Holbury Saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Nineteen Canteen is Andrew Cowen - FACT An employee at the club told me this a couple of months back and I am certain it's the truth. Come clean Cowen and then **** off for good. It's your endless backing of that prikc Lowe that has wrecked this club. If you'd stood up to him earlier we wouldn't be in this mess. I know Cowen will deny this but it's TRUE. You've only got to read through some of his posts to see the Cowenisms.
SFC Forever Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 The thing that gets to me about Lowe is his sheer stupidity. The man sends countless numbers of his mimions out and about waving his PR machines propaganda. He would have been a lot better served by simply openning up and telling us it how it was. Truth may hurt but at the end of the day subterfuge hurts a hell of a lot more. His stupidity is what stopped a lot of people watching the Saints. Not just his arrogance and ignorance. His mind numbing stupidity. Rant over. I want to buy my ST's for next season and his spectre still hangs over us. When are we going to be allowed to forget them all?
Holbury Saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 We won't be rid of him until he's dead unfortunately and knowing our luck he'll outlive the lot of us:mad:
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Nineteen Canteen is Andrew Cowen - FACT An employee at the club told me this a couple of months back and I am certain it's the truth. Come clean Cowen and then **** off for good. It's your endless backing of that prikc Lowe that has wrecked this club. If you'd stood up to him earlier we wouldn't be in this mess. I know Cowen will deny this but it's TRUE. You've only got to read through some of his posts to see the Cowenisms. I was told NC was someone else By the way I thought Lowe had gone is that not true?
benjii Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I was told NC was someone else By the way I thought Lowe had gone is that not true? I presume some numpty told you it was Lord Marland?
Amesbury Saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 If I had crashed a train (twice) I wouldn't be hanging around the crematorium waving at the mourners. lol
pilsburydoughboy Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 The Lunatic Fringe according to McMoneyme is actually the Loyal Fringe. Laughable really that he thinks those fans most likely to have stayed away in protest of Lowe are classed as loyal even though they helped push the club over the edge. Shows how absurdly out of touch LM really is and as for Crouch's latest incredulous outburst IMO it is along the lines of his post administration cash contibutions - a desperate attempt at some kind of absolution with the fans. Crouch is for some reason desperate to remain popular with the fanbase and his investments into the club from his share purchases up until the present may have been well intended but equally astoundingly poor investments/decisions and total folly IMO. It seems to me that Crouch's attempts to remove Lowe have been as destructive and as futile as his attempts to save the club and that is just a personal opinion and observation based purely on being an un-connected fan in the stand. People accuse Lowe of having some mental disorder but it seems with Crouch that he maybe is the epitome of the saying a fool and his money is easily parted. What makes it worse is the fact he and his band of merry men carried round the buckets at the Burnley game asking for contributions. I wonder how many of those who gave did so because they felt intimidated to do so having a bucket waved under your face surrounded by peer pressure? Crouch and McMoneyme are as big a part of the problem as Lowe and the stay away fans and IMO by trying to hang Lowe out to dry they are all simply trying to deflect the finger of accusation being pointed in their direction. Jesus H Christ you really are The Ruddy Faced **** from Gloucestershire. **** Off Rupert you truley are an utter ****.
alpine_saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I have become convinced that NC is someone close to, or is in the employ of, Rupert Lwe.
pilsburydoughboy Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I have become convinced that NC is someone close to, or is in the employ of, Rupert Lwe. I am convinced it is the devils spawn himself
Tamesaint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 The Lunatic Fringe according to McMoneyme is actually the Loyal Fringe. Laughable really that he thinks those fans most likely to have stayed away in protest of Lowe are classed as loyal even though they helped push the club over the edge. Shows how absurdly out of touch LM really is and as for Crouch's latest incredulous outburst IMO it is along the lines of his post administration cash contibutions - a desperate attempt at some kind of absolution with the fans. Crouch is for some reason desperate to remain popular with the fanbase and his investments into the club from his share purchases up until the present may have been well intended but equally astoundingly poor investments/decisions and total folly IMO. It seems to me that Crouch's attempts to remove Lowe have been as destructive and as futile as his attempts to save the club and that is just a personal opinion and observation based purely on being an un-connected fan in the stand. People accuse Lowe of having some mental disorder but it seems with Crouch that he maybe is the epitome of the saying a fool and his money is easily parted. What makes it worse is the fact he and his band of merry men carried round the buckets at the Burnley game asking for contributions. I wonder how many of those who gave did so because they felt intimidated to do so having a bucket waved under your face surrounded by peer pressure? Crouch and McMoneyme are as big a part of the problem as Lowe and the stay away fans and IMO by trying to hang Lowe out to dry they are all simply trying to deflect the finger of accusation being pointed in their direction. PMSL You are getting really funny now 19. Don't you get infraction points for referring to LM as Mcmoneyme. Mind you it doesn't matter does it 19?? If you get banned as 19 Canteen you can always return as Sundance Beast can't you??
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I have become convinced that NC is someone close to, or is in the employ of, Rupert Lwe. Or he may just be winding you up
Mole Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I am convinced it is the devils spawn himself Could be Ruperts son, Tarquin.
