Arizona Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 I think I speak for several people on here when I say, "come on Villa/Sunderland/Hull" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 I want the barcodes to go down so bad i cannot describe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Boro gone then. Hull not looking great. I reckon Newcastle might do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 So far so good, Villa leading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 But as I speak Newcastle 1 down! Big Lol if they get relegated even if it's only for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Boro gone then. Hull not looking great. I reckon Newcastle might do it. Boro back in it? Of the three I like them most for some reason, not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Boro back in it? Of the three I like them most for some reason, not sure why. I do too. I think they'll go down. I dislike Newcastle and Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Lol. Boro no chance now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Boro to be in League One in two seasons? I wouldn't be surprised if that Gibson guy gives up. Rumours in the Netherlands are that Boro are having trouble paying the installments for Afonso Alves and that they have to sell him at a knockdown price to Benfica to pay the last installment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 It annoys me that mickey mouse clubs like Boro get a rich benefactor whilst proper clubs like saints get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 lol at the Toon if they go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Toon going down. Loledy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 24 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Yes!!!!!!!!!! :D:D Down they go. Enjoy your trip to Glanford Park!!!!! I know Saints and all that but :lol::lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Now, they will do a Leeds;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Boro and Barcodes it is then. Newcastle is probably the only team in the whole football league that has had worse management then Saints. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Michael Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 lolololololololololol!!!!!!! To be fair, Newcastle didn't even put up a fight today. Don't think it's a given that they'll come straight back up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 24 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Anyone remember a thread on a seperate forum a few years ago when Leeds got relegated to League 1? It said something like, 'post the name of your club here if you're glad Leeds went down' Went on to a multi-page list with about 90% of the clubs in the football league mentioned at least once, as well as a handful of none-league clubs, several continental clubs and even a few like Red Dragons, Boca Juniors and DC United. Wonder if the Barcodes will get a similar reception. I know a couple of delighted Villa fans at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Seriously, why did the Newcastle management think that appointing a completely unproved manager in the form of Shearer to keep them in the Prem was a good idea? Just another reason why they deserve to go down this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 It annoys me that mickey mouse clubs like Boro get a rich benefactor whilst proper clubs like saints get nothing. Middlesbrough founded 1876 Saints founded 1885 Hardly Mickey Mouse. Now if you were talking about Wigan [founded 1932], I could possibly agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 There's been something seriously amiss at Newcastle Utd for years. They're a so-called big club who continue to flatter to deceive. They have all the infrastructure, it seems, and yet they employ alsoran players, or other top clubs cast offs, and make managerial appointments that are almost embarrassing. They should be top 6 every season, yet manage to badly under perform. And when they do get their act together, they always manage to screw it up in the end. They should take lessons from Saints demise, otherwise they'll drop like a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Middlesbrough founded 1876 Saints founded 1885 Hardly Mickey Mouse. Now if you were talking about Wigan [founded 1932], I could possibly agree. Crap fans who get pathetic attendences even when in uefa cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 I hate the way so many fans take delight in the plight of a club like Newcastle. A lot of people seem to profess that all Newcastle fans think they have a divine right to be in the Premier League. Not true. They have excellent, humble support at home and away who love the club and support them no matter how drab their performances. Yes, their average home attendance has dropped this season to about 48,000 but thats still a hell of a large gate for a team serving up such poor performances. That club is rotton to the core and getting relegated this season is possibly the best thing that could happen to them. It's not their fault they were willing and have the means to pay their players handsomely, but a string of poor managers and poor decisions had seen them with a squad comprised by about 7 managers all with different ideas on personel and how the team should play. I honestly think they will walk the Championship next season. They will rid themselves of dead wood and mercenaries like Owen, Duff, Coloccini, Viduka etc... and be left with some decent young players, good experienced