70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Ah yes....but did we love him;), coupled with KK...oh great times. agreed which is why i will with hold judgement on DMG , UNTIL he has played in a good team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 You really are a wet Fish......FFS, I said that with a smile. You think he's great, I think he's toss.........nick, it's about opinions, who's to say your right and I'm wrong or visa versa. For future reference nick.....who do you compare him with?? do the emotions not show on your computer, did you not see the big smiley thing I put up then? I have never tried to compare player against player, you could never compare MLT with anyone as he is a 1 off. DMG is DMG. Wil he go on and become a great, no i doubt it will he go on and become a good well respected player Yes i believe he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 agreed which is why i will with hold judgement on DMG ' date=' UNTIL he has played in a good team[/quote'] Moran was a very good player but he had Channon KK etc to play alongside, wheras DMG had nobody and then Saga and JE not quite the same. Anyone else remember Tony Funnel, he was superb in our promotion season then LM discarded him surprisingly and he completely disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 One mill is also the sort of price we should have been able to obtain for his Academy peer, Dyer. That is what the Academy programme was supposed to be about. Raising, training and selling at a profit. How Saints messed up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 He is a born goal scorer but does precious little else. Would be happy to keep him if he was really up for the fight, but I rarely see this in him - If he is not 100% up for the fight & not willing to graft week in week out in League 1, we are better off rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 He is a born goal scorer but does precious little else. Would be happy to keep him if he was really up for the fight, but I rarely see this in him - If he is not 100% up for the fight & not willing to graft week in week out in League 1, we are better off rid. He's improved but don't think I'd describe him as a natural born goalscorer, even at the end of last season his conversion rate wasn't brilliant for all of his undoubted progress. I think he'd improved as an all-round athlete. Remember, he made his debut in 2006 so he's been a slow burner but a bit like Kenwyne Jones, we get the development stages and someone may buy an improved product. Can't really see him and Blackstock firing Forest to promotion though. Will be a decent CCC player after another season at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SET Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Hands Snap Off their Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 If he is sold now, I presume the million goes to the creditors and won't help us rebuild for next season one little bit. The Pinnacle deal is not finalised yet, although I suppose they could demand a reduction in the sale price for SLH if MCG leaves now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 If he is sold now, I presume the million goes to the creditors and won't help us rebuild for next season one little bit. The Pinnacle deal is not finalised yet, although I suppose they could demand a reduction in the sale price for SLH if MCG leaves now. I was thinking the same thing. Would the buyer perhaps offer £1m less if he is sold before they complete the deal? Very interesting timing of Forrests part. If we sell him who are we going to attract that is better? League 1 football is not a big draw if you haev any class at all. Mind you if we sold him and we managed to bring in N'Guessan I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 . If we sell him who are we going to attract that is better? League 1 football is not a big draw if you haev any class at all. Mind you if we sold him and we managed to bring in N'Guessan I'd be happy. Already gone to Leicester I thought. Not that their manager is any judge of a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm sure notts county have 25% sell on fee for Mcgoldrick and depends how much money has been offered upfront, with the potential takeover I would demand nearer 2 million for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end of an era2 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Moran was a very good player but he had Channon KK etc to play alongside, wheras DMG had nobody and then Saga and JE not quite the same. Anyone else remember Tony Funnel, he was superb in our promotion season then LM discarded him surprisingly and he completely disappeared. Tony Funnell went to MLS I think,same time as Tom Jenkins. Tom was a bit of a lad, perhaps Funnell was as well, Lawrie may not have had much time for their lifestyle in the First Division.However Tony is still knocking about,think he did an ex-Saints gig at Reading a couple of years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Theyve already bid £2m for Blackstock, are they trying to start another Saints old boys team up there. They've seen it work at Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm a wee bit perplexed as to why more people don't think receiving £1 million for DMG isn't a great deal for us. I think its a great deal for the Saints! I've been to plenty of games this season, and whilst he's scored a lot of goals, he's also missed a lot of opportunities, including several penalties, and I find him incredibly lazy. I think his attitude has always been poor as well. Bite their hand off please Mr Fry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm a wee bit perplexed as to why more people don't think receiving £1 million for DMG isn't a great deal for us. I think its a great deal for the Saints! I've been to plenty of games this season, and whilst he's scored a lot of goals, he's also missed a lot of opportunities, including several penalties, and I find him incredibly lazy. I think his attitude has always been poor as well. Bite their hand off please Mr Fry! Do you think it's good that Mr Fry will give all the money to Barclays and Aviva while we lose a player who could help us get promotion next season? