John B Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 (edited) With all due respect mate, I knew we were going to end up here when Lowe came back. Him returning was like puring petrol on the financial flames.. No you are wrong you thought that we would go into Administration not that you knew I would have thought I thought after Xmas we would probably go into Administration but I did not know That is the point the poster was probably trying to make Edited 13 May, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 How do you know we did not know we were going into Administration? tee hee, well of course those under 250 posts are never given that golden key which will put them onto the club's secret intranet, they don't get to use all those web cams and hidden mikes that the shareholders put in during their battle with the execs:p Now if only we knew the password, apparently worldclasscatering is too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Completely agree here they should be buying the lot or nothing. The stadium is SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 No you are wrong you thought that we would go into Administration not that you knew I would have thought Yep, that's all you've got left, isnt it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Im not personally in the know but a member of my family spoke to MLT today and he confirmed his group are the preferred bid and hope it will be done by Friday. He gave the impression he would be a figurehead chairman. The group he is involved with was meeting with Fry all day today. MLT said we will have a team to watch next season, dont worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 God I hope youre right Wild-Saints - cheers for the info. Im greateful for all positive news there is about this bloody mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Completely agree here they should be buying the lot or nothing. The stadium is SFC. I don't mind them not buying the stadium tbh, just aslong as someone like the council buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I can no longer be arsed to read the bull**** speculation. Wake me up when something happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I can no longer be arsed to read the bull**** speculation. Wake me up when something happens. The club has just been liquidated and an R Lowe has jumped into Cheddar Gorge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 With all due respect mate, I knew we were going to end up here when Lowe came back. Him returning was like puring petrol on the financial flames.. "Puring" (?) petrol? Surley that was Wilde? Lowe is hardly a spendthrift is he? Isn't that what people have complained about for years? That he doesn't like to spend money? Isn't that what we needed since the parachute payment went? Someone keeping a tight rein on the purse strings. Of course you knew this would happen Alpine, because you always expect the worst. You are like a roulette player who always plays "black". Sh*t happens. And guess what, you heard it hear first but we are all going to die. See, not so hard to be right about sh*t is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 "Puring" (?) petrol? Surley that was Wilde? Lowe is hardly a spendthrift is he? Isn't that what people have complained about for years? That he doesn't like to spend money? Isn't that what we needed since the parachute payment went? Someone keeping a tight rein on the purse strings. Of course you knew this would happen Alpine, because you always expect the worst. You are like a roulette player who always plays "black". Sh*t happens. And guess what, you heard it hear first but we are all going to die. See, not so hard to be right about sh*t is it? Unfortunately i agree with this assessment, as much as i blame Lowe (mostly) for our downfall, he was never one to overspend and was always far too cautious with his money. He did however ensure with his crazy managerial appointments and continually revolving door (like football's equivalent of the apprentice) have pushed us further and further down the league. Would we still have been in administration if Lowe never left ? Maybe ? He would not have overspent like the other people messiah (crouch, who i believe has his parts of blame) however we would never have survived last season if he had been there. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Unfortunately i agree with this assessment, as much as i blame Lowe (mostly) for our downfall, he was never one to overspend and was always far too cautious with his money. He did however ensure with his crazy managerial appointments and continually revolving door (like football's equivalent of the apprentice) have pushed us further and further down the league. Would we still have been in administration if Lowe never left ? Maybe ? He would not have overspent like the other people messiah (crouch, who i believe has his parts of blame) however we would never have survived last season if he had been there. IMO Delgado and Woodward :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 who ever heard of a quinton in football or a Rupert, or a Sir Clive...