Suing/Claiming negligence against the NHS

[Give it to Ron]

its free parking at Hythe hospital!

 

and Romsey.....

[Give it to Ron]

Ron, I wasn't talking about SGH - I don't know anything about it and I said so (apart from the bit about Mr TF having worked there in the past). But if you extrapolate the points I made about parking spaces, bed numbers, outpatient numbers and staff numbers in Oxford to SGH (a much larger hospital I believe) you'll understand the point I was making.

 

What would your solution be to ensure that genuine users had access to SGH parking spaces as far as possible, and to maintain the car parks (by that I mean repair, gardening, litter picking etc.)?

 

I say again, most hospitals have policies whereby long-stay patients and their visitors get at least discounted parking. You might be interested to read Oxford's policy.

 

http://www.oxfordradcliffe.nhs.uk/findus/jr/jrcar.pdf

 

I'm sure SGH has something similar. Indeed, although I couldn't find the info on staff numbers, beds, numbers of parking spaces etc. I did find this about concessions:

 

The maximum charge for patients and visitors is £6.00 for one visit in any 24 hour period. If you stay longer than 6 hours, please obtain a parking discount voucher from the ward or department you have been visiting and take it at the security desk located at the main entrance to the hospital.

 

There are special concessions available for some of our patients receiving treatments. Further information regarding these can be obtained direct from the department.

Long stay parking

 

If you need to use the car park for more than a few days, it may be worthwhile considering purchasing a long-stay ticket.

Long stay tickets allow unlimited parking for either 7 days at £14.00, 14 days at £28.00 or 30 days at £42.00

 

 

People are very quick to leap onto the 'let's knock the NHS' bandwagon without actually thinking through the ramifications of free parking.

 

Where the fck am I jumping on the NHS bandwagon? I have explained exactly where and how they can achieve this at SGH but as it doesn't suit your agenda and again I proved you wrong about hospital parking in town centres...I gave 4 examples you just throw that **** line in at the end!

Pray you don't end up having to go to casualty and sit there for 4 hours at SGH or have to visit a sick relative.

Read what I posted there is no reason why the charges are that high! nowhere have I said it should be free!!!

[bridge too far]

Where the fck am I jumping on the NHS bandwagon? I have explained exactly where and how they can achieve this at SGH but as it doesn't suit your agenda and again I proved you wrong about hospital parking in town centres...I gave 4 examples you just throw that **** line in at the end!

Pray you don't end up having to go to casualty and sit there for 4 hours at SGH or have to visit a sick relative.

Read what I posted there is no reason why the charges are that high! nowhere have I said it should be free!!!

 

Grovelling apology - I've just read back and I can see you said that you dind't think parking should be free. Sorry.

 

However, I did, with respect, also point out that SGH charges are less than Portsmouth and certainly less than Oxford where the hospital is in a comparative location to QA, and that there are concessions. Where demand exceeds supply there will always be a cost attached. Even with the charges, there are often no available spaces if the SGH website is to be believed. The Park and Ride I was referring to was for staff, BTW.

 

I do also recall, many years ago before my local hospital charged for parking, I turned up one day with my 2 year old daughter who had concussion from slipping on ice and banging her head. There weren't any parking spaces available (because they were all free and therefore, it's safe to assume, being abused) and it was suggested that either I leave the 2 year old in A & E with my 4 year old while I went to the nearest public car park or that I parked in said public car park and carried a concussed child, whilst holding the hand of a 4 year old and walking on icy pavements! I would have welcomed a regulated car park back then.

[Give it to Ron]

I do also recall, many years ago before my local hospital charged for parking, I turned up one day with my 2 year old daughter who had concussion from slipping on ice and banging her head. There weren't any parking spaces available (because they were all free and therefore, it's safe to assume, being abused) and it was suggested that either I leave the 2 year old in A & E with my 4 year old while I went to the nearest public car park or that I parked in said public car park and carried a concussed child, whilst holding the hand of a 4 year old and walking on icy pavements! I would have welcomed a regulated car park back then.

