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I tell you what IF it comes off people who have posted some of this stuff will look fairly stupid, so go on with your nonsense.I doubt you'll have the substance to come on and apologise, but just melt away .Yes he may be a fantasist but Fry will look fairly stupid as well as he has ALL the info in front of him and so if he falls for it then his reputation will be damaged far more than fans like myself who just want him to be the real deal.

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My reading of the Bournemouth situation was that MJ was left at the last minute by somebody pulling out, it sounds like Pinnacle had the same problem.Are you going to have a go at them for that?

 

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Well Imo they have not courted the publicity. Show me the interviews, they were at SMS during the forum game and just sat and watched.They met up with the people who went back on the night to the pub and only spoke when they were introduced.Very low key I promise.

My reading of the Bournemouth situation was that MJ was left at the last minute by somebody pulling out, it sounds like Pinnacle had the same problem.Are you going to have a go at them for that?

 

MJ's Facebook profile was full of not so subtle hints and "look at me" TBH.

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I tell you what IF it comes off people who have posted some of this stuff will look fairly stupid, so go on with your nonsense.I doubt you'll have the substance to come on and apologise, but just melt away .Yes he may be a fantasist but Fry will look fairly stupid as well as he has ALL the info in front of him and so if he falls for it then his reputation will be damaged far more than fans like myself who just want him to be the real deal.

 

Apologise for what ?

 

Jacksons the one that spouted off on here by all accounts and under whose instruction ? Rupert Lowes

 

It would be a shambolic disaster, end of.

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Apologise for what ?

 

spouted off on here by all accounts

 

It would be a shambolic disaster, end of.

You dont even know if he did Lol, all heresay, and now under Lowes orders

Oh a shambolic disaster, and going into oblivion is fun,right

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At the end of the day if there are no other bids accepted then there are two choices....

 

a) Get behind their bid and support the lads, appreciate that these guys have saved SFC from extinction.

 

b) F*ck off and watch Eastleigh.

 

If Lowe was to come back then I would choose 'b' , but as he is not, and having met Jackson and I think his heart is in the right place, I think I would give these guys my support.

 

Now is not the time to question people, it is not the time to ask for more, it is not the time to be fussy.....

 

.... it is time to sit back and appreciate that we need somebody/anybody to buy the club and at least see us in the fixture lists which are set when the league meets on June 12th.

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You dont even know if he did Lol, all heresay, and now under Lowes orders

Oh a shambolic disaster, and going into oblivion is fun,right

 

I have read enough on here to suggest that he camped up on the saints forum making allsorts of fake takeover posts and rocking the boat. He himself told people he 'was asked' to do such stuff. Now bearing in mind his love of the incompetent relegation managament, add the two together and it makes four.

 

Then courtesy of a bournemouth fan posting on here we go on their forum and this idiot is acting a right prat for weeks on end.

 

What was this 'trican sports' all about with Stuart Green ? Forming a company with a convincted vat fraudster with 4 years in the nick.

 

 

I fail to see how these two fools have been allowed through the doors of SMS.

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I have read enough on here to suggest that he camped up on the saints forum making allsorts of fake takeover posts and rocking the boat. He himself told people he 'was asked' to do such stuff. Now bearing in mind his love of the incompetent relegation managament, add the two together and it makes four.

 

Then courtesy of a bournemouth fan posting on here we go on their forum and this idiot is acting a right prat for weeks on end.

 

What was this 'trican sports' all about with Stuart Green ? Forming a company with a convincted vat fraudster with 4 years in the nick.

 

 

I fail to see how these two fools have been allowed through the doors of SMS.

 

TNT look at the house of parliament and see the criminal chart there. A vat fraudster is nothing to them.I also believe that Richard Branson was done for VAT fraud in his early days, Simon Cowell a bankrupt and many other successful people have been accused or prosecuted for some pretty unsavoury things.

Not that Im condoning it

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TNT look at the house of parliament and see the criminal chart there. A vat fraudster is nothing to them.I also believe that Richard Branson was done for VAT fraud in his early days, Simon Cowell a bankrupt and many other successful people have been accused or prosecuted for some pretty unsavoury things.

Not that Im condoning it

But did Branson and Cowell wear baggy stained jumpers when they went to court?

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Answered your own question in a way.

 

Maybe they have met and talked, maybe we have simply typed.

