Nineteen Canteen Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 He didn't say anything of the sort, you annoying Troll. His post was a reply to Stu about Lloyd-Webber, Tabor etc and as a reply, clearly meant that they were not in the original 4. The one that remains was the serious moneyman and when I was told the 4 names there was no-one I had have ever heard of. Whilst being as impatient as the next man/woman/troll for this to be concluded, I totally fail to see the point of this increasing panic to learn the man's identity, before the deal is completed. Unless you wish to spike the deal. Sumdunce Boast, you owe Doggface an unreserved and very public apology. Make it soon and then go back to your hole and carrying on sticking pins into your effegy of Leon Crouch. Saddo. Which Doggface implies is now an if by my interpretation of his post. If the investor is one of the original 4.... I am merely asking for some clarification from a poster whose comments I have read with interest. Isn't that what forums are for and if i have misread his comments then so be it but to me its not as clear as you suggest and open to interpretation. If its a question of semantics then Doggface will tell me and we can all move on. Not sure what your problem is or why the aggressive tone - demanding unreserved public apologies for what amounts to nothing more than a question. In my experience it's best not to post if you don't want to generate comment and debate so please calm yourself. If I can 'spike' a deal based on one innocent question from an interested supporter at the bottom of the food chain then the deal isn't worth saving in my very humble opinion. So stop the bullying act.
doggface Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 nineteen are you clear on what i meant now or would you like me to clarify further??!
Nineteen Canteen Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 nineteen, my response was made to stu regarding Lloyd-Webber, Tabor. I believe the identity of the investor to be one in particular of the original 4, that is what I meant (I have said this before). I don't have/think/want a crown thank you, but if I have anything of value to add to the forum I will, especially if it is positive. My source is 1000% ITK but have not heard anything for a while, I have however had information from elsewhere which I trust. Thank you DF for the clarification. One question remains though if you are saying the investor is one of the original 4 and we are unlikely to be familiar with his name how does this equate to the other suggestion that the investor is a household name or is that simply an unfounded rumour with no basis in fact? I said before I have read your posts with interest and will continue do so and hopefully you don't mind if I ask the odd question when things don't make sense to me. Your ITK crown remains in place - wanted or not! Let me know if you want a full and public apology and hopefully I haven't spiked the deal - whatever that means.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 nineteen are you clear on what i meant now or would you like me to clarify further??! Sorry DF our posts crossed, I took a call whilst writing my last post so hadn't seen your post explaining the situation.
doggface Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 nineteen, the assumption that the investor is a household name in my opinion is a pure myth, it certainly is if the investor is who I believe it to be & I have seen some evidence. If & when it comes out right or wrong I will be honest either way. I think it is wise to keep the name out of the forum if possible. Perhaps I & others are giving the forum too much respect to it's influence, however we all know the club reads the forum & the media and TL. I think we all care too much to jepodise even if only 1% risk. Others are just sticking up for me perhaps because you speculate on my words rather than just ask a genuine question?
OldNick Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 I think we all care too much to jepodise even if only 1% risk. Others are just sticking up for me perhaps because you speculate on my words rather than just ask a genuine question? That scenario was scoffed at on here by a few.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 That scenario was scoffed at on here by a few. Quite rightly aswell. If someone has come this far down the line and investing large amounts of time and effort to buy the club they won't end interest because their name becomes public knowledge. That is just absurd. Peple don't become millionaires by throwing away hundreds of thousands of admin costs for no good reason. Ok, they don't want to be seen in public yet. But there is a big difference between wanting to remain anonymous and walking away from a multi million pound investment.
OldNick Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Quite rightly aswell. If someone has come this far down the line and investing large amounts of time and effort to buy the club they won't end interest because their name becomes public knowledge. That is just absurd. Peple don't become millionaires by throwing away hundreds of thousands of admin costs for no good reason. Ok, they don't want to be seen in public yet. But there is a big difference between wanting to remain anonymous and walking away from a multi million pound investment.but they want to keep it quiet until everything is sealed. There are many reasons to do so.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 but they want to keep it quiet until everything is sealed. There are many reasons to do so. Like what? None would end the deal or effect the price(been decided already). Many football takeovers have occured where the names are public knowledge before everything is sealed.
OldNick Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Like what? None would end the deal or effect the price(been decided already). Many football takeovers have occured where the names are public knowledge before everything is sealed.I assume the buyer has asked for it to be so.It is interesting that both MJ's bidders and Pinnacle have all asked for them same anonimity.