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertfunnyname Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 think he played much better behind a out and out striker and Forest will be looking to do the same with him and Blackstock. Thing is end of last season who wanted to go as was never playing and think his family is in Notts. Its only cos we ditched all our strikers over the summer that he got a game and we saw some of the potential people had been talking about. So in that way over 1M would be good as last year he would have gone for pittance but why not hold onto him for another season and see if he really kicks on with another full season. Esp in League 1 where he could get quite a few and his value would go up as well. Expect he'll want to go though but with the new owners hope we can hold out for closer to 2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Attack Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Personally i think the bloke is absolute Dog! I would bite the arm off anyone offering 1m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Already gone to Leicester I thought. Not that their manager is any judge of a good player. there is interest but no offer on the table yet. Our chances look slim to none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Moran was a very good player but he had Channon KK etc to play alongside, wheras DMG had nobody and then Saga and JE not quite the same. Anyone else remember Tony Funnel, he was superb in our promotion season then LM discarded him surprisingly and he completely disappeared. that was i was trying to say , Moran was good because of who he played alongside. I know he hurt his back but he was no where near as good after he left us. Tony Funnel was a bit player who, agreed , was superb in the promotion season but even you would have scored with the midfield we had supplying the bullets , Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm a wee bit perplexed as to why more people don't think receiving £1 million for DMG isn't a great deal for us. I think its a great deal for the Saints! I've been to plenty of games this season, and whilst he's scored a lot of goals, he's also missed a lot of opportunities, including several penalties, and I find him incredibly lazy. I think his attitude has always been poor as well. Bite their hand off please Mr Fry! I think people have fairly pointed out that Coc of Swindon and Lambert of BR are having higher fees asked of them.DMG is proven to have the ability to score in the CCC at the age of 21. As for missing pens, when we got the penalty against Cardiff where were Saga and and the older players?? They couldnt wait to hand the responsiblity to someone else. Missing a penalty dos not make you a bad player, some are natural penalty takers like MLT but there have been many great players who would never step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 that was i was trying to say , Moran was good because of who he played alongside. I know he hurt his back but he was no where near as good after he left us. Tony Funnel was a bit player who, agreed , was superb in the promotion season but even you would have scored with the midfield we had supplying the bullets , Nick i could score whoever i was playing for, just a shame i was missed.It did nt help that my father encouraged me into playing other sports in my formative years, a schoolmaster when i was 10 or 11 who was something to do with Southampton schools in those days told me I would play for saints.Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm a wee bit perplexed as to why more people don't think receiving £1 million for DMG isn't a great deal for us. I think its a great deal for the Saints! I've been to plenty of games this season, and whilst he's scored a lot of goals, he's also missed a lot of opportunities, including several penalties, and I find him incredibly lazy. I think his attitude has always been poor as well. Bite their hand off please Mr Fry! Because 1 million isn't alot when you give Notts County their 25% sell on fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think people have fairly pointed out that Coc of Swindon and Lambert of BR are having higher fees asked of them.DMG is proven to have the ability to score in the CCC at the age of 21. As for missing pens, when we got the penalty against Cardiff where were Saga and and the older players?? They couldnt wait to hand the responsiblity to someone else. Missing a penalty dos not make you a bad player, some are natural penalty takers like MLT but there have been many great players who would never step up. Ok, perhaps i've been a bit harsh on the penalties - but you have to admit, he has missed several this season. Some of the sitters he's missed have been unforgivable however. He also severely lacks any sort of vision and plays very much with his head down. Time and time again, i've been frustrated by his inability to see a good pass when we've been on the counter attack and he's just held onto the ball, subsequently losing it, and putting the buffers on what could have been a good counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down and Out Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 As we need an out and out golascorer in out side and with DMG having contributed just 14 golas last season....I would use most if not all (new owners permitting) to buy... Beckford from Leeds! Now whether he would come, is naother matter....I would think depends on how the club was sold to him!! ...a bit far fetched I know, but hey better and more positive than what was being discussed this time last week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Because 1 million isn't alot when you give Notts County their 25% sell on fee. Exactly...kind of p1sses over Rupey Baby's claim to re-inventing the Saints Youth System when we did the same as everyone else...poach em from other clubs.... Lallana, Walcott, McGoldrick....hmmmm.. Breathe CS.......haven't mentioned the tw&t for a month or so and I can feel my blood pressure rising...haha wonder if he shoots Old Viggers' ducks down Poopey way???