Deppo Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 ...is struggling against Soderling. Would like to see him finally lose at the French Open. His dominance has started to bore me. I'd like to see Federer equal Sampras and eventually surpass his Grand Slam total. If Nadal loses then the draw would be less daunting for Murray, who I think lacks belief against the top two in the Grand Slam tournaments.
Gully Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 For Federer to really cement himself as the best ever he'd probably have to beat Nadal when winning the French IMO.
maxi_sopez Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 get in put a bit of money on soderling when he broke in the 3rd, happy days
Dicko Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 get in put a bit of money on soderling when he broke in the 3rd, happy days I noticed on Betfair somebody had £20000 on Nadal @1.02 before the match Not happy days for him
Saintandy666 Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 Wow, Nadal lost. I have no idea who is going to win this now espcially with Djokovic out as well. This could be anyones
Saintandy666 Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 Get in. Please Federer win it this year! He's a great player Federer, don't get me wrong but am I the only one who doesn't like his attitude sometimes? I mean when he wins everything is fine obviously, but when he loses, well, he's a bit of a bad loser. Not very gracious and all that. I just don't like him that much to be honest and I much perfer Nadals attitude.
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 He's a great player Federer, don't get me wrong but am I the only one who doesn't like his attitude sometimes? I mean when he wins everything is fine obviously, but when he loses, well, he's a bit of a bad loser. Not very gracious and all that. I just don't like him that much to be honest and I much perfer Nadals attitude. I prefer watching Federer when he is at his best to be honest. I really felt for Fed that time he lost to Rafa and just started crying. It must be really hard to be on the end of a loss like that after an amazing match that that neither deserved to lose. I've never seen Federer be arrogant, it's just he says when he has played really well and when he has played badly.
chrisobee Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 I noticed on Betfair somebody had £20000 on Nadal @1.02 before the match Not happy days for him That is pathetic, risking 20,000 to win 400 less BF commission ?? Must have more money than sense.
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 Del Potro or Murray to win it i think. Murray will lose in the quarters.
Deppo Posted 31 May, 2009 Author Posted 31 May, 2009 He's a great player Federer, don't get me wrong but am I the only one who doesn't like his attitude sometimes? I mean when he wins everything is fine obviously, but when he loses, well, he's a bit of a bad loser. Not very gracious and all that. I just don't like him that much to be honest and I much perfer Nadals attitude. I agree, but he has this reputation in the media as a gracious winner, carries himself impeccably etc...it simply doesn't ring true. Some of his pronouncements also border on arrogance. I can't fathom the media perception of him...
Julian H. Cope Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 Federer is a total d*ck... but still very good at tennis. I found it satisfying at Wimbledon 2008 to see him cry. It was almost akin to when McEnroe broke Borg's heart all those years ago. Still at least Borg wasn't a dildo.
J Bizzle Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 federer is possibly one of the most down to earth athletes i have ever met. You lot other than hypo just don't like him for being an absolute demon on the court.
jawillwill Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 He's a great player Federer, don't get me wrong but am I the only one who doesn't like his attitude sometimes? I mean when he wins everything is fine obviously, but when he loses, well, he's a bit of a bad loser. Not very gracious and all that. I just don't like him that much to be honest and I much perfer Nadals attitude. Federer is one of the most gracious losers on the tour IMO. Surely it's understandable that he's not over the moon when he loses, but in recent years he's lost to Nadal in the big matches on so many occasions, it must be hard for him to carry on being gracious. I think he's earnt the right to be a little bit arrogant if he wants to be. Having said that, I don't think he's one of the most entertaining players to watch. Without being bias towards the Brits, I genuinely think Murray is on of the most entertaining. Huge range of shots and seems to be able to find angles which no other players can. He, of course, won't win the french, or probably any other grand slam this year, but I am almost certain he will win a couple during his career - although he better get a move on though because he's no longer one of the young players any more. Nadal IS a ****.