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 I assume the buyer has asked for it to be so.It is interesting that both MJ's bidders and Pinnacle have all asked for them same anonimity. But for distinctly different reasons!
Matthew Le God Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 I assume the buyer has asked for it to be so.It is interesting that both MJ's bidders and Pinnacle have all asked for them same anonimity. Said it before but... Ok, they don't want to be seen in public yet. But there is a big difference between wanting to remain anonymous and walking away from a multi million pound investment which you have invested alot of time and money in.
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 ehhh?? One wishes to remain anonymous to remain out of the public eye for as long as possible. The other wishes to remain anonymous because they are a figment of someone's imagination
Saint Billy Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Just because the investor may not a household name as alluded to by doggface, I suppose that does not mean that we have never heard of him/her! I would prefer a successful businessman rather than a celeb.
saints4lifegb Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 I'M SORRY IF I MISSED SOMETHING!!!!!!!! but last night before i went to bed somebody called patred said he would reveal who the secret millionaire was at midnight.I cannot find any posts by him now I presume it was a wind up. Can anyone enlighten me please???
OldNick Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 One wishes to remain anonymous to remain out of the public eye for as long as possible. The other wishes to remain anonymous because they are a figment of someone's imagination Sadly we will never know the truth,
Matthew Le God Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 I'M SORRY IF I MISSED SOMETHING!!!!!!!! but last night before i went to bed somebody called patred said he would reveal who the secret millionaire was at midnight.I cannot find any posts by him now I presume it was a wind up. Can anyone enlighten me please??? Was a wind up
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 (edited) Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you..... http://pipl.com/directory/people/Brian/Caudwell Not sure if he's been linked already, but I know he has ties to the area... Certainly isn't a household name, but certainly does have a personal fortune running into the hundreds of millions. Also, has the style and grace to do a deal in private.... I do not claim to be ITK in any way shape or form, just my wild stab in the dark.... It really is quite remarkable how little can be found on Google for such an extremely wealthy man Edited 10 June, 2009 by Weston Super Saint Removed link which turned from Brian to John Caudwell...
St Chalet Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 (edited) Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you..... http://pipl.com/directory/people/Brian/Caudwell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Caudwell Not sure if he's been linked already, but I know he has ties to the area... Certainly isn't a household name, but certainly does have a personal fortune running into the hundreds of millions. Also, has the style and grace to do a deal in private.... I do not claim to be ITK in any way shape or form, just my wild stab in the dark.... Mobile phone salesman, great. Edited 10 June, 2009 by St Chalet
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 (edited) mobile phone salesman, great. He was the sleeping partner, and wasn't involved in running the business with brother John.... Edited 10 June, 2009 by Weston Super Saint
St Chalet Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 He was the sleeping partner, and wasn't involved in running the business with brother John.... Ok, retracted. Still a Liverpool fan.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 nineteen, the assumption that the investor is a household name in my opinion is a pure myth, it certainly is if the investor is who I believe it to be & I have seen some evidence. If & when it comes out right or wrong I will be honest either way. I think it is wise to keep the name out of the forum if possible. Perhaps I & others are giving the forum too much respect to it's influence, however we all know the club reads the forum & the media and TL. I think we all care too much to jepodise even if only 1% risk. Others are just sticking up for me perhaps because you speculate on my words rather than just ask a genuine question? Not speculation DF and a genuine question. I do not expect you to name names and expect you trust your sources as would I in the unlikely event of holding information. The point I wanted to be firm on was that one of the original investors was still in the frame and if he was or wasn't a household name. Hopefully, you can understand that if this wasn't the case then it would have appeared things may have changed quite dramtaically given the circumstances but your subsequent posts are reassuring. Thanks for the clarification.
NickG Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 That scenario was scoffed at on here by a few. I am still struggling to see how this forum could even offer a 1% risk of disrupting the takeover
NickG Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Quite rightly aswell. If someone has come this far down the line and investing large amounts of time and effort to buy the club they won't end interest because their name becomes public knowledge. That is just absurd. Peple don't become millionaires by throwing away hundreds of thousands of admin costs for no good reason. Ok, they don't want to be seen in public yet. But there is a big difference between wanting to remain anonymous and walking away from a multi million pound investment. exactly, big difference from preferring to shield identity as long as poss, and walking away over it.
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Whoever they are they want to (for whatever reason) remain anonymous - can we not just respect that?
