Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 The big problem now is that as this process has taken so long, it is probably impossible to rescue the club if a buyer isn't forthcoming this week. Mike Osman felt on Saturday that there is so much apathy and the expectation that the club will be sold shortly that the legends match has only sold 700 tickets. It may be that it won't now take place. In the event of the club failing to find a buyer it was the only way of generating £0.5m quickly to buy time, now that option has disappeared. I think the legends match hasn't taken off because £20 is just to much to watch a band of fat forty somethings having a kick about.Surely some sort of serious match would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 I think the legends match hasn't taken off because £20 is just to much to watch a band of fat forty somethings having a kick about.Surely some sort of serious match would have been better. It was the opportunity for 32000 'fans' to donate £20 each to buy time for the club. What happens in the 90mins is irrelevant. If there isn't a buyer I expect us to be wound up by the end of the month. I just hope the bidders are not all smoke and mirrors, fantasists who have assets but in the end don't have the cash. That is my big fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 It was the opportunity for 32000 'fans' to donate £20 each to buy time for the club. What happens in the 90mins is irrelevant. If there isn't a buyer I expect us to be wound up by the end of the month. I just hope the bidders are not all smoke and mirrors, fantasists who have assets but in the end don't have the cash. That is my big fear. But we couldn't even get 32000 fans for the real football. I'm not even sure that the club has that many fans,not at £20 a head anyway. We used to get 32000 in the prem but I'm sure that there were a few neutrals in that number. I go to matches in France, quite a few but I'm not a supporter of any of the teams, I go to watch the football.I'v been to 9 games at St Etienne, 3 in Lyon and 2 in Grenoble this season,not a fan of any of them though. I used to watch PSG and RCf on alternate weeks when they played a the Parc des Princes,never a fan of either of them, I just went to watch Football. I even go to Rugby matches at Clermont,get cheap tickets from work,and I know nothing about Rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 It was the opportunity for 32000 'fans' to donate £20 each to buy time for the club. What happens in the 90mins is irrelevant. If there isn't a buyer I expect us to be wound up by the end of the month. As i've said before i do not consider paying players wages to be a worthy cause. £20 is far too much for what is a nothing game. I'd rather pay £15 and watch the southern masters 5 a side tournament (if we're in it :mad:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 As i've said before i do not consider paying players wages to be a worthy cause. £20 is far too much for what is a nothing game. I'd rather pay £15 and watch the southern masters 5 a side tournament (if we're in it :mad:). If we are wound up by the end of the month the players will still be paid by the PFA but we won't have a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2009 think there is only 4 players playing anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 In the event of the club failing to find a buyer it was the only way of generating £0.5m quickly to buy time, now that option has disappeared. What is the monthly player wage bill, roughly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 What is the monthly player wage bill, roughly? 400K+ Less Skacel,Smith abnd some loanees. Still 400K though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 What is the monthly player wage bill, roughly? At a guess £300,000. Saga, Euell, Skacel nearly £100,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 It was the opportunity for 32000 'fans' to donate £20 each to buy time for the club. What happens in the 90mins is irrelevant. If there isn't a buyer I expect us to be wound up by the end of the month. I just hope the bidders are not all smoke and mirrors, fantasists who have assets but in the end don't have the cash. That is my big fear. Why don't they give fans the opportunity to buy a season ticket for next season? 15,000 x £350 = >£5m. Whilst not going into what was the plc it can surely be ring-fenced and used to show that there is £5m off he bat in terms of the overall annual revenue? Given the choice of a season ticket and £20 for a fund raiser I know what I would rather contribute to (having already donated 2 tickets for the burnley community scheme, in buying merchandise, and contribution to SOS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 It was the opportunity for 32000 'fans' to donate £20 each to buy time for the club. What happens in the 90mins is irrelevant. If there isn't a buyer I expect us to be wound up by the end of the month. I just hope the bidders are not all smoke and mirrors, fantasists who have assets but in the end don't have the cash. That is my big fear. Hi Derry What's the position regarding if we are wound up and entering the Blue Square Conference? It was reported that this could happen is that still the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 400K+ Less Skacel,Smith abnd some loanees. Still 400K though. So, the players have a choice then....? a) don't waive this month's pay and don't get it anyway because we can't pay it or b) waive this months pay so that the club doesn't default on it's financial commitments and thus stays afloat (for another month which may buy enough time) Either way, the players don't get their cash, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 Hi Derry What's the position regarding if we are wound up and entering the Blue Square Conference? It was reported that this could happen is that still the case? I haven't a clue, but if we are wound up it would have to be something new like Aldershot started in the equivalent of the Wessex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 Why don't they give fans the opportunity to buy a season ticket for next season? 