A big thankyou to those who boycotted

[Mole]

Absolute comedy genius - ever thought about running for election, you'd be perfect.

 

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.

[kpturner]

**** ! Of course it was the stayaway fans that got rid of lowe and wilde. Do your sums and yes no one really wanted administation but it has happened and we have to deal with it, sometimes you have to take a step back to go forward .I for one cant wait for the new season to start with a new manager and owners , with no more politics and petty ******** that has tarnished this great club in the past . COYR

1+1=2, 1+2=3, 1+3=4,.......have I lost you yet?

[SET]

@Stanley

 

I know a bloke who works 4on/4off, huge chelsea fan.

 

He's not missed a single chelsea match in about 20 years.

 

So no, your working pattern is not a good enough excuse, i'm sure you'd get around the issue if we were a premier league team.

[Mole]

@Stanley

 

I know a bloke who works 4on/4off, huge chelsea fan.

 

He's not missed a single chelsea match in about 20 years.

 

So no, your working pattern is not a good enough excuse, i'm sure you'd get around the issue if we were a premier league team.

 

With respect to your mate, i have no desire to become an anorak. I will take days off to attend some games, but i'll be ****ed if i'm going to sacrifice my 2 weeks in the sun and use all my accrued holidays so i can attend every match.

[grammy]

What a complete ****! Reckon youve been in the sun too much this weekend!

[SET]

With respect to your mate, i have no desire to become an anorak. I will take days off to attend some games, but i'll be ****ed if i'm going to sacrifice my 2 weeks in the sun and use all my accrued holidays so i can attend every match.

 

from what i remember working a 4on/4off

 

you'd only need to use about 12 days of holiday a year to get every saturday off.

[Mole]

from what i remember working a 4on/4off

 

you'd only need to use about 12 days of holiday a year to get every saturday off.

 

And i accrue 17 days (12 hour days) per annum plus a few lieu days i choose to take for bank holidays. Also not every game is on a saturday. Saturdays are also double bubble so not too keen to take them off! Like i've said i'll go when i can.

[miserableoldgit]

I agree with you, but the reduced attendances accelerated the process. I believe that without the boycott we'd be facing the prospect of beginning next season in L1 with Lowe and Wilde clinging to power.

THERE WAS NO "BOYCOTT!" People stayed away because "the product" was poor and they didn`t want to throw good money after bad. The amount that didn`t go purely because Lowe was there would fit in a phone box. Don`t make it sound like some great master plan.

[Gingeletiss]

THERE WAS NO "BOYCOTT!" People stayed away because "the product" was poor and they didn`t want to throw good money after bad. The amount that didn`t go purely because Lowe was there would fit in a phone box. Don`t make it sound like some great master plan.

 

Like some on here, you forgot the IMO..............you say that like it was fact, and we know that facts arn't aloud on here..

[miserableoldgit]

**** ! Of course it was the stayaway fans that got rid of lowe and wilde. Do your sums and yes no one really wanted administation but it has happened and we have to deal with it, sometimes you have to take a step back to go forward .I for one cant wait for the new season to start with a new manager and owners , with no more politics and petty ******** that has tarnished this great club in the past . COYR

It was reduced revenues from lower crowds that led to the problems not some concerted "boycott" campaign from anti-Lowes. How many other "businesses" are going through the same thing at the moment?

[Mole]

THERE WAS NO "BOYCOTT!" People stayed away because "the product" was poor and they didn`t want to throw good money after bad. The amount that didn`t go purely because Lowe was there would fit in a phone box. Don`t make it sound like some great master plan.

 

I disagree. Lowe presence created a tangible feelbad factor that had a huge impact upon many fans desire to attend. Equally the return of Le Tissier (in whatever capacity it may be) will create a feelgood factor that will translate into more fans wanting to go.

[miserableoldgit]

Like some on here, you forgot the IMO..............you say that like it was fact, and we know that facts arn't aloud on here..

Like Stanley, I am always right!

[kpturner]

Like some on here, you forgot the IMO..............you say that like it was fact, and we know that facts arn't aloud on here..

Correct - in fact they are very quiet.

[Wes Tender]

THERE WAS NO "BOYCOTT!" People stayed away because "the product" was poor and they didn`t want to throw good money after bad. The amount that didn`t go purely because Lowe was there would fit in a phone box. Don`t make it sound like some great master plan.

 

I'm sure that there was a boycott, although many who adopted that position might not have come on here and broadcasted the fact. Therefore it is difficult to assess either way, but it will be interesting to see whether the number of STs increases over last season or whether matchday attendances increase too. If that does come to pass, it will be instructive, as we are in a lower division, so numbers would be expected to fall.

