Deadline now Monday

[Nineteen Canteen]

Only voted Liberal when tactically voting NC.

Won't be voting for anyone next election mind you.

 

Not even Mr Whitehead? Did he claim a s/t on expenses under the guise of a constituent's meeting? Otherwise, I agree with you. A bit like this club we need proportional representation because a vote in these parts is a vote wasted.

[The Rover]

I think someone is winding you up Holbury. On one occassion when 19 posted, at the same time Andrew Cowen was sat down eating. I know, I was in the room at the time.

 

I also know who 19 is and he is definately not Andrew Cowen. The owners of this forum will confirm.

 

 

I think it's about time I outed NC. He is in fact the original wild thing from Andover - Mr Reg Presley. :smt038

[Verbal]

I think it's about time I outed NC. He is in fact the original wild thing from Andover - Mr Reg Presley. :smt038

 

So not a troll after all, but a Trogg.

 

Don't buy it though - the only things that make Reg's heart sing these days are UFOs and crop circles.

 

Unless...

 

Maybe someone should try pulling Lowe's face off to see if there's something green and reptilian underneath.

 

Anyway, I've met Reg and he's a very pleasant chap (if a little obsessed) - so can't be the same...

[docker-p]

I think the 'mystery foreign bid' is a red herring designed to smoke out bids from domestic parties. Why would a foreign bidder be interested in you? There's nothing but debt, debt and more debt, and precious little income. If you were still in the Premiership I could see the possibility, but out of it? No chance. It'll be a local fans consortium or a UK based chancer at best.....

 

You don't know what you're talking about Numbnuts. Any purchaser could buy the club with a state of the art stadium, which would cost about £40m to build now, for about £10m.

 

Investment a few more millions and be back in the Premiership in a few years.

 

Or buy PFC maybe, a club who can't sell out a cowshed of a ground, (why does the attendance figure always read the same yet some games you can see acres of empty seats?) with no chance or money to build anything better, and no chance of filling it even if you did, and dozens of ageing players on massive wages and long contracts. All for £40m ???

Clown.

[miserableoldgit]

You don't know what you're talking about Numbnuts. Any purchaser could buy the club with a state of the art stadium, which would cost about £40m to build now, for about £10m.

 

Investment a few more millions and be back in the Premiership in a few years.

 

Or buy PFC maybe, a club who can't sell out a cowshed of a ground, (why does the attendance figure always read the same yet some games you can see acres of empty seats?) with no chance or money to build anything better, and no chance of filling it even if you did, and dozens of ageing players on massive wages and long contracts. All for £40m ???

Clown.

I think that you are doing clowns an injustice here!

[Matthew Le God]

St. Marys is far from "state of the art".

 

Wembley or Emirates are state of the art and groundbreaking stadiums. St. Mary's is a bog standard 30k new ground like many others around the country.

[miserableoldgit]

St. Marys is far from "state of the art".

 

Wembley or Emirates are state of the art and groundbreaking stadiums. St. Mary's is a bog standard 30k new ground like many others around the country.

Still a universe away from Krap Nottarf.

[Matthew Le God]

Still a universe away from Krap Nottarf.

 

Yes it is. However it is nothing special.

[miserableoldgit]

Yes it is. However it is nothing special.

Compared with what? O.K. the top Prem teams have magnificent stadia, but don`t underestimate what we have. It was considered good enough to host an England World Cup qualifier.

[Leslie Charteris]

And it seems Sir Clive has put in a good word for us now we're part of the Rugby World Cup bid.

[niceandfriendly]

St. Marys is far from "state of the art".

 

Wembley or Emirates are state of the art and groundbreaking stadiums. St. Mary's is a bog standard 30k new ground like many others around the country.

 

SMS may not be as posh as Wembley but to describe it as "bog standard" is very very strange. Have you ever been there?

[Matthew Le God]

SMS may not be as posh as Wembley but to describe it as "bog standard" is very very strange. Have you ever been there?

 

I didn't say bog standard. I said "bog standard for a new ground". Plenty of teams now have similar quality and aren't in the Premiership, Derby, Coventry, MK Dons, Leicester etc.

