S4INT Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 If Wotte is kept on as manager by the new owners will the fans still support the new set up? As they've saved us I will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff leopard Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 league one ffs. 'league one' sounds a bit flat and dull, surely its time for a re-branding. The Best League in the World…Possibly The Wonder-League The World-Series The Galaxy-Series The Mega-League The Uber-League The Star-Chamber Valhalla Babylon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 'league one' sounds a bit flat and dull, surely its time for a re-branding. The Best League in the World…Possibly The Wonder-League The World-Series The Galaxy-Series The Mega-League The Uber-League The Star-Chamber Valhalla Babylon The slightly better than League div 2 The 'formally known as Division 3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The slightly better than League div 2 The 'formally known as Division 3 ? I still call the leagues 1-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny R Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 And, of course, you need 11 proven Football Artiste's to get out of Div 1 As needs must ......If we play pretty pretty stuff again, we will get nowhere .... ( only downwards of course ) Div 1 is NOT the CCC, in the same way that the CCC is NOT the Prem Both Peterborough and Swansea went up playing 'pretty pretty stuff', I do not understand the mentality of getting 11 cloggers in and playing teams at their own game and that if we do this, we ge promoted! I've seen Watford so many times unde Boothroyd and the football is disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Id be happy for Wotte to continue for this season with a view to makes changes if needed for next season. I think our ambition this season should be to stabalise and count ourselves lucky if we are up near play offs by the end of the season. That said I would welcome WGS back any day of the week. balls to this english manager cak too. There has hardly been a decent english manager for years so I dont see why they are so special. aah a grounded sensible assessment prevails, i agree 100% with your first paragraph, he has only had a year in the english league too.. key word : stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Swansea As a slight aside here, how on earth can a side captained by Garry Monk ever be any good? What happened to him when he left SMS, did he start taking Killer pills or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Whatever happens, are the confidentiality agreements still applicable when it's finalised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treggs23 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 As a slight aside here, how on earth can a side captained by Garry Monk ever be any good? What happened to him when he left SMS, did he start taking Killer pills or something? That's a bit unfair...I always thought Garry was a fairly decent player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 So Rasiak is on a nice wack at least until then. He has already turned down Watford's offer as being too derisory. What's the score with a bloke who says he won't play in L1? Isn't that tantamount to resigning? Just tear up his contract and tell him to "go away". Apart from a few goal hanger's goals here, what has he actually done anywhere else? He's a plank and we should just want to see the back of him as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The slightly better than League div 2 The 'formally known as Division 3 ? Formerly, or do you mean only at dinner parties and PFA dos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What's the score with a bloke who says he won't play in L1? Isn't that tantamount to resigning? Just tear up his contract and tell him to "go away". Apart from a few goal hanger's goals here, what has he actually done anywhere else? He's a plank and we should just want to see the back of him as soon as possible. If we can pay him we should pick him. I don't think he's much of a footballer but he's a proven goalscorer even in the league above, and if we're stuck with the contract and can't get rid anyway, well hell, see if we can get the best out of him. And if he doesn't want to play, yeah, sack him, mid-transfer window he'd probably agree to a mutual termination to get a big signing on fee from a desperate club anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 And, of course, you need 11 proven Football Artiste's to get out of Div 1 As needs must ......If we play pretty pretty stuff again, we will get nowhere .... ( only downwards of course ) Div 1 is NOT the CCC, in the same way that the CCC is NOT the Prem I can never understand this arguement. I mean, if cloggers are better than skilled footballers, why don't lower league teams win the FA Cup every year? The reason, IMHO, is that skill will (nine times out of ten) prevail over cloggers. I do agree that we do need some grit throughout the side, but not hoofing it straight from the 'keeper/CB to the CF all game. And, as for Wotte, his results last season indicated to me that first team coach/manager of a team in an English league is not his place. Very one dimensional and instilled hardly any fight in the players. Paul Tisdale for me, or even someone like Gary Speed as player/(assistant) manager. I really can't see WGS coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What's the score with a bloke who says he won't play in L1? Isn't that tantamount to resigning? Just tear up his contract and tell him to "go away". Apart from a few goal hanger's goals here, what has he actually done anywhere else? He's a plank and we should just want to see the back of him as soon as possible. Hopefully the new Boss will tell him he has broken his contract, and therefore he has sacked himself, if he says he will not play in League 1, but I bet this mercenary will be non-commital for as long