SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 oh it would be priceless if RL and co had a hand in sending the swiss our way. Cant see that being the case in a million years and would be terified if it was true and it left a door open for him but the 1st look on a few's faces would be pretty funny. lol I just remembered another reason Barclays quoted for Lowe's sacking... was it not that he FAILED to attract investment? You're right Jay, can't see that being the case in a million years... and certainly can't see the new owners daring to admit it even if it was true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGANSAINT Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 your welcome mole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 To be fair robbie I have ripped your posts to shreads on a number of occasions but you just move on and repeat the same old guff. lol It will be nice if we can all move forward supporting something that more of us agree on than the past so many years. Indeed. But my guff of the last year was - sadly - correct. Just one more guff to go, which again merely reflects the majority if I'm honest, Wotte must go for unity and optimism to stand a chance. And your posts at least generated debate instead of dull and pointless slagging - you generate discussion. Swiss ambition will be on the line from tomorrow. If they stick with him we'll have no choice mind. Not quite there yet Jay.... but bloody nearly! Can't wait! Bring on the optimism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What people don't quite get or want to accept is that the club was always going to go into admin. It was innevitable the momment Lowe walked away from the investor meetings and played the "i will save you without investment card". Some people bought it, even reading some of those peoples comments today they still believe it. It must be so difficult for them to admit they were wrong. Like they would rather we did not get a buyer just to proove they were right, to them that is what is more important. It is just a simple case of income vs outcome, if your outcome is higher then your income it is just a matter of time before the balance hits zero and then into the minus. We had been in the minus a long long time and without any financial injection the loss would continue and continue untill the banks put a stop to it. Lowe and the board tried all they could to prevent that by cutting the costs of running the club, they fired a lot of people, some my friends, they shut parts of the stadium, sold players and loaned out the higher earners, brought in a cheap team staff to run the team and so on. As i said before the club was already in admin in everything but name, the difference being the fans were being asked to help the club by paying high ticket prices which in turn helped to pay Lowe and his regimes pay packets, while others were losing their's his was still being paid. So of course people would say going into admin was bad but bad for whom? The people who have been removed or the fans? We were a team with a poor squad and a poor coaching set-up, the performances were truely awful and we deserved to be relegated. At no point last season did i think we deserved to remain in the CCC. Imagine we had not gone into admin and we were relegated with Lowe and his people still in charge for life in League One. Would you feel confident that we would start to go up the table and back into the CCC? Would the people who love the club return to watch the games or continue to stay away? Would the squad of remained the same or more and more sold and people fired to pay the bills? They are questions that will never be answered. The reality is the club needed a big change/event to stop the innevitable from happening. Mismanagement throughout the years had finally brought the club to it's knee's. Was the club almost out of buisness as some on here suggest? The answer is a clear no. At no point was there nobody interested in buying the club. At all times there were people negotiating with Fry. What almost killed the club was not going into admin but going into exclusivity with Pinnacle. They got in 1st. Now a lot of questions would of needed to be answered such as why did Fry agree to it? Who paid the money? Was the bid real? and so on. But they no longer matter. What matters is they did not get in and the group who were serious about buying the club were not put off by it. They were supposedly there from the start. SO if/when the deal goes through we will not have to sell players to pay the bills as we have had to do so many times in the past. We will be able to pay the staff and give them the security of knowing they have a job and will be paid. The fans will have a team to go watch and potentially at the level of which we deserve. The whole darkness that has effected everyone surrounding our club can at long last be extinguished and we can for the first time since 2003 actually go forwards with hope that things will get better, because they cannot and never will get any worse. So it matters not who was wrong or right, who said what. What matters is that we all get behind the new owners and whoever they choose to lead us. The past is the past and will never hurt this club again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What bell-end resurected this ton of garbage ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 lol at people thinking all this admin thing has gone to plan lol at the plebs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Indeed. But my guff of the last year was - sadly - correct. Just one more guff to go, which again merely reflects the majority if I'm honest, Wotte must go for unity and optimism to stand a chance. And your posts at least generated debate instead of dull and pointless slagging - you generate discussion. Swiss ambition will be on the line from tomorrow. If they stick with him we'll have no choice mind. Not quite there yet Jay.... but bloody nearly! Can't wait! Bring on the optimism! Well im not here to fall out with people so I try not to insult. But I have given up pointing out where i think your wrong a long time ago lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What bell-end resurected this ton of garbage ?? Dunno - some tool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning. Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC. does this include all pompey season ticket holders? grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graymalkin33 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What people don't quite get or want to accept is that the club was always going to go into admin. It was innevitable the momment Lowe walked away from the investor meetings and played the "i will save you without investment card". Some people bought it, even reading some of those peoples comments today they still believe it. It must be so difficult for them to admit they were wrong. Like they would rather we did not get a buyer just to proove they were right, to them that is what is more important. It is just a simple case of income vs outcome, if your outcome is higher then your income it is just a matter of time before the balance hits zero and then into the minus. We had been in the minus a long long time and without any financial injection the loss would continue and continue untill the banks put a stop to it.. I stopped reading after you used outcome twice lol First of all i thought it was a clever play on words...... But maybe my expectation was to high there lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Does anyone else just find it harder to support their club when there's relentless moron's like Stanley about? Yes, we love the club, but being associated with people like that really depresses me. What a tedious little *****. It's an internet forum for discussing football, yet a handful of retards like him are obsessed with getting noticed. Well done, you're a small internet forum celebrity. Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Jese, I thought we'd got over all this ](*,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Jese, I thought we'd got over all this ](*,) Sorry, bit bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What people don't quite get or want to accept is that the club was always going to go into admin. It was innevitable the momment Lowe walked away from the investor meetings and played the "i will save you without investment card". Some people bought it, even reading some of those peoples comments today they still believe it. It must be so difficult for them to admit they were wrong. Like they would rather we did not get a buyer just to proove they were right, to them that is what is more important. It is just a simple case of income vs outcome, if your outcome is higher then your income it is just a matter of time before the balance hits zero and then into the minus. We had been in the minus a long long time and without any financial injection the loss would continue and continue untill the banks put a stop to it. Lowe and the board tried all they could to prevent that by cutting the costs of running the club, they fired a lot of people, some my friends, they shut parts of the stadium, sold players and loaned out the higher earners, brought in a cheap team staff to run the team and so on. As i said before the club was already in admin in everything but name, the difference being the fans were being asked to help the club by paying high ticket prices which in turn helped to pay Lowe and his regimes pay packets, while others were losing their's his was still being paid. So of course people would say going into admin was bad but bad for whom? The people who have been removed or the fans? We were a team with a poor squad and a poor coaching set-up, the performances were truely awful and we deserved to be relegated. At no point last season did i think we deserved to remain in the CCC. Imagine we had not gone into admin and we were relegated with Lowe and his people still in charge for life in League One. Would you feel confident that we would start to go up the table and back into the CCC? Would the people who love the club return to watch the games or continue to stay away? Would the squad of remained the same or more and more sold and people fired to pay the bills? They are questions that will never be answered. The reality is the club needed a big change/event to stop the innevitable from happening. Mismanagement throughout the years had finally brought the club to it's knee's. Was the club almost out of buisness as some on here suggest? The answer is a clear no. At no point was there nobody interested in buying the club. At all times there were people negotiating with Fry. What almost killed the club was not going into admin but going into exclusivity with Pinnacle. They got in 1st. Now a lot of questions would of needed to be answered such as why did Fry agree to it? Who paid the money? Was the bid real? and so on. But they no longer matter. What matters is they did not get in and the group who were serious about buying the club