saint lard Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Poll Please,if at all deemed worth it. With all the conjecture and opinions being banded about,and sometimes the usual sniping,are we going to have someone come in and breath new life into SFC or are we just going to cease to exist. This saga has been running for sometime now and it quite possibly may have many twists and turns yet too come. But at this moment... YES, we will survive? NO, the end of SFC,as we know it? For what it's worth,i truly believe we will get that deal,what/who the deal is, well thats the $64M question.........
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 YES !!!! But i don't think I'll survive if this keeps on any bloody longer.
Mole Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 The voting thus far is how i'd expect. Saints Web posters have a track record of being wrong.
saint lard Posted 21 May, 2009 Author Posted 21 May, 2009 A poll for you, sir. Ta muchly,appreciated.
krissyboy31 Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 I voted yes because the alternative doesn't bare thinking about.
Saintjersey Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 The voting thus far is how i'd expect. Saints Web posters have a track record of being wrong. I hope that trend continues.
TNT Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Not going to get a 'takeover' as someone is 'buying' from the administrator.
Ponty Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Not going to get a 'takeover' as someone is 'buying' from the administrator. That's possibly just semantics to 90% of the posters. What was your vote?
saint lard Posted 21 May, 2009 Author Posted 21 May, 2009 Not going to get a 'takeover' as someone is 'buying' from the administrator. You know what i mean,i'm sure. For simplistic reasons used the term,yes ok ,i maybe simple..before you say it;)
Draino76 Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 I vote yes, but I imagine it will all be a bit underwhelming when it happens. There is no Paul Allen like folk comming, I checked for Yachts.
DG Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Just can't see it. Even if we do get an offer will it be good enough to put off the inevitable anyway?
sad saints fan Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 The voting thus far is how i'd expect. Saints Web posters have a track record of being wrong. well about half of us anyway
Rob the Saint Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Personally the bank and Aviva will want something rather than nothing surely ? I am just wondering whether it's those 2 parties that are controlling the level of the deal and administrators are just acting as agents. Just a thought...
saint lard Posted 21 May, 2009 Author Posted 21 May, 2009 Thus far, i'm surprised,i thought blind optimism would be way out in the lead.hey ho.
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 ooh, thats close!!!, My yes has just pulled the yes's ever closer!! Big up the yes's!!!
Block 5 Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 I say yes. But as has already been said, it won't be the billionaire we all dream off. I imagine Derek Trotter will be our new owner.
chi saint Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 I can't see any reason why we won't..eventually..be taken over. I am not that clued up about administration etc but it seems simple. Fry is under a lawful obligation to achieve the best price for the creditors. Now what that price ends up as is surely down to market forces, i.e. how many are interested and what price ultimately can be acheived. The options are surely - 1. No one makes an offer which I think is unlikely and from reports has already occurred. In which case I presume liquidation follows and a fire sale of assets takes place. 2. That any offer is not acceptable to creditors, in terms of the amount offered, which again will mean a liquidation and sale of assets. 3. Surely the most likely scenario is that the highest bidder wins. Now that might not be anywhere near the reported 14 - 15 mil being sought but I would have thought creditors would rather have something rather than nothing. In which case Fry would have done his job and fulfilled his legal obligation. I may completely wide of the mark with my theory and if I am i'm sure someone will put me right!
hugh Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 The natural pessimist in me, forged over the last few years of continual disappointment, says that there will be no takeover, but everything will be broken up. If we manage to rescue something like a football club out of that, then I will feel we have done well.
scotty Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 This is monumentally depressing, and all that keeps springing to my mind is, we were too good to drop out of the prem. But we did. We were odds-on favourites to go straight back up. And we didnt. We couldn't even contemplate dropping out of the Championship, but we managed to do it, and as if that weren't bad enough, with the Royal flush of a 10-point deduction. Now we're all assuming that Saints are too big a club not to be bought out of admin, notwithstanding the financial hurricane currently f*cking the global economy, and I'm starting to wonder whether the emperor actually has any clothes:(
Saint Martini Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Lol@the division... Can't we Saints fans agree on anything?
krissyboy31 Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Lol@the division... Can't we Saints fans agree on anything? No! HTH
Saint Fan CaM Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Why was there no "I have no fecking clue" option? That surely must apply to nearly everyone who has posted a reply to this somewhat pointless poll - myself included.
egreog Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Just can't see the right buyer wanting the club as it is.......funding issues etc.......preparing for the worst and hoping for best!
saint lard Posted 21 May, 2009 Author Posted 21 May, 2009 Why was there no "I have no fecking clue" option? That surely must apply to nearly everyone who has posted a reply to this somewhat pointless poll - myself included. Have you read the question properly? Do you think a "takeover "will happen To Save SFC from obscurity. YES or NO. Simple as.An opinion is all that is required,no more no less. None of us,well maybe some of a select few,actually know what the outcome will be,who/when etc. It's not about knowing it will happen but do you THINK it will happen. Sorry chap, didn't think it was so unprecise.
