PaulSaint Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Our new owner (well put down a deposit): In the 2008 issue of The Sunday Times Rich List,Michael Tabor was rated the 134th Richest Man in Britain with a fortune of more than $1.24 billion.. He gets a stadium, training ground, development land & a good goalie, just need some decent outfield players! So not such a big difference now is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 29 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Delighted to say I have never so much as looked at a Portsmouth web forum, let alone post on one like you seem to do obsessively. You're in the Premier League onto your third multimillionaire and we're up ****street. And you're still bloody obsessed with us. When you were nowhere I didn't give your club a second thought. Bitter, bitter ****s. I know, odd isnt' it? Nomatter what our contrasting fortunes, they just can't get rid of that chip on their shoulders. I guess we should be flattered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 This would be the same Kanu match days after the greatest day in your history to celebrate one of your best players in your recent history and how many bothered to turn up? The save our saints game was a load of cobbled together nonsense where the fans were being fleeced again once too often, and everyone knew raising piddly amounts of money wasn't going to make a blind bit of difference. I am proud of Saints fans for turning their backs on it. Good luck with your sheikh but don't forget Sunderland, Villa, Everton, Man City and Spurs are all keen on being the next big thing too. And who had the fifth biggest wage bill last season? And where did it get them. Nope. Sorry but that just won't wash. This was billed as a 'save the saints' event, and as such if there was really, really any true feeling about your club, it SHOULD have sold out. It didn't. Not only did it not sell out, sales didn't top 1500. Even if you couldn't stand another 90 minutes of dross at SMS with all the crap on the pitch and off it, if you really cared, you'd buy a ticket and just throw it in the bin if you couldn't actually face being there. As for being 'proud of Saints fans for turning their backs on it', that just speaks volumes about how far you're prepared to go to save your club. When the SOS Pompey campaign was started in 1976 I gave my 60p a week pocket money to it every week until the campaign finished. It amounted to just a few pounds. A pathetic gesture in many ways, but one of many, many thousands of similar gestures that showed that we cared and incredibly ended up actually raising the 25k we needed to stave off bankruptcy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red gav Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I have gay friends who get loads more sex than me, jealous am I f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 (edited) I have made a news years resolution not to poke fun at the blue few until such time as (a) we have a future and (b) the small matter of a 4-1 defeat. or © they go down or go bust heads down until we have something to shout about Edited 29 May, 2009 by Amesbury Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Nope. Sorry but that just won't wash. This was billed as a 'save the saints' event, and as such if there was really, really any true feeling about your club, it SHOULD have sold out. It didn't. Not only did it not sell out, sales didn't top 1500. Even if you couldn't stand another 90 minutes of dross at SMS with all the crap on the pitch and off it, if you really cared, you'd buy a ticket and just throw it in the bin if you couldn't actually face being there. As for being 'proud of Saints fans for turning their backs on it', that just speaks volumes about how far you're prepared to go to save your club. When the SOS Pompey campaign was started in 1976 I gave my 60p a week pocket money to it every week until the campaign finished. It amounted to just a few pounds. A pathetic gesture in many ways, but one of many, many thousands of similar gestures that showed that we cared and incredibly ended up actually raising the 25k we needed to stave off bankruptcy..... OMG I agree with a Skate. We were blase and arrogant about our survival. We got lucky that a few people had the guts and tenacity to keep going. It would have been damned easy for them to have given up. As for you lot. Well, from our side let's just hope the FA/PL take a good close look at Hydra Properties. Some wiser people did some checking and felt they were too close to breaching FA regs about the actual final beneficial owner. You'll likely get away with it as you don't have the legacy of old Ruddy Cheeks p*ssing off the suits. If it had been us being bought by him, we'd have got fried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 the FA/PL take a good close look at Hydra Properties. Some wiser people did some checking and felt they were too close to breaching FA regs about the actual final beneficial owner. dont understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Our new owner (well put down a deposit): In the 2008 issue of The Sunday Times Rich List,Michael Tabor was rated the 134th Richest Man in Britain with a fortune of more than $1.24 billion.. Is this based on fact, a rumour doing the rounds, or just one mans wild guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 The only person to have mentioned Tabor would not get my seal of reliability, but maybe that's just me. BTW, I have no idea whatsoever who is involved in the bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 