as possible whilst his lucrative Saints contract is legally binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I can never understand this arguement. I mean, if cloggers are better than skilled footballers, why don't lower league teams win the FA Cup every year? The reason, IMHO, is that skill will (nine times out of ten) prevail over cloggers. I do agree that we do need some grit throughout the side, but not hoofing it straight from the 'keeper/CB to the CF all game. And, as for Wotte, his results last season indicated to me that first team coach/manager of a team in an English league is not his place. Very one dimensional and instilled hardly any fight in the players. Paul Tisdale for me, or even someone like Gary Speed as player/(assistant) manager. I really can't see WGS coming back. Spot on post Minsk. As was seen at the Forum Match. Cream rises to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Personally I don't think Wotte is the man for the job. Has he been successful so far? It is critical the next manager is capable of meeting the new owner's 5 year plan - and given the backing to complete it. We know what happens when clubs change managers too often. I also don't think we need a director of football for two reasons; 1. We are not big enough to support the extra salary, bonus, etc. 2. We don't need one. Sir Alex doesn't have one and neither did WGS when at SMS. I think this role can cause problems for the manager. Let's have MLT on the board but not active in daily footballing matters - other than free kick and penalty coach (I am serious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Spot on post Minsk. As was seen at the Forum Match. Cream rises to the top. Agreed. How long did you last, again ? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Spot on post Minsk. As was seen at the Forum Match. Cream rises to the top.the only cream your team had was when the ref took it in turns with you post match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 the only cream your team had was when the ref took it in turns with you post match. Was that humour nick:eek:...........you are alive after all!!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 the only cream your team had was when the ref took it in turns with you post match. Nick do you really want to start this up again? Take the defeat on the chin and move on mate. When the DVD is released you should study it closely. Anyway, you were tapping me up the other week! What changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think remembering Matt's reaction on Sky when Wotte was given the job, and the subsequent failure of getting us out the bottom three, the chances of Wotte being manager next season are slim. Managing/Overseeing the Academy - Yes. Manager of first team - No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Regardless of the merits or otherwise of Wotte, I'd rather see a clean sweep as a matter of principle. Rightly or wrongly, Wotte is a link to the previous regime and I want to see a completely fresh start on the senior management front.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 When people say cloggers and grit.. I think obviously it's more important to have skill, as someone else said, but it's more about decision making and mixing it up a bit, and having a plan B, and C, and even D, a lot of the time. Most of the grit needs to be mentally, and will show at places like Hartlepool on a Tuesday night when we're 1 down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Nick do you really want to start this up again? Take the defeat on the chin and move on mate. When the DVD is released you should study it closely. Anyway, you were tapping me up the other week! What changed? It would be convienient if it was brushed under the carpet, no I'm arranging a march on the Hampshire FA to get a public enquiry appalling episode. Yes I was tapping you up but you scorned my advances, and that is unforgivable I will have to get someone else to organise my kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Was that humour nick:eek:...........you are alive after all!!.... I find people laugh whereever I go Ginge........ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think remembering Matt's reaction on Sky when Wotte was given the job, and the subsequent failure of getting us out the bottom three, the chances of Wotte being manager next season are slim. Managing/Overseeing the Academy - Yes. Manager of first team - No. seems about right,imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Niall Quinn, does a good job as chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Matts chairmans comments in the programme would be worth reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Niall Quinn, does a good job as chairman agreed common sense and good advisors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm convinced we can get out of Div 3 playing attractive passing football. If we resort to kick and rush, which so many of you knuckle-draggers seem to advocate, we may as well give up and go home. I remain committed to the beautiful game, Wilko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm convinced we can get out of Div 3 playing attractive passing football. If we resort to kick and rush, which so many of you knuckle-draggers seem to advocate, we may as well give up and go home. I remain committed to the beautiful game, Wilko imo few are advocating kick and rush , but they are suggesting, as all good teams do, irrespective of the division, knowing when to find row z and when to pass. their is a massive difference between effective passing football and the sidewards passing between the back 4 we had last season with no end product. whether we like it or not the majority of goals come from set pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I'm convinced we can get out of Div 3 playing attractive passing football. If we resort to kick and rush, which so many of you knuckle-draggers seem