Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Am I the only one to just find the hysteria about this funny? Jeez guys the bloke is there because he is mates with the Forest chairman. And this turns into some sort of panic that spreads like wildfire that me is involved in one of the bids? Based on no evidence whatsoever.... you lot need to chill a bit. Then we have the twofaced hypocracy of Crouch who has not been absent from SMS despite his contribution to the situation - he may not eb as culpable as LOwe, but he is not totally blameless either so he should STFU as well. Finally, I really dont think or want him to return, but all those who were jumping for joy and wishing administration on us as a vehicle to get rid of Lowe were warned - there would be nothing to stop him commingback, and worse than that, no shareholders who could be lobbied to prevent it - be careful waht you wish for as they say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Why should we be worried about Lowe being in the opposition's board room this week end? He has been the opposition for long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I must admit there is a certain irony that on the day that Southampton FC finally slip into the old Third Division the one man who presided the most over the club's decline from the Premiership should be watching his old club in the director's box at the invitation of the opposing Chairman. (Adding to the irony of course is the knowledge that had one of Lowe's favourite players, David McGoldrick not missed that penalty last week then the Notts Forest chairman would probably be not so full of largesse.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Even your answer tells me you just can't get away from the man. You are obviously a big fan of Rupes...But opinions[-X The mere fact of what he does now highlights what a piece of work he is.:mad: He is a nasty little man in my eyes. Some of his followers on this forum portray that spiteful trait that he also has.[-X Let him anywhere near this club again and he will finish us for good...In my view the man is an utter idiot and his little band of dancing majorettes make me laugh...Pom Poms all a twirl...Ruperts girls have got no talent.:smt117 But john you and your little twirlers carry on free country and all that.[-X For nearly a year I have been trying to say I have no admiration for Lowe. I felt he was better at running a football club than Crouch or Wilde. Also I felt the blind hatred of him by the fans was not going to help the club in avoiding administration. As a supporter I feel we should support the club not continually whinge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Am I the only one to just find the hysteria about this funny? Jeez guys the bloke is there because he is mates with the Forest chairman. And this turns into some sort of panic that spreads like wildfire that me is involved in one of the bids? Based on no evidence whatsoever.... you lot need to chill a bit. Then we have the twofaced hypocracy of Crouch who has not been absent from SMS despite his contribution to the situation - he may not eb as culpable as LOwe, but he is not totally blameless either so he should STFU as well. Finally, I really dont think or want him to return, but all those who were jumping for joy and wishing administration on us as a vehicle to get rid of Lowe were warned - there would be nothing to stop him commingback, and worse than that, no shareholders who could be lobbied to prevent it - be careful waht you wish for as they say.... Keep twirling that baton matey...Lowe is pants at everything he touches and God help us if he ever gets near this club again but I suppose some of you will be invited to the last supper...Just hope your little team at least use Red and White Pom Poms[-X Everyone of your posts is pro Rupert and anti Leon....Oponions eh! Maybe we are all tosssers...SUM more than others:smt117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I find it very sad that some people on here deem it acceptable to have a go at Leon Crouch when, financially, he has put more into this club in the last, what, 3 years than RL did in 13. This is the Leon Crouch who paid for the Ted Bates statue, paid the wages (or contributed to at least) of several loan players when the club could not afford it, has lost £1.6m worth of shares but has still put money into the club in the last month to help keep it going until a buyer is found. It is the same one isnt it ? I'm sorry but to slag him off when Lowe has done NOTHING - not even a £1000 towards the fund that even catweazel Askham contributed to - is beyond contempt. And to further twist the knife he is going to turn up at Forest, regardless of an invite from their Chairman, to witness the last rites of SFC in the Championship whilst rubbing dirt into the noses of the Saints fans who will be there. It is disgusting and I hope all of you going make it as plain and clear for the arrogant sod just how the majority of us feel towards him. His petulance in getting rid of Pearson just because it wasnt his appointment only to replace him with a half ****ed Dutch experiment where we were going to be Ajax of the 70's beggars belief. He is scum and i hope he never sets foot