The only person to have mentioned Tabor would not get my seal of reliability, but maybe that's just me. BTW, I have no idea whatsoever who is involved in the bid. ty Ponty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino M Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 OMG I agree with a Skate. We were blase and arrogant about our survival. We got lucky that a few people had the guts and tenacity to keep going. It would have been damned easy for them to have given up. As for you lot. Well, from our side let's just hope the FA/PL take a good close look at Hydra Properties. Some wiser people did some checking and felt they were too close to breaching FA regs about the actual final beneficial owner. You'll likely get away with it as you don't have the legacy of old Ruddy Cheeks p*ssing off the suits. If it had been us being bought by him, we'd have got fried If you are going to post something, then at least get your facts straight, please. Hydra Properties are not going to have anything to do with the funding for the takeover, as it is a totally different company that is at the front of the takeover. The other thing, is that you could not fill the Dell a lot of the time when you were in the top flight, but you managed to get a lot higher attendances at St Marys. The reason is that at Fratton Park, you have to book tickets weeks in advance, so we are not able to get the impulse fan that thinks they would like to go to the football today, as you cannot pay on the day. If a new 35 or 40,000 stadium was built in Portsmouth then the same situation would happen as it did with you and St Marys. The other thing is, the ticket prices will come down to help fill the stadium, as the only reason the prices at Fratton Park are so expensive is it is so bloody small. The other thing, which is where you had the upper hand a few years ago, is that football fans in the surrounding areas, Fareham, Titchfield, Locks Heath, Hedge End etc... if they want to go and watch a football match, they will now choose the Premier League team, as they did with you when you were there, but they will now come and watch us, which is exactly how your fan base grew, but it will now happen to us, should we build a lot bigger stadium. The other thing is, and I am not turning this in to a slanging match, as I am old enough now to go beyond that, but as a tourist Portsmouth offers a lot more than Southampton does as a city. Portsmouth has the Historic Dockyard with HMS Victory, The Warrior and the Mary Rose, The Tower and Gunwharf, the beach might not be the best, but it is still there, as that is to name just a few things. The thing is and please correct me, but I cannot think of many things or places that Southampton has that would attract people to visit the city, as I am sure there must be places, but they are not that widely known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 (edited) If you are going to post something, then at least get your facts straight, please. Hydra Properties are not going to have anything to do with the funding for the takeover, as it is a totally different company that is at the front of the takeover. The other thing, is that you could not fill the Dell a lot of the time when you were in the top flight, but you managed to get a lot higher attendances at St Marys. The reason is that at Fratton Park, you have to book tickets weeks in advance, so we are not able to get the impulse fan that thinks they would like to go to the football today, as you cannot pay on the day. If a new 35 or 40,000 stadium was built in Portsmouth then the same situation would happen as it did with you and St Marys. The other thing is, the ticket prices will come down to help fill the stadium, as the only reason the prices at Fratton Park are so expensive is it is so bloody small. The other thing, which is where you had the upper hand a few years ago, is that football fans in the surrounding areas, Fareham, Titchfield, Locks Heath, Hedge End etc... if they want to go and watch a football match, they will now choose the Premier League team, as they did with you when you were there, but they will now come and watch us, which is exactly how your fan base grew, but it will now happen to us, should we build a lot bigger stadium. The other thing is, and I am not turning this in to a slanging match, as I am old enough now to go beyond that, but as a tourist Portsmouth offers a lot more than Southampton does as a city. Portsmouth has the Historic Dockyard with HMS Victory, The Warrior and the Mary Rose, The Tower and Gunwharf, the beach might not be the best, but it is still there, as that is to name just a few things. The thing is and please correct me, but I cannot think of many things or places that Southampton has that would attract people to visit the city, as I am sure there must be places, but they are not that widely known. 1995 - 18th Championship - ave att 8,269 1996 - 21st Championship - ave att 9,407 1997 - 7th Championship - ave att 8,854 LOL, that's comparible to AFC Bournemouth in LEAGUE 1. The funny thing is that those are your average league attendances, **** knows what your lowest gate was in those seasons! Edited 29 May, 2009 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Unlike Arthur Conan Doyle' date=' born in Southsea.