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Im not personally in the know but a member of my family spoke to MLT today and he confirmed his group are the preferred bid and hope it will be done by Friday. He gave the impression he would be a figurehead chairman. The group he is involved with was meeting with Fry all day today. MLT said we will have a team to watch next season, dont worry. Cheers for the info WS. I'm sure, short of a mega billionaire with a fixation on buying world class players taking us over, this will be for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Cheers for the info WS. I'm sure' date=' short of a mega billionaire with a fixation on buying world class players taking us over, this will be for the best.[/quote'] + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Sounds positive WS, but then it has done before! Hoping that you mean this Friday (15th May 2009), and that you are right. If true, presumably there are managerial short-lists already being worked on, a quick managerial appointment is a must, 'football people' must be involved rather than yes men and people who understand the requirements of the division (sounds obvious but not going by the last few years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 So is the offer true then or not or is it wait 24 - 48 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 So is the offer true then or not or is it wait 24 - 48 hours Yes. All of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Im not personally in the know but a member of my family spoke to MLT today and he confirmed his group are the preferred bid and hope it will be done by FRIDAY. He gave the impression he would be a figurehead chairman. The group he is involved with was meeting with Fry all day today. MLT said we will have a team to watch next season, dont worry. please not ANOTHER FRIDAY ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Quote: Originally Posted by SaintRichmond OK, but when he left Pompey, they were still in the Prem, and still are ....... ... He did provide MONEY for QUALITY players to keep them there ....... Saints have NEVER had anyone remotely interested in Football leading us Yes I totally agree Me too. Unusually in total agreement with John B. The Skates success could so easily have been us if we had some f*cker actually with ambition and hunger for sporting success, rather than personal nest feathering t*sser! Too many have used our club as a business playground. We had ample opportunity, much longer than the Skates. Instead, we just chose to 'survive'. WOOOOO!!!! Inspirational. This is why we need new owners who are FOOTBALL FANS. It's soooo long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I am beginning to get very disillusioned by all this. I am getting whispers from several places tonight and it is not all good. However it is still subject to verification. We have a bid on the table with proven funds which does not appear to meet with the Administrators approval or at least he is not talking or making a decision. We have another group who have been in talks (allegedly today) but as no announcement I assume they have yet to put in a written bid...perhaps tomorrow. The only chink of light is Wild-Saints post following a reported chat by a family member with LeTissier, but why no announcement if it is correct. Time is running out. I hope Mr Fry does not mess this all up. I hope the other interested party does not mess this all up by not putting in an indicative bid. I hope the present bidder does not mess this all up by withdrawing the tabled indicative bid because of delays and lack of communication. The fat lady is not yet singing but the death knell is preparing to sound. Mostly (with few confirmed facts) in my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I am beginning to get very disillusioned by all this. I am getting whispers from several places tonight and it is not all good. However it is still subject to verification. We have a bid on the table with proven funds which does not appear to meet with the Administrators approval or at least he is not talking or making a decision. We have another group who have been in talks (allegedly today) but as no announcement I assume they have yet to put in a written bid...perhaps tomorrow. The only chink of light is Wild-Saints post following a reported chat by a family member with LeTissier, but why no announcement if it is correct. Time is running out. I hope Mr Fry does not mess this all up. I hope the other interested party does not mess this all up by not putting in an indicative bid. I hope the present bidder does not mess this all up by withdrawing the tabled indicative bid because of delays and lack of communication. The fat lady is not yet singing but the death knell is preparing to sound. Mostly (with few confirmed facts) in my opinion of course. WS , are you aware of 1 one the bids not being involved with owning the ground , but renting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Delgado and Woodward :grin: Ok, there were times.... and they failed miserably. As i said before, do not take the above post as if i support Lowe.... christ i do not, just don't think ANY of the others have been any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I am beginning to get very disillusioned by all this. I am getting whispers from several places tonight and it is not all good. However it is still subject to verification. We have a bid on the table with proven funds which does not appear to meet with the Administrators approval or at least he is not talking or making a decision. We have another group who have been in talks (allegedly today) but as no announcement I assume they have yet to put in a written bid...perhaps tomorrow. The only chink of light is Wild-Saints post following