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This site's going to the dogs. There's been a whole page of comments since someone asked about rooting Chorley's daughter and not a single one of them has had the decency to address this outrage, so I suppose it's down to me to set things right ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh FFS - was an investmnet in a service that cost the club a bout 200k a year t9o run - yet teh volume of airtime it provided to teh club for marketing and advertising would ahve cost in excess of 7 figures a year had it been spent on a 3rd party - but hey why let these sort of facts stand in teh way of another Chorley rant based on ignorance of business economics... The cost would have been covered by teh annual marketing/advertising budget' date=' which meant that budget could be LOWER than otherwise and thus LESS money leaving the club...[/quote']

 

Sorry, Frank, but I'm in the advertising marketplace with my business and you're barking up the wrong tree.

 

Since when before we bought the radio station did we spend money on advertising on the radio, or indeed on TV advertising, newspapers, etc? We never did before, so any suggestion that we were saving money from our advertising budget is totally spurious. It simply isn't necessary for a Premiership football club to advertise on the local radio when it has itself featured on the TV or the national newspapers and other media simply on the back of our matches, changes of management, buying or selling of players, etc.

 

Fans aren't going to attend just because we advertised ourselves on a local radio station that many didn't even listen too apart from on match days if they couldn't attend the match. Granted that the radio might have been used as a vehicle to drum up business for corporate events at the stadium, but then again, most of those potential customers might not be listening to the radio station. The best way to advertise to them is via advertising products, which is below the line advertising rather than above the line which is radio, TV, newspapers, internet, yellow pages, etc. Advertising products can be targeted specifically at those potential clients for corporate conferences and hospitality and would keep the club's name visible to those clients on their desk or in their place of work every day, instead of just a few fleeting seconds at a time. The club already buys many of those products which it sells to the fans with vast profit margins on them. These are the pens, mugs, watches, keyfobs, kiddies duvets, ties, polo shirts, T shirts etc. Most of those things could easily be adapted to advertise the corporate contact numbers and would have done a far better job of advertising to those selected targets for a fraction of the cost.

 

The fact remains that we bought the radio station for much more than we sold it, it was not profitable, meaning that we lost money that could have been spent on players and derived little of no benefit from the fact that we could use it as a vehicle to advertise us, when we had not felt the need to spend on that before. The only useful purpose that it could have performed, was to add weight to the fact that the PLC holding company was just not the football club only.

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Its interesting that some fans dont worry about spending money on expensive signings or high wages' date=' yet seem to have a problem with teh club investing in a service aimed at and for FANS - teh radio staion was in effect subsidised yes but it did provide alot of Saints content on a daily basis and where else can you get that? Was there not some value in subbing it to about 200k a year in the prem - Had the club paid commercial rates for marketing and advertising to a seperate radio station for the same air time it would have run into 7 figures a year... It was sold because when in the CCC there were other priorities - but thats the sort of thing that Chorley seems ignorant about....and why many dont ahve much time for him as 'spokesperson'...[/quote']

 

Equally the same fans calling for prudent football spending and still ****ing over Lowe loss on the radio station.

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"John Magnier, through Acomita, his Swiss-based investment vehicle, caused a stir earlier this year when he took a 14% stake in Devro, a Scottish company that is the largest sausage-skin maker in the world."

 

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article1017746.ece?token=null&offset=24

 

Trousers is on the money.

 

Either John Magnier is taking us over to develop the football team into a wordclass outfit, or he plans to mince the players and make sausages.

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Sorry, Frank, but I'm in the advertising marketplace with my business and you're barking up the wrong tree.

 

Since when before we bought the radio station did we spend money on advertising on the radio, or indeed on TV advertising, newspapers, etc? We never did before, so any suggestion that we were saving money from our advertising budget is totally spurious. It simply isn't necessary for a Premiership football club to advertise on the local radio when it has itself featured on the TV or the national newspapers and other media simply on the back of our matches, changes of management, buying or selling of players, etc.

 

Fans aren't going to attend just because we advertised ourselves on a local radio station that many didn't even listen too apart from on match days if they couldn't attend the match. Granted that the radio might have been used as a vehicle to drum up business for corporate events at the stadium, but then again, most of those potential customers might not be listening to the radio station. The best way to advertise to them is via advertising products, which is below the line advertising rather than above the line which is radio, TV, newspapers, internet, yellow pages, etc. Advertising products can be targeted specifically at those potential clients for corporate conferences and hospitality and would keep the club's name visible to those clients on their desk or in their place of work every day, instead of just a few fleeting seconds at a time. The club already buys many of those products which it sells to the fans with vast profit margins on them. These are the pens, mugs, watches, keyfobs, kiddies duvets, ties, polo shirts, T shirts etc. Most of those things could easily be adapted to advertise the corporate contact numbers and would have done a far better job of advertising to those selected targets for a fraction of the cost.

