Lowe & Richards in board room on Sunday at Forest....Confirmed by Club

[benjii]

Me too.

 

All those that say "if it means Lowe returning or Saints not exhistiing" etc etc, are missing the point.

If Lowe returns there really will be no Saints.

 

Aboslutely.

 

"Saints", as we knew it ceased to be when it was placed into the hands of insolvency practitioners. (Arguably it ceased the day a decent young manager was replaced by a ludicrous block-headed experiment.... but let's not go down that road now).

 

We now have a chance to return it to what I and I suspect many others grew to love. If that doesn't happen then so be it but there really is no logic in saying we all have to support it in whatever guise for all eternity. If it stinks (and I mean ideologically or morally, not on the pitch) then I will leave it.

[benjii]

See post 552 on the SSN breaking news thread - paula knows something.

 

That post says that Lowe personally asked Forest for a ticket.

 

How you get from that to "Lowe is Fry's 'favourite'", is anyone's guess.

[eelpie]

Am tempted to go now, just so I can wait outside after and lay one on that c*nt!

 

Stu, you've gone up in my estimation!

[Saint in Paradise]

IF Mr Lowe does return yet again I just cannot understand how anyone will just pay their

hard earned money to try and help him make more money.

To me that is like people giving into Hitler so as he

would stop bombing the UK so that it would stop the damage.

Thank God people had more backbone in those times, Saints will not be the Saints we know

and love IF that man comes back.:mad:

[um pahars]

Your either a bullsh1tter

 

Hello Mr Pot:D;)

[Katalinic]

If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure.

I will go elsewhere.

Don't wont to - but I will have had enough.

 

Totally agree. I would be finished with Lowe's version of SFC and would offer my support to any newly formed real SFC team (as per FC United).

[alpine_saint]

if this is true (and I have heard it is) then I think Saints fans should be very very worried.

 

There is only one reason why Lowe will be there and that is because he will be connected to the new owners.

 

I think Mark Fry has some questions to answer - I know he is not meant to be working for SFC or the fans but I am also hearing tales of "favouritism".

 

FFS, are you trying to say this nightmare is about to restart ?

 

Richards is a Grade A two-faced tw*t, it has to be said.

 

If Lowe comes back, the club will definitely die. So many people have indicated they are done if he comes back. Anyone who throws in with him with his track record at SFC is insane, they are going to lose their money.

 

What drives this pr*ck ? We're not that successful and not exactly a good business bet. Is he really so screwed in the head that wont let go ?

[alpine_saint]

To be honest Nick if Lowe was to return I'd left with no club anyway! I've had my season ticket for 20 years and I'll be renewing again this year, but not if Lowe, Wilde, Askham or Richards are involved.

 

As some one else pointed out, Lowe has been paid this year to take us into league 1 and administration, not only that us fans are now being asked to dig deep just to get to the end of the season, how sickening would it be to see that smug tw4t now come back and make another fortune out of us!

 

Great post.

 

The club really is in the last chance saloon, and it will be finished if he comes back.

 

More guaranteed interference from the board room

More half-baked d**khead coaching and management ideas

More idiotic false economising on the team.

 

I do not understand why he doesnt see that....

Edited 30 April, 2009 by alpine_saint

[John B]

Great post.

 

The club really is in the last chance saloon, and it will be finished if he comes back.

 

I do not understand why he doesnt see that....

 

He probably does that is why he wont be coming back

[alpine_saint]

He probably does that is why he wont be coming back

 

Yeah, right. Heard it all last time.

[Katalinic]

He probably does that is why he wont be coming back

 

If it was anyone else I would agree but Lowe is a different breed - he is thick skinned, vindicative and arrogant enough to think he can walk back in. I know for a fact that the day after he usurped when Wilde came into town that he was already plotting his return and telling anyone that would listen that he would be back.

[John B]

Yeah, right. Heard it all last time.

 

OK you are right there I never expected him back but with no shareholders to support him where is the evidence that he will return.