to advocate, we may as well give up and go home. I remain committed to the beautiful game, Wilko As a knuckledragger can you explain when did we exactly play a beautiful passing game in the last 2 seasons? All I had to watch this season was 25 passes to get out of our half and the ball ending up with our keeper!! Why can't we have a mixture of aggression, committed, ballwinning and skillfull players all playing to a game plan? Whats wrong with 2 great big decent centre halves, a ball winner in the middle, 2 pacey wingers a lump of a forward and someone feeding off him? What do you preferr 25 passes and the ball with our keeper or 5 passes and the ball in their net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 a balance of sexy football and cloggers is all we need. too much of one or the other will see us struggle i fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 didn't a certain Paul Tisdale used attractive football to get promoted from a lower division, Swansea from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 didn't a certain Paul Tisdale used attractive football to get promoted from a lower division, Swansea from this. Didnt Burnley get up with playing, agressive, committed football with a game plan? I didn't see too much tippy tap passing in the games I saw them play on TV or at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancelot link Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I've had the luxury of a day off but thought I'd catch up with all the gossip, and I'm quite alarmed/amazed to see people slagging off both TL and MLT before we even know what their involvement is. It seems crazy to me. Christ yesterday we were all delighted by the news that we've finally got someone with long term plans, now some people are slagging off these plans before we even know them! FFS people, would we prefer continued uncertainty and silence? If we're not careful, the attempt at being open with us will bite us on the behind if we start turning on them before they've even started work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What's the score with a bloke who says he won't play in L1? Isn't that tantamount to resigning? Just tear up his contract and tell him to "go away". Apart from a few goal hanger's goals here, what has he actually done anywhere else? He's a plank and we should just want to see the back of him as soon as possible. Quite agree ...IMHO, "Won't play in L1 = Breach of Contract = Goodbye, please shut the door after you " ........ Mind you, he didn't play much for us in the CCC come to think of it SACK THE LAZY GIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Didnt Burnley get up with playing, agressive, committed football with a game plan? I didn't see too much tippy tap passing in the games I saw them play on TV or at SMS. the difference is I am not saying you can only do it one way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 WTF is Tony Lynham on the board? I thought he had a superb property consultancy. Bit strange IMO unless it's in a non-exec, essentially mouthpiece-of-the-owner role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 who do you want on the board? We have tried most other professions! I don't care, its up to the owner and I look forward to forgetting all about boardrooms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 who do you want on the board? We have tried most other professions! I don't care, its up to the owner and I look forward to forgetting all about boardrooms! I'm as enthused as anyone about this but it is quite odd at the moment - no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 boardrooms are made up from all sorts, Millwall have that lady who used to be head of social services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 boardrooms are made up from all sorts, Millwall have that lady who used to be head of social services Nearly - she was Chief Executive of Lambeth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Rabbatts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The slightly better than League div 2 The 'formally known as Division 3 ? (Pedant alert): It is formally known as League One, but it was formerly known as Division 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 'Delisting the plc'........................ What a fantastic day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Nearly - she was Chief Executive of Lambeth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Rabbatts did you really look that up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 did you really look that up! No! I knew it already but wanted to prove it. If I didn't know I wouldn't have known what name to google, would I now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Pedro Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 WTF is Tony Lynham on the board? I thought he had a superb property consultancy. Bit strange IMO unless it's in a non-exec, essentially mouthpiece-of-the-owner role. Yes,spot on. WTF has Tony Lynham ever done for us? Let's get someone from Fulham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Yes,spot on. WTF has Tony Lynham ever done for us? Let's get someone from Fulham! LOL!!ZZ!!Q11111 No, but really... I'm all ears, but until the investor's identity is known it's all a bit mysterious. Why the faith in this chap? No doubt there's a good explanation and I'm not bothered if it takes a while to find out but it's all a bit strange at the moment. I just hope everyone knows what they're doing. Having said that, almost anything is welcome right now and I'm willing to trust MLT (although I wouldn't let him run my nightclub). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 WTF is Tony Lynham on the board? I thought he had a superb property consultancy. Bit strange IMO unless it's in a non-exec, essentially mouthpiece-of-the-owner role. Didn`t take long did it?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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