Essruu Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Help with what FC ? is he a alcoholic ? or is he simply a very wealthy man with alot of time on his hands with an active social life ? the latter does not require help, simply understand, not only the law of the land but what all of us know that driving whilst impaired by drink can cause death to others, up the charges for all drink drivers to attempted murder. Definitely the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Having had my youngest brother knocked down and killed by a drunk driver 8 years ago leaving a wife and 3 children under 10 you will no doubt appreciate I have no sympathy with the man. Edit. I have to add the driver remained at the scene pleaded guilty and got 3 years.If guilty I hope the courts come down hard on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 The guy has sunken in my estimation of him frankly. There is no excuse whatsoever for getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking in excess of legal limits. You might as well have a loaded gun in your hands. Claus enjoyed all the trappings of success at Saints and many youngsters look up to their football heroes. He has acted in a manner that does nothing to enhance his profession or his continued status at the club. Its yet another episode in the sad times the club is experiencing and I wonder whether Claus enjoyed Burleys company at a bar or two? Can't understand anyone who attempts to condone or support this guys actions and I hope he gets put away and never returns to SFC frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Exactly, he is still a legend, anyone who qualifies for a Testimonial deserves that status. What he done on the pitch, and what he does off the pitch are two completely different things and I will hold different opinions for each. He had already earned a fortune, but he still looked for another pay day with his testimonial game. Legend, pah, he only stayed cos no one else wanted to pay him more than we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Legend, pah, he only stayed cos no one else wanted to pay him more than we did. Celtic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 he only stayed cos no one else wanted to pay him more than we did. Should probably read...no one else 'needed' to pay him more than we did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 He had already earned a fortune, but he still looked for another pay day with his testimonial game. Legend, pah, he only stayed cos no one else wanted to pay him more than we did. Exactly & the reason why I did not attend his testimonial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 He had already earned a fortune, but he still looked for another pay day with his testimonial game. Legend, pah, he only stayed cos no one else wanted to pay him more than we did. He was staight off if he had the chance, just no one would stump up 1.5 million, they obviously didn't rate him as a legend! As for my opinion, laughing with Yakubo when we were 4-1 down and ducking Downing's equaliser makes me see him somewhat differently to a lot of people. And Stu Saint Romsey, noticed you had just one reply to your original provocation, as everyone seemed uninterested you came back for more 'attention' and got it for some more uneducated drivel. You know when you were organising that protest i thought fair play but since then reading your posts and more than ever today, you are just a bit of a **** really. Au revoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Exactly & the reason why I did not attend his testimonial. would (almost) have rather gone to FP than his testy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Still a legend in my eyes. Apart from that Pompey performance someone mentioned earlier. the word "legend" is , in my view, used too often......MLT was definitely a "legend".....Claus?.....NAH He was a good pairing with Dean Richards beside him and latterly Svensson.........but in my view he needed a strong central defensive partner to guide him..........he was less adequate as a leader......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 No matter how good he was the rest of the time he was here, he was crap in our relegation season and thats what I remember him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson massey Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 The guy has sunken in my estimation of him frankly. There is no excuse whatsoever for getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking in excess of legal limits. You might as well have a loaded gun in your hands. Claus enjoyed all the trappings of success at Saints and many youngsters look up to their football heroes. He has acted in a manner that does nothing to enhance his profession or his continued status at the club. Its yet another episode in the sad times the club is experiencing and I wonder whether Claus enjoyed Burleys company at a bar or two? Can't understand anyone who attempts to condone or support this guys actions and I hope he gets put away and never returns to SFC frankly. Agreed, in my eyes there is simply no excuse for driving under the influence, so many people have had their lives destroyed (and their families lives) by the sheer arrogance of people who think that this is a good idea and ok to do I liked claus as a player (except for the last season or so) and always respected him - i still like him for what he did as a player, by my overall estimation of him has dropped and my respect for him has almost dissapeared Only applies if true of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 This news even made it into the Swedish papers - a long time ago since we got some good news : ( http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotbollsbladet/internationell/norge/article5193252.ab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 This news even made it into the Swedish papers - a long time ago since we got some good news : ( http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotbollsbladet/internationell/norge/article5193252.ab Love that headline "Norske fotbollsstjärnan krockade rattfull"... Without speaking a word of Swedish I could tell it was about a Norweigian footballer in drunken car crash incident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 take it like a man! May well have to where hes going if guilty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 New avatar? That'll do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Love that headline "Norske fotbollsstjärnan krockade rattfull"... Without speaking a word of Swedish I could tell it was about a Norweigian footballer in drunken car crash incident! rattfull is now my new word for going on on the pi$s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 If I should translate the word for "real" Rattfull is stearingwheel drunk : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 