Roger Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 (edited) Domain name: pinnacleassetmanagement.co.uk Registrant: Spencer Farmer Registrant type: UK Individual Registrant's address: ***************** Registrar: Fasthosts Internet Ltd [Tag = FASTHOSTS] URL: http://www.fasthosts.co.uk Relevant dates: Registered on: 09-Jan-2004 Renewal date: 09-Jan-2010 Last updated: 11-Dec-2007 Registration status: Registered until renewal date. Name servers: ns1.livedns.co.uk ns2.livedns.co.uk What the hell do you think your doing putiing someone's private details on here? The guy has done nothing but tell the truth and you are doing that. I suggest you remove it now. Completely out of order. Edited 10 May, 2009 by exit2 Address removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 What the hell do you think your doing putiing someone's private details on here? The guy has done nothing but tell the truth and you are doing that. I suggest you remove it now. Completely out of order. The information is freely available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 What the hell do you think your doing putiing someone's private details on here? The guy has done nothing but tell the truth and you are doing that. I suggest you remove it now. Completely out of order. Absolutely bang out of order, regardless of the fact that i know the Farmer. I would think you were an absolute **** posting personal info for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 (edited) The information is freely available. Yeah, all come round, I'm in tonight and I have a large bottle of cherry fanta, some wagon wheels and watching Dynasty re-runs. Edited 9 May, 2009 by The Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 What the hell do you think your doing putiing someone's private details on here? The guy has done nothing but tell the truth and you are doing that. I suggest you remove it now. Completely out of order. I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure GM wouldn't like it if someone put up a link to the Bursledon Parish Council website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Yeah, all come round, I'm in tonight and I have a large bottle of cherry fanta, some wagon wheels and watching Dynasty re-runs. Joan Collins !!!!! Im there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 True, but because of Ince's reputation it would not take as much success for him to be chased by a bigger club than it would for less of a 'big name' manager. Again a fair point. So what do we do though? We can pluck Nicky Nobody from the Eastleigh Minor league because nobody will poach him unless he proves good and then a bigger team than us (and there's loads at the moment) steps in. BUT us fans, on the initial appointment go into meltdown on here 'Where's our ambition?' Or we can recognise that we need to show some ambition, bite the bullet and get someone like Ince. Maybe he'll do well, in doing so we'll get promoted but he'll move on. But then we'll be in a better position to get someone maybe a little better than Ince? Frankly, the choice is no choice? Rock and hard place already found for our prospective owners I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 What the hell do you think your doing putiing someone's private details on here? The guy has done nothing but tell the truth and you are doing that. I suggest you remove it now. Completely out of order. While I agree with what you're saying, anybody who registers a website has the chance to hide their details and if you don't they are free to the world very, very easily. Do a WHOIS search for Saintsweb.co.uk and you'll see what I mean, no details are displayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 While I agree with what you're saying, anybody who registers a website has the chance to hide their details and if you don't they are free to the world very, very easily. Do a WHOIS search for Saintsweb.co.uk and you'll see what I mean, no details are displayed. I cant imagine people would think that some knob on a football forum would go giving away personal details of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 While I agree with what you're saying, anybody who registers a website has the chance to hide their details and if you don't they are free to the world very, very easily. Do a WHOIS search for Saintsweb.co.uk and you'll see what I mean, no details are displayed. Not true of pinnacleproperty.net afaik. while .uk domain names allow an opt out policy on displaying your details, .com, .net, and .org do not. you'd have to pay a third party to supply details on your behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Not true of pinnacleproperty.net afaik. while .uk domain names allow an opt out policy on displaying your details, .com, .net, and .org do not. you'd have to pay a third party to supply details on your behalf. Indeed, but the above domain is co.uk so the option is there to be used. As said, please don't think I'm defending the action but it is up to the person registering the domain to decide if they want their personal details hidden. I would advise a Mod removes the info and the person in question hides their details from the domain registration though, given the 'sensitive' nature of what's being discussed and the emotions involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Its Saturday night, I'm slightly drunk. BUT If you want to get involved in anything like a football club then you would need to have a pretty thick skin. Most fans we want some stability, a half decent manager, and a team we can get behind. of course we'll moan and groan. BUT be true to most of us and we'll mostly be true to you. (Rupert F**k of to WH Ireland and never come back ok!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 My beer fuddled brain can only fathom out that were are being bought by a mock georgian farmer from Woolston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 where are these links to Ince coming from!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I don't want someone from Woolston buying us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 where are these links to Ince coming from!? *************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 ******************************* So Pinnacle have said there clients will approach Ince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I don't want someone from Woolston buying us out. Is this a cryptic clue ? Bryan or Otis Ferry perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure GM wouldn't like it if someone put up a link to the Bursledon Parish Council website. http://www.bursledon.