 

The fact remains that we bought the radio station for much more than we sold it, it was not profitable, meaning that we lost money that could have been spent on players and derived little of no benefit from the fact that we could use it as a vehicle to advertise us, when we had not felt the need to spend on that before. The only useful purpose that it could have performed, was to add weight to the fact that the PLC holding company was just not the football club only.

 

Sorry Wes disagree, Just because we had not done so before,does not mean we did not benefit when able to do so, whether it be generating more interest by providing more news and features etc, will all have helped + special offers and deals. Also the simple fact that it provided more news and features about the club is in effect not just a service but marketing - converted or otherwise, engaging with the fans albeit in this marketig wayis still an important comercial tool.

 

Sure it was a luxury item but What premiershiop quality players could we have gotton for 200K a year? I still think more is made of this because of WHO bought it rather than WHY or WHEN. Sure we probably paid way over the odds for it, but that was always going to happen when a prem club with Sky millions was interested and it would have cost us way over the market rate whoever we approached - as to selling at a loss, yup these things happen as it was a sellers market when we were interested, and a buyers when we needed to dump the asset...

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Equally the same fans calling for prudent football spending and still ****ing over Lowe loss on the radio station.

 

Sorry you miss the point deliberatly or otherwise I dont know... Prudent spending is spening within ones means and that is what was called for... a business or club will also budget for other items, be it marketing or whatever which you grasp and being prudent is ensuring these areas ALSO stay within budget which they did - you may not agree with the way Saints set up that budget and nor do I in some areas, but that is a totally differnt thing as to whether teh budget was prudent or not.. and ours was because we did not make losses.

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Trousers is on the money.

 

Either John Magnier is taking us over to develop the football team into a wordclass outfit, or he plans to mince the players and make sausages.

 

Did nobody else think it was suspicious that a man renowned for horse breeding has bought a sausage factory?

 

I'll have a 1lb of Shergar and sage please butcher.

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You know nothing! You should do your research on what actaully happened in the negotiations. He wasted our money once again. 1 million for a radio station you're having a laugh

 

When the radio station was purchased we were not expecting to be relegated.£1m is nothing when you are in that league.It had earnings that you cant quantify.What is 24 hour advertising worth a year? Especially as the people listening are in the main pro Saints and so likely to buy from the advertising.To me it was a good investment if we had stayed up.

When Pompey radio is being broadcast and is pushing their club i expect fans will moan why couldnt we do the same.

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Negotiations are at a late stage.If there are 4 parties still in I cant see how it is at a late stage.

 

You should be happy nick, yesterday you were prophesising that the club would be wound up, but today there are still four bidders :D

 

Or are you more upset that you weren't told about it first ;)

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Does anyone have pics of Chortles Chorley's daughter?

 

I miss his posts on here. They always started by saying he saw a poster's mum down the town, then put the SFC world to rights. When anyone questioned him he would lose his rag, imply violence and then give out his mobile number. If anyone posted a serious question he would cunningly dodge it by saying he had to take his girl friend to the hairdressers.

 

This forum is a duller place without him.....

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From BBC606 >>

Baloise Holding is a Swiss insurance holding company. It employs over 7000 employees across europe. It generates just under 10 billion pounds worth of revenue and its average profit margin is just under 1 billion pounds.

Martin Strobel the CEO expressed an interest into domestic football but was recommended to look abroad to foregin leagues for the best potential. Although the company is capable of funding a premier league club the CFO, German Egloff , was introduced to the football league and regarded clubs such as Saints, Coventry and Derby as having the right set-up to produce a reasonable amount of profit year after year without requiring millions of pounds to be pumped into the club. So Martin Strobel gave the green light along with the rest of the board to declare an interest in saints now that the right opportunity has arisen. Roger Salvetti, the UK embassador for Baloise, has formed a team of British legal personnel to work alongside their own accountants in order to enter negotiations with Mark Fry and produce a good deal. Roger Salvetti considers Southampton, as well as much of the South Coast, to have the best financial district outside of London due to its history and the companies already based there.