rattfull is now my new word for going on on the pi$s. It's my stag-do on saturday and I intend to drink a "rattfull"! :drinkers: :smt030 :partyman: ...and on Sunday morning I'll no doubt be feeling a bit "krockade"! :vom: :smt013 :smt078 :toimonster: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 ...and on Sunday morning I'll no doubt be feeling a bit "krockade"! :vom: :smt013 :smt078 :toimonster: Get used to it, that what married life feels like every morning for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Lundekvam was a brilliant player for Southampton and a fantastic servant to the club. He was a first-class captain for us and we've never replaced either he or Svensson in the heart of our defence. However, the words 'legend' and 'role-model' are not appropriate IMO. It's been well publicised that he always enjoyed a drink during his playing days, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, but this certainly isn't the type of 'role-model' I'd want my kids to look up to. Add to that the fact that he smokes too and it's hardly the habits you'd want a Premiership footballer to have! Anyway, there is no way that anybody can condone what Claus has done re: drink-driving offence. If guilty, he should hold his hands up and accept his punishment. There is no way his actions can be justified. Drink-driving is something that cannot and should not be tolerated at all. Whilst I'll always love and appreciate what Claus did on the pitch at Saints, his actions that have come to light today disappoint me greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 About him smoking - he´s uses what we in the nordic countries calles wet tobaco or snuff. Tobaco that you put under your lip. If your out drinking you will get this snuff into your mouth and its not really healty for your tummy - you can get cancer as well under the lip offcourse since its tobaco. Im not defending him about his smoking - he shouldnt do this snuff either I think - but many athlethes in Sweden especially football and Icehockey players uses this alot. So thats why he smokes when hes ****ed - he dont want snuff into his mouth - and In some countries its against the law to use snuff and Im not sure if UK allows it or not ? Even Nilsson and Jakobsson uses this snuff so they probbably did some smoking as well if they went to the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 If I should translate the word for "real" Rattfull is stearingwheel drunk : ) Hi Patrik, I remember the English criminal charge as : " Driving whilst under the influence of drink (or drugs) " ...unless they've re-worded it since. the other part of the charge is probably; " failing to report an accident " or " leaving the scene of an accident " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Yeah, and Dennis Wise :smt117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Surprised nobody has started a whip-around for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 He'll get a fine, disqual from driving for 12 months + points. He won't go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 He'll get a fine, disqual from driving for 12 months + points. He won't go to jail. Thanks for that Judge - he'll sleep easier tonight knowing that...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Interesting that many lambasted others for speaking out that the man did not deserve a testimonial given his wages whilst at the club and that the term legend was perhaps inappropriate given other widely acknowledged Saints legends. True to form those same people who supported Claus so vociferously are equally quick to condem him and only goes to show that a legend can quickly fade if they do not remain responsible for upholding their respected status. Only this week I was questioned when I challenged the opinion of one poster that he could forgive MLT anything because of his past role at the club. I think this proves that sweeping statements like that don't hold true. For the record I don't include Weston Saint in my analysis as sadly he has justifiably different reasons to find Claus's actions abhorrent. It is right he should be prosecuted and punished accordingly and that those who questioned his motives for a Testimonial as an 'opportunity to say goodbye' seem to have their questions answered by a man who believes it is morally acceptable today to drive under the influence of drink or drugs. The morning after scenario does not partly excuse the crime in any way whatsoever. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 20 May, 2009 Share Posted 20 May, 2009 Thanks for that Judge - he'll sleep easier tonight knowing that...! Haha, just predictable what he'll be given. People have done worse and got off with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 21 May, 2009 Share Posted 21 May, 2009 This post is a load of old pony, but the most incredible thing is that SRS tries to bestow "legend" status upon old Claus Lukewarm. FFS, that is stretching it a bit. He was a half decent centre back at best and he's now confirmed he's better at being a ****head than he was a defender. load of boll*cks he is a complete legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 May, 2009 Share Posted 21 May, 2009 Surprised nobody has started a whip-around for him. LOL. Do you think McMenemy + Osman may start to organise a Q & A evening? If so i wonder whose head they'll put in the noose this time - just for a laugh mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 May, 2009 Share Posted 21 May, 2009 load of boll*cks he is a complete legend IMO I think he was over-played and over paid and not deserving of a testimonial let alone 'legend' status. If Claus is a legend what does that make those who are widely acknowledged as legends? Before you know it you run out of superlatives. He was a solid and loyal centreback and thanks to killer made to look a lot better than he was in reality. The cashier in my local building society is very loyal, hard working and great with customers and been in the job for 35 years but I don't waltz in and say' Hello, you are legend'. Only in football, I suppose the phrase he is a 'true sporting legend' will be wheeled out soon. Complete legend? More bellend IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Posted 21 May, 2009 Share Posted 21 May, 2009 I'm sorry for Claus, though I think he must stand up for his mistake, but the writing was on the wall (IMHO) even in the 2002 Cup Final. He had a real stinker trying to mark Thierry Henry (who wouldn't) but I think that took his confidence as he wasn't the same player afterwards. Was that when he was on loan at Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 21 May, 2009 Share Posted 21 May, 2009 load of boll*cks he is a complete legend Yep. Anyone who gets a testimonial has the right to call themselves a legend. Performance-wise, Lundekvam was twice the player Benali was, and he is classed as a Southampton 'legend' Benali is a legend for having absolutely no skill and still managing to get into a Saints team, time and time again. Once again, anyone who has a testimonialhas the right to be classed as a legend. 