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC1906 Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Yeah, all come round, I'm in tonight and I have a large bottle of cherry fanta, some wagon wheels and watching Dynasty re-runs. Good job you don't live there anymore mate or some of the more 'obsessed' folk on here would probably take you up on your offer!! In fact I wouldn't be surprised if some hadn't already been round to have a look!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaintyDave Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Guided Missile's place looks a lot nicer. Posh one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I don't want someone from Woolston buying us out. Don't fear, its a smoke screen, the consortium are really from International Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Si Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Will someone EVER just buy our club to be ****ed?!! I am sick to death of reading mickey mouse threads about potential buyers. I just want to know I have a club to support next year, with a half decent manager at the helm. All this bull**** seems to be just dragging on and on and on.... JESUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Will someone EVER just buy our club to be ****ed?!! I am sick to death of reading mickey mouse threads about potential buyers. I just want to know I have a club to support next year, with a half decent manager at the helm. All this bull**** seems to be just dragging on and on and on.... JESUS! You do remember that we support Southampton right? Nothing is ever simple nor quick. We will go through at least two more weeks of this imo. It seriously better be worth it. But just incase, can't we arrange to go down St Marys and gather a massive group outside to show our passion and love for the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 What the hell do you think your doing putiing someone's private details on here? The guy has done nothing but tell the truth and you are doing that. I suggest you remove it now. Completely out of order. I've removed it. Pity you quoted it, you muppet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Good job you don't live there anymore mate or some of the more 'obsessed' folk on here would probably take you up on your offer!! In fact I wouldn't be surprised if some hadn't already been round to have a look!! I got there at 1:30am, no one answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancelot link Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 You're not going to like this guys but who the hell thinks its appropriate to start splashing personal details of people over this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself. Whilst forums are a great medium for debate, the reality should be left to those who know what is ACTUALLY happening - information that we will all find out after the event. I'm regretting even signing up for this after reading the last few threads. Unbelievably childish. Back to football, Ince will not be the manager. Nor will MLT - but he will the one deciding IMHO in some director of football type role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 I've removed it. Pity you quoted it, you muppet... Why did you put in your edit of the post that you thought it was Pinnacle's registered address? You are clearly not a stupid man, so why do you think we all are? Don't try to excuse yourself with a lie. It makes it worse. I often disagree with a ot of the more millitant posters on here, but they have never sunk that low - and I doubt they would. Insults are often dealt with by an infraction. I think this deserves a permanent ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 You're not going to like this guys but who the hell thinks its appropriate to start splashing personal details of people over this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself. Whilst forums are a great medium for debate, the reality should be left to those who know what is ACTUALLY happening - information that we will all find out after the event. I'm regretting even signing up for this after reading the last few threads. Unbelievably childish. Back to football, Ince will not be the manager. Nor will MLT - but he will the one deciding IMHO in some director of football type roleIt's wrong and the mods should delete such info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 (edited) Guided Missile's place looks a lot nicer. Posh one delete. Edited 10 May, 2009 by Mole It'd make me as bad as GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Guys, whois information is public domain. It can be easily looked up by any one of us, at no cost, in about five seconds. Reproducing that is not "private" information - it is public information that an owner of a website has provided about himself or herself. All this moral outrage is probably well intentioned but it isn't really justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Ignoring all the invective on the threads, I am getting concerned that the posters on here are easily uncovering that the people behind the two alleged bids appear to be of no financial substance. I hope that the bidders for the club do not consider they will be able to achieve the purchase and move the club on afterwards on the basis of an all debt deal and using the future net cash flows generated by the club - because we have just got rid of one idiot who thought he could do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Ignoring all the invective on the threads, I am getting concerned that the posters on here are easily uncovering that the people behind the two alleged bids appear to be of no financial substance. I hope that the bidders for the club do not consider they will be able to achieve the purchase and move the club on afterwards on the basis of an all debt deal and using the future net cash flows generated by the club - because we have just got rid of one idiot who thought he could do that. We have no idea who is behind the Pinnacle bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 ********************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Guys, whois information is public domain. It can be easily looked up by any one of us, at no cost, in about five seconds. Reproducing that is not "private" information - it is public information that an owner of a website has provided about himself or herself. All this moral outrage is probably well intentioned but it isn't really justified. I actually posted the whois link way back. Whilst I think posting the info from that link is a bit discourteous, is all the fuss because he is a member here, I am sure there would not be such an outcry of it was the private address of a rumoured buyer etc. As an infraction it’s probably more that he cut and pasted from another web site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 ******************************* Why