Micky Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 I don't know whether to laugh or cry. We all want, as saints fans, to hear that the deal has now been done. The new owners showing us their plans and hopefully that they are of one mind with regard the future. That money is available and that ST's will be available very soon. What we don't want is the moronic ramblings of the demented few, who seem willing only to be perpetually on a wind up. I would much rather be discussing the possible signings of cheapish experienced/highly promising players ready to fight for the cause in Division 1 and the man who we would choose to lead them. We expect money to be tight so give us a break and clam up if you know diddlysquat. Problem is that these are the people that are allegedly trying to buy the club...!!! To say this is whole sorry saga is fast decending into farce would be an almighty understatement. Either we find ourselves a creditable buyer and new owner in the next couple of days or else I fear we face many more years of decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 it is now evident that a local loon has been living a Walter Mitty style "I'm a Business Strategist" fantasy in a vain attempt to impress the people on this messageboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 it is now evident that a local loon has been living a Walter Mitty style "I'm a Business Strategist" fantasy in a vain attempt to impress the people on this messageboard. In which case one of two things will obviously happen today Nothing or Barry the Briefcase will turn up at SMS to look at the books. Is it too warm for tanktops? Anyone on Stadium watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 TODAY'S ECHO Is the same as normal, Mark Fry wants a quick fire sale, still in talks with Jackson, Pinnacle and the overseas guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Killers Knee are you referring to Morph by any chance? "it is now evident that a local loon has been living a Walter Mitty style" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Problem is that these are the people that are allegedly trying to buy the club...!!! To say this is whole sorry saga is fast decending into farce would be an almighty understatement. Either we find ourselves a creditable buyer and new owner in the next couple of days or else I fear we face many more years of decline. it is now evident that a local loon has been living a Walter Mitty style "I'm a Business Strategist" fantasy in a vain attempt to impress the people on this messageboard. And how do we all know any of this? Everyone is coming up with their own version of what is happening/not happening based on "information" that is posted on this forum and is probably 99% crap. I`ve said this many times before but the only person that knows the truth is Mark Fry and we have to assume that he is a professional and knows what he is doing, more so than the bulk of opinionated numpties that post stuff on here like it is fact. It is "fun" to speculate but let`s be honest, there are very few, if any, posters on here that actually know what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 [/b] And how do we all know any of this? Everyone is coming up with their own version of what is happening/not happening based on "information" that is posted on this forum and is probably 99% crap. I`ve said this many times before but the only person that knows the truth is Mark Fry and we have to assume that he is a professional and knows what he is doing, more so than the bulk of opinionated numpties that post stuff on here like it is fact. It is "fun" to speculate but let`s be honest, there are very few, if any, posters on here that actually know what is going on. Very true. There are one or two who are being drip fed info from sources close to bids as well. Whether they are being fed fact or bulsh*t is another matter. I would suggest that anything coming from Jackson is bullsh*t. You would think that people would have learnt that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Killers Knee are you referring to Morph by any chance? "it is now evident that a local loon has been living a Walter Mitty style" I think he meant you dragonov:smt117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Problem is that these are the people that are allegedly trying to buy the club...!!! To say this is whole sorry saga is fast decending into farce would be an almighty understatement. Either we find ourselves a creditable buyer and new owner in the next couple of days or else I fear we face many more years of decline. No they are not...how can they when it needs millions and they have to prove DD? They are brokering a deal on behalf of someone. Can you show me any proof that they are either a] Jackson is buying it b] going to be on the board c] has made any statement to this effect. Or is your assumption based on what the usual sh1t stirrers on here dredge up time and time again? Can you show any proof that the so called 3 bids are not creditable? Why did Fry discard the Guernsey bid if he is just accepting anyone then? Too much rubbish is being written and believed on here without fact and just based on what some anti-anyone posts to stir it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 There are one or two who are being drip fed info from sources close to bids as well. Whether they are being fed fact or bulsh*t is another matter. I wonder if when in discussion with those in an around those sources close to bids, are they told it in the strictest confidence ? do they ask is this confidential information ? does the teller even use the words between you and me do not repeat this ? You could say it goes without saying when offered certain information you, if in a professional capacity, would keep information to yourself, however, invariably the information is banded about for all, which begs the question why ? are the MJ crew any different to Salz crew ? has Nickh at any point during his conversations with MJ or St David been asked to keep it 'between us' has Morph been told similar ? I would suggest not which is why this thread continues and questions are asked of the motive behind the many disclosures from supposed 'bidders' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 All that Jackson is doing is ramping up the asking the price thus delaying the real deal. Those defending him need to wake up and realise that this clown has absolutely no chance of getting people to back him. He's nothing short of a laughing stock in the business comunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 No they are not...how can they when it needs millions and they have to prove DD? They are brokering a deal on behalf of someone. Can you show me any proof that they are either a] Jackson is buying it b] going to be on the board c] has made any statement to this effect. Or is your assumption based on what the usual sh1t stirrers on here dredge up time and time again? Can you show any proof that the so called 3 bids are not creditable? Why did Fry discard the Guernsey bid if he is just accepting anyone then? Too much rubbish is being written and believed on here without fact and just based on what some anti-anyone posts to stir it all up. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 All that Jackson is doing is ramping up the asking the price thus delaying the real deal. Those defending him need to wake up and realise that this clown has absolutely no chance of getting people to back him. He's nothing short of a laughing stock in the business comunity. Then presumably Fry, being a professional, will have nothing to do with him and you won`t have a problem will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 So you could be right...I am a Leon, Anthony and Gavyn Luvvie...Does not make me a bad person to have some belief at last:) Now just tell me what happened to your old flame Rupes or is he still thinking about giving us some money up front for a change:smt117 Now Jacko.[-X..well you go on believing pal but do not cry later as your hatred for others does not become you...Believe that sensible people are on the case;) Inbalance what is that all about mucker..thought we wos buddies.[-X In this scenario Im going to jump ship when each bid drops out.At present we have had Pinnacle who many who had seen their plans were very upbeat.They seem to have not gone forward, we then have had MJ's people whoi were there with written bids before Pinnacle and were3 still there on fridayand supposedly at due dilligence.Then up pops Salz and co not with a written bid but waiting to be invited to make one, to me that is comical.If MJ is kicked into touch i will board your liferaft and hope it doesnt get swamped. There is no winners if all fail, I have put my case why I would prefer MJ's (basically morally,) but I alos have a little info that Iam sworn to secrecy on.IF true (and the source is not Mj etc) then Im sure most would be comfortable and back it. We are friends but have to agree to disagree.I expect whoever to take over to be prudent (similar to RL)not be spendthrifts that could put us in jeopardy like the mad spending spree we had 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Then presumably Fry, being a professional, will have nothing to do with him and you won`t have a problem will you? Wacko Jacko is presumably a joke figure to Fry, but also a bartering tool to be used. The fact no-one is taken in by Jacko anymore makes him a pretty useless tool, but he's a tool none the less. Pinacle and other bidders need to keep their heads (which i believe they are doing) and give Wacko Jacko the respect he deserves, i.e no respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 BBC Radio Solent: Mark Fry very optimistic that a takeover can be done within 48 hours. More to follow just after 9.20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 'another 48 hours' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Then presumably Fry, being a professional, will have nothing to do with him and you won`t have a problem will you? If thats the case then no. If MJ has brokered a deal, then great, if thats the end of his involvement even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 BBC Radio Solent: Mark Fry very optimistic that a takeover can be done within 48 hours. More to follow just after 9.20 Its after 9.20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 In this scenario Im going to jump ship when each bid drops out.At present we have had Pinnacle who many who had seen their plans were very upbeat.They seem to have not gone forward, we then have had MJ's people whoi were there with written bids before Pinnacle and were3 still there on fridayand supposedly at due dilligence.Then up pops Salz and co not with a written bid but waiting to be invited to make one, to me that is comical.If MJ is kicked into touch i will board your liferaft and hope it doesnt get swamped. There is no winners if all fail, I have put my case why I would prefer MJ's (basically morally,) but I alos have a little info that Iam sworn to secrecy on.IF true (and the source is not Mj etc) then Im sure most would be comfortable and back it. We are friends but have to agree to disagree.I expect whoever to take over to be prudent (similar to RL)not be spendthrifts that could put us in jeopardy like the mad spending spree we had 3 years ago. are you ITK now Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 'another 48 hours' There's a personage in another 48hrs called Cherry Ganz how apt is that!. He's a pretty bad dude though,anhilates everything in his path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 I wonder if when in discussion with those in an around those sources close to bids, are they told it in the strictest confidence ? do they ask is this confidential information ? does the teller even use the words between you and me do not repeat this ? You could say it goes without saying when offered certain information you, if in a professional capacity, would keep information to yourself, however, invariably the information is banded about for all, which begs the question why ? are the MJ crew any different to Salz crew ? has Nickh at any point during his conversations with MJ or St David been asked to keep it 'between us' has Morph been told similar ? I would suggest not which is why this thread continues and questions are asked of the motive behind the many disclosures from supposed 'bidders' I did/have not spoken privately to MJ or SJ about the takeover .I had conversation with Justmike and others with MJ and that was mainly about the strategy if their group they have introduced happened to takeover. It was as far as I remember about cutting costs further not airy fairy I expect them to spend xyz. Any info I have got from a different couple of people is 'this must not be spoken about and kept to yourself under any circumstance' I was told that if the info was leaked an impotant member would walk.I dont wish to be the person who may cost us the deal. Strangely enough 2 people have been mentioned on here who are likely to be in the deal and both times in a bizarre way.Whether you wish to believe that, I cant decide but that is how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 TODAY'S ECHO Is the same as normal, Mark Fry wants a quick fire sale, still in talks with Jackson, Pinnacle and the overseas guys. Most likely a " Fire Sale " ........... sounds familiar ......should appease the creditors though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 BBC Radio Solent: Mark Fry very optimistic that a takeover can be done within 48 hours. More to follow just after 9.20 But thats a bloody Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 BBC Radio Solent: Mark Fry very optimistic that a takeover can be done within 48 hours. More to follow just after 9.20 AM or PM MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 I would suggest that anything coming from Jackson is bullsh*t. You would think that people would have learnt that by now. Probably still on your ignore list so you wont see this, but this is sadly also my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Probably still on your ignore list so you wont see this' date=' but this is sadly also my opinion.