[Redondo Saint]

And i accrue 17 days (12 hour days) per annum plus a few lieu days i choose to take for bank holidays. Also not every game is on a saturday. Saturdays are also double bubble so not too keen to take them off! Like i've said i'll go when i can.

 

me thinks you are a major bullshutter.

 

most 4 on 4 off shifts don't differentiate between weekends and weeks. Also, by elimination you would get some Saturdays off without taking holiday.

 

Welcome to my ignore list.

[miserableoldgit]

I disagree. Lowe presence created a tangible feelbad factor that had a huge impact upon many fans desire to attend. Equally the return of Le Tissier (in whatever capacity it may be) will create a feelgood factor that will translate into more fans wanting to go.

I didn`t expect you to agree, but in this case YOU are wrong. A handful of load-mouths on here ranted and raved that they "wouldn`t set foot in SMS whilst Lowe is there". That is not a boycott. Yes, generally Lowe and Wilde were unpoplular (understatement I know) but to suggest that thousands stayed away purely because they were in charge is naive and simplistic.

ROFL

Edited 1 June, 2009 by miserableoldgit

[Wade Garrett]

I'm sure that there was a boycott, although many who adopted that position might not have come on here and broadcasted the fact. Therefore it is difficult to assess either way, but it will be interesting to see whether the number of STs increases over last season or whether matchday attendances increase too. If that does come to pass, it will be instructive, as we are in a lower division, so numbers would be expected to fall.

 

 

I definitely stopped going because of Rupert. I am sure our average attendance next season will be higher than this one.

[Mole]

me thinks you are a major bullshutter.

 

most 4 on 4 off shifts don't differentiate between weekends and weeks. Also, by elimination you would get some Saturdays off without taking holiday.

 

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

**** you. I get paid time and a1/2 for saturday mornings, double for saturday nights, double for sunday mornings and nights.

 

Why would i want to lie you ****?

[Mole]

I didn`t expect you to agree, but in this case YOU are wrong. A handful of load-mouths on here ranted and raved that they "wouldn`t set foot in SMS whilst Lowe is there". That is not a boycott. Yes, generally Lowe and Wilde were unpoplular (understatement I know) but to suggest that thousands stayed away purely because they were in charge is naive and simplistic.

 

ROFL.

[miserableoldgit]

I'm sure that there was a boycott, although many who adopted that position might not have come on here and broadcasted the fact. Therefore it is difficult to assess either way, but it will be interesting to see whether the number of STs increases over last season or whether matchday attendances increase too. If that does come to pass, it will be instructive, as we are in a lower division, so numbers would be expected to fall.

Not sure that increased ST sales will be that much evidence of an anti-Lowe stance. There is great high ATM due to the (prospective) take-over and the MLT involvement, after the "dark" years and that wave of optimism should translate into good ST sales.

[miserableoldgit]

I didn`t expect you to agree, but in this case YOU are wrong. A handful of load-mouths on here ranted and raved that they "wouldn`t set foot in SMS whilst Lowe is there". That is not a boycott. Yes, generally Lowe and Wilde were unpoplular (understatement I know) but to suggest that thousands stayed away purely because they were in charge is naive and simplistic.

ROFL

[Ewell]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

I am sure you would suck yourself off if you could. After all this post is just smacks of Stanley self gratification to me!

[View From The Top]

I definitely stopped going because of Rupert.

 

Same here. Friends did the same.

 

Sounds like a boycott to me.

[70's Mike]

Round and round you all go, makes me dizzy

 

one thing is coming clear is that those who said they boycotted because of lowe would not have gone anyway and some are only going now and again in the future

 

Strange

[brmbrm]

THERE WAS NO "BOYCOTT!" People stayed away because "the product" was poor and they didn`t want to throw good money after bad.

 

Sorry, wrong. I have held STs on and off for years, when i didn't it was because I would miss a lot of games through work, but up until last season i went to over 75% home games and a few away.

 

Last season i thought "sod this - not going to shove more dosh down Lowe's trousers". Yes, the product was ****** poor, but its been ****** poor for 5 years or more. For me Lowe was the last straw.

 

And will i get a ST next year? Very likely (price depending).

[kpturner]

Same here. Friends did the same.

 

Sounds like a boycott to me.

Crikey - sure does! There must be at least 5 of you now. Sounds to me like the local "Home for the bewildered" is having an outing to the local Internet Cafe today. They are all sat there sucking coffee through straws and posting away feverishly in support of this wind up from Stanley.

[Mole]

Crikey - sure does! There must be at least 5 of you now. Sounds to me like the local "Home for the bewildered" is having an outing to the local Internet Cafe today. They are all sat there sucking coffee through straws and posting away feverishly in support of this wind up from Stanley.