15,000 x £350 = >£5m. Whilst not going into what was the plc it can surely be ring-fenced and used to show that there is £5m off he bat in terms of the overall annual revenue? Given the choice of a season ticket and £20 for a fund raiser I know what I would rather contribute to (having already donated 2 tickets for the burnley community scheme, in buying merchandise, and contribution to SOS) Wholeheartedly agree. I can only think there must be some artificial legal barrier to raising 'protected' funds in this way. Madness either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 Either way, the players don't get their cash, do they? There would then be a queue of 40 odd solicitors lining up outside Mark Fry's office, not to mention, representatives of the non-playing staff. Leon would go among them distributing alms like good Queen Bess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 Wholeheartedly agree. I can only think there must be some artificial legal barrier to raising 'protected' funds in this way. Madness either way. Sale of goods act probably has something against that sort of wheeze I think You could sell 15000 supporters a symbolic and distinguishable Saints Scarf at £320 which could be exchanged at a later date for a Season Ticket though. Don't know how many would punt £320 right now though. Credit card agencies probably wouldn't touch it and that's the nub of the problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson massey Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 At a guess £300,000. Saga, Euell, Skacel nearly £100,000. Is this true? - that those 3 are on an average of 33k each??!! Surely thats too high - i'm definately not saying you are wrong because i dont know myself, but it just seems absurdly high, so just wanted to make sure If so i'm not surprised we are where we are (financially i mean) COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 Is this true? - that those 3 are on an average of 33k each??!! Surely thats too high - i'm definately not saying you are wrong because i dont know myself, but it just seems absurdly high, so just wanted to make sure If so i'm not surprised we are where we are (financially i mean) COYR 33K for each of them for the month, probably a bit of an underestimation actually.Do not forget that there are always hidden charges on wage bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 33K for each of them for the month, probably a bit of an underestimation actually.Do not forget that there are always hidden charges on wage bills. Probably find we're like the House of Commons, paying out for second homes, cars, maids and the like, not to mention the National Insurance on top of their money You forget Thomas who's likely on almost as much as Skacel for keeping the phsyio employed this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson massey Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 33K for each of them for the month, probably a bit of an underestimation actually.Do not forget that there are always hidden charges on wage bills. Ok that makes a bit more sense now, i was thinking weekly - apologies, it was a long weekend Still, thats alot out for very little return..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 Probably find we're like the House of Commons, paying out for second homes, cars, maids and the like, not to mention the National Insurance on top of their money Probably also paying for overhauling the lawn mowers and hedgetrimmers of the 2 who are on gardening leave. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we're still paying off Wigley and Sturrock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 11 May, 2009 Share Posted 11 May, 2009 400K+ Less Skacel,Smith abnd some loanees. Still 400K though. I reckon you've underestimated our monthly wage bill there!!!!!! I reckon as much as £600k a month, maybe even more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2009 am hearing this may well be the £8m one - how linked he is /involvement I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 am hearing this may well be the £8m one - how linked he is /involvement I don't know Don't worry there's bound to be a last minute hitch. Forget this one, it will go know where if Wacko Jacko is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 May, 2009 Share Posted 13 May, 2009 Is this true? - that those 3 are on an average of 33k each??!! Surely thats too high - i'm definately not saying you are wrong because i dont know myself, but it just seems absurdly high, so just wanted to make sure If so i'm not surprised we are where we are (financially i mean) COYR £8000 per week is about £34700 per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 May, 2009 Share Posted 15 May, 2009 This is the main problem. I'd have gone to the game for a laugh, but it's really frustrating knowing you're donating money to pay the wages of some lazy talentless chavs. Yes it's about saving the club, but when there's so many worthless people draining money out of it, scraping together 10% of their weekly wages doesn't seem all that worthwhile. Correct. It's a shame so many people take this view as "you don't care about the club I supported as a boy through thick and thin where's the passion gone everyone is so spineless blah blah blah etc etc etc etc" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 15 May, 2009 Share Posted 15 May, 2009 As i've said before i do not consider paying players wages to be a worthy cause. £20 is far too much for what is a nothing game. I'd rather pay £15 and watch the southern masters 5 a side tournament (if we're in it :mad:). No more do I, but the consequences of not paying the players wages will make the 10 point deduction seem like a bonus. Remember Stan - you were the one who wanted to be in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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