[/quote'] ..buried down the road at Minstead, lovely graveyard. Initially he was buried 'stood up' I believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Fratton will apparently have gold plated toilet seats in the biggest ****-hole in all the leagues. brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresRory Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 1995 - 18th Championship - ave att 8,269 1996 - 21st Championship - ave att 9,407 1997 - 7th Championship - ave att 8,854 LOL, that's comparible to AFC Bournemouth in LEAGUE 1. The funny thing is that those are your average league attendances, **** knows what your lowest gate was in those seasons! Pompey had been in the wilderness for 40 odd years. Recent experience shows that a Southampton fan has a half life of approximately five years. Therefore if you are unfortunate enought to have 40 years of dross you can expect to be averaging around 125! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 If you are going to post something, then at least get your facts straight, please... The other thing, is that you could not fill the Dell a lot of the time when you were in the top flight, but you managed to get a lot higher attendances at St Marys. The reason is that at Fratton Park, you have to book tickets weeks in advance, so we are not able to get the impulse fan that thinks they would like to go to the football today, as you cannot pay on the day... But...at the Dell the away section couldn't be moved. The Dell held 15,000 - 1700 for aways - if the visitors only bought a couple of hundred the remaining seats were left unsold as one set of turnstiles/toilets serviced that entire area. Unlike at fartton where you move the barrier according to how many away fans and put on sale the remainder to home fans - which you then struggle to sell hence all those blue seats with a sprinkling of blue shirts on them. We've got 2 skates at work, one lives a 5 minute walk from fartton but always has an excuse why he can't go, the other is an "impulse fan" as he's recently moved down here for the job and has no trouble getting tickets last minute. Facts. Straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The other thing is, and I am not turning this in to a slanging match, as I am old enough now to go beyond that, but as a tourist Portsmouth offers a lot more than Southampton does as a city. Portsmouth has the Historic Dockyard with HMS Victory, The Warrior and the Mary Rose, The Tower and Gunwharf, the beach might not be the best, but it is still there, as that is to name just a few things. The thing is and please correct me, but I cannot think of many things or places that Southampton has that would attract people to visit the city, as I am sure there must be places, but they are not that widely known. This is fair enough Dino M but due to the navy scroats brought into the area many moons ago from across the nation, it also attracted some real minging women to the area, and god some of the women in skatesville are real *****rs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Oh and the Unvirsity of Portsmouth Diving Club are up here in Orkney an one or two of them are not exactly hot totty, but there again some of the women up here are not hot totty either:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 I think that it is time to draw a line on all those new arrivals from the blue part of Hampshire all of a sudden finding this to be a far better forum than their own one for some reason and ban them. Up until comparatively recently, the glory years for the Skates were around the time of my birth, 60 years ago. Until recently, we had been in the top flight of English football since around the time of my son's birth, 28 years ago. Fortunes of the two clubs have changed because we gained a chairman worth 2/6p because his titchy retirement home company took over the club under dodgey circumstances, whereas you lot gained a succession of dodgey multi-millionaires who bought you success. The wheel could easily turn full circle again within a few years. In the meantime, bugger off back to your own forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 All I have ever associated Portsmouth with is going to the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Wes,,,,Wes theres no need to get all arsey over it.;-) We are sitting pretty in the prem,,,,you have slipped into the Abyss called Div 3. No big deal, We have been there know what its like, 20 years ago Southampton was the forward looking City with the main attractions, That is no longer the case, Portsmouth has regenerated many parts of the city a project which is not Even half finished, But we are already the better attraction, You have a modern Prem stadium, We have a 3rd div shyt hole, But its all ours and unlike you will not send us into administration, You have first class training setup,,,,We rent a field from a school;-) I know its sh*t. For the 3rd time in 10 years We have fell in sh*t and come out covered in Gold:D,,,,That must relay p*s you bastards off!:cool: Still you drooped into the smelly stuff and with luck Le Nasal and his gang will sort you out. Now we come to the Web sites.........Wes This site with its different and entertaining forums is miles better than anything we have, That is why allot of us (the blue few) are Full members , Not only that iff it do go TiTs up hear just think of all the gloating rights you get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 (edited) Wes,,,,Wes theres no need to get all arsey over it.;-) We are sitting pretty in the prem,,,,you have slipped into the Abyss called Div 3. No big deal, We have been there know what its like, 20 years ago Southampton was the forward looking City with the main attractions, That is no longer the case, Portsmouth has regenerated many parts of the city a project which is not Even half finished, But we are already the better attraction, You