ART Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 What a day this is for ART!. What an end to a stressful month, to the 2008-2009 season! Saints are finally beginning to see the dawn of a new age, have found potential purchasers to take the club forward when all looked doomed just a few days ago In 2005 Saints were relegated from the Premiership in England, as were my adopted home team Montpellier relegated from Ligue One in France. Like Saints all looked lost a few weeks ago with yet another chance of promotion looked over. However, tonight, after a incredible and unbelievable final 6 games Montpellier have clinched promotion back to French Ligue One in 2nd position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end of an era2 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 What a day this is for ART!. What an end to a stressful month, to the 2008-2009 season! Montpellier have clinched promotion back to French Ligue One in 2nd position. And with a coach/manager who's supposed to be in prison as well. They'd witch hunt him down in the UK and burn him at the stake. I'll give coach Courbis a call tomorrow, sadly he won't be at MHFC next season unless LouLou ups the stakes. Still Girard should be competent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I'm not suggesting he is Phil but with all de respect how can you make such a comment. Do you have all the facts? He clearly has one objective and that is to strike the best deal for the creditors, nothing more nothing less. Yes, I have all the facts. I am fully aware that I have been incredibly lucky in my life to have been able to live in a crazy town like Dubai for many years. But that luck has been partly of my own making and has brought me into contact with people from many walks of life in many different fields. My only "fair" response would be to ask around your friends - that whole 6 steps removed thing - I was amazed to find our I knew someone who had dealings with Fry. I posted that 3 weeks ago and gave all the proper caveats so I stick with my opinion. I also think that others may share it, but that may simply be me being a little arrogant, but I doubt it. Ask around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Just wondered, why is it a requirement that the identity of the backer/s is not known? Is it a requirement in this situation ie admin? If it is the backer who has requested anonymity,why? I am not fishing, I am curious, it just seems that every other buyout, takeover, rescue that we hear about we get to hear who the players are. If it is so top secret how is it that some on here know the identity? Happy but puzzled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end of an era2 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 And with a coach/manager who's supposed to be in prison as well. They'd witch hunt him down in the UK and burn him at the stake. I'll give coach Courbis a call tomorrow, sadly he won't be at MHFC next season unless LouLou ups the stakes. Still Girard should be competent enough. Personally in I'm chuffed to nuts because the ASM beat Toulouse in the semis, the ASAP or the SF will be a mere formality, the Bouclier de Brennus will be ours after long years of waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Yes, I have all the facts. I am fully aware that I have been incredibly lucky in my life to have been able to live in a crazy town like Dubai for many years. But that luck has been partly of my own making and has brought me into contact with people from many walks of life in many different fields. My only "fair" response would be to ask around your friends - that whole 6 steps removed thing - I was amazed to find our I knew someone who had dealings with Fry. I posted that 3 weeks ago and gave all the proper caveats so I stick with my opinion. I also think that others may share it, but that may simply be me being a little arrogant, but I doubt it. Ask around Well I'm not going to argue with you and certainly we have shared a common thought process on many SFC issues in recent times. Saying that I'm not sure that living in Dubai automatically gives all the answers, I have many friends there and they don't know the detailed ins and outs of SFC and BT but onwards and upwards. I'd be amazed if anyone other than Fry and a few, close associates know the real details behind the last couple of months worth of activities. I know people very close to some of the dealings but none of them know all the facts. But hopefully that's all behind us now and we can look to the future, probably not a time to go Wilde just yet though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Well said Phil - a true gent considering your 'possible involvement' in the MJ bid :smt041:smt041 Let's all hope we can now look forward to a much brighter future! Thanks I made no secret of the fact I was trying to help. I tried to point out many times that the perception of MJ that we hold was one thing but that he may have had a certain set of skills that were needed in a "consortium" situation. IF I am lucky then a few people will have noticed that I have been a small cog in a very big wheel, but that mean NOTHING, there are other people who have worked like demented idiots for a long time at their own cost and with no "agreements" and no wish to give up their "real lives", and many of them are not even fans, just they felt we were worth saving I know it is not "PC" on here but a bunch of fans did TRY to actually get up off their collective asses and try and save the club, OF COURSE we had no RIGHT to think we should be able to do it. Of COURSE we FELT that we should leave