into the city of Southampton ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I must admit there is a certain irony that on the day that Southampton FC finally slip into the old Third Division the one man who presided the most over the club's decline from the Premiership should be watching his old club in the director's box at the invitation of the opposing Chairman. (Adding to the irony of course is the knowledge that had one of Lowe's favourite players, David McGoldrick not missed that penalty last week then the Notts Forest chairman would probably be not so full of largesse.) I agree the Nottm Forest Chairman may still have been full of largesse but would have been very worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Crouch is right, it shows a lack of respect. But that's not exactly a surprise is it. Hope some nutter stabs the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I'm not sure I buy into Crouch screaming about Lowe's "cheek" when the multi millionaire Leon Crouch has been walking round St Mary's with a bucket asking for donations from average wage earners to fund a business he is a significant shareholder in. And that bucket money going to pay the wages of men on five grand a week. That's cheek and absolutely obscene in my book. But should Lowe be at Forest? Of course not and this just goes to show what an odious, snivelling little git he is. He'll get a mouthful from me and 2,000 others on Sunday. You can't argue with that really. I did think Crouch was a bit cheeky in his comments about Lowe going to Nottingham when, like it or not, he did play a part in our downfall... And a millionaire walking with a charity bucket? Well the irony wasn't lost on me either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 For nearly a year I have been trying to say I have no admiration for Lowe. I felt he was better at running a football club than Crouch or Wilde. Also I felt the blind hatred of him by the fans was not going to help the club in avoiding administration. As a supporter I feel we should support the club not continually whinge Never seen Rupes girls whinge then john....You frank, jonah and pals have been doing it for a while now.[-X.Tears for the loved one....You see nothing wrong in what your buddy has done to this club and now after his damage limitation exercise through the media he wants to gloat at Forest.. Lowe is a cretin and a very spiteful man....Each to their own.:smt117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I agree the Nottm Forest Chairman may still have been full of largesse but would have been very worried He would not be worried though would he?.......we were down anyway with the -10 points! :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I guess Crouch doesn't do irony - whilst Lowe has kept away from SMS and is only attending the City Ground in the Forest section as their guest, why doesn't Crouch heed his own advice and keep away "after all he's done to the club"? Seems to me that's he's the one who won't leave it alone and butt out. None of them are Directors now, they are all free to go and watch Saints, but none of them should be sat in the *Saints* Directors area and none of them should be left with the misplaced opinion that they hold any sway at the club any more. It's no wonder the Echo phone him for another free back page headline - he just can't help himself, it's cringeworthy. What? And Lowe's PR tour, absolving himself of any blame isn't ironic?? Lowe has kept away from SMS has he? He's kept a "lowe" profile has he?? I must have dreamt up those provocative statements he made to the media absolving himself of any blame then?? Unbelievable how you can pick Crouch apart and yet blatantly ignore Lowe doing exactly the same. Crouch may not be blameless, he was a chairman, he deserves some of the blame, but the way you pick him apart whilst ignoring Lowe's confrontational, provocative stance which effectively sticks two fingers up at the fans, is just plain weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Lowe ensured our relegation by just missing the deadline for administration with a company that could have gone at any point in the previous two months. He is now the guest of honour at one of the clubs who benefited from this rather odd move. Mmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 He would not be worried though would he?.......we were down anyway with the -10 points! :-( Not for sure with an appeal in the offing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I must admit there is a certain irony that on the day that Southampton FC finally slip into the old Third Division the one man who presided the most over the club's decline from the Premiership should be watching his old club in the director's box at the invitation of the opposing Chairman. (Adding to the irony of course is the knowledge that had one of Lowe's favourite players, David McGoldrick not missed that penalty last week then the Notts Forest chairman would probably be not so full of largesse.) Anyone who thinks he will be at Notts Forest just because he wants to see a game of Footy, need to think again Could well be that Fry may have announced something by then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I