 

My original point a few posts back is that it was wrong to call St. Mary's "state of the art". This term is often wrongly used and in St. Mary's case a 30 million pound stadium is clearly not state of the art compared to many other clubs around the world spending over 100m on stadiums.

 

I'm not saying St Mary's isn't a good stadium. It clearly is. But lets not over do it

 

Oh, and yes I have been there many many times

Edited 16 May, 2009 by Matthew Le God

[SFC Forever]

The SMS stadium has only one major drawback in my book. At our old ground "The Dell" we were often in touching distance of the players as we were so close to the action. When our new ground was built this should have been incorporated into the plans.

The closer you are to the action the greater the feeling of being a part of it. When we had a full house the ground really rocked. At SMS you are quite a bit away and this can have a detrimental effect on the crowd and the players. Especially when a large proportion of our support was brought up in the hallowed ground now defunct.

SMS is a relatively well built stadium but it was not built in my opinion first and foremost with the support in mind. We were only in my view, ever considered as a means of revenue.

[Junior Mullet]

The Echo says that the holdup is a delay in Pinnacle signing a legal contract which commits them to paying a £500K non-returnable deposit...

 

I once spent a fortnight negotiating one of these for a client - they can be a real *****! Especially when the other parties prattle around.

[Junior Mullet]

I didn't say bog standard. I said "bog standard for a new ground". Plenty of teams now have similar quality and aren't in the Premiership, Derby, Coventry, MK Dons, Leicester etc.

 

My original point a few posts back is that it was wrong to call St. Mary's "state of the art". This term is often wrongly used and in St. Mary's case a 30 million pound stadium is clearly not state of the art compared to many other clubs around the world spending over 100m on stadiums.

 

I'm not saying St Mary's isn't a good stadium. It clearly is. But lets not over do it

 

Oh, and yes I have been there many many times

 

It is indeed bog standard for a new stadium of its size. They almost seem to come out of a box - they're so similar. Soul-less functional box of a stadium.

[St_Tel49]

It is indeed bog standard for a new stadium of its size. They almost seem to come out of a box - they're so similar. Soul-less functional box of a stadium.

 

The same could be said of almost any construction these days.

[Graffito]

Having been born and brought up in Southampton but having lived in London for most of my life I'm always struck when visiting Southampton for home games by the hideous architecture approved by the planners. SMS is better than the IKEA store (doesn't deserve capitals), which isn't saying much, and the steel structures on the roof are vaguely nautical in keeping with the stadium's location, but overall it's bland and identikit like so many modern buildings in the city. On the other hand, in recognition of the fact that the stadium debt is a millstone around the club's neck, I guess we should be pleased that construction costs were relatively low. Inside the stadium the view is excellent (I often recall that I never saw a corner at the Dell from one season to the next) and when all's said and done, it's the people that go to SMS that make it special.

[thorpie the sinner]

I just wonder if the preferred bidder deadline really will be Monday!! re paying the bills, I think the deposit for £500k is imperative, so I am presuming so!! once the new owner has then completed final due dilligence which could take x days/months, I hope they leave themselves enough time to plan for new season, ie manager, players!!! Run the right way with the right personnel, we have a chance of a good showing next year!

[samoakley]

How can some people start chosing other clubs already i wont be finding another club till this club dies and im certain it wont happen and if it does like people say your go to a different ground might buy a shirt but the highs wont be high and lows wont be lows the passion wont be there.

 

Keep the faith guys if no one buys us monday then start to lose faith.

[pfc123]

You don't know what you're talking about Numbnuts. Any purchaser could buy the club with a state of the art stadium, which would cost about £40m to build now, for about £10m.

 

Investment a few more millions and be back in the Premiership in a few years.

 

Or buy PFC maybe, a club who can't sell out a cowshed of a ground, (why does the attendance figure always read the same yet some games you can see acres of empty seats?) with no chance or money to build anything better, and no chance of filling it even if you did, and dozens of ageing players on massive wages and long contracts. All for £40m ???

Clown.

 

I don't think you can ever talk about 'attendance figures' again after selling a paltry 1500 for the 'save the saints' game. Sorry, but that said it all about how many of you really, really care what happens to your club.

 

Also, you very rarely sold out 'the skip' with a capacity of what, 15k? So you were no better than us on that score when you had a similar fleapit of a ground.