have a modern Prem stadium, We have a 3rd div shyt hole, But its all ours and unlike you will not send us into administration, It is all ours now...........joy of joys!!! You have first class training setup Correct.............lol ,,,,We rent a field from a school;-) I know its sh*t. For the 3rd time in 10 years We have fell in sh*t and come out covered in Gold:D,,,,That must relay p*s you bastards off!:cool: Still you drooped into the smelly stuff and with luck Le Nasal and his gang will sort you out. Now we come to the Web sites.........Wes This site with its different and entertaining forums is miles better than anything we have, That is why allot of us (the blue few) are Full members , Not only that iff it do go TiTs up hear just think of all the gloating rights you get We have bottomed out methinks.........the only way is up. Edited 30 May, 2009 by Gingeletiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 30 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Wes,,,,Wes theres no need to get all arsey over it.;-) We are sitting pretty in the prem,,,,you have slipped into the Abyss called Div 3. No big deal, We have been there know what its like, 20 years ago Southampton was the forward looking City with the main attractions, That is no longer the case, Portsmouth has regenerated many parts of the city a project which is not Even half finished, But we are already the better attraction, You have a modern Prem stadium, We have a 3rd div shyt hole, But its all ours and unlike you will not send us into administration, You have first class training setup,,,,We rent a field from a school;-) I know its sh*t. For the 3rd time in 10 years We have fell in sh*t and come out covered in Gold:D,,,,That must relay p*s you bastards off!:cool: Still you drooped into the smelly stuff and with luck Le Nasal and his gang will sort you out. Now we come to the Web sites.........Wes This site with its different and entertaining forums is miles better than anything we have, That is why allot of us (the blue few) are Full members , Not only that iff it do go TiTs up hear just think of all the gloating rights you get Never thought I'd say this about a Skate post, but I quite enjoyed this! Anyway, we hopefully now have our own multi-millionaire (okay, not a billionairre) owner, and a club legend at the helm, and that will do for me - we'll see you in a couple of seasons as we pass you again, on our way to our righful place in the elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 ..buried down the road at Minstead, lovely graveyard. Initially he was buried 'stood up' I believe!He lived in a house called Bignall Wood near Brawshaw.It has recently been taken over and renovated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Nope. Sorry but that just won't wash. This was billed as a 'save the saints' event, and as such if there was really, really any true feeling about your club, it SHOULD have sold out. It didn't. Not only did it not sell out, sales didn't top 1500. Even if you couldn't stand another 90 minutes of dross at SMS with all the crap on the pitch and off it, if you really cared, you'd buy a ticket and just throw it in the bin if you couldn't actually face being there. As for being 'proud of Saints fans for turning their backs on it', that just speaks volumes about how far you're prepared to go to save your club. When the SOS Pompey campaign was started in 1976 I gave my 60p a week pocket money to it every week until the campaign finished. It amounted to just a few pounds. A pathetic gesture in many ways, but one of many, many thousands of similar gestures that showed that we cared and incredibly ended up actually raising the 25k we needed to stave off bankruptcy..... Because bankrupt football clubs in 1976 we running at the same kind of losses that we were/are, were they? 8,000 gates season in, season out in the second tier LOL, we'll **** all over that in League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Because bankrupt football clubs in 1976 we running at the same kind of losses that we were/are, were they? 8,000 gates season in, season out in the second tier LOL, we'll **** all over that in League One. 1500 for a 'save the saints' match that had to be called off. 'Pot' and 'kettle' are two words that come to mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 1500 for a 'save the saints' match that had to be called off. 'Pot' and 'kettle' are two words that come to mind.... It wasn't advertised properly, no one knew who the legends appearing were, it was overpriced and most sensible people knew it would make zero difference to the final outcome (and so it has proved.) People aren't stupid, they aren't going to give 20 quid of their hard earned money in a recession when the likelihood is it will make no difference to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 1500 for a 'save the saints' match that had to be called off. 