have you posted that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 I think its clear, there is a definate takeover in the offing. Its easy to pour scorn on whoever is currently being suggested, pinnacle, fulthorpe, the jersey trio, marc jackson etc etc None of these names meet the criteria of a board of scrutineers Im so happy alpine and Mr sanctimonious (Stanley) so they will not happen. But lets be realistic. Those seriously involved will not be using the media let alone this forum to gauge fans opinions etc or try to influence one bid over another. I am certain the main players are doing the takeover in a very professional manner and do not need to enlist the likes of this forum or the echo to promote their intentions unlike some of the charlatans trying to stake a claim thru the echo or this forum I have and never will trust the echo again in reporting all matters saints. It just shows how desparate they are for saints news. How unprofessional of them to print wildes, crouch mcmenemys fes on what happened at the club. Instead of focussing on the negative they should be promoting a positive picture of Southampton football club. Also one other thing that keeps me optomistic is the fact that the FL are not calling for the club to go to the wall inorder that they can advise other teams who may be taking our place in the leagues next season I agree with this,to use this forum or the echo could be a dangerous thing. I have a contact at the echo and frankly they havnt got a clue what is going on which to me is a good thing,the potential owners are doing a good job keeping it all hush hush. One other thing,if you wanted to get the council on your side who do you get to back your bid......the man who has the freedom of the city,the man who could virtually get away with murder in Southampton,the man who is a god to every saints fan.....letiss. It makes perfect sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 The problem is again at the moment the help needed for SFC is all one way. We are again asked to dig deep and buy tickets by LM for the “All Star Match” and I would expect there to be buckets at the game saying “Give To Keep The Club Afloat” but we get nothing back. For example they haven’t told us how long we will need to keep giving for or who are the people behind the bids that we have received. It has been said on here the new owners will offer a more open policy to fans about the club, so why not start now and announce who you are. The main reason people are getting upset (imo) is because of the not knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 I've removed it. Pity you quoted it, you muppet... how is he the muppet??? you posted it for him to quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 I dont think the fans have a connection with the players/club at present.I also believe their is a lot of complacency as a poster has posted earlier.We have heard it all before with clubs just about to go extinct ans osmebody takes over last minute..ie Coventry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Anyone heard anything regarding when this will all finally be tied up and we can start pre season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 Guys, whois information is public domain. It can be easily looked up by any one of us, at no cost, in about five seconds. Reproducing that is not "private" information - it is public information that an owner of a website has provided about himself or herself. All this moral outrage is probably well intentioned but it isn't really justified. I agree, and in fact phone numbers (presumably business related) are available via WHOIS too. It's a risk you take when registering a domain without contracting a third party to obfuscate your contacts details. That said, I decided not to copy the contact details from pinnacleproperty.net domain entry when I replied to GM's post. I thought about it but I didn't feel comfortable doing it solely because it appears that like many small businesses, The Farmer's business adddress appears to be the same as his home address. Either way my assumption is that The Farmer's web business registered the domain for his client Pinnacle but that he holds no other involvement in the company other than to presumably maintain their web presence for them. The Farmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 With respect to all. Maybe we should all calm down a little? I truly believe that,despite his recent bluster about it, GM made a genuine error. OK, he may not warm the ****les of all our hearts but I think he meant well and was not being malicious. We might all be posturing and macho about this but I believe underneath, as genuine fans, we are all stressed out about what might or might not be happening with Saints. Time to step back a pace or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 With respect to all. Maybe we should all calm down a little? I truly believe that,despite his recent bluster about it, GM made a genuine error. You are wrong here 100% guarenteed. GM knew very well what he was posting and his motives were re-opening old differences. As the saying goes "two can play at that game" and he'd be well advised to consider if he really wants to go down that road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 You are wrong here 100% guarenteed. GM knew very well what he was posting and his motives were re-opening old differences. As the saying goes "two can play at that game" and he'd be well advised to consider if he really wants to go down that road.You are wrong. He posted the details thinking the address belonged to Pinnacle. When he realised it was Spence's home address he took it off the forum. But we all have opinions Tris, I just think yours is wrong on this occassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 GM has gone strangely quiet since trousers posted his home address, how odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 You are wrong. He posted the details thinking the address belonged to Pinnacle. When he realised it was Spence's home address he took it off the forum. But we all have opinions Tris, I just think yours is wrong on this occassion. Freemasons sticking together, what a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 (edited) Freemasons sticking together, what a surprise.How wrong you are. I hope you will apologise for that comment. Edited 10 May, 2009 by Weston Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 How wrong you are. I hope you will apologise. It was a joke Weston. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 10 May, 2009 Share Posted 10 May, 2009 It was a joke Weston. Sorry.Apology accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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