players and enough money to buy some players who will play for the club with pride, which is what they dont have enough of at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Middlesbrough founded 1876 Saints founded 1885 Hardly Mickey Mouse. Now if you were talking about Wigan [founded 1932], I could possibly agree. What's the year clubs were formed got to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 24 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 May, 2009 I hate the way so many fans take delight in the plight of a club like Newcastle. A lot of people seem to profess that all Newcastle fans think they have a divine right to be in the Premier League. Not true. They have excellent, humble support at home and away who love the club and support them no matter how drab their performances. Yes, their average home attendance has dropped this season to about 48,000 but thats still a hell of a large gate for a team serving up such poor performances. That club is rotton to the core and getting relegated this season is possibly the best thing that could happen to them. It's not their fault they were willing and have the means to pay their players handsomely, but a string of poor managers and poor decisions had seen them with a squad comprised by about 7 managers all with different ideas on personel and how the team should play. I honestly think they will walk the Championship next season. They will rid themselves of dead wood and mercenaries like Owen, Duff, Coloccini, Viduka etc... and be left with some decent young players, good experienced players and enough money to buy some players who will play for the club with pride, which is what they dont have enough of at the moment. Like we did you mean? I think Newcastle got their just desserts, simply because of how badly the club has been run. Terrbile managerial appointments and fans who fall out with them whenever it's not going their way. Appointing Roeder, getting rid of him when they were midtable. Keegan was a ridiculous appointment and always liable to walk out at the first hint of trouble. Shearer, a complete managerial novice and absolutely the last manager a club in a relegation fight needed. Alardyce, would have gotten them into Europe after a couple of years. Fans threw their toys out because they weren't playing pretty football. Souness, sacked when they certainly weren't in a relegation battle. Kinnear. Nobody's fault he left, but a crap appointment none the less. If anything, they deserve to go down for signing Barton. Hope nobody signs that tw*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 What's the year clubs were formed got to do with anything? Well the term Mickey Mouse, when applied to a football club, suggests that they have been around for 5 minutes and have had little on no success, or support during their short sporting life. Middlesbrough may not have had the most illustrious history, but they've been around for quite some time, have had a large loyal following in the past, and have achieved a bit of success in their years. Hardly Mickey Mouse. But I would have thought it obvious. Perhaps you just wanted the big explanation again..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Well the term Mickey Mouse, when applied to a football club, suggests that they have been around for 5 minutes and have had little on no success, or support during their short sporting life. Middlesbrough may not have had the most illustrious history, but they've been around for quite some time, have had a large loyal following in the past, and have achieved a bit of success in their years. Hardly Mickey Mouse. But I would have thought it obvious. Perhaps you just wanted the big explanation again..? That's not what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 That's not what I meant. Ah...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Your definition of mickey mouse is different to mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 (edited) Well the term Mickey Mouse, when applied to a football club, suggests that they have been around for 5 minutes and have had little on no success, or support during their short sporting life. Middlesbrough may not have had the most illustrious history, but they've been around for quite some time, have had a large loyal following in the past, and have achieved a bit of success in their years. Hardly Mickey Mouse. But I would have thought it obvious. Perhaps you just wanted the big explanation again..? What the ****? Mickey Mouse just means "shambolic" or "inconsequential" whatever its applied to, there is no special definition to be "applied to football clubs". Anyway, I came on this thread simply to say: The Toon have no relegation clauses in their players contracts. Arf. Edited 24 May, 2009 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Your definition of mickey mouse is different to mine. Obviously. Still don't think it applies to Boro, but I couldn't give a toss anyway. Don't give a toss about any football club except Saints, and they're fast managing to cure me of that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Newcastle wont come back up straight away. In fact , they are more likely to get relegated again. They have a midfield similar to ours. ie crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Newcastle wont come back up straight away. In fact , they are more likely to get relegated again. They have a midfield similar to ours. ie crap. What Toon do have is an owner who has splashed out vast sums of his own moneys chasing his dream, (which beggars belief why the northern monkeys would be calling for his