'Pot' and 'kettle' are two words that come to mind.... Furthermore, in addition to Hypochondriac's point, at the time of the initial announcement of the administration, there were over 30 groups or individuals who had expressed interest in buying the club. Those were whittled down to 3 or 4. Many may well have felt that one or other of those were likely to buy us and so it proved. So your point about this fund raising initiative is actually quite pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Wes,,,,Wes theres no need to get all arsey over it.;-) We are sitting pretty in the prem,,,,you have slipped into the Abyss called Div 3. No big deal, We have been there know what its like, 20 years ago Southampton was the forward looking City with the main attractions, That is no longer the case, Portsmouth has regenerated many parts of the city a project which is not Even half finished, But we are already the better attraction, You have a modern Prem stadium, We have a 3rd div shyt hole, But its all ours and unlike you will not send us into administration, You have first class training setup,,,,We rent a field from a school;-) I know its sh*t. For the 3rd time in 10 years We have fell in sh*t and come out covered in Gold:D,,,,That must relay p*s you bastards off!:cool: Still you drooped into the smelly stuff and with luck Le Nasal and his gang will sort you out. Now we come to the Web sites.........Wes This site with its different and entertaining forums is miles better than anything we have, That is why allot of us (the blue few) are Full members , Not only that iff it do go TiTs up hear just think of all the gloating rights you get For a Skate you seem like a reasonable, sensible guy ! Were you switched at birth by any chance ? Anyway, FWIW I appreciate the odd Skate intervention just to keep us on our toes (as long as it doesn't get like the Ugly Inside where it is constant vitriol!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 For a Skate you seem like a reasonable, sensible guy ! Were you switched at birth by any chance ? Anyway, FWIW I appreciate the odd Skate intervention just to keep us on our toes (as long as it doesn't get like the Ugly Inside where it is constant vitriol!). Actually, most of us are decent enough- I'd be happy to meet up for a beer with any of you sensible guys the next time we play each other. I suppose at the end of the day we all love football, it's just that we follow different clubs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 That sums it up perfectly in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 8,000 gates season in, season out in the second tier LOL, we'll **** all over that in League One. Given that in just a couple of years outside the top flight your gates fell by 60% or more I don't know what you're gloating about. If you were in the same financial position we were for years back then how long do you think it would have been before your gates fell to that level? Interestingly, we were getting gates as big as you when we were in the old Div 4 in our promotion season and you were in the top flight :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Given that in just a couple of years outside the top flight your gates fell by 60% or more I don't know what you're gloating about. If you were in the same financial position we were for years back then how long do you think it would have been before your gates fell to that level? Interestingly, we were getting gates as big as you when we were in the old Div 4 in our promotion season and you were in the top flight :cool: "...fell by 60%"...but our gates (with all our problems, in a lower league) still stand up against yours (and far exceed at times) even when you've enjoyed success previously unknown by the vast majority of your 'fans'. And maybe if a few more of you had turned up when you were in our shadow you wouldn't have been in that "financial position". Pah, glory hunters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I don't really care about any of this any longer since the events of the past few days. It was only to be expected that various of the blue few would come on here to have a good gloat at how they were in the process of attracting their fourth money man while we went seemingly towards bankruptcy. But now we seem to have attracted our own takeover finally by somebody with a few spare bob to spend on us, I'm not too concerned at what goes on down the road. As it stands at the moment, both deals could go belly up. But as far as I'm concerned, there is far more likelihood that in the medium term, the Skates buyer is the more likely one to lose interest in them, compared to our new owner. It's all very well him thinking that he can build a new stadium and increase attendances to make it all more financially viable to what it is at the moment, but if we progress upwards ourselves, he will not be taking fans away from us and what would his feelings towards the city be if the local council veto his stadium or other development plans? And anyway, aside from the comparisons between the two clubs, it remains a fact that it is still a far better proposition living in Southampton when one compares quality of life in the two places. The best view of Portsmouth still remains the one from your rear view mirror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It's sounding more and more like one of your ex managers Harry Redknapp is coming back to us. This won't be very popular with some so you may pick up a few malcontents from us. Jamie said his Dad's greatest affection was for Pompey where he was at his happiest. The News understands he has his supporters within the Fratton Park set up Some directors at spurs don't like his forthright style. Should we welcome him back or have you got any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It's sounding more and more like one of your ex managers Harry Redknapp is coming back to us. This won't be very popular with some so you may pick up a few malcontents from us. Jamie said his Dad's greatest affection was for Pompey where he was at his happiest. The News understands he has his supporters within the Fratton Park set up Some directors at spurs don't like his forthright style. Should we welcome him back or have you got any suggestions? Oh course he wants to