a reported chat by a family member with LeTissier, but why no announcement if it is correct. Time is running out. I hope Mr Fry does not mess this all up. I hope the other interested party does not mess this all up by not putting in an indicative bid. I hope the present bidder does not mess this all up by withdrawing the tabled indicative bid because of delays and lack of communication. The fat lady is not yet singing but the death knell is preparing to sound. Mostly (with few confirmed facts) in my opinion of course. I said that and was laughed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 To me, the key to all this is the "Character" of the Person(s) who take us over If he/they are "Football " men, then, long term, Saints fortunes will slowly approve If it is not Football men, then sadly, Football itself will take second place at best .......like it has done for the last 12 or so years We NEED a Mandaric or Madjeski .... people who put FOOTBALL First To believe that people get control of football clubs because they are "football men" is a bit short sighted. The two you mentioned are first and foremost businessmen. That you consider them to be real "football men" just shows they are very good at running their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I don't really think it's about Mr Fry or bidders "messing up", it's about whether there is a deal that's acceptable to the creditors or not. Sadly, it's only Southampton FC / SLH that has messed up over recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I am beginning to get very disillusioned by all this. I am getting whispers from several places tonight and it is not all good. However it is still subject to verification. We have a bid on the table with proven funds which does not appear to meet with the Administrators approval or at least he is not talking or making a decision. We have another group who have been in talks (allegedly today) but as no announcement I assume they have yet to put in a written bid...perhaps tomorrow. The only chink of light is Wild-Saints post following a reported chat by a family member with LeTissier, but why no announcement if it is correct. Time is running out. I hope Mr Fry does not mess this all up. I hope the other interested party does not mess this all up by not putting in an indicative bid. I hope the present bidder does not mess this all up by withdrawing the tabled indicative bid because of delays and lack of communication. The fat lady is not yet singing but the death knell is preparing to sound. Mostly (with few confirmed facts) in my opinion of course. I respect your updates, but what are we supposed to make of this latest post? Is this your opinion or based on what? It just worries me and I don't know why, I have no idea who you are or why I should take any notice of you - after all this is supposed to be a fans forum.......not the Financial Times.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Delgado and Woodward :grin: Thats not even relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I don't really think it's about Mr Fry or bidders "messing up", it's about whether there is a deal that's acceptable to the creditors or not. Sadly, it's only Southampton FC / SLH that has messed up over recent years. Which is where the stumbling block is , I'm sure one of them is that the stadium is a seperate offer and the football club is another ....and all parties cannot agree on the details or meet the requirements of the creditors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Yes but Mr Fry must realise that people who have put a bid on the table days ago will not wait for too long before they say "stuff it" then and walk away. Mr Fry should of all people realise what a perilous state the worlds economy is in and that it most certainly is a buyers market, if he pushes too much he cannot be surprised if it falls through. All IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 This is unbearble, something's obviously gone all ****ed up. My gut feeling is that a combination of the recession and the way SLH is structured means were ****ged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 if say the break up value of the club is £5m, they the creditors will accept anything above £5m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 WS , are you aware of 1 one the bids not being involved with owning the ground , but renting itNo I do not, is the simple answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I respect your updates, but what are we supposed to make of this latest post? Is this your opinion or based on what? It just worries me and I don't know why, I have no idea who you are or why I should take any notice of you - after all this is supposed to be a fans forum.......not the Financial Times.....!I have no agenda MM but can understand your suspicion. I am a supporter who just has a few contacts, friends and enough experience to form a reasoned and balanced opinion. You are right, it is a fans forum. My posting history is available to you. It is up to every poster as to what they make of it. I do not hold myself up as anything more than the average fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 This just feels like we are going to just fizzle out into obscurity in the same half ar$ed ****eyed way this club has been run with just a couple of shining moments St Mary's and the Strachan time................. Ah well C'est la vie: there's always Glossop North End who I was supporting