 

It all appears to be Hysteria to me.

 

Or a campaign to wind up people like you.

[fos1]

If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure.

I will go elsewhere.

Don't wont to - but I will have had enough.

 

Duncan I am with you on this, Lowe has wrecked our club I have had enough of him, we need to make it clear to Fry that Lowe should never return to our boardroom in any capacity.Sundays game has no relevance, and with Lowe sat in the directors box with a smug grin on his face, it is an oppotunity for the fans to let him know he is not welcome ever again at our club!!

[jonah]

I assume there were similar complaints when Crouch and McMenemy were sat in the Directors box at SMS?

 

I think it would be interesting if Lowe came back so all those who say "I'd go elsewhere" can go off and start their own club and leave the rest to support SFC - seeing as they all know better it would be a good test to see which club is where in 5 years time. Can't be difficult to do better than Lowe so nothing to lose - everyone's a winner?

[TNT]

I assume there were similar complaints when Crouch and McMenemy were sat in the Directors box at SMS?

 

Not seen either in the box since last year.

 

Not sure either Mac or Crouch relegated SFC twice et all.

[Greenridge]

Not seen either in the box since last year.

 

Not sure either Mac or Crouch relegated SFC twice et all.

 

Unfortunately I think this fact goes straight over Jonah's head and hence why he is missing the point completely.....again

[TNT]

Unfortunately I think this fact goes straight over Jonah's head and hence why he is missing the point completely.....again

 

I tell a lie apperently Crouch was a guest of Richards for the recent charlton match. But thats it. He has two exec boxs to sit in

[John B]

Unfortunately I think this fact goes straight over Jonah's head and hence why he is missing the point completely.....again

 

Sorry I do not understand your logic.

 

It is possible for anybody to be invited in to the Directors Box at any ground.

 

 

Somebody I used to work with was a Vice President at Chelsea and used to invite people when thier team played at Stamford Bridge.

 

Unfortunately he passed away sometime ago

[Wes Tender]

I assume there were similar complaints when Crouch and McMenemy were sat in the Directors box at SMS?

 

I think it would be interesting if Lowe came back so all those who say "I'd go elsewhere" can go off and start their own club and leave the rest to support SFC - seeing as they all know better it would be a good test to see which club is where in 5 years time. Can't be difficult to do better than Lowe so nothing to lose - everyone's a winner?

 

As the answer to your first point is no, then what does that tell you about who would win a popularity contest between Lowe and Crouch/McMenemy?

 

I would suggest that the most unpopular man in Southampton at the moment is one Rupert Lowe. Do you wish to refute that?

 

I'm sure that most here would prefer unity from amongst the fanbase as being the best option to get us back as a stable club able to progress. But as it is becoming clear that this can never happen should Lowe return, I for one would rather support a new club starting from nowhere rather than the one that has Lowe back in control. But then of course, he would never be able to make it work if half of the fans desserted it, which is really what we should have done the minute he dismissed Pearson and cosied up to the Quisling. Had we put into effect the mass boycott then, he would have been gone within weeks and we might have had time to attract others to invest and appoint a manager who knew what he was doing.

[Greenridge]

Sorry I do not understand your logic.

 

It is possible for anybody to be invited in to the Directors Box at any ground.

 

 

Somebody I used to work with was a Vice President at Chelsea and used to invite people when thier team played at Stamford Bridge.

 

Unfortunately he passed away sometime ago

 

And I'm equally sorry that I don't understand your post. It's not about who can and can't be in a Directors box it's more the implications that certain individuals who have had a massively negative impact on the Club may or may not be in attendance and the implications that may or may not have on the future of the Club.

[John B]

As the answer to your first point is no, then what does that tell you about who would win a popularity contest between Lowe and Crouch/McMenemy?

 

I would suggest that the most unpopular man in Southampton at the moment is one Rupert Lowe. Do you wish to refute that?