head), What you had was a PLC board all with there snouts in the troff, If the man stays Toon will be the strongest side in the fizzy next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 I've got a Hull mate,so I'm glad they stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 24 May, 2009 Share Posted 24 May, 2009 Them and their perma-tanned manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 25 May, 2009 Share Posted 25 May, 2009 Like we did you mean? I think Newcastle got their just desserts, simply because of how badly the club has been run. Terrbile managerial appointments and fans who fall out with them whenever it's not going their way. Appointing Roeder, getting rid of him when they were midtable. Keegan was a ridiculous appointment and always liable to walk out at the first hint of trouble. Shearer, a complete managerial novice and absolutely the last manager a club in a relegation fight needed. Alardyce, would have gotten them into Europe after a couple of years. Fans threw their toys out because they weren't playing pretty football. Souness, sacked when they certainly weren't in a relegation battle. Kinnear. Nobody's fault he left, but a crap appointment none the less. If anything, they deserve to go down for signing Barton. Hope nobody signs that tw*t. When Glenn Roeder was manager Newcastle had a lot more dangerous players at their disposal. The likes of Kieron Dyer, Scott Parker, Emre all players who could spot a pass and provide that final ball which is what they have lacked this season. Contrary to what most people believe, Keegan was actually a very good appointment. He identifies with the Newcastle fans and actually had them playing very good football at the end of last season and beginning of this season. He left because he was undermined by that little scrote Dennis Wise. Any manager worth their salt would up an leave in the same situation and I dont blame Keegan for doing so. Shearer, like Keegan identifies with the Newcastle fans. He is a realist and knows things wont happen overnight with getting the club back to where they want to be but he knows how the fans want them to play and will be afforded the time to get things right due to his standing as a legend of the club. He is also reasonably smart and knows he was in a no lose situation. If Newcastle survived, he would have the clout to demand a huge transfer budget to overhall the squad and if they did get relegated would have a good few weeks to assess everything thats wrong with the club and address the issues. Whether Mike Ashley heeds his advice or hires another "yes man" such as Kinnear who is simply pleased to be there we will have to wait and see... Sam Allardyce was an awful manager for Newcastle. I have a large Geordie contingent in my family and actually watched a couple of Newcastle games under his leadership and they truly were awful. All their fans ask for is a team that show pride in the shirt, look as if they want to be there and play a simple passing brand of football. Under Allardyce they got none of those things. Players we disillusioned with the tactics, didnt put in a decent shift and hoofed the ball at every opportunity. Can you blame the fans turning on Allardyce if the players already had? I cant. As for Graeme Souness, he dismantled a perfectly good squad he inherited from Bobby Robson. Maybe not title contenders but comfortably a top 6 outfit. He seemed to make it his priority to fall out with Newcastle's most gifted, creative players such as Bellamy and Robert. He signed the likes of Amdy Faye, Jean-Alain Boumsong, Albert Luque and Michael Owen all on massive wages and involving huge transfer fees. All of those players best days were behind them, they clearly didnt want to be there and only signed for the money. Is that really the fans fault? I dont think so. Yes, Newcastle's manager list in recent years has been a joke and is no surprise they have been relegated. They deserve it on the balance of how they have performed over the course of a season but it is far too easy to simply rest the blame at the feet of their fans. Mike Ashley needs to take a long look at himself and realise that the main reason Newcastle have failed so miserably is because of him. You cannot sell players like Milner, N'Zogbia and Given and replace them with no-one at all. As for comparing Newcastle to us, its a totally different kettle of fish. The clubs are in totally different circumstances behind the scenes. Despite going down, in terms of revenue Newcastle are still something stupid like the 17th richest club in the world. I'm sure it wont be the case next year but they will have a considerably larger amount in their coffers than we did and wont be held to ransom for any players they dont want to sell (although I cant think of many beyond Harper, Taylor, Beye, Bassong and Guthrie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 25 May, 2009 Share Posted 25 May, 2009 I hate the way so many fans take delight in the plight of a club like Newcastle. A lot of people seem to profess that all Newcastle fans think they have a divine right to be in the Premier League. Not true. They have excellent, humble support at home and away who love the club and support them no matter how drab their performances. Yes, their average home attendance has dropped this season to about 48,000 but thats still a hell of a large gate for a team serving up such poor performances. That club is rotton to the core and getting relegated this season is possibly the best thing that could happen to them. It's not their fault they were willing and have the means to pay their players