 

But he would not have talked without a proof of funds to get to NDA and then again proof of funds with an actual bid would have had to come from the principles not from the saleman

 

HTH

 

That's more like Jackson type than Dubai Phil type IMO.

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I'd be surprised if Phil typed 'principles' when he meant 'principals'.

 

Well, indeed. One of several signs.

 

No doubt "Dubai Phil" or some acolyte will now come on and post about how ****ed he is in Dubai on some god-awful ****tail that most people stopped drinking soon after they left uni.

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Ahhh we have some sleuths amongst us. Strangely, I too think that some here are not who they appear, and suspect that somebody close to the action has been posting. Should be interesting to see what transpires.

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At the end of the day if there are no other bids accepted then there are two choices....

 

a) Get behind their bid and support the lads, appreciate that these guys have saved SFC from extinction.

 

b) F*ck off and watch Eastleigh.

 

If Lowe was to come back then I would choose 'b' , but as he is not, and having met Jackson and I think his heart is in the right place, I think I would give these guys my support.

 

Now is not the time to question people, it is not the time to ask for more, it is not the time to be fussy.....

 

.... it is time to sit back and appreciate that we need somebody/anybody to buy the club and at least see us in the fixture lists which are set when the league meets on June 12th.

 

Thank fxck for that piece of common sense Stu. I cannot believe people are holding up MJ and any deal he brokers to derision if it is all that we have between having a club and not having a club. Ok it's not our dream saviour but ffs we aren't in much of a position to belittle people who just might find some way to save us surely?

 

I hope he doesn't bother reading some of this shxt because if I was him I'd say "well go **** yourselves then".

 

I'm not going to express any personal opinion of the bloke because, quite frankly, I'm ****ting myself that any time soon we might not have a club to bother having a forum about.

 

We are, unfortunately, beggars at the moment.

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I'm aware of the reputation of Marc Jackson from reading on here over the last couple of years, and also from that interview he gave when attempting to take over Bournemouth. Appears to me that the major accusations about him are that he is dyslexic, a chancer and that he couldn't back up his claims with hard cash.

 

I know absolutely nothing about Stuart Green, but it seems he is a moderately successful business man, I am guessing in much the same way as Leon Crouch. Local businessman with enough money to gain control of the club, but not enough to do a huge amount with it.

 

However, if they have indeed managed to throw together just short of 14m to gain control of the club, then I guess we can discount one of the criticisms against Marc Jackson. And frankly I am not that bothered about his dyslexia if he is going to play a major role in helping the club avoid liquidation. As for being a chancer, I guess people make this assumption on the basis that he doesn't have any significant money himself. So basically, he is a normal Saints fan with a desire to be involved in the football club that he loves, and has put in a lot of time and effort to try and make that happen. I bet there are a hundred fans on this forum who would love to be able to put themselves in the same position (and that is perhaps the major reason he gets a slating on here- a Saints fan, like us, who has the audacity to have a dream and try to make that happen).

 

However, the major issue I have is that a successful bid by these two may just prove to be as divisive as Rupert Lowe was. I can already imagine the hand-wringing on this forum if they do gain control, right from the start, when in fact a much better reaction would be to give the guys a chance to prove themselves. After all, it doesn't appear that anyone else is working hard enough to show Fry the cash, and for that reason they deserve our support.

 

For what it's worth, I would prefer the club to be taken over by someone else (the Pinnacle 'bid' sounds like a good long-term solution for Saints, while the offer of a mystery overseas party seems to promise much greater sums of cash), but if that is not to happen and Jackson and Green gain control, they have my full support.

 

I could not agree more. I would wish that there are still other options open and hold out some small hope of that but jeez we can't be too picky at the moment folks.

 

I say this with no sarcasm but it was good to see quite a range of others agree with the post above (after an initial misunderstanding) because, whatever any of forum members' previous views or grievances with past administrations have been before, I'm sticking to my hope that we have a club to support next season and that is about all that matters right now?

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For all you dissenters mocking LLS and SG you need to take a reality check

FFS open your friggin eyes nobody else wants two take us over at Least these two are doing their best to ensure our survival

and remember the dark forces are at work sabotaging every effort to ensure our survival . Wake up u fellow fans there are people on this forum who truly want us to disappear into the sands of time.

Look at logic and not the stupidity of a minority. With ou the likes of LLS and SG we are well and truly ****ed

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Their initial finance both here when they looked into it before and Bournemouth was from Dubai, is this still the case?

