Master Bates Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Actually quite a few short sighted 'fans' on this site wanted administration...... Oi! I'm short sighted and I didn't want admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Hopefully it will be to inform the staff that the takeover is now here and a promise all wages will be paid in full....More prayers required. I do hope so, but for the first time I really feel it is gone, no leaks have come out that indeed we have been saved and of course Fry has to announce to the staff first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Seems like there may be some good points in there - I just could understand any of it. Translation please. Could or couldn't ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 My fear is that the financial institutional creditors would rather see us go out of business to set an example to other poorly run clubs. The biggest irony in that statement being that until relegation from teh prem we were held as a first class example to other clubs of how a club should be run financially as we were one of only a handful that 'lived within our means' - the loss of the SKY money fecked us because despite teh relegation clauses in contracts, unless promoted these were still going to be unsustainable after the loss of the parachute - which did not cover them anyway which is wher the Walcot/Jones money went - Wilde made his promse so money was spent that we did not have which obviously added to the problems when not promoted, BUT the real issue is that the FA/FL let this happen the moment they let teh prem clubs go and that financial gap start to grow... and we were part of that process so have to take part of that blame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 So, the staff are being called in to a meeting at 12.00pm today. And some of you here 'expect' to have found out what was said in the meeting BEFORE it even happened!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 So, the staff are being called in to a meeting at 12.00pm today. And some of you here 'expect' to have found out what was said in the meeting BEFORE it even happened!!! Dont be daft WSS. Leaks of whether somebody has in fact got an agreement in place or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Could or couldn't ?lol - defo "couldn't". Could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 So, the staff are being called in to a meeting at 12.00pm today. And some of you here 'expect' to have found out what was said in the meeting BEFORE it even happened!!!I wonder if any of the staff post on here or know somebody that does. Presumably Nickh got this info from somewhere and not from his tea leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Redondo.....About six or seven wanted admin and did the real Saints fans amongst them really mean it... Admin was always on the cards regardless of a few stayaway fans..... It is a really silly argument to blame a few posters for making admin a means of wanting Rupert gone. Hoping and praying we are bought out and all staff paid up to date today. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I wonder if any of the staff post on here or know somebody that does. Presumably Nickh got this info from somewhere and not from his tea leaves. I'm assuming that Nick's 'source' is a member of staff. I still can't work out why he is so upset that his source hasn't given him any info BEFORE they've attended the meeting!! FWIW one of my employees has a brother in law that works at SMS and they were called in to a meeting on Tuesday. I guess they discussed a new way of working or something, because they certainly didn't discuss buyers of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I wonder if a news flash will coincide with the meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I'm assuming that Nick's 'source' is a member of staff. I still can't work out why he is so upset that his source hasn't given him any info BEFORE they've attended the meeting!! FWIW one of my employees has a brother in law that works at SMS and they were called in to a meeting on Tuesday. I guess they discussed a new way of working or something, because they certainly didn't discuss buyers of the club I get news from more than 1 person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Wages not paid and have been called in for a meeting. There are some very unhappy employees, as they have standing orders etc(staff) that have bounced. Called into a meeting today midday. Lets hope the news they hear is not too bad. lets hope they get paid,terrible position for them to be in for them and their familys,they arethe real victims in this sorry saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I get news from more than 1 person.Are any of them staff and are any of them likely to tell you the outcome of the aforementioned midday meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 12 news and nothing mentioned. All gone very quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Are any of them staff and are any of them likely to tell you the outcome of the aforementioned midday meeting? I expect to hear a summary. Im not sure I want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Oi! I'm short sighted and I didn't want admin. i,m with you and feel for the staff at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I expect to hear a summary. Im not sure I want to. Do you expect to hear said summary before or after the meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Seems like there may be some good points in there - I just couldn't understand any of it. Translation please. I am glad you think there were some good points....enjoy those and don't worry about what you could not understand....;-) Translation.......We are in the SCHITT and maybe we are really in DEEP SCHITT...even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I expect to hear a summary. Im not sure I want to.Of course you want to. Sad thing is that I was chucking money around at Save our Saints under the naive assumption that the money raised would avoid something like this. I guess the timing was just not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Do