Saints Pedro Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Whoever they are they want to (for whatever reason) remain anonymous - can we not just respect that? Yes.I agree in principle ,however you can't blame people being curious (obsessed?) about his/her identity considering what we have been through and the potential 'new dawn' around the corner.It would be amusing though in an age of the internet,google,facebook,twitter etc if the person remained anonymous until the deal was done and was not even one of the many speculated on.
Ponty Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Perhaps they'd rather not have the sports media camped outside their home/office right now. I can respect that.
StuRomseySaint Posted 10 June, 2009 Posted 10 June, 2009 Mobile phone salesman, great. Kevin Phillips' wife didn't seem to care.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 June, 2009 Author Posted 10 June, 2009 Kevin Phillips' wife didn't seem to care.
saintbletch Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 David Ross? Co-founder of Carphone Warehouse now building a property development empire in leisure property. Just sold a bunch of shares in CW to put into his property company Kandahar Real Estate (no, really.) Also having to keep his head down recently after having to resign a number of directorships for breaking city rules on using shares as security on personal loans without informing other board members. And he's a sports fan having rescued Leicester City before selling to Mandaric. This from Wikipedia... Ross, who has a strong personal interest in sport, was also on the board of the reconstruction of Wembley Stadium; and was part of the consortium which rescued Leicester City Football Club from receivership, before it was later sold to Milan Mandarić.[3] Ross presently serves on the board of the English Sports Council.[4] Oh and he also enjoys shooting ducks.
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 David Ross? Co-founder of Carphone Warehouse now building a property development empire in leisure property. Just sold a bunch of shares in CW to put into his property company Kandahar Real Estate (no, really.) Also having to keep his head down recently after having to resign a number of directorships for breaking city rules on using shares as security on personal loans without informing other board members. And he's a sports fan having rescued Leicester City before selling to Mandaric. This from Wikipedia... Oh and he also enjoys shooting ducks. Not worth several hundreds of millions though.
saint_mears Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 David Ross? Co-founder of Carphone Warehouse now building a property development empire in leisure property. Just sold a bunch of shares in CW to put into his property company Kandahar Real Estate (no, really.) Also having to keep his head down recently after having to resign a number of directorships for breaking city rules on using shares as security on personal loans without informing other board members. And he's a sports fan having rescued Leicester City before selling to Mandaric. This from Wikipedia... Oh and he also enjoys shooting ducks. Hes a mate of Lowes FFS :mad:
saintbletch Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Not worth several hundreds of millions though. Not sure about that. According to The Guardian this morning his remaining 155M shares in The Carphone Warehouse are worth £250M alone. Oddly he doesn't appear on The Times' rich list.
St_Tel49 Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Said it before but... Ok, they don't want to be seen in public yet. But there is a big difference between wanting to remain anonymous and walking away from a multi million pound investment which you have invested alot of time and money in. However, if they are wealthy they can afford to indulge their whims one of which may be to take umbrage if their anonymity is not honoured.
landford.saint Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Being part of Leiecester consortium (never could spell that place) puts him out of our contention because our bidder is reported to have had no previous dealings with a football club.
landford.saint Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Can we have a sweepstake on whom the new owner is......
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 I've been told it's someone with about 700 million who has something to do with property and is a businessman in London. Will be interesting to see if that's true.
Pip Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Has anyone thought that we may never find out who it is? As long as he is happy for Tony Lynham to act on his behalf there is no real need for him to reveal anything.
Gemmel Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Has anyone thought that we may never find out who it is? As long as he is happy for Tony Lynham to act on his behalf there is no real need for him to reveal anything. Except for FA rules
aintforever Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Except for FA rules Does the fit and proper thing apply to League 1 clubs or it it just the Prem?
krissyboy31 Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Does the fit and proper thing apply to League 1 clubs or it it just the Prem? Yes the FL have a similar test. Nothing to say that if the owner wants to remain anonymous, that they have disclose who he/she is though.
St Chalet Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 (edited) [Removed] Edited 12 June, 2009 by St Chalet Old Joke and I am therefore not funny
Pancake Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/district/southampton/4327128.The_Saints_has_new_owners/ Old joke.
St Chalet Posted 12 June, 2009 Posted 12 June, 2009 Old joke. Bummer, even having to re-cycle these to keep the boredom away.
trousers Posted 13 June, 2009 Posted 13 June, 2009 Macrophobia is a fear of long waits! What's the word for a fear of people with macrophobia?
Faz Posted 13 June, 2009 Posted 13 June, 2009 What's the word for a fear of people with macrophobia? macrophobianphobia (this could run and run)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 June, 2009 Author Posted 15 June, 2009 when does the 21 days run out? we need a countdown...
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