Solent news.

[ART]

When Norway won the Eurovision I couldn't stop thinking how the title of the winning song so applied to Saints supporters over the past few weeks. "Fairytale" is so appropriate,

 

Chorus

Saints fans caught up by a fairytale

All the rumours have wasted their minds

Strung along by a Fairytale.

So bad we're running out of time

[SFKA South Woodford]

Absolutely agree. It will have a massive knock on effect on the City. Saints is part of our history and our heritage - to see it go under would be catastrophic.

 

To add to my bad (and increasingly bitter) mood today, have just been reading yesterdays Observer about the World Cup Bid (to be unveiled tomorrow), Portsmouth being a major part of it - after increasing the capacity of FP to 30,000 if the bid is successful they will build a "40 or 45,000 capacity stadium at Port Solent". Say what we want about them, the club has done well, and their City has benefitted - they also seem to have done a decent job as a city council attracting industry as well as major events (e.g. the round the world yacht race) as well as building tourist attractions - the Spinnaker Tower, developing Port Solent etc. Southampton as a City always seems to be talking about things, rather than doing them. Oh, of course we now have Ikea - whoopi doo!

 

Agree with you there, I could hardly believe it when I watched the interview with the guy from the bid and he was saying that that they were going to provide finance for ground building and redevelopment in the south.

 

As we all know, our fishy neighbours are the only ones in need of that at present.

 

So it sounds as though the World Cup bid is going to build them a new stadium at little expense to their club, lucky b**tards.

 

With all of the money that gets given to that dump of a city absolutely free, i'm surprised that the national lottery jackpot is not won by someone from skatesmouth every week.

[Third Division South Days]

Quite. I thought it might get better after we went into administration, but there are about 10-12 regular posters on here who seem to be interested in nothing except arguing about who was to blame when. Lowe v Wilde v Crouch v Askham v ....

 

What bloody difference does it make?

 

All I care about is whether I will have a club to support next year.

 

Please will the serial arguers keep off threads that start with something approaching news and stick to threads with titles such as "Lowe is crap. Oh no he isn't. Oh yes he is ..."? Then maybe the rest of us won't have to read pages of their vitriolic irrelevances in our futile attempt to find out something that actually matters.

 

K.

 

Well put. There is a limited number of posters who hijack every thread with posts that are long winded, repetitive and have become very boring to the majority.

 

Im interested in the views and opinions of whats happening today which are about the future of the club.

 

If posters want to keep talking about events leading up to administration it should be on relevant threads

[OldNick]

Agree with you there, I could hardly believe it when I watched the interview with the guy from the bid and he was saying that that they were going to provide finance for ground building and redevelopment in the south.

 

As we all know, our fishy neighbours are the only ones in need of that at present.

 

So it sounds as though the World Cup bid is going to build them a new stadium at little expense to their club, lucky b**tards.

 

With all of the money that gets given to that dump of a city absolutely free, i'm surprised that the national lottery jackpot is not won by someone from skatesmouth every week.

Well lets hope we dont get the woprld cup then.i dont wish to pay tax so the skates get a free stadium

[John B]

Our problems started at the time of the reverse take - over, (and no this is not an anti-Lowe rant) and from that point until around 2003 we muddled through with a combination of luck, having MLT and certain amount of good stewardship. Sadly the continual "revolving door" of managers, lack of sensible investment in the team led to relegation. Despite some people saying that relegation was inevitable, it wasn`t. No club has a divine right to be in the Premiership but we could quite easily have still been there how many points were we away from safety?). Since relegation it has been one catalogue of disasterous boardroom decisions. All of the participents in the soap opera that has taken place at SMS must take their proportion of blame. Wilde for changing sides, Lowe for his continual "experiments" (SCW, the Dutch Revolution et al) and belief that he was some sort of football guru, Crouch etc for the gamble they took to get promotion before the parachute payment ran out and Hone, Hoos and all of the others for their "Mitchell Brothers" contribution. To suggest that the reason for all of our problems is because of the "mis-management" during the months that Crouch was in the Chair is simplistic. It didn`t help but it was just part of the horrific jig-saw that Saints have become. It is a bit like saying that WW2 happened because Hitler was a naughty boy. We all know that situations like this are far from simple

 

 

Yes well said Miserable Old Git I totally agree a combination of circumstances not entirely one persons fault but probably it was Inevitable that one day we would be relegated from a purely stitistical point of view

[SW11_Saint]

Quite. I thought it might get better after we went into administration, but there are about 10-12 regular posters on here who seem to be interested in nothing except arguing about who was to blame when. Lowe v Wilde v Crouch v Askham v ....

 

What bloody difference does it make?

 

All I care about is whether I will have a club to support next year.

 

Please will the serial arguers keep off threads that start with something approaching news and stick to threads with titles such as "Lowe is crap. Oh no he isn't. Oh yes he is ..."? Then maybe the rest of us won't have to read pages of their vitriolic irrelevances in our futile attempt to find out something that actually matters.

 

K.