 

No

 

And for the record, have posted many times, Dubai is technically bankrupt. It makes the sub-prime market seem like a good investment or Brit MP's seem honest.

Exact figures are hard to find, but with the number of expats down here diluting the number of locals in the population, the debt of Dubai ALONE works out at between 60 and 100 MILLION yes that's MILLION dollars per Emirati passport holder.

 

(oh how we laughed)

 

Other points of note.

 

BTF - yes, well spotted.

 

Bullfrogs warranted their own article in the Daily Mail (that bastion of literary standards) about 6 years ago.

 

 

Apparently only magically Salz is left and ready to speak to Fry and he hasn't got enough money.

That's a great plan, let's wait for him to buy us for a pound and get another 15 points deduction next year.

If he was such a hero and so well connected how come 1) he hasn't got enough money and 2) he hasn't found somebody with ENOUGH money (yet) after what, 2 years of trying?

 

As no-one else seems to be around how do we sign up for L1 next year or issue Season Tickets or negotiate a new contract with KD or shall we wait until September?

 

Shall we do a Leon and gamble that a buyer will be along in the next 6 months?

 

As many have pointed out MJ has no money, only BS.

 

Just ask yourself how he would get past Fry on BS alone.

 

Knocking him is fair game, because of his over eager stupidity in the past, but in the same breath, by association, you are accusing Fry of being an idiot for not spotting he has any substance alongside him.

 

This is the same Fry that many posted in praise of on the appreciation thread.

 

So, if MJ is completely full of it, then so is Fry for giving him the time of day, unless of course, MJ is just the guy who led a horse to water and along with others is trying to make him drink.

 

Does anyone REALLY think that Fry spends every minute of every day being "distracted" by MJ?

Fry is not the only one working at SMS, BT have a whole TEAM of PROFESSIONALS on the project.

 

There are so many difficulties in the negotiation phase of admin that anything can go wrong, and cause an interested party to walk away.

 

Everyday another problem comes up, it has taken us around 5 weeks for 34 parties to get whittled down to one stubborn bloody minded supposed buffoon being left in the game. Doesn' that SCARE you?

 

Could it be we're in such a mess that the only thing that will get us out of it is bloody mindedness? but it's ok, about 1500 out of at least 200,000 Saints fans around the world will be able to go and watch Eastleigh next season.

 

Where's the BL**DY cavalry? Anyone else around trying to actually HELP?

 

When admin came, and some celebrated the (final) removal of Lowe, many pointed out that we lost all control over our destiny. Perhaps I'll mail MJ this morning and tell him to walk away in case he cannot pull it off, because a number of posters read about him and don't like him.

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I have read enough on here to suggest that he camped up on the saints forum making allsorts of fake takeover posts and rocking the boat. He himself told people he 'was asked' to do such stuff. Now bearing in mind his love of the incompetent relegation managament, add the two together and it makes four.

 

Then courtesy of a bournemouth fan posting on here we go on their forum and this idiot is acting a right prat for weeks on end.

 

What was this 'trican sports' all about with Stuart Green ? Forming a company with a convincted vat fraudster with 4 years in the nick.

 

 

I fail to see how these two fools have been allowed through the doors of SMS.

 

 

so you are basing your assumptions from what is written on a forum??? Hardly fact is it :rolleyes:

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No

 

And for the record, have posted many times, Dubai is technically bankrupt. It makes the sub-prime market seem like a good investment or Brit MP's seem honest.

Exact figures are hard to find, but with the number of expats down here diluting the number of locals in the population, the debt of Dubai ALONE works out at between 60 and 100 MILLION yes that's MILLION dollars per Emirati passport holder.

 

(oh how we laughed)

 

Other points of note.

 

BTF - yes, well spotted.

 

Bullfrogs warranted their own article in the Daily Mail (that bastion of literary standards) about 6 years ago.

 

 

Apparently only magically Salz is left and ready to speak to Fry and he hasn't got enough money.

That's a great plan, let's wait for him to buy us for a pound and get another 15 points deduction next year.

If he was such a hero and so well connected how come 1) he hasn't got enough money and 2) he hasn't found somebody with ENOUGH money (yet) after what, 2 years of trying?

 

As no-one else seems to be around how do we sign up for L1 next year or issue Season Tickets or negotiate a new contract with KD or shall we wait until September?