come back....he has seen £ signs in your new/latest prospective owner. Another mercenary SGE, has now said he would love to manage you, last year he laughed at the suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 "...fell by 60%"...but our gates (with all our problems, in a lower league) still stand up against yours (and far exceed at times) even when you've enjoyed success previously unknown by the vast majority of your 'fans'. And maybe if a few more of you had turned up when you were in our shadow you wouldn't have been in that "financial position". Pah, glory hunters Glory hunters - LOL. How you have the gall to call our fans glory hunters when more than 50% of your fan base has deserted you in a couple of years since you fell from the Prem is beyond belief. We spent years outside the top flight with minimal investment and saw the club nearly go out of existence a number of times. Is it any wonder that fans got disillusioned and stopped going to games? Here's the universal football equation - relatively successful and fans go to games. The clubs fortunes decline and fans stop going to games. You're no different to us. If you spent as long as we did with as little investment you'd be getting four figure crowds too. Face it, you're not far off now. For what it's worth, apart from the three seasons when our average gates fell below 10,000 (due to Martin gergory raping the club for every asset he could) our average attendances even when we were back in the fourth division were between 13,000 and 15,000. Not so different from yours last year. I But as far as I'm concerned, there is far more likelihood that in the medium term, the Skates buyer is the more likely one to lose interest in them, compared to our new owner. It's all very well him thinking that he can build a new stadium and increase attendances to make it all more financially viable to what it is at the moment, but if we progress upwards ourselves, he will not be taking fans away from us and what would his feelings towards the city be if the local council veto his stadium or other development plans? And anyway, aside from the comparisons between the two clubs, it remains a fact that it is still a far better proposition living in Southampton when one compares quality of life in the two places. The best view of Portsmouth still remains the one from your rear view mirror 1. How do you draw the conclusion that our potential new owner is more likely to lose interest than yours when the actual identity of yours isn't even common knowledge yet? PMSL 2. The council have never vetoed any stadium plans. Any decision has been made by the government (the site at Farlington) or as a result of MOD concerns (the stadium at The Hard). 3. The qulity of life in Southampton better than Portsmouth? LOL. In what way. You have a better shopping mall and that's about it. Property prices are almost identical, average incomes ditto. Both are typical medium sized UK cities with the same problems and both have good and bad points. The view on here that Southampton is some sort of paradise when you have Godforsaken areas like Lordshill, Thornhill and some of your other council estates (which are just as bad as anything Portsmouth has to offer) is laughable. Get over yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Nope. Sorry but that just won't wash. This was billed as a 'save the saints' event, and as such if there was really, really any true feeling about your club, it SHOULD have sold out. It didn't. Not only did it not sell out, sales didn't top 1500. Even if you couldn't stand another 90 minutes of dross at SMS with all the crap on the pitch and off it, if you really cared, you'd buy a ticket and just throw it in the bin if you couldn't actually face being there. As for being 'proud of Saints fans for turning their backs on it', that just speaks volumes about how far you're prepared to go to save your club. When the SOS Pompey campaign was started in 1976 I gave my 60p a week pocket money to it every week until the campaign finished. It amounted to just a few pounds. A pathetic gesture in many ways, but one of many, many thousands of similar gestures that showed that we cared and incredibly ended up actually raising the 25k we needed to stave off bankruptcy..... 60p you should have complained thats well below what the minimum wage you should have been on then - even in the third world area of Poopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 "Here's the universal football equation - relatively successful and fans go to games. The clubs fortunes decline and fans stop going to games. You're no different to us." Er...yes we are. Relatively successful and we filled our ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 1500 for a 'save the saints' match that had to be called off. 