must admit there is a certain irony that on the day that Southampton FC finally slip into the old Third Division the one man who presided the most over the club's decline from the Premiership should be watching his old club in the director's box at the invitation of the opposing Chairman. (Adding to the irony of course is the knowledge that had one of Lowe's favourite players, David McGoldrick not missed that penalty last week then the Notts Forest chairman would probably be not so full of largesse.) Having said that though Duncan, do you not feel that Crouch's comment on this was a tad hypocritical? We know that Lowe is so brass necked, and bullish that he probably does not even think about the potential impact his presence may have, and also believes he has teh right solution.... but Crouch seems unable to keep his gob shut and out of controvercy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Keep twirling that baton matey...Lowe is pants at everything he touches and God help us if he ever gets near this club again but I suppose some of you will be invited to the last supper...Just hope your little team at least use Red and White Pom Poms[-X Everyone of your posts is pro Rupert and anti Leon....Oponions eh! Maybe we are all tosssers...SUM more than others:smt117 Have you replaced Alpine as the forum clown? Whatever, believe what you want, I really dont give a flying feck. The simple difference between you and me is that I would not be happy with anyof them, yet somehoow there are those still of the naive belief that Crouch is the saviour - kep bending over and clasping your arse chheks matey ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Lowe ensured our relegation by just missing the deadline for administration with a company that could have gone at any point in the previous two months. He is now the guest of honour at one of the clubs who benefited from this rather odd move. Mmmmm. We are relegated anyway - regardless of the deduction, so does that fact get in the way? What ensured our relegation was the emptying of the clubs coffers over the previous two season - when incidentally Lowe wasn't on the board - but hell, lets blame him for trying to pull it round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Never seen Rupes girls whinge then john....You frank, jonah and pals have been doing it for a while now.[-X.Tears for the loved one....You see nothing wrong in what your buddy has done to this club and now after his damage limitation exercise through the media he wants to gloat at Forest.. Lowe is a cretin and a very spiteful man....Each to their own.:smt117 I am beginning to think you cant actually read ... Lowe mistakes and how they ahve contributed to the mess has never been in doubt- and he needs to be judged on those. All i have ever said is that a) I dont believe these wer done with the malice and ignorance that some of you 'wise' folk believe, b) he is not the only guilty party, c) Crouch is not the answer - so tell me how that is pro Lowe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Have you replaced Alpine as the forum clown? Whatever' date=' believe what you want, I really dont give a flying feck. The simple difference between you and me is that I would not be happy with anyof them, yet somehoow there are those still of the naive belief that Crouch is the saviour - kep bending over and clasping your arse chheks matey ;-)[/quote'] Mr angry.:mad:.you are so rude and very very spiteful you just can't help yourself. Your little Ruppettes are on form today.[-X.You have the same thoughts as a vlot of Public School types..Bend over asss cheeeks, very course, where did you learn that sort of behaviour...Lets all play with Rupert Frankey baby.:smt117 Anyway frankey..do me a favour..at least reassure me you and your team of twirlers have red and white Ra Ra skirts and Pom Poms. I am off to the circus now...Rehearsal for tonight and all that:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Well said Leon most fans would agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 (edited) We are relegated anyway - regardless of the deduction, so does that fact get in the way? What ensured our relegation was the emptying of the clubs coffers over the previous two season - when incidentally Lowe wasn't on the board - but hell, lets blame him for trying to pull it round. Wot does Rupert have over you little choir boys...Very strange team formation on here today..Prof you must stop these tears..The little weasel is history as he is now in the throws of a takeover Of Notts Forest....SUM FING TO DO WITH REVERSE TAKOVER AND OLD PEEPS HOMES.....oF COURSE YOUR LITTLE MAN WILL BE PUTTING NO DOSH INTO fOREST BUT HAS SOME REALLY REALLY SPLENDID REVOLUTIONARY IDEAS HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL BUSINESS..Lots of practice and all that....STILL not very good with money matters yet.:smt117 Keep up the good work prof.....Team Frank, john, jonah...Formation ready for Rupes inspection. Edited 1 May, 2009 by ottery st mary spellin reading too many of Franks cousins posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I guess Crouch doesn't do irony - whilst Lowe has kept away from SMS and is only attending the City Ground in the Forest section as