it to the professionals. BUT, do you have ANY idea how WE felt in the last few weeks when there did not seem to be anyone else out there? How many times did I ask "where is the cavalry". But of course, everyone on here saw the MJ initials and made their minds up (TBF I would have joined you). But it was NEVER about MJ, Stuart Green has done an amazing amount of work behind the scenes this last few years to try and sort out the mess we were in, but this forum and many others saw MJ the proven clown. So as that seems to have been achieved, tonight we are as happy as anyone else on here. Jacko was a fool to most of us on here, but if he hadn't kept fighting, maybe Tony & MLT would not have had the time to learn the lessons to be able to get past the finishing line today I HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM TO SUPPORT NEXT SEASON. Thank F*CK for that is all I have EVER been interested in. MLT knows what has gone on in the past weeks and I know he'll never go into details either. For Tony and his team I have but one word RESPECT, the internet warriors on here will never know the horrors he has gone through to reach this point, and that is how it must be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindaloo73 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Looks like Pinnacle Property Consultants have something to do with our friends Aviva. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6391071.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Anybody know what are the ties, to which this article refers, between Pinnacle and Aviva and do they matter? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6391071.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindaloo73 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 What are the chance of the rich European family being The Royal Family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 RESPECT, the internet warriors on here will never know the horrors he has gone through to reach this point, and that is how it must be Good shout and something too often lost in this e-world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 For Tony and his team I have but one word RESPECT, the internet warriors on here will never know the horrors he has gone through to reach this point, and that is how it must be Just been having a quick beer with Tony. I think it fair to say that the obvious strain that he's been under for the last several weeks has been replaced this evening by a contented smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Just been having a quick beer with Tony. I think it fair to say that the obvious strain that he's been under for the last several weeks has been replaced this evening by a contented smile. He shouldn't have to buy himself a beer in Southampton for a very long time. Brilliant news for the club, employees and supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Just been having a quick beer with Tony. I think it fair to say that the obvious strain that he's been under for the last several weeks has been replaced this evening by a contented smile. And so he should. He'll have no idea who I am unless he delves back into the Echo "letter" that was posted the day before JP was "resigned", but please, as I will never have the chance take his hand and say, well done, do it on my behalf but also tell him don't let your guard down, his troubles won't end with this announcement today, they are only just starting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Just wondered, why is it a requirement that the identity of the backer/s is not known? Is it a requirement in this situation ie admin? If it is the backer who has requested anonymity,why? I am not fishing, I am curious, it just seems that every other buyout, takeover, rescue that we hear about we get to hear who the players are. If it is so top secret how is it that some on here know the identity? Happy but puzzled! It does seem a bit pathetic.Like a bunch of big kids playing a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 tell him don't let your guard down, his troubles won't end with this announcement today, they are only just starting! Your turning from dubai_phil to cryptic_phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 IM really grateful for all the work some fans have done to try to secure our future. There are a number of unsung heroes out there and as Phil has intimated already they were not doing it for gain or self publicity but for the fact they had the one thing in common, they are dedicated saints fans. I hope Marc and Co get some genuine thanks for the work they have done in trying to save our club. Yes Marc has been ridiculed for previous take over bids. But I do hope the fans welcome him back to this forum should he choose top come back with out somebody pouring scorn on his posts I sincerely hope that one individaul has the balls to apologise to him for the slanderous and libellous insinutations they made last week. I am also grateful to Messrs Lynam and co for also working thier buts off to save of from the precipce of extinction. I have another wish , That this takeover really does come to fruition and it is the new dawn for the Spirit of Southampton returning. PS If anybody is going over to Dubai. I have a bottle og Highlandd park to pass to PHil, If anybody is can they take it over for me. If not Phil you will have to wait till your back over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Just heard the news on South Tomorrow. Excellent news! And knowing that Le God is involved I think we can all sleep easy tonight knowing that Pinacle is not Lowe