty, thank you very much. There is only so much an 18 year old on minimum wage can do. Should have been right up your street - If old duffers like me, Nick H and KP Turner can turn to an event like this, surely the yoof could turn up. I think it was only 'suggested donation' so even if you had bought a pint you would have helped out some more. Get out and party at every opportunity son because before you know it it will be gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Which is what annoys me so much. It's all very good people organising all manner of things but then they can't expect everyone just to turn up just because they say they are doing their bit and that it is definitely going to save the club. I've gone above and beyond IMO last season and many others have too. To make sarcastic comments and suggest that the fans don't care is below the belt. When we get fantastic turn outs at games and when I see the people at Forest away I know how much people care. What fantastic turn out? one sell out last season to see......... oh yes Man Utd!!!! - where were all the ****ers that wanted tickets to the cup final? Why did n't we sell out Burnley/ Preston/ Qpr/ Derby?? because people could n't be ****ed but are willing to trot out anyold excuse as to why they did n't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I personally didnt think it was to save the club but to show solidarity with it.To show prospective buyers what they were getting.I found it sad that there were more people who found it in them to march against the chairman than actually go to try and save the club.The Saintsaid funday was only £5 and you got a lot of entertainment for that. My little girl though it was the best five pounds ever!.... although I have n't been as dizzy (after going on the tea cups) since granty did me with his step over routine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Should have been right up your street - If old duffers like me, Nick H and KP Turner can turn to an event like this, surely the yoof could turn up. Old duffers?? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Quite simply I disagree and it is an insult to the fans to say that. It's this attitude that I fundamentally disagree with. What other club has had to deal with what we have over the past five years? I think I'm going to organise a sponsored march, all proceeds to SFC. I'm going to advertise it a week before and if only a few people turn up I'm going to turn on the fans and suggest that it is their fault when SFC goes under. It doesn't work like that. What?????? **** me at least ten other clubs maybe more! Leeds as one example, leicester, Wimbledon, luton, Bournemouth, Man City, nearly every ****ing club apart from the big four and Spurs have been through the mill at some time or other..... what a statement that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 (edited) What?????? **** me at least ten other clubs maybe more! Leeds as one example, leicester, Wimbledon, luton, Bournemouth, Man City, nearly every ****ing club apart from the big four and Spurs have been through the mill at some time or other..... what a statement that is!Maybe he is referring to 35 different boards and 63 managers/coaches. Edited 1 June, 2009 by kpturner The figures are made up :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 There are many reasons why people choose not to attend. In all honesty I considered not going a few times this season and I'm not sure I would have done had I already bought a season ticket at the start. In fact, if things had stayed as they were last season except we had got relegated with Lowe and Wilde still there, I think I wouldn't have got a season ticket either. Does that make me less of a fan? Maybe, but then I only have a certain amount of finance and my patience was running thin watching rubbish and the money would perhaps have been better spent elsewhere. Maybe some people have less patience than you or I? Not sure the football was rubbish - more the outcome was poor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Cant imagine too many of the "over 40's" would be intertested in seeing the Artful Dodger at Leisureworld. Surely only kids and chavs are in to that sort of sh1t I thought the kids were catered for by having the family fun day. one of them is 37 this year - at least they answered the call and done there bit! Where was lucy pinder when we needed her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Maybe he is referring to 35 different boards and 63 managers/coaches. Not sure what the guy is referring to to be honest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Age also comes into it. Old people (the over 40's) wouldn't like all that loud music. Actually the thing I was most surprised about was the age of the attendees. The majority seemed to be either small kids or 40+, hardly any 'youth of today'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 a friend whose sons were performing all spurs fans wanted to perform to try and save the club.He said to me 'how can the people of southampton let this die?' i shook my head and was embarrassed to tell him that we were apathetic and perhaps complacent somebody would step in. It was sad to see so few turn out when people who had organised and performed put so much effort into it. At least I met a few faces on here... GKTurner for the first time and remeeting some of the stars from my side in the forum match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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