'Pot' and 'kettle' are two words that come to mind.... I seemd to have missed your reply to the question around the attendance at the Kanu game following the biggest win in your recent history. Maybe you could compare it to Mick Channon's game days after our FA Cup vicory ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I seemd to have missed your reply to the question around the attendance at the Kanu game following the biggest win in your recent history. Maybe you could compare it to Mick Channon's game days after our FA Cup vicory ;-) Different sort of game in a different era at different prices even allowing for inflation. I get the feeling we're not exactly as one on this one are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callysaint76 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The fact you portsmouth fans are on here highlights how much of an inferiority complex you have. You know that you will never truely be the 'bigger' club. You may have won the FA Cup with your african XI but none of those are real Skates and now you have sold your footballing soul to a rich arab. I would much rather support a proper club, real fans, players that have come up through the academy than support a bunch of money grabbing journeymen, playing in a sh*thole of a stadium in a city filled with munters and that stinks of fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 However, if you want to get picky, Pompey ALWAYS finishes 1 or 2 places above southampton in best places to live surveys. Not seen that. Can you link to one before this becomes another urban myth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Not seen that. Can you link to one before this becomes another urban myth? It is true, but I would ignore any survery that puts EASTLEIGH in the top ten places to live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It is true, but I would ignore any survery that puts EASTLEIGH in the top ten places to live! You might be right but I've spent 10 mins googling best cities in UK and can't find a single example. He has quoted surveys - I'd like to see one that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The fact you portsmouth fans are on here highlights how much of an inferiority complex you have. You know that you will never truely be the 'bigger' club. You may have won the FA Cup with your african XI but none of those are real Skates and now you have sold your footballing soul to a rich arab. I would much rather support a proper club, real fans, players that have come up through the academy than support a bunch of money grabbing journeymen, playing in a sh*thole of a stadium in a city filled with munters and that stinks of fish. Not too zenophobic Curly? Isn't that Andrew Surnam you grew at your academy an African? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The qulity of life in Southampton better than Portsmouth? LOL. In what way. You have a better shopping mall and that's about it. Property prices are almost identical, average incomes ditto. Both are typical medium sized UK cities with the same problems and both have good and bad points. The view on here that Southampton is some sort of paradise when you have Godforsaken areas like Lordshill, Thornhill and some of your other council estates (which are just as bad as anything Portsmouth has to offer) is laughable. Get over yourselves I have lived in both places and so am therefore qualified to express an opinion. Have you? My mother still loves in Southsea and I visit Portsmouth often to see her and to visit clients of my business, several of whom are in Portsmouth and the immediate surrounding areas. I probably know both areas better than most people from a perspective spanning nearly 60 years. If you reckon that we have anything quite so dire as Paulsgrove and Leigh Park, it is you who is delusional. I am not talking about just shops, or about specific things, but about the quality of life that embraces all of those aspects, including the surrounding hinterland, crime levels, infrastrucure, local education, community facilities, everything. I'll reiterate; take away Southsea and Old Portsmouth and the rest of your little island is a complete hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 3. The qulity of life in Southampton better than Portsmouth? LOL. In what way. You have a better shopping mall and that's about it. Does'nt that answer your own question? LOL quilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It is true, but I would ignore any survery that puts EASTLEIGH in the top ten places to live! That depends on whether you mean Eastleigh Borough, or Eastleigh Town. The Borough has many lovely places in it, such as Hamble, Hedge End, West End, Botley, Chandlers Ford, etc. There are pretty country parks, good infrastructure for jobs, proximity to Winchester and Southampton, its Airport, the Rose Bowl and tennis centre, Fleming Park Sports centre, etc. Even Eastleigh town isn't too bad nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyInReading Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Just thought I would put together some opinions to try to settle the Pompey is better than Southampton argument: The Cities Population - Saints win Average Income - Saints win Average House price - Saints win Visiting Toursist - Portsmouth win (Surely?????) Best Place to live - who knows, and frankly, who cares I live in Reading and its a hole The Football Current Position - Portsmouth win Old Stadia (Like for Like) - Portsmouth win New Stadia (Like for Like) - Who knows? Say, Saints win though just to be fair Facilities (Like for Like) - Cant really compare New with Old but if you insist - Saints win Attendances - Portsmouth win (All time Ave 17,780 versus 17,214) Attendance as % of Population - Portsmouth win Silverware - Portsmouth win, by some distance Time spent in top flight - Portsmouth currently win by 1 season. Am prepared to be corrected as some sources seem to suggest its even. Cant really think of anything else, but to summarise: Southampton is a nicer place to live, but Portsmouth is prob better for a visit. Football wise, its pretty much hands down Portsmouth - apart from bricks and mortar and that really has nothing to do with football anyway imo. Who knows that will most likely change in the next ten years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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