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 As we need an out and out golascorer in out side and with DMG having contributed just 14 golas last season....I would use most if not all (new owners permitting) to buy... Beckford from Leeds! Now whether he would come, is naother matter....I would think depends on how the club was sold to him!! ...a bit far fetched I know, but hey better and more positive than what was being discussed this time last week!!so do you think 800k is going to buy Beckford as a replacement? The trouble is with us the grass is always greener on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I say sell him & spend the money on Adam Le Fondre from Rochdale...as well as strengthen in other areas. And we'd still have some change left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 so do you think 800k is going to buy Beckford as a replacement? The trouble is with us the grass is always greener on the other side. How about James Hayter? Good goalscorer at this level.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Notts County fan on another forum: Well it's been a good week for the men counting the numbers at the Lane, with various financial boosts from players coming in, it may even mean we can sign someone who can score this summer! Firstly, we got a significant 6 figure fee FINALLY from Southampton after about 6 months of waiting due to their financial issues, for an appearance clause in Dave McGoldrick's transfer, also a 5 figure fee from Saints due to a sell-on clause in Leon Best's transfer to Coventry, and now F*rest have bid £1m to Southampton for McGoldrick, which i'd say is pretty likely to go through, with a 25% sell-on clause giving us another £250k. Over £500k altogether probably, good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down and Out Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 so do you think 800k is going to buy Beckford as a replacement? The trouble is with us the grass is always greener on the other side. As I said...just some idle thoughts nothing serious...and I notice that you do tend to take the high ground on most threads (so lighten up mate) :-) !!! I don't know, what the value would be...even thought Dyer is under valued in the scheme of things at £400,000!! Who knows and after the last 60 odd days.....maybe we should all take a step back and now enjoy the ride!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The boy was playing his first full season for us. He scored 14 goaks in the second worst team in the league. He will learn from last season and get better. Some of you lot expect a striker to come out of the box a finished article. I suspect with a MCG we will have one of the best strikers in div 1. We will not get anyone as good as him in, because if they were any better they will b playing in a higher league. IMHO it is an imperative to keep the likes of MGD and co, lets see how they can do when there confidence isn't hot to pieces and they aren't losing each week! Everybody seems to quote some hot shot striker from the lower leagues, but look what Billy Sharp did when he moved up a level, not alot. Or How good Matty Fryatt was in league one, but the previous season hw was woeful in a CCC side. Remember gents the grass is always greener, and we won't be able to attract the players of MgG quality in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The boy was playing his first full season for us. He scored 14 goaks in the second worst team in the league. He will learn from last season and get better. Some of you lot expect a striker to come out of the box a finished article. I suspect with a MCG we will have one of the best strikers in div 1. We will not get anyone as good as him in, because if they were any better they will b playing in a higher league. IMHO it is an imperative to keep the likes of MGD and co, lets see how they can do when there confidence isn't hot to pieces and they aren't losing each week! Everybody seems to quote some hot shot striker from the lower leagues, but look what Billy Sharp did when he moved up a level, not alot. Or How good Matty Fryatt was in league one, but the previous season hw was woeful in a CCC side. Remember gents the grass is always greener, and we won't be able to attract the players of MgG quality in this league. good post IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 As I said...just some idle thoughts nothing serious...and I notice that you do tend to take the high ground on most threads (so lighten up mate) :-) !!! I don't know, what the value would be...even thought Dyer is under valued in the scheme of things at £400,000!! Who knows and after the last 60 odd days.....maybe we should all take a step back and now enjoy the ride!! LOL I take the position I feel strong about on issues of players who are seen as rubbish and fans cant wait to sl## them off.Not pointing at you by the way. DMG is only 21 and scored 14+ goals in his first full season.Yes he missed sitters dont all forwards.He will learn from those and get better, and I want him to get better at our club and in time gain the benifits of him doing so not Notts Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 i could score whoever i was playing for, just a shame i was missed.It did nt help that my father encouraged me into playing other sports in my formative years, a schoolmaster when i was 10 or 11 who was something to do with Southampton schools in those days told me I would play for saints.Lol you will play for saints, my son. but only if you come and look at my puppies. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 you will play for saints, my son. but only if you come and look at my puppies. ;-) yeah and they were sick on me. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I would like DMG to stay as I think he would score a lot of goals for us next season, given the right manager and played in the right position (i.e. not as a lone striker). However, I believe he has a young child in Nottingham so understand his (rumoured/possible) desire to move back there. As Bailey has said earilier in this thread, it would be good to keep him but no player is irreplaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 DMG would be tasty in the 3rd division. Perhaps our new management will be able to persuade him of our newly found ambition. And perhaps the chance to work with mlt vs Billy davies might persuade him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down and Out Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I take the position I feel strong about on issues of players who are seen as rubbish and fans cant wait to sl## them off.Not pointing at you by the way. DMG is only 21 and scored 14+ goals in his first full season.Yes he missed sitters dont all forwards.He will learn from those and get better, and I want him to get better at our club and in time gain the benifits of him doing so not Notts Forest. Don't worry...nothing taken! I agree would rather we keep all our good young players and bring in and keep some experienced players...DMG would benefit from have an out and out big old centre forward to take alot of the workload and leave space for him to do his stuff. He tried to be too precise with those crucially missed pens...but as you say he is yourng and will learn for next time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertfunnyname Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The boy was playing his first full season for us. He scored 14 goaks in the second worst team in the league. He will learn from last season and get better. Some of you lot expect a striker to come out of the box a finished article. I suspect with a MCG we will have one of the best strikers in div 1. We will not get anyone as good as him in, because if they were any better they will b playing in a higher league. IMHO it is an imperative to keep the likes of MGD and co, lets see how they can do when there confidence isn't hot to pieces and they aren't losing each week! Everybody seems to quote some hot shot striker from the lower leagues, but look what Billy Sharp did when he moved up a level, not alot. Or How good Matty Fryatt was in league one, but the previous season hw was woeful in a CCC side. Remember gents the grass is always greener, and we won't be able to attract the players of MgG quality in this league. True, think Freddie Eastwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Tony Funnell went to MLS I think,same time as Tom Jenkins. Tom was a bit of a lad, perhaps Funnell was as well, Lawrie may not have had much time for their lifestyle in the First Division.However Tony is still knocking about,think he did an ex-Saints gig at Reading a couple of years back. Legend had it that Funnell was drummed out of the club after thumping Chris McMenemy who was also on the club's books at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 DMG is a decent player. He will be missed if we sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I say sell him & spend the money on Adam Le Fondre from Rochdale...as well as strengthen in other areas. And we'd still have some change left! Isn't he of Channel Island descent ? Might appeal to MLT. Pittman at Bournemouth is another,who could probably make a step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I will give him a lift on my pushbike if he needs it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 DMG is a decent player. He will be missed if we sell. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilza Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I can't believe, literally cannot believe that some people would be so glad to see him go. Do you know anything about football?!?!?! He was good last season playing for one of the worst sides in the league, with a massive weight on him when playing as the lone striker and still managed to get 10+ goals. That imo is a very good return. 1mill is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 probably same people who slated Kenwyn Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelfas31 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Are we sure that Forest haven't just got him mixed up with Kenwyn? "For Forest, the capture of McGoldrick would provide another powerful physical option in attack for Billy Davies" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/8077131.stm Seems cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 One of the few we should be doing our best to keep hold of. The fact another club wants him should say everything to those doubters about how people in the professional game rate him. Billy Davis isn't a mug that's for sure! This lad will only improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I can appreciate both sides of the argument on here, but let's face it, David McGoldrick is an enigma. Whilst celebrating a goal, he'll have you believe that he would do anything for the club. For the other 89 minutes that he spends waddling around (after all, he seems to have a bit of an odd body shape for a footballer?) he just looks lazy and dis-interested. To sum it up, he's a luxury player. He'll play most of the game on cruise control, but it likely to pop up with a goal. Depending on the makeup of our team next season, we can't really afford someone like that in League One. If you take into consideration the fact that he wants to go back to his hometown, a £1m offer should be a no-brainer for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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