in disguise. Tis would never do that to us! Here's to a new begining at our club! Up the Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Your turning from dubai_phil to cryptic_phil lol No, now his team's work really starts Do their plans match the realities in the up to date finances? What is their break even point for ST sales? This deal is exclusive, they paid the 500k and made it non refundable. That makes the deadly serious, however they could (unlikley) find some nasties, where losing 500k is not as bad as losing "millions" They could still have need of the skills and strengths of the man who brought them "ALL" together I doubt it, but he shouldn't relax his guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I meant to add , I was not impressed early on about Mark Fry when I voiced my opinion I got well and truly shafted. How many times can somebody say so much but promise so little and as for exredind the already extend deadlines to even another extended deadline is beyond me. Do you think Paul scholes would do a good job for us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Although good that we appear to have been saved, i'll wait til i know the details and who the money man/men are before i get too carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 IM really grateful for all the work some fans have done to try to secure our future. There are a number of unsung heroes out there and as Phil has intimated already they were not doing it for gain or self publicity but for the fact they had the one thing in common, they are dedicated saints fans. I hope Marc and Co get some genuine thanks for the work they have done in trying to save our club. Yes Marc has been ridiculed for previous take over bids. But I do hope the fans welcome him back to this forum should he choose top come back with out somebody pouring scorn on his posts I sincerely hope that one individaul has the balls to apologise to him for the slanderous and libellous insinutations they made last week. I am also grateful to Messrs Lynam and co for also working thier buts off to save of from the precipce of extinction. I have another wish , That this takeover really does come to fruition and it is the new dawn for the Spirit of Southampton returning. PS If anybody is going over to Dubai. I have a bottle og Highlandd park to pass to PHil, If anybody is can they take it over for me. If not Phil you will have to wait till your back over here. Anyone wants to come here they are welcome even without the Highland Park! I have the daughter and her boyfriend coming this week. He's a spud fan but one of those unsung heroes. But don't worry. Emirates flies to oop north, I'll bring the golf clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 EBS1980 I understand your cautious approach about getting carried away but do you realise how close we came to going into oblivian. Im grateful we have a new opportunity in the offering, I shall not knock who ever takesover but will be eternally grateful once they have ownership of the club. And I do not have to keep hearing Mark Fry has given another deadline. We have almost got our club back. only 21 days to go before we know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Fry as has been pointed out many times will not at any time have given any thought to what is best for our future. He has only ever been concerned with the Creditors and his own career profile. IF he had been concerned about the club then he would have made it far easier for Pinnacle (with a plan for our future) to have bought the club 3 weeks ago and to have already been in position to start building for next season. Fry is not a hero, he very nearly killed this football club Fair post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson massey Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Wake me up when something has ACTUALLY happened........zzzzzzzzzz Apologies if i have missed something silly, but is this not something ACTUALLY happening - i would read the rest of the thread but, tbh, i cant quite focus correctly I dont mean this in any type of pedantic manner - will someone who understands this more than me (or is at least a little more sober) confirm whether this is a good thing (surely it is...?) or if this is just more brinkmanship and we still have a way to go before we should breathe safely... A slightly concerned but more optimistic Em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I dont know who are the 'Money Men' behind Pinnacle, and am happy to wait until he/she/they are made public. But can anyone who knows who they are, if confidentiality possible, indicate what sort of wealth they are intending to put into OUR club, .... is thier ability just to save us from extinction, or have they a modest sum to invest ...for them to be an absolute money-bags is too much to hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Hope it works out for you. Little gives me greater pleasure than to see you beaten, thrashed, relegated etc., but I would take no pleasure in seeing you cease to exist. I think many of us missed your post in the pure relief of still being alive, but thanks for that. Appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 EBS1980 I understand your cautious approach about getting carried away but do you realise how close we came to going into oblivian. Im grateful we have a new opportunity in the offering, I shall not knock who ever takesover but will be eternally grateful once they have ownership of the club. And I do not have to keep hearing Mark Fry has given another deadline. We have almost got our club back. only 21 days to go