 

As for 'dozens of aging players on massive wages and long contracts', 19 of them are out of contract in June, a lot will go and probably some of the England players will also go, but when they do, the debt will be significantly reduced to a more comfortable level.

 

We'll probably go back to a squad like you had in the Prem- one that bumps along in the bottom third year after year, but usually gets out of trouble at some point. We might well go down, but for the moment we're a Premiership team for at least another year and as such we're a far more attractive investment opportunity for someone wanting to get into the bright lights of the best league in the world.

 

Look, we're never going to agree on this- I just wonder how many of you would turn down the chance to swap places with us right now?

[Griffo]

Granted, St Mary's is a reasonably boring stadium, but we make a bloody good atmosphere in it. A lot more than the likes of Coventry, Leicester, Derby, Middlesborough in similar stadiums and at away games, the home supports of other teams doesn't seem to be as good as our home support either.

[Wade Garrett]

I don't think you can ever talk about 'attendance figures' again after selling a paltry 1500 for the 'save the saints' game. Sorry, but that said it all about how many of you really, really care what happens to your club.

 

Also, you very rarely sold out 'the skip' with a capacity of what, 15k? So you were no better than us on that score when you had a similar fleapit of a ground.

 

As for 'dozens of aging players on massive wages and long contracts', 19 of them are out of contract in June, a lot will go and probably some of the England players will also go, but when they do, the debt will be significantly reduced to a more comfortable level.

 

We'll probably go back to a squad like you had in the Prem- one that bumps along in the bottom third year after year, but usually gets out of trouble at some point. We might well go down, but for the moment we're a Premiership team for at least another year and as such we're a far more attractive investment opportunity for someone wanting to get into the bright lights of the best league in the world.

 

Look, we're never going to agree on this- I just wonder how many of you would turn down the chance to swap places with us right now?

 

You are going to lose most of your decent players next season. You will be left with a team struggling to stay up, a crap ground and dwindling support.

 

You are every investors wet dream.

[Matthew Le God]

I don't think you can ever talk about 'attendance figures' again after selling a paltry 1500 for the 'save the saints' game. Sorry, but that said it all about how many of you really, really care what happens to your club.

 

Also, you very rarely sold out 'the skip' with a capacity of what, 15k? So you were no better than us on that score when you had a similar fleapit of a ground.

 

As for 'dozens of aging players on massive wages and long contracts', 19 of them are out of contract in June, a lot will go and probably some of the England players will also go, but when they do, the debt will be significantly reduced to a more comfortable level.

 

We'll probably go back to a squad like you had in the Prem- one that bumps along in the bottom third year after year, but usually gets out of trouble at some point. We might well go down, but for the moment we're a Premiership team for at least another year and as such we're a far more attractive investment opportunity for someone wanting to get into the bright lights of the best league in the world.

 

Look, we're never going to agree on this- I just wonder how many of you would turn down the chance to swap places with us right now?

 

1) The Dell was sold out pretty much every game

 

2) The "Save our Saints Game" didn't sell because many are undr the impression that a buyer will soon be in place and so no need for the game. Any that want to donate will do anyway. Just because two people come up with an event to help something you support doesn't mean you have to attend it.

 

3) I wouldn't swap with you right now. We are at the bottom of a downward spiral and will be working our way up from next season onwards. Pompey are on their way down and yet to reach the bottom. Your debts will cripple you!

[teamsaint]

I don't think you can ever talk about 'attendance figures' again after selling a paltry 1500 for the 'save the saints' game. Sorry, but that said it all about how many of you really, really care what happens to your club.

 

Also, you very rarely sold out 'the skip' with a capacity of what, 15k? So you were no better than us on that score when you had a similar fleapit of a ground.

 

As for 'dozens of aging players on massive wages and long contracts', 19 of them are out of contract in June, a lot will go and probably some of the England players will also go, but when they do, the debt will be significantly reduced to a more comfortable level.

 

We'll probably go back to a squad like you had in the Prem- one that bumps along in the bottom third year after year, but usually gets out of trouble at some point. We might well go down, but for the moment we're a Premiership team for at least another year and as such we're a far more attractive investment opportunity for someone wanting to get into the bright lights of the best league in the world.