 

I'm sure that most here would prefer unity from amongst the fanbase as being the best option to get us back as a stable club able to progress. But as it is becoming clear that this can never happen should Lowe return, I for one would rather support a new club starting from nowhere rather than the one that has Lowe back in control. But then of course, he would never be able to make it work if half of the fans desserted it, which is really what we should have done the minute he dismissed Pearson and cosied up to the Quisling. Had we put into effect the mass boycott then, he would have been gone within weeks and we might have had time to attract others to invest and appoint a manager who knew what he was doing.

 

 

I wish you were right but we have been trying to attract investment for the last three years with out any luck.

[John B]

And I'm equally sorry that I don't understand your post. It's not about who can and can't be in a Directors box it's more the implications that certain individuals who have had a massively negative impact on the Club may or may not be in attendance and the implications that may or may not have on the future of the Club.

 

I dont think anybody can be banned from the directors box because they have had a massively negative impact on the club in your opinion.

 

 

Lowe has nothing to do with SFC and according to all reports from the administrator is not involved in the bidding process.

[Greenridge]

I dont think anybody can be banned from the directors box because they have had a massively negative impact on the club in your opinion.

 

 

Lowe has nothing to do with SFC and according to all reports from the administrator is not involved in the bidding process.

 

Do you think it's up for debate about their impact on the Club? I give up, the white flag is waving.

[scally]

I assume there were similar complaints when Crouch and McMenemy were sat in the Directors box at SMS?

 

I think it would be interesting if Lowe came back so all those who say "I'd go elsewhere" can go off and start their own club and leave the rest to support SFC - seeing as they all know better it would be a good test to see which club is where in 5 years time. Can't be difficult to do better than Lowe so nothing to lose - everyone's a winner?

 

If they gave out an award on this forum for smug **** of the year you'd win it hands down.

Ninetenn Canteen would struggle to live with you.

[Deano6]

FFS - let the man watch the game. What's it got to do with you where his seat is?

[John B]

Do you think it's up for debate about their impact on the Club? I give up, the white flag is waving.

 

 

So what its history

 

Are you going to continually whinge about Lowe for the next twnty years?

[Saint Lindford]

I have not seen or heard any evidence that Lowe is involved in any consortium at present looking at SFC or any chance he is trying to come back.

 

The NDA's are holding firm and Mr Fry is saying nothing which might identify those at presently interested.

 

The guys from Guernsey are too up front and that stinks of tyre kickers.

 

There are at least two very interested parties.

 

Let us hope there is more news from the Administrator later this week.

 

All this speculation, despite being fun and keeping posters interest up, is just that, speculation and most very wide of the mark.

 

You might say, "how do you know?" and my retort "how do you know I do not"

 

Weston, one of the two I assume is the London one?

[eurosaint]

Christ, someone starts a thread saying that Lowe 'might' be in the director's box at Forest and total hysteria takes over ! It automatically leads to the fact that he will again take over the club ???

I am as anti RL as the next man but surely we should wait until something actually happens before getting angry and suicidal !

There are many people in jail for life having acted on suspicion rather than fact so my advice is to let it be for the moment, who knows you might just be pleasantly surprised !!

[krissyboy31]

I assume there were similar complaints when Crouch and McMenemy were sat in the Directors box at SMS?

 

I think it would be interesting if Lowe came back so all those who say "I'd go elsewhere" can go off and start their own club and leave the rest to support SFC - seeing as they all know better it would be a good test to see which club is where in 5 years time. Can't be difficult to do better than Lowe so nothing to lose - everyone's a winner?

 

I'm not particularly keen on Crouch and McMenemy or Askham and Richards being in the Directors Box at St Mary's but they have at least (to varying degrees) put money into the Save our Saints fund to help us keep afloat. Not forgetting that Crouch and McMenemy have at least paid their own way into the stadium by way of their Box and therefore, in no way are freeloading.

[Greenridge]

So what its history

 

Are you going to continually whinge about Lowe for the next twnty years?

 

I've not 'whinged' once as you so politely put it. You seemed to struggle with the thrust of the thread and the possible impact on the future of the Club and referenced the legalities of who can and cannot be in a directors box so completely missing the point. Let's leave it at that.