357 appearances for Southampton makes Claus just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 Yep. Anyone who gets a testimonial has the right to call themselves a legend. Performance-wise, Lundekvam was twice the player Benali was, and he is classed as a Southampton 'legend' Benali is a legend for having absolutely no skill and still managing to get into a Saints team, time and time again. Once again, anyone who has a testimonialhas the right to be classed as a legend. 357 appearances for Southampton makes Claus just that. 357 appearances for Southampton also explains why he drinks too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 http://www.fotbollsexpressen.se/Nyheter/1.1578928/lundekvam-jag-akte-for-att-hamta-hjalp He has talked to Norwiegan newspaper about the accident. He says that he was involved offcourse but he only left to go and get help. He checked that the other driver was ok and when he saw that he was OK he left the motorway to go and get help - Dont he have a mobilephone the poor thing ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 Nicked via his number plate ive heard 'c1aus' ?? after driving away he was nicked at his house. Arrested and breathlysed at station where he was still over the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 When he goes to court I hope he does not provide his own defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 Thinking of you Claus at this tough time for you and your family. xx Not to mention the other families.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 For drink driving and also driving away from the scene of an accident. Bailed til 28th May. Front page of the Echo. Nothing takeover wise. Just after his last ankle op, I saw him getting petrol for his landrover-y thing. He still had his leg /ankle/foot in plaster and his foot was totally immobile, but he was still driving. I think the guy is a pillock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 May, 2009 Share Posted 22 May, 2009 Exactly, he is still a legend, anyone who qualifies for a Testimonial deserves that status. What he done on the pitch, and what he does off the pitch are two completely different things and I will hold different opinions for each. But this is a thread about his actions off the pitch. Just like if there was a thread about Claus the footballer his drink driving wouldn't really be valid, so him as a footballer really isn't valid on this thread and it certainly doesn't excuse his behaviour, all drink drivers are ****s and I include myself for everytime I've done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Times have changed. It used to be that drink driving was "about getting away with it". Nowadays people understand much better why those rules exist. Circumstances can sometimes transpire where a mistake or error of judgement can be made or some form of emergency exists, but on almost every occassion, Drink Driving is about stupid egotistical decision making. Taxis, buses, trains and nowadays, Premier Inns exist. If circumstances catch you out there is always an option that would cost you no more than 60 quid and some inconvenience. But no, many DD's still don't think like that, they are "OK after a few". DD is as Weston shows idiotic, moronic and downright plain anti-social. It is a mental attitude issue, mainly about not realising how your own actions could impact upon other people's lives, or let's say - arrogance. As to whether being idiotic, moronic or downright plain anti-social should impact on how a persons performance on a football field should be interpreted or remembered, well, that's a different argument altogether. Out of the thousands of professional footballers in the leagues, how many of them are truly "without flaws"? DD is wrong and the penalties for causing harm to another human being are too soft, luckily, even with a good excuse, the law still stays the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Meh, check out all you gumbo's. I personally don't give a f*ck what Claus does in his own time, especially now when he has absolutely nothing to do with SFC. Get off your high horses people, legends make their names on that green bit of grass on the pitch, they don't lose that status for what they do off it, when they have retired. Once again Stu confirms he is a piece of sh1t, the very dregs of humanity. The world would be a better place with pr1cks like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybeal Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Its wrong - but if Claus says he hit the bottle after he got home - he'll get away with it. I saw a program on telly where a polish lorry driver ran back to his cab at the ferry terminal at Skatesmouth and put a bottle to his mouth - the police then couldnt prove whether he'd been drinking before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 He should be very happy he did this in the UK and not in Norway. In Norway I think they fine according to income/fortune so he would get a rather high fine for this. On the other hand the Nordics are a bit more lenient when it comes to prison sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 The only thing I'm thinking is 'you stupid ****'! Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 I Hope he learns from the experience. He was legend as a saints player but that doesn't mean he doesn't have his own personal demons to front up to. If he's got to this stage i'd hope the experience would make him confront his issues with alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 I saw a program on telly where a polish lorry driver ran back to his cab at the ferry terminal at Skatesmouth and put a bottle to his mouth - the police then couldnt prove whether he'd been drinking before. Thats called perverting the course of justice and he should have gone to prison for the seriousness of the offence, either those coppers couldn't be arsed or don't know the law they are their to enforce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Don't care who it is that commits the crime be it our Claus a skate, a munure player, rock star, actor, or any other rich or famous person it is about time that the police & courts are given the powers to make an example of them & hand out large means tested fines & massive jail sentences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 6 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Oh dear, first drink driving and fleeing the scene of a crash, then in March found with drugs and now he's been bailed until May 11th for assaulting a woman, what's next Claus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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