their guest, why doesn't Crouch heed his own advice and keep away "after all he's done to the club"? Seems to me that's he's the one who won't leave it alone and butt out. None of them are Directors now, they are all free to go and watch Saints, but none of them should be sat in the *Saints* Directors area and none of them should be left with the misplaced opinion that they hold any sway at the club any more. It's no wonder the Echo phone him for another free back page headline - he just can't help himself, it's cringeworthy. Of course if Crouch had heeded your advice and "butted out" as you so nicely put it, the club wouldn't exist at all any more. It's thanks to his recent donations that the club has survived. No doubt you'll have a smart arse reply to that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 It appears to me that Crouch's comments aside, am I the only one thinking how unbelievably inappropriate Lowe's actions are?? How can people defend his right to attend a game with hospitality provided by a fellow "chairman" when... a) It's hopsitality supplied by the chairman of a club that, had the FA not relegated us, would be a direct relegation rival? and b) It's rather inappropriate, when the emotions still run high, to enflame the situation. Surely he must see how unpopular he is? Why would he do this unless he either doesn't care or thinks he's right, we're wrong and this is just a "**** you." Either way surely there comes a point when someone realises they're not welcome, not liked and just can go away, lick their wounds and try something different? His attitude seems to suggest a serious personality flaw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Mr angry.:mad:.you are so rude and very very spiteful you just can't help yourself. Your little Ruppettes are on form today.[-X.You have the same thoughts as a vlot of Public School types..Bend over asss cheeeks, very course, where did you learn that sort of behaviour...Lets all play with Rupert Frankey baby.:smt117 Anyway frankey..do me a favour..at least reassure me you and your team of twirlers have red and white Ra Ra skirts and Pom Poms. I am off to the circus now...Rehearsal for tonight and all that:cool: I used to be angry - at whats happened, I used to find the fans on here funny in their huffing and puffing vitriolic abuse of one man, without applying the same evaluation to everyone involved - and then claiming a 'balanced' opinion - ironic certainly - but now I just find it sad.... so at a level that I am sure even you will be able to understand ... Once upon a time, there was a nasty big bad wolf called Rupert trying to blow down the the the in which the lovely little piggies lived, that house was called St Mary's cottage, but when the wolf ran out of puff and gave up, the little piggies had been so 'down trodden' and 'vitimised by the bad wolf that they in effect suffered a kind of wired Stockholm syndrome effect, went outside and started huffing and puffing to blow their own house down and then continued to blame the effects on the wolf Rupert who had since departed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 No doubt you'll have a smart arse reply to that as well. Almost certain my friend, they always have, as long as its avoiding the topic/real issue ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 b) It's rather inappropriate, when the emotions still run high, to enflame the situation. Surely he must see how unpopular he is? Why would he do this unless he either doesn't care or thinks he's right, we're wrong and this is just a "**** you." Either way surely there comes a point when someone realises they're not welcome, not liked and just can go away, lick their wounds and try something different? His attitude seems to suggest a serious personality flaw... I think you have just hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I used to be angry - at whats happened, I used to find the fans on here funny in their huffing and puffing vitriolic abuse of one man, without applying the same evaluation to everyone involved - and then claiming a 'balanced' opinion - ironic certainly - but now I just find it sad.... so at a level that I am sure even you will be able to understand ... Once upon a time, there was a nasty big bad wolf called Rupert trying to blow down the the the in which the lovely little piggies lived, that house was called St Mary's cottage, but when the wolf ran out of puff and gave up, the little piggies had been so 'down trodden' and 'vitimised by the bad wolf that they in effect suffered a kind of wired Stockholm syndrome effect, went outside and started huffing and puffing to blow their own house down and then continued to blame the effects on the wolf Rupert who had since departed... Very good Frankey...Public School does achieve without cheating in exams sum times.:smt117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Why does anyone care so much what Lowe does? I honestly can't raise even the slightest interest in whether he's at Forest or at Twickenham or shooting ducks. Sadly, I'm sure 2000 "SFC fans" will probably spend more time singing about Lowe during the game and he will be their focus rather than SFC. Now that's weird and quite obsessional. As for beatlesaint's