you expect to hear said summary before or after the meeting?It depends whether Mark Fry wants to give me a call out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 This is very sad. But unfortunately not unexpected. Many of us fans became became very clever in our statements about not wanting to pay the players wages and forgot about the 100+ other employees. I repeat what I said yesterday on numerous occassions. I am VERY worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 It depends whether Mark Fry wants to give me a call out of the blue. I'm sure you're on his list of important people to call first. Do you think Wacko Jacko is above or below you on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 it is not a day for those arguements. I will hold my counsel on this occasion.I feel pretty worried. If we dont hear very soon, the club is gone. I expected a small leak of good news by now but nothing. ITK.........not ITK.......ITK........not ITK.....Make your mind up. Have you no more 'secrets' you are sworn not to share, or as others on here, just a 'look at me' type of personality?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 How long is the meeting scheduled to last? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 How long is the meeting scheduled to last? Thanks 7 hours :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 It depends whether Mark Fry wants to give me a call out of the blue. Are you Ken Tointon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 anyone think it is worth hanging around? Could some sort of news really actually materialise (even if it is bad) in the next hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 How long is the meeting scheduled to last? Thanks Should only take a minute to say "Hi ladies and gentleman, you're all being made redundant, you can go home now". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2009 ITK.........not ITK.......ITK........not ITK.....Make your mind up. Have you no more 'secrets' you are sworn not to share, or as others on here, just a 'look at me' type of personality?? Well is there a meeting? Time will tell.I had hoped you had put me on ignore. Dont bother reading my posts , frankly this site will be finished very soon anyway if the news is bad. As for having integrity, it is a trait Im not sad to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 This is a significant point. Next 24 hours are very crucial ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 How long is the meeting scheduled to last? Thanks It was scheduled to start at 09:30 this morning. It was planned to make one of two announcements. It was delayed until 12:00 But not to worry, we were too busy making stupid jokes about spelling and stuff to notice that something was very wrong yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 How long is the meeting scheduled to last? Thanks 48 hours? Has to include a Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 This is a significant point. Next 24 hours are very crucial !Why are the next 24 hours any more crucial than the next 48 hours, or the next 2.655 hours? Or do you just like posting clichés? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 But not to worry, we were too busy making stupid jokes about spelling and stuff to notice that something was very wrong yesterday I don't think everyone was...many people were reading your warnings and when I heard that nothing was being announced after all yesterday that set warning bells for me. I think we are stuffed. Great day yesterday skates get a rich sheik, Hants lose by 1 run and our alleged buyers cannot come up with the cash and seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 It was scheduled to start at 09:30 this morning. It was planned to make one of two announcements. It was delayed until 12:00 But not to worry, we were too busy making stupid jokes about spelling and stuff to notice that something was very wrong yesterdayHow do you know? I was interested to read in todays Echo article that the Irish bidders had alledgedly pulled out yesterday, but then alluded to them changing their minds. Whatever happened yesterday, surely it would have been too late to have an impact on the wages today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 It was scheduled to start at 09:30 this morning. It was planned to make one of two announcements. It was delayed until 12:00 But not to worry, we were too busy making stupid jokes about spelling and stuff to notice that something was very wrong yesterday This sounds dreddful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Question > is our place in League One DIRECTLY under threat from the results of todays meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Question > is our place in League One DIRECTLY under threat from the results of todays meeting?If the meeting is to say that SFC has been wound up then what do you think? Who knows, maybe it is just to tell them that they are changing their coffee supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 It was scheduled to start at 09:30 this morning. It was planned to make one of two announcements. It was delayed until 12:00 But not to worry, we were too busy making stupid jokes about spelling and stuff to notice that something was very wrong yesterday The problem is that none of us can influence the outcome of this mess in any way shape or form. I am not going to stress out about something I that I have no control over. It is a British trait to joke in the face of adversity rather than pulling our hair out and wringing our hands (not at the same time obviously!