 

Look, we're never going to agree on this- I just wonder how many of you would turn down the chance to swap places with us right now?

 

you should try to get ALL your facts correct.We almost always sold out the all seated Dell in the PL.

 

as for the SOS game the sales showed that people didn't think it was going to work, or wasn't neceassary.(ightly or wrongly) The number who regularly turn out shows how many "really really care".I suggest to you that we all care just as much about our club as you do about yours, and everyone else does about theirs.And our attendance figures DO show that there are plenty of us.

 

And as for being an investment opporunity, lets just mention burnley, Stoke and Hull.

[fred kemp]

skates can always rely on their fantastic youth policy that's served 'em so well, the last player was darren anderton i think, where did he come from?

[lordswoodsaints]

SMS,like many others is 'off the peg',pretty standard,pretty boring and petty sterile,but most importantly pretty cheap.

Cutting edge and innovative costs money I'm afraid,something we have never had a lot of.

[Delmary]

1) The Dell was sold out pretty much every game

 

2) The "Save our Saints Game" didn't sell because many are undr the impression that a buyer will soon be in place and so no need for the game. Any that want to donate will do anyway. Just because two people come up with an event to help something you support doesn't mean you have to attend it.

 

3) I wouldn't swap with you right now. We are at the bottom of a downward spiral and will be working our way up from next season onwards. Pompey are on their way down and yet to reach the bottom. Your debts will cripple you!

 

The home section of the Dell always sold-out for league games and there was a big season ticket waiting list! Season tickets where like gold-dust. So'ton will always be a potentially bigger club than Portsmouth. Our city is much bigger, it's one of the fastest (3rd) growing places in the uk. Portsmouth is land-locked and has limited capacity to expand its supporter base.

Edited 17 May, 2009 by Delmary

[Isabel Healey]

It's not often you see Isabel spelt that way. It's usually Isobel I think.

 

But I'm sure the poster knows how to spell her own name.

 

Not in Portugal, Bridge----- Isabel !!

 

Very observant though !!

[Gingeletiss]

Not in Portugal, Bridge----- Isabel !!

 

Very observant though !!

 

Even in this country..............used to say of those so named...'Is a bell neccesary on a bike', no slight intended;)

[miserableoldgit]

Having been born and brought up in Southampton but having lived in London for most of my life I'm always struck when visiting Southampton for home games by the hideous architecture approved by the planners. SMS is better than the IKEA store (doesn't deserve capitals), which isn't saying much, and the steel structures on the roof are vaguely nautical in keeping with the stadium's location, but overall it's bland and identikit like so many modern buildings in the city. On the other hand, in recognition of the fact that the stadium debt is a millstone around the club's neck, I guess we should be pleased that construction costs were relatively low. Inside the stadium the view is excellent (I often recall that I never saw a corner at the Dell from one season to the next) and when all's said and done, it's the people that go to SMS that make it special.

Totally agree!

[miserableoldgit]

I don't think you can ever talk about 'attendance figures' again after selling a paltry 1500 for the 'save the saints' game. Sorry, but that said it all about how many of you really, really care what happens to your club.

 

Also, you very rarely sold out 'the skip' with a capacity of what, 15k? So you were no better than us on that score when you had a similar fleapit of a ground.

 

As for 'dozens of aging players on massive wages and long contracts', 19 of them are out of contract in June, a lot will go and probably some of the England players will also go, but when they do, the debt will be significantly reduced to a more comfortable level.

 

We'll probably go back to a squad like you had in the Prem- one that bumps along in the bottom third year after year, but usually gets out of trouble at some point. We might well go down, but for the moment we're a Premiership team for at least another year and as such we're a far more attractive investment opportunity for someone wanting to get into the bright lights of the best league in the world.

 

Look, we're never going to agree on this- I just wonder how many of you would turn down the chance to swap places with us right now?

In the short term? Maybe. You are still in the Prem (just) and we are in Division 3. In the long term? Never in a million years. You are heading for a big fall. Despite Storries protestations and claims that he is talking to two serious buyers and a deal being "imminent" you have massive debts and outgoings and are leaking (I can`t spell haemorrhaging!) money. Why does the gunrunner want rid of you? Does he not have the money required to keep you afloat. Wasn`t he your "Paul Allen" when he came in? Who is most attractive to any potential "long term" investor. You or us?