before we know for sure. Maybe not as much as others, but until that takeover has gone through i'm not gonna be getting carried away, we've had far to many false dawns even in my relatively short lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 PS If anybody is going over to Dubai. I have a bottle og Highlandd park to pass to PHil, If anybody is can they take it over for me. Your looking for a mule to carry stuff from the west to there......if you conceil it in my teddy bear i'll do it for the expenses of 3 weeks in the sun and promise to meet up with Phil at least once(only to express my disappointment at his conduct during the forum match) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Originally Posted by manji I hope they have got some flippin money ! Remember all the excitement when Wilde & co took over ? Needs to put in perspective, because after Lowe's second stint of carnage we had absolutely no money and were out on our feet. The alternative to Pinnacle's "little" money would appear to be no Club. Perspective? That fate was sealed way before. Why not revert to Lowe's interference with team matters? Forcing players out to get them off the wage bill or not playing them if they insisted upon bonuses? Remember muppet! I really doubt Pinnacle will have 1/20th of the money for the team that we ****ed against the wall over the last few years, but beggars cannot be choosers. It's their money and what little of it they throw in our direction will be truly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Perspective? That fate was sealed way before. Why not revert to Lowe's interference with team matters? Forcing players out to get them off the wage bill or not playing them if they insisted upon bonuses? Remember muppet! The only thing I can remember is the ludicrous comments you've been making on here for ages, including the 50% wages bill (we're still not at that level three or four years on LOL) and how the Executives played it with a straight bat. When it comes to financial stuff, I'd probably give Jackson the benefit of the doubt over you LMFAO. Spiralling;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Oh when the new world is revealed When the new world is revealed Oh how I want to be there on that morning When the new world is revealed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Thanks I made no secret of the fact I was trying to help. I tried to point out many times that the perception of MJ that we hold was one thing but that he may have had a certain set of skills that were needed in a "consortium" situation. IF I am lucky then a few people will have noticed that I have been a small cog in a very big wheel, but that mean NOTHING, there are other people who have worked like demented idiots for a long time at their own cost and with no "agreements" and no wish to give up their "real lives", and many of them are not even fans, just they felt we were worth saving I know it is not "PC" on here but a bunch of fans did TRY to actually get up off their collective asses and try and save the club, OF COURSE we had no RIGHT to think we should be able to do it. Of COURSE we FELT that we should leave it to the professionals. BUT, do you have ANY idea how WE felt in the last few weeks when there did not seem to be anyone else out there? How many times did I ask "where is the cavalry". But of course, everyone on here saw the MJ initials and made their minds up (TBF I would have joined you). But it was NEVER about MJ, Stuart Green has done an amazing amount of work behind the scenes this last few years to try and sort out the mess we were in, but this forum and many others saw MJ the proven clown. So as that seems to have been achieved, tonight we are as happy as anyone else on here. Jacko was a fool to most of us on here, but if he hadn't kept fighting, maybe Tony & MLT would not have had the time to learn the lessons to be able to get past the finishing line today I HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM TO SUPPORT NEXT SEASON. Thank F*CK for that is all I have EVER been interested in. MLT knows what has gone on in the past weeks and I know he'll never go into details either. For Tony and his team I have but one word RESPECT, the internet warriors on here will never know the horrors he has gone through to reach this point, and that is how it must beWell said Phil. Let's have few beers when this is all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Thanks I made no secret of the fact I was trying to help. I tried to point out many times that the perception of MJ that we hold was one thing but that he may have had a certain set of skills that were needed in a "consortium" situation. IF I am lucky then a few people will have noticed that I have been a small cog in a very big wheel, but that mean NOTHING, there are other people who have worked like demented idiots for a long time at their own cost and with no "agreements" and no wish to give up their "real lives", and many of them are not even fans, just they felt we were worth saving I know it is not "PC" on here but a bunch of fans did TRY to actually get up off their collective asses and try and save the club, OF COURSE we had no RIGHT to think we should be able to do it. Of COURSE we FELT that we should leave it to the professionals. BUT, do you have ANY idea how WE felt in the last few weeks when there did not seem to be anyone else out there? How many times did I ask "where is the cavalry". But of course, everyone on here saw the MJ initials and made their minds up (TBF I would have joined you). But it was NEVER about MJ, Stuart Green has done an amazing amount of