point about Crouch "putting more into the club", well you have a point to an extent. However, the statue was just fan-friendly PR and didn't put a penny into the club. In terms of the multi-millionaire going around with the begging bowl at SMS, yes he's stumped up £50k himself, but that's not exactly philanthropic behaviour given (a) he always said he wasn't bothered about losing his £1.5m in shares, (b) he continually "boasted" about being prepared to put £2m in, and © he brought in Wilde and the muppets who took us from "cash-in-hand with Lowe in charge" to "£6.5m overdrawn with Lowe in charge" within 2 short years. That's a lot of stuff to conveniently ignore whilst he soundbites to the local rag about a former Director. For all the complaints about Lowe, I don't see much in the way in terms of contrition from Crouch as he continues to parade around the club and press. Meanwhile, since Crouch's £50k makes him so special in the eyes of some, I assume Mike Richards will be given the same credit for his £50k and therefore welcomed at the City Ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 We are relegated anyway - regardless of the deduction, so does that fact get in the way? What ensured our relegation was the emptying of the clubs coffers over the previous two season - when incidentally Lowe wasn't on the board - but hell, lets blame him for trying to pull it round. Ah! I see that you've escaped from the cage again. It obviously escapes you that the emptying of the club's coffers was mostly affected by the first relegation from the gravy train known as the Premiership under the stewardship of one Rupert Graham Lowe. What followed was largely as a result of that. And yes, let's blame him for trying to turn it around, with his bizarre strategy of dismissing somebody capable and replacing them with incompetant nondescripts resulting in our further relegation to the third division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 It appears to me that Crouch's comments aside, am I the only one thinking how unbelievably inappropriate Lowe's actions are?? How can people defend his right to attend a game with hospitality provided by a fellow "chairman" when... a) It's hopsitality supplied by the chairman of a club that, had the FA not relegated us, would be a direct relegation rival? and b) It's rather inappropriate, when the emotions still run high, to enflame the situation. Surely he must see how unpopular he is? Why would he do this unless he either doesn't care or thinks he's right, we're wrong and this is just a "**** you." Either way surely there comes a point when someone realises they're not welcome, not liked and just can go away, lick their wounds and try something different? His attitude seems to suggest a serious personality flaw... Fair points, but had we not been in admin, and Lowe was still here, he would ahve been in the directors box whatever was riding on this game TBH... I am just finiding it difficult to understand why folk are so up in arms with all thhis hysteria about how 'insulting it is' - etc - so what I really dont give a tos about LOwe, he can do what he likes now. Its only and issue for fans if they let it be - and naturally its a great excuse to get all 'hot and bothered' over Lowe again when the reality is he is insignifiicant now - let it go is what I would say - if he is as evil a bastard as some believe surely he is not even worth teh effort of acknowledgement - by getting allwound up by, you are creating exactly the kind of publicity about all this the Lowe probably wants - if fans really do still habve teh need to insult him, teh best way of doing that is ignoring him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Why does anyone care so much what Lowe does? I honestly can't raise even the slightest interest in whether he's at Forest or at Twickenham or shooting ducks. Sadly, I'm sure 2000 "SFC fans" will probably spend more time singing about Lowe during the game and he will be their focus rather than SFC. Now that's weird and quite obsessional. Be fair Jonah. Lowe going along to watch Saints at the invitation of a competitor chairman is the thing that's "weird and quite obsessional". I think a normal person would either a) go off and do something else and give up Saints as a bad job badly done or, if we are going to accept he does have feelings for the club b) have enough empathy with the fans to understand his presence on Sunday would antagonise them, be easily interpreted as a f-you and completely counter productive. You can't blame fans for feeling sick he's going to be there. The "weird and quite obsessional" thing is him thinking going to the City Ground would be anything other than an appalling idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 (edited) Very good Frankey...Public School does achieve without cheating in exams sum times.:smt117 Sorry to dissapoint but I went to state school.. but hey dont want to spoil your 'fantasy' Edited 1 May, 2009 by Frank's cousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Surely the club should ask Forest to withdraw the invitiation on the grounds of health and safety. The club should realise that just RL's presence will be likely to cause health and safety issues to not only