 

This isn't a wind-up. It's the truth. The boycott made sure that lowe and Wilde couldn't cling to power. It was the final nail in Lowe and Wildes coffin and is the reason why Saints are now on the eve of a bright new dawn.

[Micky]

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.

 

You are absolutely correct Stanley - the truth is indeed incontrovertible. But what is the truth?

 

The 5 thousand (spurious figure, plucked from thin air) of boycotters (was there actually a recognised boycotte) have saved the club by not attending and thereby putting us into administration.

 

a. Were there 5000 'boycotters'?

 

b. Was there even any recognised boycotte?

 

b. Are we saying that those that did attend games should not be thanked - because they gave their support to the club in dire times?

 

The truth Stanley, what is the truth - who knows. Mind you - you carry on lording it with stupid threads that are a kick in the teeth to fans that went and supported. Claim the moral high ground if it gives you a hard on - but please spare us the sermons.

 

Are we any nearer the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth or are we merely listening to some raving lunatic that posesses more ego than brain?

[kpturner]

This isn't a wind-up. It's the truth. The boycott made sure that lowe and Wilde couldn't cling to power. It was the final nail in Lowe and Wildes coffin and is the reason why Saints are now on the eve of a bright new dawn.

Come on - I can see you now (in my minds eye) laughing as you are keying this stuff in. You've got a little pad next to your screen and you are ticking it off every time somebody bites one way or the other. Admit it - no sane person would really believe that this was all some sort of master plan concocted by the masses. Next you'll be saying that you all communicated your ongoing strategy by telepathy.

[Mole]

Come on - I can see you now in my minds eye ****ing yourself laughing as you are keying this stuff in. You've got a little pad next to you screen and you are ticking it off every time somebody bites one way or the other. Admit it - no sane person would really believe that this was all some sort of master plan concocted by the masses. Next you'll be saying that you all communicated your ongoing strategy by telepathy.

 

It was how I envisaged events would pan out. Others will testify that i've been hoping for admin for a long time and was adament it would herald a new dawn. I will soon be proved right.

[kpturner]

It was how I envisaged events would pan out. Others will testify that i've been hoping for admin for a long time and was adament it would herald a new dawn. I will soon be proved right.

:smt043 yeah OK, whatever you say. By the way, can you let me know if we will appeal this 10 point deduction and also I really need to know what the outcome will be. I don't want to waste any money betting on a play-off spot until I know for sure.

[Mole]

:smt043 yeah OK, whatever you say.

 

I do say. It's a fact.

[John Smith]

Same here. Friends did the same.

 

Sounds like a boycott to me.

 

I stopped going because of Rupert. Had my ST application and ready to hand in, then got a whiff that 'he' was coming back. Chose not to go purely because of this one factor.

 

Would also like to say, that the reason I thought Lowe would be such a bad idea was because he would make poor decisions, we'd get relegated and ultimately, admin.

 

I was almost right, just got the events round the wrong way.

 

We are where we are, not because I stopped going, but because Lowe was incompetent!

[kpturner]

We are where we are, not because I stopped going, but because Lowe was incompetent!

Nothing to do with the board put together by Wilde (post Lowe) borrowing £6m (sic) we could not repay then?

[miserableoldgit]

Does this mean that because I bought my ST and went to every game, I am some sort of traitor? Come on Stanley. How do you describe people who have done this?

[miserableoldgit]

I stopped going because of Rupert. Had my ST application and ready to hand in, then got a whiff that 'he' was coming back. Chose not to go purely because of this one factor.

 

Would also like to say, that the reason I thought Lowe would be such a bad idea was because he would make poor decisions, we'd get relegated and ultimately, admin.

 

I was almost right, just got the events round the wrong way.

 

We are where we are, not because I stopped going, but because Lowe was incompetent!

Well good for you. Obviously a man of principle. But I still maintain that you were in the minority as far as as the "stay-aways" are concerned. Most stayed away because the team were crap.

[Mole]

Does this mean that because I bought my ST and went to every game, I am some sort of traitor? Come on Stanley. How do you describe people who have done this?

 

I respect your decision.

[John Smith]

Nothing to do with the board put together by Wilde (post Lowe) borrowing £6m (sic) we could not repay then?

 

Nope, I blame the man who put us in the CCC by changing managers too many times, buying too many average players, controlling too much of the shares, not selling, not bringing in investment over 10 years plus, never putting his hand in his pocket, unless it was Saints pocket to buy more shares. Causing divide in the board, sitting in the background until he could smell the chance to work part time for 100k a week (since when was 2 days a week!), getting into bed with the man you say was the cause of the real problem, turning a blind eye to the protests, repeating his managerial debacle and eventually causing the fall from the CCC to League 1. That's not to mention Hoddle, SCW, Wigley, Saha, ets, etc, etc, etc.