Dear Rev. Tone,

 

Thanks for the sermon, very nice. Although I agree that the most important thing now is to focus on the future and sealing a deal for the club, I think it is naive, to say the least, to expect people on an Internet message board - especially in the absence of any concrete information on what the future holds - to NOT get into conversations about "how we got here", or moreover, to start to wonder "why we got here?" and "who got us here?". I for one am still very f*cked off, very very f*cked off in fact, that we're in this position at all. Now, you might think that childish, useless or just a waste of my own time, but it still doesn't stop me being f*cked off, very very f*cked off in fact (have I already said that?), at our predicament.

 

I wonder if those who were lucky enough to survive the Titanic thought - "Blimey, that was close! - oh well, let's just row back and get on with our lives...". Or I wonder if they thought "F*ck! Why did that happen?". Likewise, should everyone post WWII, have packed up their old kit bags, shrugged their shoulders, and got on with life without asking a few questions of Adolf's boys? ("Ere Tommy, who was behind all that Nazi nonsense?", "Aw, what difference does it make Ernie, let's 'av a pint".). My (ridiculously laboured) point being that you cannot expect people to go through a traumatic experience and expect them not to ask questions about how it came about, or who was involved in getting us there, who had accountability etc. and, imo, nor should you - it's not healthy. You also cannot expect people to contain these 'discussion' to one or two posts - since they're germaine to pretty much everything going on at the club right now and just, well, seep out.

 

So, ignore those of us who might dare to throw in a name or two when the red mist descends and just get on with whatever you want to talk about. Perhaps there will be a time for "truth & reconciliation" in the future, but I gotta tell you - I'm not ready for it yet...

 

Yours, nowhere near as holy as thou,

 

SW11

Edited 19 May, 2009 by SW11_Saint

[Legod Third Coming]

Yet sky will tell us it's getting better and better. As I heard yesterday, this has been the best premiership season ever. hmmm. same champions again, winning easily with time to spare thanks to a drab, lifeless 0-0 draw. tops scorers getting 18 goals, west brom relegated from the start, villa failing to make the top 4 sweat. the only thing of interest is newcastles demise. that is it.

 

yet the premier league and sky will be glad to see saints and other clubs disappear as they'll expect many fans will adopt premiership teams (and i bet many do).

 

You cannot blame Sky. Football's adminstrators and Bosman yes. All Sky did was repackage football and make the Premiership the envy of the world. The FA and Football League simply didn't work hard enough to ensure that the income generated was distributed fairly - and frankly nor did we care when we were on the gravy train...

[DaintyDave]

Perhaps the point is more that there are a dozen threads dedicated to the blame game, no need to trot out the same tired arguments on every thread.

 

E.G. Title of thread "Solent News" - topic, has a deal fallen through because the 11am news was unclear..........

 

 

 

Dear Rev. Tone,

 

Thanks for the sermon, very nice. Although I agree that the most important thing now is to focus on the future and sealing a deal for the club, I think it is naive, to say the least, to expect people on an Internet message board - especially in the absence of any concrete information on what the future holds - to NOT get into conversations about "how we got here", or moreover, to start to wonder "why we got here?" and "who got us here?". I for one am still very f*cked off, very very f*cked off in fact, that we're in this position at all. Now, you might think that childish, useless or just a waste of my own time, but it still doesn't stop me being f*cked off, very very f*cked off in fact (have I already said that?), at our predicament.

 

I wonder if those who were lucky enough to survive the Titanic thought - "Blimey, that was close! - oh well, let's just row back and get on with our lives...". Or I wonder if they thought "F*ck! Why did that happen?". Likewise, should everyone post WWII, have packed up their old kit bags, shrugged their shoulders, and got on with life without asking a few questions of Adolf's boys? ("Ere Tommy, who was behind all that Nazi nonsense?", "Aw, what difference does it make Ernie, let's 'av a pint".). My (ridiculously laboured) point being that you cannot expect people to go through a traumatic experience and expect them not to ask questions about how it came about, or who was involved in getting us there, who had accountability etc. and, imo, nor should you - it's not healthy. You also cannot expect people to contain these 'discussion' to one or two posts - since they're germaine to pretty much everything going on at the club right now and just, well, seep out.

 

So, ignore those of us who might dare to throw in a name or two when the red mist descends and just get on with whatever you want to talk about. Perhaps there will be a time for "truth & reconciliation" in the future, but I gotta tell you - I'm not ready for it yet...

 

Yours, nowhere near as holy as thou,

 

SW11

[SW11_Saint]

Perhaps the point is more that there are a dozen threads dedicated to the blame game, no need to trot out the same tired arguments on every thread.

 

E.G. Title of thread "Solent News" - topic, has a deal fallen through because the 11am news was unclear..........

Yeah, got that - but it's like King Canute and those waves...

[DaintyDave]

Didn't they do Walking on Sunshine? Great tune.

[SW11_Saint]

Didn't they do Walking on Sunshine? Great tune.

Like it - and did Eurovision one year... think they replaced Canute with some bird though...