 

So, it seems we could well be under Swiss protection very soon!!

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Nah this is better

 

Be careful becaus eeven though you know what is going to happen with the ceiling fan - its does not prepare you for how funny it really is....I just had the whole office look over to what I was doing in my office..

 

Poor little thing....I need to go home and attach something to my ceiling fan now, see if my cats are as stupid as that one!!

 

Swiss eh?? Toblerones in the concourse anyone??

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From BBC606 >>

Baloise Holding is a Swiss insurance holding company. It employs over 7000 employees across europe. It generates just under 10 billion pounds worth of revenue and its average profit margin is just under 1 billion pounds.

Martin Strobel the CEO expressed an interest into domestic football but was recommended to look abroad to foregin leagues for the best potential. Although the company is capable of funding a premier league club the CFO, German Egloff , was introduced to the football league and regarded clubs such as Saints, Coventry and Derby as having the right set-up to produce a reasonable amount of profit year after year without requiring millions of pounds to be pumped into the club. So Martin Strobel gave the green light along with the rest of the board to declare an interest in saints now that the right opportunity has arisen. Roger Salvetti, the UK embassador for Baloise, has formed a team of British legal personnel to work alongside their own accountants in order to enter negotiations with Mark Fry and produce a good deal. Roger Salvetti considers Southampton, as well as much of the South Coast, to have the best financial district outside of London due to its history and the companies already based there.

 

So, it seems we could well be under Swiss protection very soon!!

 

DAMN YOU!

 

The hope is what makes it unbearable! :rolleyes:

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From BBC606 >>

Baloise Holding is a Swiss insurance holding company. It employs over 7000 employees across europe. It generates just under 10 billion pounds worth of revenue and its average profit margin is just under 1 billion pounds.

Martin Strobel the CEO expressed an interest into domestic football but was recommended to look abroad to foregin leagues for the best potential. Although the company is capable of funding a premier league club the CFO, German Egloff , was introduced to the football league and regarded clubs such as Saints, Coventry and Derby as having the right set-up to produce a reasonable amount of profit year after year without requiring millions of pounds to be pumped into the club. So Martin Strobel gave the green light along with the rest of the board to declare an interest in saints now that the right opportunity has arisen. Roger Salvetti, the UK embassador for Baloise, has formed a team of British legal personnel to work alongside their own accountants in order to enter negotiations with Mark Fry and produce a good deal. Roger Salvetti considers Southampton, as well as much of the South Coast, to have the best financial district outside of London due to its history and the companies already based there.

 

So, it seems we could well be under Swiss protection very soon!!

 

But we are SFC, are we allowed to have something good happen to us?

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Baloise. Making you safer.

 

Headquartered in Basel, Switzerland, the Baloise Group is a European provider of insurance and pension solutions. It positions itself as an insurer with a smart prevention concept, the "Safety World". In Switzerland, the Group operates as a focused financial services provider, offering a combination of insurance and banking services. The Group also has a market presence in Germany, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Croatia and Serbia. The sales network spans the Group's own sales organization, plus brokers and other partners. Baloise operates its innovative pension plan products business for private customers throughout Europe with its competence centres in Luxembourg and Liechtenstein.

Bâloise-Holding shares are included in the Swiss Market Index (SMI), comprising the 20 leading Swiss companies, and are listed in the main segment of SIX Swiss Exchange. The Baloise Group employs some 9,200 people.

 

What we achieved in 2008.

 

* Profit of CHF 386.7 million, thanks to strong operational performance.

* Return on equity of 9.0 %. Excellent solvency of 196 %.

* Business volume growth of 0.7 % in local currencies to CHF 7,858.3 million.

* Outstanding combined ratio of 88.1 %.

* Decrease of embedded value of life insurance due to the financial crisis from CHF 3,230.6 million to CHF 2,446.2 million. This corresponds to a return on embedded value of – 20.1 %.

* Unchanged dividend per share of CHF 4.50; this equates to a return on dividends of 5.7 % on the price at year-end of CHF 78.50.

* Earnings accretion through continuation of share buy-backs.

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From BBC606 >>

Baloise Holding is a Swiss insurance holding company. It employs over 7000 employees across europe. It generates just under 10 billion pounds worth of revenue and its average profit margin is just under 1 billion pounds.