in the F A Vase on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 No I do not, is the simple answer Hi Ron - I share your gloomy outlook unfortunately. I find it hard to believe any serious party would leave it this late in the day to make a move. When it goes this late in my experience its pretty much game over barring a miracle. I wonder whether there is enough time left to seriously expect Fry to tie up a deal before there's no cash-flow whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Yes but Mr Fry must realise that people who have put a bid on the table days ago will not wait for too long before they say "stuff it" then and walk away. Mr Fry should of all people realise what a perilous state the worlds economy is in and that it most certainly is a buyers market, if he pushes too much he cannot be surprised if it falls through. All IMHO of course.True, that is my worry but never under estimate Mr Fry and his office. He is an experienced man used to just this situation. He would not be in that position if he was anything other than successful. Let's hope he can get a positive outcome to the creditors and supporters satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Hi Ron - I share your gloomy outlook unfortunately. I find it hard to believe any serious party would leave it this late in the day to make a move. When it goes this late in my experience its pretty much game over barring a miracle. I wonder whether there is enough time left to seriously expect Fry to tie up a deal before there's no cash-flow whatsoever. I have had a contact from someone since I posted earlier this evening who has not told me anything but seemed a little more upbeat than my post. Let's see what tomorrow brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I wasn't going to post this as there is enough gloom and despondency on here at the moment but ....... I know of someone who was involved with the administration of Gretna FC up here in Scotland and he told me a few days ago that he see's a lot of similarities between Saints Administration and Gretna's in as much as Gretna went on for a good few weeks with promises and false hopes of investment and in the end nothing happened in time and now Gretna are no more. He said in his opinion there is always a limited Time window and he thought we must be getting pretty close to the plug being pulled. Sorry for being so negative but it is becomeing very worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Like most of you I have found this whole takeover business horrendous, and I just want it sorted. I only hope that is being played out is a game of brinkmanship, and Mr Fry is waiting until the last possible moment for an improved bid, before he accepts what’s on the table (I can't blame him for that, its his job). I do however hope (and somewhat naively believe) that we will find new owners, who even if they can't afford to pump large sums into the club, can create some stability to our club. I hope the fact that Mr Fry has not come out in the press and stated that talks have broken down irretrievably, means that both sides are still willing to negotiate. If the difference between offer and asking price is 1m, I am sure both parties can come to some agreement and split the difference somewhere in-between. I cannot see Mr Fry going back to the major creditors with no deal, and then spending a small fortune in splitting a club up and having a huge fire sale, for the sake of 1m. If the club goes under, players can leave under freedom of contract (no revenue to creditors). The ground, staplewood, and Jacksons Farm may all have limited development value, but only to be land banked for future use. I suspect we will be all right, I just think it will go down to the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I can see alot of panic on the forum which I understand, I was feeling the same. However tonight I have spoken to a couple of people which give me great hope. I know we have heard it all before but I am excited by news tonight. Pinnacle fronted bid should be announced as prefered bidders tomorrow afternoon. Will supply initial funds to keep club afloat until next stage dd is completed. Deal to be completed in due course. After all we have been through it is easy to be sceptical of any bids, remember pinnacle is only the vehicle. I'm sure that if this deal is completed we will at last have what we have lacked for over 10 years & dream of- a united club & real hope for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Oh & source "a" or whatever you want to call it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 I can see alot of panic on the forum which I understand, I was feeling the same. However tonight I have spoken to a couple of people which give me great hope. I know we have heard it all before but I am excited by news tonight. Pinnacle fronted bid should be announced as prefered bidders tomorrow afternoon. Will supply initial funds to keep club afloat until next stage dd is completed. Deal to be completed in due course. After all we have been through it is easy to be sceptical of any bids, remember pinnacle is only the vehicle. I'm sure that if this deal is completed we will at last have what we have lacked for over 10 years & dream of- a united club & real hope for the future. If that is true, I can go to bed with a smile on my face (usually takes something a bit different!). I need to be able to be productive at work again, I haven't been able to