were not put off by it. They were supposedly there from the start. SO if/when the deal goes through we will not have to sell players to pay the bills as we have had to do so many times in the past. We will be able to pay the staff and give them the security of knowing they have a job and will be paid. The fans will have a team to go watch and potentially at the level of which we deserve. The whole darkness that has effected everyone surrounding our club can at long last be extinguished and we can for the first time since 2003 actually go forwards with hope that things will get better, because they cannot and never will get any worse. So it matters not who was wrong or right, who said what. What matters is that we all get behind the new owners and whoever they choose to lead us. The past is the past and will never hurt this club again. Fantastic post. Top marks, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 And hopefully for many years to come this club will thrive on the Lowe legacy. Lets all get back to supporting our club at the stadium that Rupert built. Ha ha. Yeah thanks Rupert you looser. :smt039 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 (edited) Another stupid post by Stanley Wake up and smell the friggin coffee stanley. It wasnt the stay away fans that ousted lowe and co, maybe you shuld start banking your benefits with Barclays. Im sure they will be pleased to do your banking for you. **** just realised I need to restore you to my ignore list agree stanley/mole comes aross has a right **** postng nonsence like that.its about time he got behind the club instead of his divisive rubbish.we got so close to loseing our club. Edited 7 July, 2009 by solentstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 agree he comes aross has a right **** postng nonsence like that.its about time he got the club instead of his divise rubbish. Is the Luvvie rattled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Well im not here to fall out with people so I try not to insult. But I have given up pointing out where i think your wrong a long time ago lol ...and I've forgotten where I am wrong as so far I havent been and you and I both seem to agree on Wotte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 [-(Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning. Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.Naughty naughty. Time to draw a line under our recent dark past. Let's all move forward as one and 'shoot the P*mpey sc*m' :smt035 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 [-(Naughty naughty. Time to draw a line under our recent dark past. Let's all move forward as one and 'shoot the P*mpey sc*m' :smt035 **** em. I've had it rammed down my throat how wrong i was for months and months, but hey let's move on. I'm chuffed to bit's everything has panned out how I envisaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 **** em. I've had it rammed down my throat how wrong i was for months and months, but hey let's move on. I'm chuffed to bit's everything has panned out how I envisaged. You were never wrong Mole. Most of us know this was spot on and it would indeed work out like this. Someof us even said this couldve happened 1-2 years ago before we had kids, Dutch, Lowe, Administration and relegation. Some can't accept being wrong. But hey, stick by your guns and be vindicated or admit you're wrong and apologise. Always played that game here. Not apologised much this year... and nor should you. Well read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 You were never wrong Mole. Most of us know this was spot on and it would indeed work out like this. Someof us even said this couldve happened 1-2 years ago before we had kids, Dutch, Lowe, Administration and relegation. Some can't accept being wrong. But hey, stick by your guns and be vindicated or admit you're wrong and apologise. Always played that game here. Not apologised much this year... and nor should you. Well read. Eagles fly alone, but sheep flock together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Eagles fly alone, but sheep flock together. Sort of, but in this case the sheep were generally correct! Vast majority agree with you Mole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 **** em. I've had it rammed down my throat how wrong i was for months and months, but hey let's move on. I'm chuffed to bit's everything has panned out how I envisaged. I do tend to agree with you stanley, but.. I appreciate the sentiments if... as i said before the big 'bullsh!t' oh sorry i mean boycott actually had any affect on an already doomed club ?? All it did was reduced moral of players and provided an excuse for those that could not afford it. In truth the real reason was the credit crunch, reducing st mary's revenue streams and stripping the money from the fans pockets so that they could not afford to go. There was no big boycott, a few of you cowardly, hiding behind an excuse, no fan ****s maybe did boycott, but only a few. So congrats, and hopefully you will all be last on the list for new ST's, leave the seats for real fans. Admin i will agree has 'hopefully' ended well, however we nearly died !! But would i want to go down that road again ?? No, i will agree though, thank **** we are free from that cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What people don't quite get or want to accept is that the club was always going to go into admin. It was innevitable the momment Lowe walked away from the investor meetings and played the "i will save you without