work behind the scenes this last few years to try and sort out the mess we were in, but this forum and many others saw MJ the proven clown. So as that seems to have been achieved, tonight we are as happy as anyone else on here. Jacko was a fool to most of us on here, but if he hadn't kept fighting, maybe Tony & MLT would not have had the time to learn the lessons to be able to get past the finishing line today I HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM TO SUPPORT NEXT SEASON. Thank F*CK for that is all I have EVER been interested in. MLT knows what has gone on in the past weeks and I know he'll never go into details either. For Tony and his team I have but one word RESPECT, the internet warriors on here will never know the horrors he has gone through to reach this point, and that is how it must be I don't doubt your sincerity, but for all you say about only being interested in having a football team to support next year, your ego is coming over loud and clear too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Fry as has been pointed out many times will not at any time have given any thought to what is best for our future. He has only ever been concerned with the Creditors and his own career profile. IF he had been concerned about the club then he would have made it far easier for Pinnacle (with a plan for our future) to have bought the club 3 weeks ago and to have already been in position to start building for next season. Fry is not a hero, he very nearly killed this football club BUt that is his job - the club created this mess not the administrator - heis job is to get the best that for the creditors who are OWED becaues of the CLUBs feck ups - if you just ordered a new car paid 20K but it was never delivered as they went bust, would you not want the administrator doing all he could to get you your cash back rather than worrying about the the manufacturer surviving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Okay, not a done deal just yet, but I hope now that some of you who've been doubting Tony Lynam's ability to pull a deal together will give him due credit for the incredible efforts he's been exerting in order to rescue your club. Frankly, I think some of you owe him and his team an apology for some of the less than savoury comments that have been made on this forum. This board is full of unsavoury comments about all sorts of things and people and, depressingly, I do not think that that will change. You are right of course but I would not hold my breath for the apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 BUt that is his job - the club created this mess not the administrator - heis job is to get the best that for the creditors who are OWED becaues of the CLUBs feck ups - if you just ordered a new car paid 20K but it was never delivered as they went bust' date=' would you not want the administrator doing all he could to get you your cash back rather than worrying about the the manufacturer surviving?[/quote'] How dare you speak common sense on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Can anyone clear this one up for me? - If the deal goes through - Will there still be a mortgage on the stadium? Or will that have been swept up as part of the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Can anyone clear this one up for me? - If the deal goes through - Will there still be a mortgage on the stadium? Or will that have been swept up as part of the deal? DEpends on what the deal is - I dont know but would speculate that if thetotal owed to creditors is 28 mil the dela to wipe the debt may be as high as 15-17 mil but its been hinted that this may be based on promotions etc - eg 8 mil up front with futher payments due on promotions etc... would make sense as teh sell value would be alot less than 15 mil.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I knew it was a sign something was going to happen as I sliced my pinnacle ball out of bounds four times this morning. It said on the golfball that it don't hook or slice! What utter toss... Anyway let's hope we finally move forward to where we belong. :-) And it is quite right - the ball does not hook or slice. It's the guy who hits it who does that! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 pleased to hear it' date=' i think most are fed up with the old arguments although[b'] Alpine has not had his say yet[/b] but me i am looking forward to handing over the dough for 3 season tickets watching the club re build from the bottom, but most of all, hopefully, winning some home games and enjoying my football The whole deal will stand or fall on his approval!!!!! My apologies Alps - I have underestimated you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Hang on a sec. This seed that was planted FOR A REASON about Tabor. Is he supposedly part of the pinncale bid or not? If NOT tread carefully as Dainty Dave isn't a poster that i'd trust as he clearly has an agenda. Interesting comment from a person who has had nothing but an agenda from the start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Good news. But if Pinnacle do save this club, lets fill that ground for our first League One game and give Pinnacle a decent welcome to this fantastic club! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeH Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 whilst scanning through these emails, rumours and itk types, and after reading the times article, it might be a silly question but who are the rich european family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Good news. But if Pinnacle do save this club, lets fill that ground for our first League One game and give Pinnacle a decent welcome to this fantastic club! COYR That really does depend if they do the right things like a decent manager and some players who really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 I'm not suggesting he is Phil but with all de respect how can you make such a comment. Do you have all the facts? He clearly has one objective and that is to strike the best deal for the creditors, nothing more nothing less. Agreed, Fry is just doing his job and depending on which side of the fence you sit your opinion on how he has performed is very likely to be jaundiced in some way. Fry's role has been more akin to a football referee and I doubt he ever set out to be anyone's hero but to act on behalf of those who had most to lose to ensure that role was performed in accordance with regulations regarding these matters. Good posts Phil but IMO you let your emotions run away with you with regard to your Fry comment. Just a bloke doing his job and a fairly thankless one at that. Greenridge, I have made a note of this historic event where we seem to be in agreement for the first. Perhaps, it's a sign of the times or reason to be quietly or cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiSaint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 What are the chance of the rich European family being The Royal Family? Now that the preferred bidder has been announced I think it's safe to reveal who the European family (the Swiss bidders) were: Hope that clears things up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Can any of the those who seem to know more than most, Weston, FF, Doggface, Phil, Morph, Um Pahars, etc, confirm that no past or present directors exec or otherwise will be involved or offered a position in the brave new world. 21 days will seem like a lifetime but it will seem easier knowing this is the dawning of a new era and not relying on some tired faces from the past to drum up support. Until the backer(s) are known and structure communicated assuming the club satisfy due diligence I remain only cautiously optimistic and as Weston mentioned there is still a long way to go and the celebration and bubbling hysteria really needs to be put on ice for 3 weeks. It doesn't help some posters criticising Fry for simply doing his job. I am also a little concerned about MLT's future role. The man is a legend in the true sense of the word but he could seriously damage that image if he is given a role that does not make the best use of his talents or puts the regard he is held in, unnecessarily on the line or at risk. IMO I don't think he should be chairman or manager but would be obviously a great non-exec director with an an ambassadorial role that we have so badly lacked in the past IMO. Sir Bobby Charlton at Man U would be IMO the type of role I would like to see Matt play and above any past, present or future politics. The advice he can give behind the scenes will undoubtedly be invaluable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Obviously after the blackest of black days when the salaries were not paid for May on Thursday, the Pinnacle news is a welcome relief. I am happy to give them the benefit of the doubt as they have paid a deposit and equally happy to assume they either have the required funds or are confident of raising them including covering the projected losses in Div 1 next year without widespread player sales. I do not think the Pinnacle performance (nor that of Mr Fry) in the last few weeks from an acquisition perspective has been particularly good and I would not like it on my CV contrary to a few posters on here. This has been evidenced by poor publicity management, the wages payment problem and the fact that their serious bid could be undermined by a bunch of jokers led by Marc Jackson. I will hold my judgement until their backers are made public and the deal completes and 21 days of exclusivity is a long time in SFC's recent history. Until then I will keep a smile on my face and will keep on hoping that this will succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Agreed, Fry is just doing his job and depending on which side of the fence you sit your opinion on how he has performed is very likely to be jaundiced in some way. Fry's role has been more akin to a football referee and I doubt he ever set out to be anyone's hero but to act on behalf of those who had most to lose to ensure that role was performed in accordance with regulations regarding these matters. Good posts Phil but IMO you let your emotions run away with you with regard to your Fry comment. Just a bloke doing his job and a fairly thankless one at that. Greenridge, I have made a note of this historic event where we seem to be in agreement for the first. Perhaps, it's a sign of the times or reason to be quietly or cautiously optimistic. 19, I did mention previously that I stayed for a weekend in UK with family friends. One of them knows Fry very well and pointed out a few issues that may have caused us problems. Everything I saw from the distance in the couple of weeks since I returned tallied with that input. So yes, from a "looking in" perspective you are right to ping me on that, but having been told what to expect, no that one wasn't emotion None of the ex shareholders would have been anywhere near the group "led" by SG & MJ. Morph mentioned Leon was involved with Salz. As for Pinnacle, I'm sure they will keep their own counsel until the time is right, but if I was to guess I think they are all finally gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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