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I don't think everyone was...many people were reading your warnings and when I heard that nothing was being announced after all yesterday that set warning bells for me. I think we are stuffed. Great day yesterday skates get a rich sheik, Hants lose by 1 run and our alleged buyers cannot come up with the cash and seal the deal. Thanks mate, the last few days have been incredibly stressful, and unfortunately it all comes down to two things have happened either one Essex Boy/egotistical idiot gambled AGAIN with our club in the last 6 days OR an extremely suspicious course of events. But your last line is not correct, it is, and always has been, about the terms and conditions and the attitude in which those are negotiated or should I say imposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Is this admin / support staff? Are player wages taking precedence over support staff? They always are as a creditor sadly. I agree with Adrian, its the real staff that suffer the consequences of the last 5 years gross mismanagement. It amazes me that players and other football clubs get total priority. Perhaps if they didn't, it might act as a brake on the most stupid risk-taking and gambling from clubs, players and their agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I've looked on Google street view and there's no cars in the car park - I think the meeting's finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 I've looked on Google street view and there's no cars in the car park - I think the meeting's finished. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 It was scheduled to start at 09:30 this morning. It was planned to make one of two announcements. It was delayed until 12:00 But not to worry, we were too busy making stupid jokes about spelling and stuff to notice that something was very wrong yesterday Sorry> I was too busy reading the Echo and the numerous ITK on here that we were being saved by the Irish. Oh and Pinacle were still in with a shout. How the hell are we "mere mortals " supposed to know something was wrong? Like most on here I follow SSN and I've even started listening to Solent and Radio Hampshire news bulletins on the hour and guess what? Nothing. Nada. Diddlysquat. So until something DEFINITE comes along, please allow me and the others, some small irreverant fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 nick no fan really wanted admin...but we were heading that way and the way it was going Rupert never was the saviour.Should have shown humility and joined forces or the like...The absent fans would have been absolutely minimal....We can all blame a lot of different causes...But I repeat Ruperty once his make a sell a player was not working from early meant we was doomed....Even around xmas he had no plan B really and none of his consortium dipped their hands in their own pockets...For a big consortium..Ruperts Mob...very strange. Not blaming anyone now....But this started back in the old days when we did not even begin paying off the stadium.:mad:. Takeover....Let us hope pinacle/Souness/Anderson, Gregg or whoever get it sorted quick....I believe there are skeletons and even some creditors are our old mob...Something wrong that deters prospective buyers and always has been....Maybe we will end up with more train pictures and Pete Watermans miniture (sorry for spellin) railway running around the stadium..would please some. Crouch money has helped a great deal..possibly players wages...But many staff not paid particularly ancillary staff/part time etc..not April or May YET. Taleover now PLEASE. How much has Crouch actually given? because from what I am hearing it does not come near the total required. Still generous I accept but the story we keep getting painted by the leaks is nothing like the real thing. Take into account the damage Crouch has caused and he does not even wipe out a fraction of what he has caused. Hone got directors to sign off upon player acquisitions because the money was not there. Something Crouch strongly denied when he got rid of them. It's ok saying you were against the signing of Euell, but when you agree to it in the end followed by further far higher expenditure, what exactly is the point? We then have the infamous "turkey required to vote for christmas" on the back of a £2M note. Certainly got the practical aspects to negotiation down to a fine point. Crouch is an idiot, doing more damage than good from what he has given. Have you even bought an ECHO, let alone a ticket at St Mary's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Redondo.....About six or seven wanted admin and did the real Saints fans amongst them really mean it... Admin was always on the cards regardless of a few stayaway fans..... It is a really silly argument to blame a few posters for making admin a means of wanting Rupert gone. Hoping and praying we are bought out and all staff paid up to date today. COYRs I am not blaming any posters for our predicament. I only commment that some people are crazy to have wanted admin regardless of RL or anyone else. Admin is bad news all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 How much has Crouch actually given? because from what I am hearing it does not come near the total required. Still generous I accept but the story we keep getting painted by the leaks is nothing like the real thing. Take into account the damage Crouch has caused and he does not even wipe out a fraction of what he has caused. Hone got directors to sign off upon player acquisitions because the money was not there. Something Crouch strongly denied when he got rid of them. It's ok saying you were against the signing of Euell, but when you agree to it in the end followed by further far higher expenditure, what exactly is the point? We then have the infamous "turkey required to vote for christmas" on the back of a £2M note. Certainly got the practical aspects to negotiation down to a fine point. Crouch is an idiot, doing more damage than good from what he has given. Have you even bought an ECHO, let alone a ticket at St Mary's? It was so good getting away from "The Blame Game" for the last few days as well! Oh Dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Well is there a meeting? Time will tell.I had hoped you had put me on ignore. Dont bother reading my posts , frankly this site will be finished very soon anyway if the news is bad. As for having integrity, it is a trait Im not sad to have. Why??.........you're my 'laugh a day' man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 28 May, 2009 Share Posted 28 May, 2009 Oi! I'm short sighted and I didn't want admin. Is that to do with your user name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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