Martin Strobel the CEO expressed an interest into domestic football but was recommended to look abroad to foregin leagues for the best potential. Although the company is capable of funding a premier league club the CFO, German Egloff , was introduced to the football league and regarded clubs such as Saints, Coventry and Derby as having the right set-up to produce a reasonable amount of profit year after year without requiring millions of pounds to be pumped into the club. So Martin Strobel gave the green light along with the rest of the board to declare an interest in saints now that the right opportunity has arisen. Roger Salvetti, the UK embassador for Baloise, has formed a team of British legal personnel to work alongside their own accountants in order to enter negotiations with Mark Fry and produce a good deal. Roger Salvetti considers Southampton, as well as much of the South Coast, to have the best financial district outside of London due to its history and the companies already based there.

 

So, it seems we could well be under Swiss protection very soon!!

 

606 seems to be even more full of rubbish than this site, and that's saying something.

 

Can't see any reason for an insurance company would buy a football club.

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Baloise. Making you safer.

 

Headquartered in Basel, Switzerland, the Baloise Group is a European provider of insurance and pension solutions. It positions itself as an insurer with a smart prevention concept, the "Safety World". In Switzerland, the Group operates as a focused financial services provider, offering a combination of insurance and banking services. The Group also has a market presence in Germany, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Croatia and Serbia. The sales network spans the Group's own sales organization, plus brokers and other partners. Baloise operates its innovative pension plan products business for private customers throughout Europe with its competence centres in Luxembourg and Liechtenstein.

Bâloise-Holding shares are included in the Swiss Market Index (SMI), comprising the 20 leading Swiss companies, and are listed in the main segment of SIX Swiss Exchange. The Baloise Group employs some 9,200 people.

 

What we achieved in 2008.

 

* Profit of CHF 386.7 million, thanks to strong operational performance.

* Return on equity of 9.0 %. Excellent solvency of 196 %.

* Business volume growth of 0.7 % in local currencies to CHF 7,858.3 million.

* Outstanding combined ratio of 88.1 %.

* Decrease of embedded value of life insurance due to the financial crisis from CHF 3,230.6 million to CHF 2,446.2 million. This corresponds to a return on embedded value of – 20.1 %.

* Unchanged dividend per share of CHF 4.50; this equates to a return on dividends of 5.7 % on the price at year-end of CHF 78.50.

* Earnings accretion through continuation of share buy-backs.

 

Phew, it would be too good to be true, therefore...

 

...NEXT!

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Oh nicky........insults do not become you. If my friend, you set your self up as a know all, and get found out as a know f*ck all, then please forgive me for my little digs. WHAT!!!, have you actually posted re this takeover, that has born fruit. FFS, yesterday you had the club all folded, and the end of the world was nigh. Also, my little over emotional darling, my views are based on your ability, to change sides every couple of hours.
i can claim to have put up the meeting of the staff yesterday and them not being paid. Of course giving info out can be fraught with danger, as takeovers can fail over slight technicalities or demands at the last moment.It has supposedly happened to 2 of the people so far. Of course it would be better to be prudent and wait for the OS to publish any info.Perhpas that may be best at least you will hear the news 2 days later. The meeting yesterday was called for the staff, at that stage it was a case I had heard a whisper that the money due to be paid over met a hiccup and then having a call from a friend who told me that the wages had not been paid as well as the staff called for a meeting. My knowledge of liquidations/recievership is minute but had got the imprssion from people who have it on here that Fry would have to put the club into liquidation as soon as he could not pay a bill.That added to the info that the money had not in fact been deposited made me fear the worst. In fact 2 or 3 others were also worried who also have people they get info from.

As for being emotional, I will accept that as i was seeing the club I have invested a lot of time in looked as it was going to the wall, of course I dont easily turn my back on it when things are tough so you wouldnt understand.That is not a dig just a truism by the way.

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You should be happy nick, yesterday you were prophesising that the club would be wound up, but today there are still four bidders :D

 

Or are you more upset that you weren't told about it first ;)

iam happy that the club has survived. Are you Ginge's twin? Hardly prophesising more like terrified.
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Does anyone have pics of Chortles Chorley's daughter?

 

I miss his posts on here. They always started by saying he saw a poster's mum down the town, then put the SFC world to rights. When anyone questioned him he would lose his rag, imply violence and then give out his mobile number. If anyone posted a serious question he would cunningly dodge it by saying he had to take his girl friend to the hairdressers.

 

This forum is a duller place without him.....

 

He had some Strange Ways.

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