[OldNick]

Not seen either in the box since last year.

 

Not sure either Mac or Crouch relegated SFC twice et all.

I am of the school that no 1 person is responsible wholly for a relegation. LM's team were relegated in the 70's in his first season. At that time there were lots of rumours that the players like Paine tried a pwer struggle with LM and considering we had 8-0 defeats it could be seen that he lost the dressing room. I am glad the board at that time kept their nerve and all us knowledgeable fans who thought we knew best were proved wrong. The last relegation may well be a combined effort as well, until we see the excesses that have gone on in the last few seasons it is hard to be sure..

[John B]

I've not 'whinged' once as you so politely put it. You seemed to struggle with the thrust of the thread and the possible impact on the future of the Club and referenced the legalities of who can and cannot be in a directors box so completely missing the point. Let's leave it at that.

 

OK fair enough - just fed up with all the Hysteria about Lowe returning when there is no evidence that he is.

 

If he did that would be another matter

[jonah]

Wes, you're like a stuck record. So you hate Lowe, so you blame Lowe for everything, so it really really matters to you where some bloke sits at another club's ground. Do you see now why I'm suggesting it might be better for everyone involved if all you people who "cannot live with Lowe" start a new club like you (collective you, not singular you) have threatened to do so for 13 years? You should be agreeing with me - then you can run your own new club as you see fit and rub Lowe's nose in it as you pass him on your way up the league in a few years time. Like I said, it's a win-win situation for everyone isn't it?

[lenwilkins]

Wes, you're like a stuck record. So you hate Lowe, so you blame Lowe for everything, so it really really matters to you where some bloke sits at another club's ground. Do you see now why I'm suggesting it might be better for everyone involved if all you people who "cannot live with Lowe" start a new club like you (collective you, not singular you) have threatened to do so for 13 years? You should be agreeing with me - then you can run your own new club as you see fit and rub Lowe's nose in it as you pass him on your way up the league in a few years time. Like I said, it's a win-win situation for everyone isn't it?

 

Just curious jonah, do you think that there are any areas where you and Lowe are not in complete agreement?

[SaintRichmond]

It has been brought to my attention that LOWE and Richards will be in the board room at Forest on Sunday at the game!

 

How the hell can this happen after what has happened recently!

 

If this is true, then WTF is happening! If your going Sunday this is the time to let him know he isnt welcome back!

 

It is happening because Lowe is the Barnacle on the underbelly of SFC, and they are very difficult to remove

 

Right from the minute that Leisure Holdings went into Admion, I said that Lowe WOULD be back, and I'll go as far as to say that IMHO, this Scenario was designed by Lowe. to allow him to get the Club on the Cheap

 

That is all that Lowe ever is CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP

 

If you think his effect on gates in the CCC was bad enough, you aint seen nothing yet

 

He is oblivious to the thoughts of Football Fans, because, in spite of his protestations, he himself cares little about what we go to see .... the Eleven in Red & White

 

He is a continuing CURSE on our City

[SaintRichmond]

OK fair enough - just fed up with all the Hysteria about Lowe returning when there is no evidence that he is.If he did that would be another matter

 

 

Really ???? ...... think it through again ..... It will be too late once he IS back

[SaintRichmond]

Christ, someone starts a thread saying that Lowe 'might' be in the director's box at Forest and total hysteria takes over ! It automatically leads to the fact that he will again take over the club ???

I am as anti RL as the next man but surely we should wait until something actually happens before getting angry and suicidal !

There are many people in jail for life having acted on suspicion rather than fact so my advice is to let it be for the moment, who knows you might just be pleasantly surprised !!

 

 

I quite agree .... far too much hysteria ......... I mean, the same thing happened when someone dared to suggest that Hitler "might" be invading Austria ...... Far Far better to wait six years to see what actually develops

[John B]

Really ???? ...... think it through again ..... It will be too late once he IS back

 

Too late for what?