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 Federer is one of the most gracious losers on the tour IMO. Surely it's understandable that he's not over the moon when he loses, but in recent years he's lost to Nadal in the big matches on so many occasions, it must be hard for him to carry on being gracious. I think he's earnt the right to be a little bit arrogant if he wants to be. Having said that, I don't think he's one of the most entertaining players to watch. Without being bias towards the Brits, I genuinely think Murray is on of the most entertaining. Huge range of shots and seems to be able to find angles which no other players can. He, of course, won't win the french, or probably any other grand slam this year, but I am almost certain he will win a couple during his career - although he better get a move on though because he's no longer one of the young players any more. Nadal IS a ****. I agree with that (except I'm not overly keen on Murray). Federer is just honest. When he plays brilliantly he says he has and when he doesn't he says that too! It's just that normally he plays well so what is he supposed to say? That he played awful? I think he needs a good coach again though because he has been poor by his standards this year. Hope he can win the French and then Wimbledon again though.
Julian H. Cope Posted 31 May, 2009 Posted 31 May, 2009 federer is possibly one of the most down to earth athletes i have ever met. You lot other than hypo just don't like him for being an absolute demon on the court. No, I do not like him because he is a d*ck.
Deppo Posted 31 May, 2009 Author Posted 31 May, 2009 federer is possibly one of the most down to earth athletes i have ever met. You lot other than hypo just don't like him for being an absolute demon on the court. No, I like his play, you name-dropping ******. You seem a bit special.
keithd Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 If Nadal loses then the draw would be less daunting for Murray, who I think lacks belief against the top two in the Grand Slam tournaments. eh? minty has a great record against federer. nadal granted he struggles against, but he's in the black against federer unless im mistaken (which is probable)
keithd Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 eh? minty has a great record against federer. nadal granted he struggles against, but he's in the black against federer unless im mistaken (which is probable) googled it. 7-2 in nadals favour. WTF do i know about tennis eh? i'll shut up....
Dicko Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 googled it. 7-2 in nadals favour. WTF do i know about tennis eh? i'll shut up.... I thought the original comment was about Murray? He's not played Nadal 9 times in slams - that record is surely Nadal v Federer?
keithd Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 correct!!! i cant even google correctly!! i did indeed mean federer vs minty...oops. 6-2 in murrays favour that one... i blame sunstroke...and lagers
saintwarwick Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 correct!!! i cant even google correctly!! i did indeed mean federer vs minty...oops. 6-2 in murrays favour that one... i blame sunstroke...and lagers At 9.42 in the morning!!
saintwarwick Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 I agree with that (except I'm not overly keen on Murray). Federer is just honest. When he plays brilliantly he says he has and when he doesn't he says that too! It's just that normally he plays well so what is he supposed to say? That he played awful? I think he needs a good coach again though because he has been poor by his standards this year. Hope he can win the French and then Wimbledon again though. I don't know what you have against Murray as he is just as honest as Federer, I hope Murray wins a major soon but some will still find fault with him if he does as brits normally do with winners.
Pancake Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 I don't know what you have against Murray as he is just as honest as Federer, I hope Murray wins a major soon but some will still find fault with him if he does as brits normally do with winners. I thought Andy Murray was Scottish, not British. His wording, not mine.
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 I don't know what you have against Murray as he is just as honest as Federer, I hope Murray wins a major soon but some will still find fault with him if he does as brits normally do with winners. Nothing against Murray I just prefer Fed when he is on top form (granted he needs a coach because he has lost his way this past year.) and I prefer Federer's attitude.
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Posted 1 June, 2009 BTW great win for Federer today. Showed real heart to come through.
Deppo Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Posted 1 June, 2009 eh? minty has a great record against federer. nadal granted he struggles against, but he's in the black against federer unless im mistaken (which is probable) I was referring to his big match mentality in the Grand Slam tournaments against the top two. I know he has a superior record against Federer, but I'm still not sure he has the belief at the very highest level. I wouldn't mind being proved wrong.
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