investment card". Some people bought it, even reading some of those peoples comments today they still believe it. It must be so difficult for them to admit they were wrong. Like they would rather we did not get a buyer just to proove they were right, to them that is what is more important. It is just a simple case of income vs outcome, if your outcome is higher then your income it is just a matter of time before the balance hits zero and then into the minus. We had been in the minus a long long time and without any financial injection the loss would continue and continue untill the banks put a stop to it. Lowe and the board tried all they could to prevent that by cutting the costs of running the club, they fired a lot of people, some my friends, they shut parts of the stadium, sold players and loaned out the higher earners, brought in a cheap team staff to run the team and so on. As i said before the club was already in admin in everything but name, the difference being the fans were being asked to help the club by paying high ticket prices which in turn helped to pay Lowe and his regimes pay packets, while others were losing their's his was still being paid. So of course people would say going into admin was bad but bad for whom? The people who have been removed or the fans? We were a team with a poor squad and a poor coaching set-up, the performances were truely awful and we deserved to be relegated. At no point last season did i think we deserved to remain in the CCC. Imagine we had not gone into admin and we were relegated with Lowe and his people still in charge for life in League One. Would you feel confident that we would start to go up the table and back into the CCC? Would the people who love the club return to watch the games or continue to stay away? Would the squad of remained the same or more and more sold and people fired to pay the bills? They are questions that will never be answered. The reality is the club needed a big change/event to stop the innevitable from happening. Mismanagement throughout the years had finally brought the club to it's knee's. Was the club almost out of buisness as some on here suggest? The answer is a clear no. At no point was there nobody interested in buying the club. At all times there were people negotiating with Fry. What almost killed the club was not going into admin but going into exclusivity with Pinnacle. They got in 1st. Now a lot of questions would of needed to be answered such as why did Fry agree to it? Who paid the money? Was the bid real? and so on. But they no longer matter. What matters is they did not get in and the group who were serious about buying the club were not put off by it. They were supposedly there from the start. SO if/when the deal goes through we will not have to sell players to pay the bills as we have had to do so many times in the past. We will be able to pay the staff and give them the security of knowing they have a job and will be paid. The fans will have a team to go watch and potentially at the level of which we deserve. The whole darkness that has effected everyone surrounding our club can at long last be extinguished and we can for the first time since 2003 actually go forwards with hope that things will get better, because they cannot and never will get any worse. So it matters not who was wrong or right, who said what. What matters is that we all get behind the new owners and whoever they choose to lead us. The past is the past and will never hurt this club again. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning. Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC. Cheers! Just shows the power that fans can wield if they are motivated enough. Fingers crossed this is the beginning of something good at the club for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Is the Luvvie rattled?are you talking about yourself again stanley 76 mole or whatever you call yourself nowdays, oh whos the other guy who keeps changing his name oh its sundance. you both got a lot in commen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 So congrats, and hopefully you will all be last on the list for new ST's, leave the seats for real fans. But what is a real fan? Reality is some are dedicated - 13000 or so at SMS this year. Thick and thin. 18000 didnt go as Lowe was there, credit crunch, Wotte and JP were crap, the team were useless, fickle? Yeah.... red and white? Yes. Saints fan is a Saints fan. Reality is if your team is **** and losing, club is badly run and you're uninspired by the manager even those who fill the stadium wont come... let alone the million or so who say they like Saints but have never done anything other than look out for their score in the media. Fan is a fan regardless of dedication. More come if we're well run and winning. But put losers in charge and we lose... and dont go. This is the real world. So, lets hope the Swiss can inspire some optimism and fans to go above the 13000 diehards. That may mean employing some winners... from middle management to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 :cool:good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 But what is a real fan? Reality is some are dedicated - 13000 or so at SMS this year. Thick and thin. 18000 didnt go as Lowe was there, credit crunch, Wotte and JP were crap, the team were useless, fickle? Yeah.... red and white? Yes. Saints fan is a Saints fan. Reality is if your team is **** and losing, club is badly run and you're uninspired by the manager even those who fill the stadium wont come... let alone