stop looking at this stupid forum for the past month. My boss asked me yesterday if everything was ok at home! I can hardly say may biggest worldy concern at the moment is the tate of my beloved football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 If that is true, I can go to bed with a smile on my face (usually takes something a bit different!). I need to be able to be productive at work again, I haven't been able to stop looking at this stupid forum for the past month. My boss asked me yesterday if everything was ok at home! I can hardly say may biggest worldy concern at the moment is the tate of my beloved football club. Sounds familiar just don't tell the boss! I sit somewhere between sad & passionate I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Sounds familiar just don't tell the boss! I sit somewhere between sad & passionate I think! Are those 2 new birds who started since I left? Do I guess your source to be your "new best friend." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Presumably either the council (good, but I'd be surprised they could to be so definite without more public political discussion) or a property chancer (bad) offering to buy stadium and lease to club if any consortium wants to play things that way ...presumably because they are struggling to afford the whole thing. K. Hmm - if the latter, what's to stop them knocking down the stadium if they feel like building trendy waterfront (well almost, you could see it if the sand works weren't there) flats come the next inevitable property speculation boom in 5-10 years time. Or at least, raising the Ground rent (accidental pun) whenever they felt like it. Sounds a bit like what happened at Chester City (?) not so long ago. You'd want a cast-iron, unbreakable to the sacrifice of the landlord's gonads type contract on the rent, or they end up with some kind of flat rate plus a percentage of the gate each game. Actually this is what Stockport County currently have - Sale Sharks (Sale is about 10 miles away down the M60) own Edgeley Park, which County lease back for a fixed fee plus a percentage of the gate. It's not done County much good by the look of it, as they're really struggling to move, sounds possibly as grim as us. Sacked the manager Jim Gannon (who took them up through the playoffs last season, and achieved mid-table respectability (barring the 10 points lost through Admin) - in fact they only slipped back from playoff contention in the last month or two as things got financially grim and they had to release loaned players back to their home clubs. Alongside my current fairly serious worry that Saints may go totally bust, is a much lesser but still very personal worry that Saints will survive, but Stockport don't, and I lose my first chance of a "home" game I could realistically walk to (about 25 minutes without rushing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 The offer of 8M was originally 12M if we stayed up. Hopefully 1M will go toward an appeal to get rid of the -10 points. £1m for a sh1t-hot bunch of lawyers/PR to mount a campaign all the way up to the European court of Sport Arbitration (or whatever it's called). Teaching a course this week with a Rotherham fan who thought we've been disgracefully treated, and there was I thinking all the other penalised clubs (Luton, AFCB, et al) thought we were taking the **** with our loophole attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 True, that is my worry but never under estimate Mr Fry and his office. He is an experienced man used to just this situation. He would not be in that position if he was anything other than successful. Let's hope he can get a positive outcome to the creditors and supporters satisfaction. WS - I think the key is not to underestimate Mr Fry. He is experienced in this and, as someone else mentioned, it is a game of brinksmanship in which he will be well versed. He will know how to get the best deal for the creditors and that will involve squeezing a bidder as far as he can but not so far as to make them walk away. I think it was always going to be like this from the moment he walked in the door. We all hoped for a speedy resolution but that was never going to happen. I will really worry when Fry starts threatening, publicly, to shut it all down in the next 24 hours if a deal isn't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 I can see alot of panic on the forum which I understand, I was feeling the same. However tonight I have spoken to a couple of people which give me great hope. I know we have heard it all before but I am excited by news tonight. Pinnacle fronted bid should be announced as prefered bidders tomorrow afternoon. Will supply initial funds to keep club afloat until next stage dd is completed. Deal to be completed in due course. After all we have been through it is easy to be sceptical of any bids, remember pinnacle is only the vehicle. I'm sure that if this deal is completed we will at last have what we have lacked for over 10 years & dream of- a united club & real hope for the future. given the timing of your post, has tomorrow afternoon past or Friday pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 May, 2009 Share Posted 14 May, 2009 Could be interesting day tomorrow, at least we can listen to test Match Special on line while waiting by the PC for something to happen Good night all, sleep well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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