handsomely, but a string of poor managers and poor decisions had seen them with a squad comprised by about 7 managers all with different ideas on personel and how the team should play. I honestly think they will walk the Championship next season. They will rid themselves of dead wood and mercenaries like Owen, Duff, Coloccini, Viduka etc... and be left with some decent young players, good experienced players and enough money to buy some players who will play for the club with pride, which is what they dont have enough of at the moment. i wanted Newcastle to stay up because i have always had a fair bit of respect for them, however on the way back from forest some geordie was on 6-0-6 saying how the prem needed newcastle and it would be worse off without them. a lot of geordies agreed and that makes them look like mugs and now im glad they went down, barnsley away, how inviting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 25 May, 2009 Share Posted 25 May, 2009 i wanted Newcastle to stay up because i have always had a fair bit of respect for them, however on the way back from forest some geordie was on 6-0-6 saying how the prem needed newcastle and it would be worse off without them. a lot of geordies agreed and that makes them look like mugs and now im glad they went down, barnsley away, how inviting.... Every club has a fair proportion of deluded supporters. We have more than your average. The amount of fans on the main page that think we have some divine right to expect a billionaire to buy us and carry us back to the glory days of Premier League mid-table obscurity is rather unsettling. Despite this, I know we have a great set of fans because I sit amongst them at matches but can appreciate there are a fair few that expect everything on a plate. Bit unfair to think they represent the feelings of an entire fanbase. Whilst on the subject, do you think producers of 606 would prefer an idiot spouting the rubbish you have quoted a fan saying or someone who gives an honest assessment of the state that club is in? I'm sure it would be the former as it encourages more people to call to carry the argument on. Such as the BBC website saying "Tears as Newcastle go down" as their headline. There were about 3 people blubbing and the rest were taking the relegation with dignity which is a lot more than can be said for supporters of other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Can't really understand this Newcastle-hating bandwagon myself, the fans I've actually met over the years (as opposed to the gomels you see/hear on 606 or Sky Sports News) have been knowledgeable, pleasant people. Like Sambosa says, judge on what you've actually seen, rather than what the set-'em-up knock-'em-down media shows you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 26 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Can't really understand this Newcastle-hating bandwagon myself, the fans I've actually met over the years (as opposed to the gomels you see/hear on 606 or Sky Sports News) have been knowledgeable, pleasant people. Like Sambosa says, judge on what you've actually seen, rather than what the set-'em-up knock-'em-down media shows you. The media did show me 20,000 fans bunking off work/school to go and see Michael Owen when he signed. And a large number of them calling for Big Sam's head after only a few months in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 The media did show me 20,000 fans bunking off work/school to go and see Michael Owen when he signed. And a large number of them calling for Big Sam's head after only a few months in charge.I thought yesterday about those Georgdies who were shown abusing Allardycew and singing you dont know what you are doing.Well if they had kept their nerve they wouldnt be in the CCC now. Also i would never have thoguht that a side with Shearer as maanger would have played with so little passion, as for Dowies credentials as an organiser...their defence!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 As i'm from Geordie stock, i'm laffing out loud at the toon being relegated, if only because i've wound it into the family members who are ST holders at SJP. It's just a shame we couldn't stay in the division.Newcastle are a decent club with (generally) good fans and they will be a big club in the second div. That league is looking a bastard to get out of next season. Shame we can't have a decent north east away day oot on the toot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 The media did show me 20,000 fans bunking off work/school to go and see Michael Owen when he signed. And a large number of them calling for Big Sam's head after only a few months in charge. Some deluded morons amongst a fanbase comprising tens of thousands of people, eh? Well that obviously makes them unique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 26 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Some deluded morons amongst a fanbase comprising tens of thousands of people, eh? Well that obviously makes them unique Newcastle just seem to have a lot more than most. I mean 20,000 people skipping work/school to see Owen sign. He wasn't even that special and had been average by his previous standards for a couple of years. Overall though I am laughing at the club more than the fans. I can't believe a club with a 50,000 odd seater stadium, the fan base to do it and a wealthy asugar daddy could get it that spectacularly wrong. I'm please teams like Stoke stayed up, even if they don't play pretty football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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