the million or so who say they like Saints but have never done anything other than look out for their score in the media. Fan is a fan regardless of dedication. More come if we're well run and winning. But put losers in charge and we lose... and dont go. This is the real world. So, lets hope the Swiss can inspire some optimism and fans to go above the 13000 diehards. That may mean employing some winners... from middle management to the bench. Cheers, you basically backed up what i was saying. There is no definition, but in my eyes i real fan tends not to flee a sinking ship and hide behind ******** morals, it was Lowes fault, along with EVERYONE else involved, there was no boycott, it did nothing, stop banging on about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 So congrats, and hopefully you will all be last on the list for new ST's, leave the seats for real fans. This isn't a ****ing contest but i've probably been to more games (home and away) than you have over the years. No i won't to be joining the uber fan elite in owning a ST, but i'll go back to going when i can both home and away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Cheers! Just shows the power that fans can wield if they are motivated enough. Fingers crossed this is the beginning of something good at the club for a change. There is a degree of truth in this statement. Barclays pulled the rug from under Lowe because of the power of the fans (whether they boycotted for Lowe or not). Also Lowe left the first time because of the fans starting to turn on the pressure from banners to air ads. The major problem came with the leadership of the fan base who unfortaunately had been very careful to criticise Lowe and others. Had we had people who cared for the Club more than their privileged positions with the boardmembers who knows? Perhaps we might still be in the CCC or even the Premiership? I thought Chorley was as mad as a fish but he had the courage to speak out unlike some, some who should have. Still whats done is done. It will be time to form a strong fans group after this takeover goes through who are prepared to take on the owners if needed. The reason? The plc was a terrible blood sucking system to run a club but it allowed Lowe and others to be openly quizzed at meetings. Our new owners may have more luxuries. CONSTRCUTIVE fans and leadership will be necessary to ensure we all go forward together IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 This isn't a ****ing contest but i've probably been to more games (home and away) than you have over the years. No i won't to be joining the uber fan elite in owning a ST, but i'll go back to going when i can both home and away. Not saying it is a **** waving compo, and fair play, you probably will beat me, i can't afford to go away so have never really travelled away, and have not been able to pay for a season ticket since our FA Final year, but i have done my best. All i was saying is i would never turn my back on the club i love, C*nt in charge or not, it's my club and always will be, my point was, the boycott did sod all, yes i agree, the removal of Lowe and how admin eventually facilitated the new takeover is a pheonix from the flames but we walked a tightrope. So to all those stay at home fans that got slagged off, the ones that went to Manure for example, if they claimed to be boycotting they would immediately claim your gratitude ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 are you talking about yourself again stanley 76 mole or whatever you call yourself nowdays, oh whos the other guy who keeps changing his name oh its sundance. you both got a lot in commen. To explain. I had a different name on another forum - shock horror. When this site first started i couldn't be arsed to pay the £5 so registered 5 different logins to get round paying - shock horror. Boj spotted this and left me with stanley which i then asked to be changed to the name i used to use on here. Hardly a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 All i was saying is i would never turn my back on the club i love, C*nt in charge or not, it's my club and always will be, my point was, the boycott did sod all, yes i agree, the removal of Lowe and how admin eventually facilitated the new takeover is a pheonix from the flames but we walked a tightrope. Boycotting wasn't turning your back on the club, it was supporting the club in it's hour of need. Administration has been inevitable for some time and by boycotting the process was accelerated. If we'd have got 25,000 gates last season Lowe would still be at the club and we'd be facing life in L1 with him still here slowly sapping the life out of us before we eventually went into admin anyway. Thanks to the fans not attending (either through boycotting or for other reasons) we entered admin this summer and here we are like a phoenix about rise from the ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Boycotting wasn't turning your back on the club, it was supporting the club in it's hour of need. Administration has been inevitable for some time and by boycotting the process was accelerated. If we'd have got 25,000 gates last season Lowe would still be at the club and we'd be facing life in L1 with him still here slowly sapping the life out of us before we eventually went into admin anyway. Thanks to the fans not attending (either through boycotting or for other reasons) we entered admin this summer and here we are like a phoenix about rise from the ashes. Agreed, but with the sh!t football and the fact that we are in a worldwide financial meltdown, thats what removed the fans, thats what removed the funds, thats what made barclays crap themselves, it would have happened anyway, the fans should have been there at the clubs time of need. Hind sight is a wonderful thing, how very different the response on this thread would have been if we had died like TL's nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 the fans should have been there at the clubs time of need. You're missing the point. The fans were there at the clubs time of need, but they weren't putting money through the turnstiles to prop up the Lowe regime. They were boycotting to bring the regime crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning. Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC. What a load of amusing twaddle you speak, you mentalist pecker head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 What a load of amusing twaddle you speak, you mentalist pecker head. As ever ickle johnnypoopoopants (such a funny giggly choice of name) can't construct an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 You're missing the point. The fans were there at the clubs time of need, but they weren't putting money through the turnstiles to prop up the Lowe regime. They were boycotting to bring the regime crashing down. Maybe, i am going to call a close on this arguement, cos i can't be arsed any more, opinions are what they are, just opinions. But in mine, it would have happened anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Maybe, i am going to call a close on this arguement, cos i can't be arsed any more, opinions are what they are, just opinions. But in mine, it would have happened anyway Maybe, but i'm proud i did my bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Maybe, but i'm proud i did my bit. Well, i am not one to stand in the way of peoples proudness. Today i managed a **** whilst watching Jacko's funeral........... pretty good going i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 As ever ickle johnnypoopoopants (such a funny giggly choice of name) can't construct an argument. Interestingly you answer using poopoopants and acuse me of not being able to construct an argument. My only argument is this. Yes, you may well have been right and administration may well lead us into the promised land but lets be honest, it could have also finished us off. Had it happened not in the worst economic downturn for years then maybe people would have had more confidence in your assured done deal and simplified attitude that all was going to be well. It's not even as if the deal is yet done, though it looks a formality. Take a breath and realise how many people looked at us and then turned away for whatever reason before you tell the world how right you were. Some bloke with more money than most has decided to have a punt at the 11th hour. It hardly proves your theory of takeover to have been a mere formality. That said, if it goes through I would gladly buy you a Sprite and Beano comic to keep you quiet at the Millwall game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 You're missing the point. The fans were there at the clubs time of need, but they weren't putting money through the turnstiles to prop up the Lowe regime. They were boycotting to bring the regime crashing down. It is interesting that attendances increased after Lowe was forced to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 That said, if it goes through I would gladly buy you a Sprite and Beano comic to keep you quiet at the Millwall game. A generous offer. I look forward to taking you up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I suspect that there were no more than a few hundred stay-aways on the Lowe issue (but many more owing to our parlous footballing performance - particularly at St. Mary's) I genuinely respected the decision by some to boycott matches (although I didn't agree with it), but it's vainglorious to say it was the root cause of us being taken over by a Swiss billionaire. Like most self-congratulatory theories, the impossibility of disproving it will give its proponents much delusional glee for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 You're missing the point. The fans were there at the clubs time of need, but they weren't putting money through the turnstiles to prop up the Lowe regime. They were boycotting to bring the regime crashing down. I think you'll find the fans were there when we played Man United in the cup. There was no Lowe out boycott beyond a couple of hundred people and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 The deal is now signed. Shall we call a truce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Eagles fly alone, but sheep flock together. I think you'll find it's Nobby No-mates that sits and sulks alone & fans support their team together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I think you'll find the fans were there when we played Man United in the cup. There was no Lowe out boycott beyond a couple of hundred people and you know it. This is the truth. People stayed away because the product was very poor and a waste of hard earned cash in a time of recession. To turn the drop in attendances into some concerted Anti-Lowe crusade is cyber-warriordome at its most crass. Market forces drove Lowe out, not Stanley/Mole and the rest of his "warrior band". They could not produce a product that people wanted to buy. Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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