our fans but to their stewards and police.I do not condone any violence and have no major issues with RL except him making some terrible decisions, (this could be a major one as well).Being selfish i am concerned that crowd disturbances combined with last weeks invasion could cost the club dear. Frankly i dont worry if RL is there or not but I do see it it as insensitive to the fans mood and thoughts and may well cause conflict again amongst each other as well as perhaps hotheads trying to get at him. Time may prove that he has not been as bad as made out, but until he can provide the info i suggest he keeps away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 You have to be pretty thick if you don't understand why Lowe going on Sunday will annoy the supporters. Crouch is just saying what every other Saints fan will be thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Sorry to dissapoint but I went to state school.. but hey dont want to spoil your 'fantasy' Out of interest wot school was that Frank....Was it a Saints supporting school crowd. COYR and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Why does anyone care so much what Lowe does? I honestly can't raise even the slightest interest in whether he's at Forest or at Twickenham or shooting ducks. Sadly, I'm sure 2000 "SFC fans" will probably spend more time singing about Lowe during the game and he will be their focus rather than SFC. Now that's weird and quite obsessional. Even you can see that Lowe's attendance in a high profile environment such as the rival club's directors' box at our last match of the season is provocative. You admit the probability that 2000 away fans will be antagonised by his presence. So I ask again. If even you can realise that, why can't Lowe? And by the way, surely it is by definition that football fanaticism requires an extraordinarily obsessional behaviour. Why would that surprise you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 As we have no reason to cheer on The Saints, can we sing "Swing Lowe" throughout the whole game, surely we have got to that point where it now doesn't matter to "Support the team, not anti-Lowe chanting" rheteric that we had while the team still needed points?? Small minded and pathetic maybe but given the fact that he is there would at the least make him slightly embarrassed, in fact, we have proabably missed the boat in having the traditional fancy dress theme now, tweed jackets and plastic ducks anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Surely the club should ask Forest to withdraw the invitiation on the grounds of health and safety. The club should realise that just RL's presence will be likely to cause health and safety issues to not only our fans but to their stewards and police.I do not condone any violence and have no major issues with RL except him making some terrible decisions, (this could be a major one as well).Being selfish i am concerned that crowd disturbances combined with last weeks invasion could cost the club dear. Frankly i dont worry if RL is there or not but I do see it it as insensitive to the fans mood and thoughts and may well cause conflict again amongst each other as well as perhaps hotheads trying to get at him. Time may prove that he has not been as bad as made out, but until he can provide the info i suggest he keeps away. Very sensible, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Banner please: dUCK OFF LOWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Ah! I see that you've escaped from the cage again. It obviously escapes you that the emptying of the club's coffers was mostly affected by the first relegation from the gravy train known as the Premiership under the stewardship of one Rupert Graham Lowe. What followed was largely as a result of that. And yes, let's blame him for trying to turn it around, with his bizarre strategy of dismissing somebody capable and replacing them with incompetant nondescripts resulting in our further relegation to the third division.Wes it is about time both sides of this debate accepted the balme is not down to ONE person. yes we got relegated and some of the blame is at his door but not all. You are in business, you should know that yuo make financial decisions on the situation there and then and knowing that your cash flow was going to drop like a stone is it time to splash the cash in a gamble? i wouldn't ,i would have taken the steps to secure the clubs future and still be strong enough to make a challenge. RL came back on invitation of the man the majority celebrated his arrival. (not me) His return was sparked by MW's concern that the club was spiralling out of financial control. It was a poisoned chalice and whilst RL could not stop the fall (who forsaw Barclays cutting their overdrat from an agreed 5m to 4m?) Stand back and look from the outside and look at it 2 managers 3 wins in 17 games or 4 wins in 17 games,neither would make you want to employ them. NP leaving may have ben a misytake but we wil never know if he would have done any better than we did. Lets all move on , none of the directors IMO have anything to be proud of and that goes back a long time IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 or, if we are going to accept he does have