 

I feel sorry for the people that went this season, to have to sit and watch the men against boys week in week out, must have been very frustrating! I couldn't go and watch, it would've hurt too much! So, whereas I feel sorry for those ST holders that carried on going regardless, I also have respect, a really tough, tough season.

 

Let's hope for a better one this season, we need a bit of pride restored, it's taken too much of a battering lately, being a Saints fan!

[kpturner]

Nope, I blame the man who put us in the CCC by changing managers too many times, buying too many average players, controlling too much of the shares, not selling, not bringing in investment over 10 years plus, never putting his hand in his pocket, unless it was Saints pocket to buy more shares. Causing divide in the board, sitting in the background until he could smell the chance to work part time for 100k a week (since when was 2 days a week!), getting into bed with the man you say was the cause of the real problem, turning a blind eye to the protests, repeating his managerial debacle and eventually causing the fall from the CCC to League 1. That's not to mention Hoddle, SCW, Wigley, Saha, ets, etc, etc, etc.

 

I feel sorry for the people that went this season, to have to sit and watch the men against boys week in week out, must have been very frustrating! I couldn't go and watch, it would've hurt too much! So, whereas I feel sorry for those ST holders that carried on going regardless, I also have respect, a really tough, tough season.

 

Let's hope for a better one this season, we need a bit of pride restored, it's taken too much of a battering lately, being a Saints fan!

Don't get me wrong - I believe he made some terrible decisions that contributed to our relegation from the Prem, but then he was ousted and replaced by a set of clowns who made an even bigger ****-up - wage bill 80% of costs FFS!. He then returned and compounded matters with this Dutch master plan when we should have kept Pearson (with a wage reduction). Despite this, I kept my ticket and kept watching the dross because if I had done otherwise I would have to add myself to the list of idiots who sank this club still further into the ****. I have no problem with people who stopped going because they could not justify paying to watch crap. I do have a problem with people who could afford to go but refused maintain their financial support to our ailing club just because of who the current Chairman was. Edited 1 June, 2009 by kpturner

[Windmill Arm 2]

I take it you will be attanding again after your long anti Burley/Lowe stance

 

How could I ever stand shoulder to shoulder with such fantastic uber fans such as yourself, it just wouldn't be right would it?

 

I tell you what warwick, i'll support saints in the manner I see fit, and you do the same, everyones happy!.

[saintwarwick]

How could I ever stand shoulder to shoulder with such fantastic uber fans such as yourself, it just wouldn't be right would it?

 

I tell you what warwick, i'll support saints in the manner I see fit, and you do the same, everyones happy!.

 

So what you say and do are two different things then

[Saint in Paradise]

Hang on everyone, Saints are not officially saved yet it could still all go wrong.

[kpturner]

Hang on everyone, Saints are not officially saved yet it could still all go wrong.

Well if it does you can be 100% sure that Stanley will claim that he predicted that too. I am, of course, assuming that his threads/posts on the subject don't get deleted like his latest wheeze did.

[um pahars]

I have no problem with people who stopped going because they could not justify paying to watch crap.

 

I don't think anyone (apart from the resident troll) has too much of a problem with people not being able to justify spending their hard earned money on total rubbish.

 

Beyond the die hards you need a good reason to attract the next tranche of supporters and last season we failed to do that.

 

Everyone supports the Club in their own way and I don't think it is right for anyone to judge whether that way is right or wrong, as ultimatley it's right for them.

 

I do have a problem with people who could afford to go but refused maintain their financial support to our ailing club just because of who the current Chairman was.

 

But can't you see that they also believed that what they were doing was in the best long term interests of the Club???

 

I'm not going into whether they were right or wrong to hold that view, (as ultimately they felt they had to do what they did), or how many it involved, but I find it hard to understand why you can't accept they had every right to hold that view.

[hypochondriac]

Well done mods for deleting Stanley's other Troll thread. Good job.

[Mole]

Well done mods for deleting Stanley's other Troll thread. Good job.

 

A thread asking the new owners to make provisions for smokers was really trolling wasn't it.

 

 

But hey any chance to brown nose for Hypo.

[hypochondriac]

A thread asking the new owners to make provisions for smokers was really trolling wasn't it.

 

 

But hey any chance to brown nose for Hypo.

 

Clearly the mods thought otherwise...

[mynameisthehulk]

Well done mods for deleting Stanley's other Troll thread. Good job.

 

 

This one could do with being locked too, utter utter nonsense.

[hypochondriac]

This one could do with being locked too, utter utter nonsense.

 

I agree. Hopefully they will.

[Mole]

Clearly the mods thought otherwise...

 

I doubt they'll fall for your creeping though.

 

Tony Lynam would be well advised to not be taken in by you either.