[Weston Saint]

Why are we arguing with a Pompey supporter about Pompey matters. This is a Saints forum. Take it to the Lounge....no wait the Muppet forum is better.

 

Back on track, I hope something is sorted on Monday. I do not know who is behind the Pinnacle interest but from a few who do they tell me it will be positive for Saints. Nothing wrong with the other bid on the table either.

 

Just wonder if something might come from the left field next week. However for the present the Pinnacle one seems to be in the driving seat but time is running out.

[OldNick]

Why are we arguing with a Pompey supporter about Pompey matters. This is a Saints forum. Take it to the Lounge....no wait the Muppet forum is better.

 

Back on track, I hope something is sorted on Monday. I do not know who is behind the Pinnacle interest but from a few who do they tell me it will be positive for Saints. Nothing wrong with the other bid on the table either.

 

Just wonder if something might come from the left field next week. However for the present the Pinnacle one seems to be in the driving seat but time is running out.

Time is the enemy, 1 last minute hitch and it is good night nurse.I just hope that the Leeds fans are not getting their revenge eh Ron?

[Weston Saint]

Time is the enemy, 1 last minute hitch and it is good night nurse.I just hope that the Leeds fans are not getting their revenge eh Ron?

lol

[Amesbury Saint]

Why are we arguing with a Pompey supporter about Pompey matters. This is a Saints forum. Take it to the Lounge....no wait the Muppet forum is better.

 

Back on track, I hope something is sorted on Monday. I do not know who is behind the Pinnacle interest but from a few who do they tell me it will be positive for Saints. Nothing wrong with the other bid on the table either.

 

Just wonder if something might come from the left field next week. However for the present the Pinnacle one seems to be in the driving seat but time is running out.

 

Agreed re first paragraph

 

Re second paragraph sounds like two good bids, and as you said it would be good if sorted out on Monday.

 

We really do need to get ownership sorted - preparations for next season off and on the pitch need to get going. For example the small matter of selling X thousand STs in a recession. I hope the new owners have soem great marketing and sales people.

[Toadhall Saint]

Agreed re first paragraph

 

Re second paragraph sounds like two good bids, and as you said it would be good if sorted out on Monday.

 

We really do need to get ownership sorted - preparations for next season off and on the pitch need to get going. For example the small matter of selling X thousand STs in a recession. I hope the new owners have soem great marketing and sales people.

 

As soon as I know when (and if) I'll be buying mine. I'm more concerned about getting a team together with the hearts and minds to take up the battle in L1.

[up and away]

I've waited long enough for saints and Fry to sort themselves out; just heard today that I have qualified for a ST at Emirates so got to decide whether to send off my cheque over weekend. At least it's Premiership football and at least they've got Walcott and at least they play in red & white. Can't be in two places at once 'though so looks like Saints and me are all washed up. All those years down the drain and for what? It's their own fault, too many false dawns and broken promises.

 

I would not have a problem with this position, if you had done everything possible in the small way a supporter does to avoid this happening. You decided not to support the club whilst Lowe was there and are now unhappy with what remains.

 

You and others decided this was the best action, but have suddenly realised the results of your actions and don't like it. Well wise up and grow a pair.

[tttdcs]

Even in this country..............used to say of those so named...'Is a bell neccesary on a bike', no slight intended;)

 

Not in Portugal, Bridge----- Isabel !!

 

Very observant though !!

 

or even Ysobel ........... and my daughter still asks why her name is on a brick at SMS :-)

[hypochondriac]

I would not have a problem with this position, if you had done everything possible in the small way a supporter does to avoid this happening. You decided not to support the club whilst Lowe was there and are now unhappy with what remains.

 

You and others decided this was the best action, but have suddenly realised the results of your actions and don't like it. Well wise up and grow a pair.

 

It's a little premature to go spouting off with the "I told you so's." Supposing we get a new owner next week and MLT installed in some capacity. I would see that as quite a significant improvement. I would even prefer that and the -10 to another season of Lowe. We shall see...

[ART]

Just what have things come to? No a single mention about the club or the takeover in any of the Sundays or even online. Just shows that the Echo relies on the false rumours posted on here for a story.