krissyboy31 Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Why was there no "I have no fecking clue" option? That surely must apply to nearly everyone who has posted a reply to this somewhat pointless poll - myself included. At the moment it is Even Stephen mid 160's "YES", mid 160's "NO". If we had been given that option it would be approx 330 "I have no fecking clue" with YES and NO drawing nil-nil,
Saint in Paradise Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 The voting thus far is how i'd expect. Saints Web posters have a track record of being wrong. Oh dear we have had it then as the YES vote is in the lead by 10
sad saints fan Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 this poll is more exciting than the premiership
ITKSaint Posted 21 May, 2009 Posted 21 May, 2009 Shame there wasn't a third option 'candy', would have had my vote.
redkeith Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 There has been talk about the assets on other threads, but if you look at them all, there is no way that it is in the creditors interest to let the club fold. 1) Stadium, only of real value if someone else wants to use it ( Eastleigh, a rugby club or some American buys the Skates and decides to move them to better facilities like the LA Rams did) . 2) Staplewood - again only of real value if another sports team wants it( £2 Mil). 3) Acadamey Hostel, can be sold as housing, B&B etc( £1 mill) . 4) The playing staff - Can only be sold if the club is still going, otherwise they all walk (£3 - 5 Million) 5) The Golden Share and the 'goodwill' of the supporters, again only of value if the club keeps going, worth at least £3 million a year if as few as 7,000 people still turn up every week. The players and the goodwill are the most valuable assets, and any sensbile creditor would see that. Having said that, our biggest creditors are Financial Institutions, who thought it was safe to give a mortgage to Earl and Randy Hicky and then sell it on to each other.
The9 Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 The voting thus far is how i'd expect. Saints Web posters have a track record of being wrong. Good luck with THAT evidence, especially as the current state of the vote is almost evenly split...
eurosaint Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 I say yes. But as has already been said, it won't be the billionaire we all dream off. I imagine Derek Trotter will be our new owner. "The world is our Lobster" bring him on....
Mole Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 Good luck with THAT evidence, especially as the current state of the vote is almost evenly split... I was commenting on the intial votes where 80% said there would be no takeover.
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 "The world is our Lobster" bring him on.... Arthur Daley? I prefer 'this time next year we'll be millionaires!'
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 Arthur Daley? I prefer 'this time next year we'll be millionaires!' Mange tout, Mange tout petis pois!
trousers Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 Del: One of my most favouritist meals is Duck à l'Orange, but I don't know how to say that in French. Rodney: It's canard. Del: You can say that again bruv!
Foxstone Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 Mange tout, Mange tout petis pois! And we will be bought by the creme de menthe of society !
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 (edited) At the moment it is Even Stephen mid 160's "YES", mid 160's "NO". If we had been given that option it would be approx 330 "I have no fecking clue" with YES and NO drawing nil-nil, Exactly! I rest my case... Edited 22 May, 2009 by Saint Fan CaM typo
St Marco Posted 22 May, 2009 Posted 22 May, 2009 We will get bought out eventually. Having worked in business along time i have seen some of the most ill run companies destined for the scrap heap still get bought out. One man's crap is another man's gold and all that. However we are unlucky in that we are in a bad recession right now. If this was a few years ago then things would of been different. So i think we will be sold eventually just it wont be to a rich guy like we all want. We could be back in the same situation in a year or two. Or if the financial world recovers then we would be prime for takeover.
eurosaint Posted 23 May, 2009 Posted 23 May, 2009 Arthur Daley? I prefer 'this time next year we'll be millionaires!' I stand corrected !
docker-p Posted 23 May, 2009 Posted 23 May, 2009 I'm sure it will happen. The Coventry City bid didn't happen until the eleventh hour.
SaintRobbie Posted 24 May, 2009 Posted 24 May, 2009 I am sure we'll get a takeover soon. But, I am concerned though that if we do not see any action by the end of this month we may not have an opportunity to rebuild this summer with our new manager. What is also - more concerning - is the fact that we may lose more points if a takeover does not occur shortly. Does anyone know when the FA may start further deductions?
Amesbury Saint Posted 24 May, 2009 Posted 24 May, 2009 I'm sure it will happen. The Coventry City bid didn't happen until the eleventh hour. but when is our 11th hour?
SaintRobbie Posted 24 May, 2009 Posted 24 May, 2009 but when is our 11th hour? For me its the time from which we start having further points deducted by the FA, hence my question above. But, end of May in terms of rebuilding with a new manager.
red&white4life Posted 24 May, 2009 Posted 24 May, 2009 No. Too much faffing around, don't think any of the bidders are that serious about Saints. Only interested In assets and profit. Will soon drop out of the running when admin's ask too much. But WTF do I know. Col
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