[/quote'] There you go Frank, now he'll see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Probably still on your ignore list so you wont see this' date=' but this is sadly also my opinion.[/quote'] It's the opinion of anyone with half a brain to be fair. He's a fly by night and no mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 But thats a bloody Thursday. No it's not. In view of the difficulty in making actual announcements on any given Friday as anticipated, the remainder of this week will now run: Tuesday(Today), Thursday, Friday, Friday. I'm sure the two Friday week will do the trick. Now try and keep up Northam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Still think the issue is simply money... we have had no interest from anyone who has tey clout or willingness to individually fund a takeover - only a couple of groups who have pulled together enough relatively rich individuals who have in theory pledged funds, but then when it gets to parting with the cash or looking at the finer points of the deal, start to get cold feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 BBC Radio Solent: Mark Fry very optimistic that a takeover can be done within 48 hours. More to follow just after 9.20 Echo update http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4395331.Fry_wants_quick_Saints_sale/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 So it looks as though there will be no news until FRIDAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdaz Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 mb is correct . i heard on solent that fry is very optimistic that a deal will be done within 48 hours. they said on solent they will disclose details shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Any info I have got from a different couple of people is 'this must not be spoken about and kept to yourself under any circumstance' I was told that if the info was leaked an impotant member would walk.I dont wish to be the person who may cost us the deal. Has he not heard of Viagara? I am not sure what his sexual problems have to do with a takeover apart from airing his problem on here Nick! I hope you havnt jeopardised this deal. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 It's just a tactic from Mr Ry to try and scare people into action.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 It's just a tactic from Mr Ry to try and scare people into action.. Or even Mr Fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 It still doesnt add up. It is being claimed that DD will take 5 days, so if they start looking at the books today how can we have an outcome in 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Or even Mr Fry. Or by Solent to get more than their traditional half a dozen listeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Or even Mr Fry. If no deal goes through some may look to take F in Fry out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 It still doesnt add up. It is being claimed that DD will take 5 days, so if they start looking at the books today how can we have an outcome in 48 hours. Could be exclusivity deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 I did/have not spoken privately to MJ or SJ about the takeover .I had conversation with Justmike and others with MJ and that was mainly about the strategy if their group they have introduced happened to takeover. It was as far as I remember about cutting costs further not airy fairy I expect them to spend xyz. Any info I have got from a different couple of people is 'this must not be spoken about and kept to yourself under any circumstance' I was told that if the info was leaked an impotant member would walk.I dont wish to be the person who may cost us the deal.to be in the deal and both times in a bizarre way.Whether you wish to believe that, I cant decide but that is how it is. :smt107:smt107:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Echo update http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4395331.Fry_wants_quick_Saints_sale/ I note with some trepidation that in the picture on the link above Mr Fry is wearing a black tie as if someone or something has just died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/439...k_Saints_sale/ Actually some information in there for a change.... but if everything is supposed to be NDA'd how come the Echo know so much?.... Oh, sorry, it's the Echo isn't it, silly question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Certainly looking more positive now Surely we will have a football league side to watch next season then ay? League 1 doesnt seem that bad at all after all the worry of the last month. Keeping my fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 AM or PM MB. AM, Esther Ranzer was on and over ran so should have been on at 10am, which I didn't catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Any info I have got from a different couple of people is 'this must not be spoken about and kept to yourself under any circumstance' I was told that if the info was leaked an impotant member would walk.I dont wish to be the person who may cost us the deal. You are being taken for a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 Due diligence -UHm... five days... in our case t should be pretty transparent what we owe, but perhaps more interesting will be what the current contractual obligations mean for our cost base. The key will be for someone with sufficient experience of running businesses that need turning around (eg hopefully not folk with track records of previous buisnesses going into admin or being liquidated) and bullsh i t free approach to not overstating the potntial to fans, or making promises the wallet simply cant back up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 :smt107:smt107:) You have like GITR seen my carefully coded message. it is obviously the eunach who looks after Sheik Me-leg who is behind the nega deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 "Mysterious overseas bidder". For some reason this phrase makes me laugh every time I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 May, 2009 Share Posted 26 May, 2009 You are being taken for a fool.Probably, but that is what I am so nothing new there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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