 

Once thing I think that might be holding up things is the fact that SFC must be shown to be a separate entity from the holding company. In drawing up all the contracts, sell off, it must clearly be shown in order to make a successful appeal against the 10 point deduction. Maybe this is the reason for the 500,000 up front to ensure the club is solvent before any sale or takeover.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I don't think you can ever talk about 'attendance figures' again after selling a paltry 1500 for the 'save the saints' game. Sorry, but that said it all about how many of you really, really care what happens to your club.

 

Also, you very rarely sold out 'the skip' with a capacity of what, 15k? So you were no better than us on that score when you had a similar fleapit of a ground.

 

As for 'dozens of aging players on massive wages and long contracts', 19 of them are out of contract in June, a lot will go and probably some of the England players will also go, but when they do, the debt will be significantly reduced to a more comfortable level.

 

We'll probably go back to a squad like you had in the Prem- one that bumps along in the bottom third year after year, but usually gets out of trouble at some point. We might well go down, but for the moment we're a Premiership team for at least another year and as such we're a far more attractive investment opportunity for someone wanting to get into the bright lights of the best league in the world.

 

Look, we're never going to agree on this- I just wonder how many of you would turn down the chance to swap places with us right now?

 

*EDIT. Oooops! got the wrong end of the stick!

[Toadhall Saint]

Just what have things come to? No a single mention about the club or the takeover in any of the Sundays or even online. Just shows that the Echo relies on the false rumours posted on here for a story.

 

Once thing I think that might be holding up things is the fact that SFC must be shown to be a separate entity from the holding company. In drawing up all the contracts, sell off, it must clearly be shown in order to make a successful appeal against the 10 point deduction. Maybe this is the reason for the 500,000 up front to ensure the club is solvent before any sale or takeover.

 

Re your first para - very strange indeed, I mean I know were not Prem anymore but, no news not even an unsubstantiated rumor?!

[trousers]

Ok, so that's the weekend nearly done and dusted then. What time should we start F5-ing in the morning?

[Delmary]

Ok, so that's the weekend nearly done and dusted then. What time should we start F5-ing in the morning?

Another productive day at work. Not!

[SFC Forever]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman

I've waited long enough for saints and Fry to sort themselves out; just heard today that I have qualified for a ST at Emirates so got to decide whether to send off my cheque over weekend. At least it's Premiership football and at least they've got Walcott and at least they play in red & white. Can't be in two places at once 'though so looks like Saints and me are all washed up. All those years down the drain and for what? It's their own fault, too many false dawns and broken promises.

 

 

Quote by Up Up and Away

I would not have a problem with this position, if you had done everything possible in the small way a supporter does to avoid this happening. You decided not to support the club whilst Lowe was there and are now unhappy with what remains.

 

You and others decided this was the best action, but have suddenly realised the results of your actions and don't like it. Well wise up and grow a pair.

 

 

 

 

I hope when you become a gooner you leave our legend's name behind

[maxi_sopez]

Its monday babby!

[dubai_phil]

Has it happened yet?

[Master Bates]

Sunday, Monday, Happy Days.

Tuesday, Wednesday, Happy Days.

Thursday, Friday, Happy Days.

The weekend comes,

My cycle hums,

Ready to race to you.

[thorpie the sinner]

they are all having a full English as we speak!!!

[Frank's cousin]

Say with annoyingly patronizing Geordie accent...

 

 

Its 7.55 am and all is still quiet in the SMS household. Fry is slowly munching on a piece of Lowe's stale cucumber sandwich that he found abandoned in the Boardroom fridge.

 

He can hear the vacuuming going on and he sighs... Leon is in the corridor in his pinny, pulling the 'Henry' this way and that to remove teh stubborn pieces of fluff from the carpet as he inches close to the door to try and listen in on what Fry is up to.

 

Lawrie is in one of the executive boxes having a manicure. sharpening his nails ready for his next Echo piece but its pretty quiet in the rest of the house.

 

 

8.05 am - Fry is agitated, hes been hoping for that call all weekend that will mean he can finally afford to hang up on Whacko Jacko - who has been lingering like a bad smell.

 

8.10 am Leon finishes the hoovering