 

Shall we do a Leon and gamble that a buyer will be along in the next 6 months?

 

As many have pointed out MJ has no money, only BS.

 

Just ask yourself how he would get past Fry on BS alone.

 

Knocking him is fair game, because of his over eager stupidity in the past, but in the same breath, by association, you are accusing Fry of being an idiot for not spotting he has any substance alongside him.

 

This is the same Fry that many posted in praise of on the appreciation thread.

 

So, if MJ is completely full of it, then so is Fry for giving him the time of day, unless of course, MJ is just the guy who led a horse to water and along with others is trying to make him drink.

 

Does anyone REALLY think that Fry spends every minute of every day being "distracted" by MJ?

Fry is not the only one working at SMS, BT have a whole TEAM of PROFESSIONALS on the project.

 

There are so many difficulties in the negotiation phase of admin that anything can go wrong, and cause an interested party to walk away.

 

Everyday another problem comes up, it has taken us around 5 weeks for 34 parties to get whittled down to one stubborn bloody minded supposed buffoon being left in the game. Doesn' that SCARE you?

 

Could it be we're in such a mess that the only thing that will get us out of it is bloody mindedness? but it's ok, about 1500 out of at least 200,000 Saints fans around the world will be able to go and watch Eastleigh next season.

 

Where's the BL**DY cavalry? Anyone else around trying to actually HELP?

 

When admin came, and some celebrated the (final) removal of Lowe, many pointed out that we lost all control over our destiny. Perhaps I'll mail MJ this morning and tell him to walk away in case he cannot pull it off, because a number of posters read about him and don't like him.

 

again, totally agree Phil, but you are wasting your time repeating yourself again and again!! the people who disagree will still disagree and call MJ a chancer, Walter Mitty and the rest. Indeed he will probably get the blame for putting a spanner in works and distarcting Fry when he finally turns off the lights!!!! there are a lot of us who appreciate the effort because after all, he is representing the 'REAL' money man, nothing more, nothing less!! fair play for teh massive effort!!!!!!! I want a team, God, its like a stuck record!!!!! I pray today, i will pray tomorrow, that something is sorted soon, as we might not even make it to the fixture list!!!!

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so you are basing your assumptions from what is written on a forum??? Hardly fact is it :rolleyes:

 

Well to be fair i remember this idiot posting on the saints forum as do many on here. It was clear he had some agenda and was always talking about Lowe and Cowen etc

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For all you dissenters mocking LLS and SG you need to take a reality check

FFS open your friggin eyes nobody else wants two take us over at Least these two are doing their best to ensure our survival

and remember the dark forces are at work sabotaging every effort to ensure our survival . Wake up u fellow fans there are people on this forum who truly want us to disappear into the sands of time.

Look at logic and not the stupidity of a minority. With ou the likes of LLS and SG we are well and truly ****ed

 

Dragonov = LLS ? :smt031

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Well to be fair i remember this idiot posting on the saints forum as do many on here. It was clear he had some agenda and was always talking about Lowe and Cowen etc

does it matter????? You would rather lose the club would you?

As much as I love SFC at times I really think some fans deserve to lose it.

Then I look at people who have truly put theirt lives and hopes into it and then believe again.

If you think he is not good enough go and get on the phone and get a deal together if not shut the f### up until he fails and then pour your scorn, this is not just aimed at you but all the other smart a#### who sit there doing nothing but moan

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Would lose it anyway with those two clowns around.

Have you met them or had dealings with them? I dont know too much about eithers credentials, but I do know a couple of the figures behind the deal and they are no fools.

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So pray spill the beans then Nick - this thread will be totally academic then.;)
yeah right so they can be googled and then torn apart by fans/plants who all they want to do is put pictures up of them to pillory.

I care about the club too much to risk that thanks.

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yeah right so they can be googled and then torn apart by fans/plants who all they want to do is put pictures up of them to pillory.

I care about the club too much to risk that thanks.

 

ever get the impression that we are fighting a losing battle Nick?

 

If some idiots want to spout carp on an internet forum about people they know nothing about let them carry on. I for one would welcome any offer if it meant we have league football next season.

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ever get the impression that we are fighting a losing battle Nick?

 

If some idiots want to spout carp on an internet forum let them carry on. I for one would welcome any offer if it meant we have league football next season.