 

SGH has a slot right outside its doors of A&E for such cases and its not widely known. It has a time restriction but enough time to get sorted.

I also now know of several cheaper options very close to SGH than use the stupidly priced car park.

As I explained in my previous thread the SGH staff park&ride is not popular as there was an incident where 40 cars were damaged by idiots running amok in the "bull ring" where it was located.

[Big John]

My partner works at the General and I take them there and pick them up. I must confess to knowing a few 'ways around' the current system, but when I arrive half an hour early (sometimes I am on time but she is asked to stay due to unforeen circumstances) I should by rights be paying for the privilege of sitting waiting to pick her up. Is this right? It is not.

 

Is it also okay for a consultant to have FREE parking at hospitals? I accept that they are highly trained and brilliant people but why are they not treated like us mere mortals when their salary should reflect that. I also ask the same question of some senior managers, what makes them so special that they are excempt form the stealth tax that other staff have to pay. Ironically or annoyingly they are two groups who CAN afford to pay yet due to their high earnings probably live far eniough away from Coxford to need a car to get there.

 

btf, do you pay to park?

 

I don't mind and expect to be corrected on some of my points, but would appreciate an answer to the last question please?

BJ

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My partner works at the General and I take them there and pick them up. I must confess to knowing a few 'ways around' the current system, but when I arrive half an hour early (sometimes I am on time but she is asked to stay due to unforeen circumstances) I should by rights be paying for the privilege of sitting waiting to pick her up. Is this right? It is not.

 

Is it also okay for a consultant to have FREE parking at hospitals? I accept that they are highly trained and brilliant people but why are they not treated like us mere mortals when their salary should reflect that. I also ask the same question of some senior managers, what makes them so special that they are excempt form the stealth tax that other staff have to pay. Ironically or annoyingly they are two groups who CAN afford to pay yet due to their high earnings probably live far eniough away from Coxford to need a car to get there.

 

btf, do you pay to park?

 

I don't mind and expect to be corrected on some of my points, but would appreciate an answer to the last question please?

BJ

 

I don't work for the NHS any longer John, but I did for many years both before and after parking charges were introduced (around about 1990 IIRC). As I keep telling Ron, I haven't had to park at SGH because I don't live locally but my other half used to work there and had to use the P & R.

 

I agree with you about consultants and senior managers getting free parking. Usually the criterion is that they actually need to use their cars as part of their work e.g. commuting between sites for clinics and theatre sessions. I know when I managed a hospital car park in Buckinghamshire we tried to get the consultants to pay (all other staff did, including senior managers) but we lost our case because they threatened to withdraw their labour!

 

And Ron - it's good to know SGH have 'short stay' parking outside A & E. So does the hospital I was referring to re my daughter - now. But it didn't at the time when parking was free and therefore oversubscribed. And that's the main thrust of my argument, really.

[Ponty]

It's free parking at St Luke's, Oxford.

 

Oh, wait a minute, that's private.

[these things take time]

I have studied negligence, and in my opinion it would not be worth taking it any further, as you would not win.

[Jillyanne]

Hospital car park charges are extortionate (sp) imho, having been there all week last week. Why should we have pay to see a sick relative, having paid National Insurance I am bloody sure this should go towards car parking.

[hamster]

Hospital car park charges are extortionate (sp) imho, having been there all week last week. Why should we have pay to see a sick relative, having paid National Insurance I am bloody sure this should go towards car parking.

 

 

Could not agree more, and considering the reason you were there Jill, isn't it quite offensive? I think so. Last month both my brother and I had to follow an ambliance to the Gen and although we did (eventually) get out FOC I found it quite difficult not to lose my rag with them. There are times when you really do not need it, you really don't.

 

No matter how it is dressed up, it is a tax on the sick and their loved ones.