 

 

I think you and a lot of other posters are getting hysterical there is absolutely no evidence that he is going to return for some of the reasons you have mentioned. Unlike Hitler and his activities

[OldNick]

I quite agree .... far too much hysteria ......... I mean, the same thing happened when someone dared to suggest that Hitler "might" be invading Austria ...... Far Far better to wait six years to see what actually develops

It is so funny when people liken RL to Hitler. It is a football club FFS. 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, that we fools believe is important!! It really is madness if you analyse it.

[Saint Billy]

If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure.

I will go elsewhere.

Don't wont to - but I will have had enough.

 

Agreed. I cannot stomach his involvement anymore!

[Master Bates]

Nottingham Police have taken the unprecedented actions of telling Rupert Lowe to stay away from the County Ground. He supposedly had gained tickets for this Sunday's final match of the season. But Saints fans are in uproar that he will be present at the match. Police are concerned for public safety and crowd trouble.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A50663612

[OldNick]

If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure.

I will go elsewhere.

Don't wont to - but I will have had enough.

Duncan, unlikely i know, but what if he did bring good financial backing with him?

Should we not just wait and see before getting too knee jerk.

[OldNick]

Nottingham Police have taken the unprecedented actions of telling Rupert Lowe to stay away from the County Ground. He supposedly had gained tickets for this Sunday's final match of the season. But Saints fans are in uproar that he will be present at the match. Police are concerned for public safety and crowd trouble.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A50663612

Not much sympathy from other clubs fans

[Saint Billy]

Just curious jonah, do you think that there are any areas where you and Lowe are not in complete agreement?

 

The Holly Trinity,

 

Jonah, Nineteen Canteen and Lowe.

[SaintRichmond]

It is so funny when people liken RL to Hitler. It is a football club FFS. 22 men kicking a bag of wind about, that we fools believe is important!! It really is madness if you analyse it.

 

 

OK, until Lowe runs the Club as a Dictator ........ with scant regard to FOOTBALLERS, and what we Supporters go to St Mary's for

[alpine_saint]

Duncan, unlikely i know, but what if he did bring good financial backing with him?

Should we not just wait and see before getting too knee jerk.

 

So why didnt he f**king well do it before now ?

 

Why have we got another potential cluster-f**k of a season in front of us because :

 

1. We went into admin 6 days too late

 

2. He kept his powder dry on potential investment funds and f**k the consequences to the club

 

Do we want such a egotistical self-obsessed butt-munch in charge of club ?

[Charlie Wayman]

Probably guests of his old boy network pals at Forest. Lowe & Richards have zero standing vis-a-vis Southampton FC, which belongs now to the creditors interests managed by the Administrator.

[jonah]

Just curious jonah, do you think that there are any areas where you and Lowe are not in complete agreement?

 

I'm curious where you think I've made any comment about agreeing with Lowe anywhere in this thread? All I've said is that it sounds like an ideal opportunity for those who hate Lowe more than they love SFC to go and set up their own club and show him how it should be done. Do you think that's a good solution for everyone?

[John B]

I'm curious where you think I've made any comment about agreeing with Lowe anywhere in this thread? All I've said is that it sounds like an ideal opportunity for those who hate Lowe more than they love SFC to go and set up their own club and show him how it should be done. Do you think that's a good solution for everyone?

 

No I dont we appear to becoming a rabble which may in the end stop somebody investing in the Club.

 

 

So far the fans dont seem to have helped the club in their actions

[saintsdan]

Posted this on the SSN thread but probably more relevant here.

 

This may be a very daft question but...

 

Mark Fry has said that the seriuosly interested parties (is it 2, 3 or 4?) are carrying out due diligence ahead of a potential bid. Given that Rupert Lowe was chairman up until a month ago, would his knowledge of the club's financial position mean that it would be unnecessary for he or a consortium involving him to carry out due diligence?

 

If so it would suggest that it is unlikely any of the parties carrying out due diligence involve Rupert Lowe.