Yep I have just had a call and Rupert is on his way to the stadium with a cheque to buy us out....did I just hear your coffee mug get launched?
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I don't care who comes in as long as they can provide a plan to save our club. Let's just give this Jackson bloke a chance, and not let it divide the fans, we all support the same club, let's just get behind whoever comes in as they obviously want to help our club.

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ever get the impression that we are fighting a losing battle Nick?

 

If some idiots want to spout carp on an internet forum about people they know nothing about let them carry on. I for one would welcome any offer if it meant we have league football next season.

 

This is what makes me laugh. You and others who think that what is written on this forum makes any difference to whether or not somebody will or won't put a bid in to buy SFC. You're all legends in your own lunchbox.

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This is what makes me laugh. You and others who think that what is written on this forum makes any difference to whether or not somebody will or won't put a bid in to buy SFC. You're all legends in your own lunchbox.

For what its worth Mj did know what is said about him, Cherrypip etc. The fans who come on here are very much the ones who talk /asked about saints and their opinions are then propagated around the pubs etc. Do you think that MW posted on here just for fun and RL and others have put PR plants on here for no reason?

I agree in the main it is not that important but getting the message out cheaply is effective using this forum.The media outlets look for info on here

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I tell you what IF it comes off people who have posted some of this stuff will look fairly stupid, so go on with your nonsense.I doubt you'll have the substance to come on and apologise, but just melt away .Yes he may be a fantasist but Fry will look fairly stupid as well as he has ALL the info in front of him and so if he falls for it then his reputation will be damaged far more than fans like myself who just want him to be the real deal.

 

That didn't stop Krasner being taken in at B'mouth did it??

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For what its worth Mj did know what is said about him, Cherrypip etc. The fans who come on here are very much the ones who talk /asked about saints and their opinions are then propagated around the pubs etc. Do you think that MW posted on here just for fun and RL and others have put PR plants on here for no reason?

I agree in the main it is not that important but getting the message out cheaply is effective using this forum.The media outlets look for info on here

 

That might well explain why they spout such a load of crap then :-)

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I don't care who comes in as long as they can provide a plan to save our club. Let's just give this Jackson bloke a chance, and not let it divide the fans, we all support the same club, let's just get behind whoever comes in as they obviously want to help our club.

 

I disagree, I think he wants the kudos for saving a football club, any club will do. How can you explain his interest in B'mouth last time?

 

OK his interest might have been peeked when RL 'asked him' to sell his shares but, allegedly, he was also trying to make a lot of money from being the middle man in selling said shares, wasn't £.5M mooted at the time??

 

So, maybe RL could have sold his shares earlier if MJ hadn't been, allegedly, trying to make a nice commission??

 

I don't get the people who sit there and say 'well done he's making an effort, what have you done?'.

 

He's 'making an effort' because he can see some serious wonga at the end of the deal and he obviously has some spare time on his hands?

 

All IMHO of course

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That didn't stop Krasner being taken in at B'mouth did it??

That is why it rings true to me that MJ was left at the last minute holding the baby as an investor pulled out, and both were then in the mire.This is always a danger for the frontman in these deals.

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I disagree, I think he wants the kudos for saving a football club, any club will do. How can you explain his interest in B'mouth last time?

 

OK his interest might have been peeked when RL 'asked him' to sell his shares but, allegedly, he was also trying to make a lot of money from being the middle man in selling said shares, wasn't £.5M mooted at the time??

 

So, maybe RL could have sold his shares earlier if MJ hadn't been, allegedly, trying to make a nice commission??

 

I don't get the people who sit there and say 'well done he's making an effort, what have you done?'.

 

He's 'making an effort' because he can see some serious wonga at the end of the deal and he obviously has some spare time on his hands?

 

All IMHO of course

of course that is right.He has had the get up to do it though
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That is why it rings true to me that MJ was left at the last minute holding the baby as an investor pulled out, and both were then in the mire.This is always a danger for the frontman in these deals.

 

appears it has happened a lot then.

 

For the two years previous to this one, from the Paul Allen 'interest' through Dan Williams through to RL regaining control there has been one common thread in the 'rumours' and "it's going to happen on Friday" quotes on here and TSF!!

 

Are you telling me that every time he has been let down by his 'backers' or has he been embellishing things ever so slightly to his 'backers' so much so that they pull out when the realise the full extent of what is needed?

 

"A leopard can't change his spots" and "Crying wolf" come to mind!

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