feelings for the club b) have enough empathy with the fans to understand his presence on Sunday would antagonise them, be easily interpreted as a f-you and completely counter productive. Well we know he thinks it's all a bit "pantomime villain" and I'm sure after 13 years of abuse he's quite thick-skinned about it so probably doesn't think it's a big deal. After all, it's an away game, nothing riding on it now, invited by Forest, why should anyone really care? Not to mention it was Barclays pulling the £6.5m overdraft that caused the administration, not him. So it cuts both ways, to me any fans "feeling sick" about it are a bit unbalanced and lacking in perspective. Players leave us all the time and come with other teams, so do managers. Hoddle, Beattie, Redknapp, all worthy of booing and a bit of atmosphere, but blind hated and rage? The only time I can think I came anywhere near such a feeling was when Alan Ball returned with Man City and I drove 900 miles through the night to make sure I was there to give him some stick ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Out of interest wot school was that Frank....Was it a Saints supporting school crowd. COYR and all that.OSM why are you decrying a fellow supporter who only wants what he sees best for the club? You may arrogantly believe that your view is the only correct one, but there are always 2 sides to a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 And by the way, surely it is by definition that football fanaticism requires an extraordinarily obsessional behaviour. Why would that surprise you? Because the obsession is usually with supporting the club, not hating an ex-chairman of the PLC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 (edited) You have to be pretty thick if you don't understand why Lowe going on Sunday will annoy the supporters. Crouch is just saying what every other Saints fan will be thinking. Sorry, just disagre - I can see the OBVIOUS effect this having as we see by this thread, what I find a bit daft is WHY - just ignore the tosser and thats by far the best way to insult him... the way it loks now is that he has once again succeeeded in winding up those who he considers ignorant... Edited 1 May, 2009 by Frank's cousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleRay Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I'm there in the 'prawn sandwich' seats. May have a little 'chat' if the opportunity arises.:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Well we know he thinks it's all a bit "pantomime villain" and I'm sure after 13 years of abuse he's quite thick-skinned about it so probably doesn't think it's a big deal. After all, it's an away game, nothing riding on it now, invited by Forest, why should anyone really care? Not to mention it was Barclays pulling the £6.5m overdraft that caused the administration, not him. So it cuts both ways, to me any fans "feeling sick" about it are a bit unbalanced and lacking in perspective. Players leave us all the time and come with other teams, so do managers. Hoddle, Beattie, Redknapp, all worthy of booing and a bit of atmosphere, but blind hated and rage? The only time I can think I came anywhere near such a feeling was when Alan Ball returned with Man City and I drove 900 miles through the night to make sure I was there to give him some stick ;-)Alan Ball, Lawrie, Hoddle,KK,Mark Wright even Mick Channon were seen as villains in my eyes when they upped sticks and left us. How dare they leave the greatest club on earth.Sadly as Ive grown older I have realised the stupidity of my blind faith. Once my loyalty has been scorned then i find it hard to forgive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Out of interest wot school was that Frank....Was it a Saints supporting school crowd. COYR and all that. Again I dissapoint, filled to the brim with plastic scousers as most schools were in the 70s and 80s... Did Leon go you yours? Or is there a shrine in your house to the Crouchmaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 I must admit there is a certain irony that on the day that Southampton FC finally slip into the old Third Division the one man who presided the most over the club's decline from the Premiership should be watching his old club in the director's box at the invitation of the opposing Chairman. (Adding to the irony of course is the knowledge that had one of Lowe's favourite players, David McGoldrick not missed that penalty last week then the Notts Forest chairman would probably be not so full of largesse.) My thoughts exactly... still Lowe's very obliging to other chairmen, afterall he did put the Doncaster train up in the boardroom and take down a picture of our most successful footballing moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 May, 2009 Share Posted 1 May, 2009 Anyone surprised His Rupertship did not attend St Mary's last Saturday given his newly found interest in our plight.Had he been there then I expect the pitch invasion might have had an entirely different mood to it. I have'nt got a ticket for Forest but will rely on those there to leave Lowe in no uncertainty as to his popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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