Tamesaint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Could be Ruperts son, Tarquin. I thought his son was called Alphonse. and his daughter Coriander
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Nineteen Canteen is Andrew Cowen - FACT An employee at the club told me this a couple of months back and I am certain it's the truth. Come clean Cowen and then **** off for good. It's your endless backing of that prikc Lowe that has wrecked this club. If you'd stood up to him earlier we wouldn't be in this mess. I know Cowen will deny this but it's TRUE. You've only got to read through some of his posts to see the Cowenisms. Idiot
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I have become convinced that NC is someone close to, or is in the employ of, Rupert Lwe. Alpine you have a short memory.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 PMSL You are getting really funny now 19. Don't you get infraction points for referring to LM as Mcmoneyme. Mind you it doesn't matter does it 19?? If you get banned as 19 Canteen you can always return as Sundance Beast can't you?? To be honest Tame I don't know but if this rule applies to ex-employees as it was suggested then there must be an enormous amount of infractions being dished out in defence of Lowe. Works both ways doesn't as we can't start defining ex-employees as those we like, all a bit too subjective. Given the prevailing atmosphere on here at the moment I suspect that rule has been suspended to closely monitor the legality of some comments.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I presume some numpty told you it was Lord Marland? That'll be Tamesaint
pilsburydoughboy Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Alpine you have a short memory. Dear Rupert In case you are suffering from memory loss You are a **** I hate you You are the lowest of the lowe Your radio station was crap Your catering was not the best in the league And just look what you did to my club oh and in case you forgot **** off
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Dear Rupert In case you are suffering from memory loss You are a **** I hate you You are the lowest of the lowe Your radio station was crap Your catering was not the best in the league And just look what you did to my club oh and in case you forgot **** off Very eloquent, misguided and more importantly, misdirected. Is there such a thing as keyboard rage? The lowest of the lowe, very good, nice play on words.
Holbury Saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Give up Cowan just slip away and dont come back. You WERE Sundance and you ARE Cowen. Youve been rumbled now just go
um pahars Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 if you get banned as 19 canteen you can always return as sundance beast can't you?? No one does PM's quite like Sundance/Nineteen;)
Weston Saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Nineteen Canteen is Andrew Cowen - FACT An employee at the club told me this a couple of months back and I am certain it's the truth. Come clean Cowen and then **** off for good. It's your endless backing of that prikc Lowe that has wrecked this club. If you'd stood up to him earlier we wouldn't be in this mess. I know Cowen will deny this but it's TRUE. You've only got to read through some of his posts to see the Cowenisms.What a load of rubbish. How do I know? Well Andrew Cowan was dining at a time that 19C was posting on here and I can assure you he did not have his laptop with him. I also know 19C so can be firm on this.
hypochondriac Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 What a load of rubbish. How do I know? Well Andrew Cowan was dining at a time that 19C was posting on here and I can assure you he did not have his laptop with him. I also know 19C so can be firm on this. As a sensible poster Weston I am curious to know why you defend 19C so vehemently sometimes on here. I just don't get it. He doesn't half spout some bizarre (and often vitriolic) tosh yet you're always so quick to jump in and defend him. Fair enough when he posts something worth reading but the majority of the time it's just nonsense.
LostBoys Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Surely Sumdunce and 19C cannot be Andrew Cowan. I met him at a Charity function (I could not change table at that late stage) and I was reasonably impressed by him although he mentioned Rupes as if he was still his fag from public school. He was intelligent and knowledgeable something you can never accuse Sumdunce and 19C of. They are all nearly consigned to the dustbin of history - just a few more days.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 As a sensible poster Weston I am curious to know why you defend 19C so vehemently sometimes on here. I just don't get it. He doesn't half spout some bizarre (and often vitriolic) tosh yet you're always so quick to jump in and defend him. Fair enough when he posts something worth reading but the majority of the time it's just nonsense. Hypo I would like to contibute to your question if I may. My personal opinion of Weston is that he is willing to appreciate there are two sides to any argument and by taking on board comments from perhaps the other side of the fence from which he is standing helps him to be that more sensible and rounded poster you refer to. If I am vitriolic its almost always in response to abuse from others and I think its important some of us at least play the role of devils advocate otherwise the same familiar traps will be there for us to fall into in the future. Many fans of this club have had one sole objective without any consideration to the future once the objective was achieved. Its now been IMO royally screwed up twice in 3 years and we can only hope it's not 3rd time unlucky as we get blindsided whilst many of you enjoy the dance on the grave of Lowe's tenure. Weston and I don't agree on much but I personally respect his views and appreciate the fact he has at least listened to mine and hopefully given them consideration no matter how badly judged you consider them to be. Unfortunately, I am not that blessed with great writing skills and wish I could describe my opinion and concerns better than I do but I don't post just to get plaudits and be one of the gang so I guess it doesn't matter. (Leave that to more eminient fans than myself) One thing Weston and I agreed upon earlier in the year was that administration would be a disaster for the club made worse by the state of the economy and the credit crunch. The fact we are relying on handouts and kids chucking their pennies in buckets does not feel me with pride or passion but reserved and poignant that many of us were blinded by alledged popular thinking and decided to commit an act that bordered corporate euthanasia. Of course Mr McMenemy calls them the loyal fringe and that maybe as ridiculous as calling them the lunatic fringe but almost certainly they were stupidly naive and in some case incredibly self-important not to appreciate the consequences of their actions. We were referred to earlier as a big club. Even with a hated chairman big club's can pull in an average crowd well over 17,000. We are a club that is as delusional about its status as many of its fans. 125 years next year and how many in the top flight? Somewhere between 35-40? Jonah, Frank's Cousin and a few others can talk about this stuff much better than me but I don't so much defend Lowe but support the requirement for a much needed sense of perspective and beware of the enemy within.
Amesbury Saint Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 As a sensible poster Weston I am curious to know why you defend 19C so vehemently sometimes on here. I just don't get it. He doesn't half spout some bizarre (and often vitriolic) tosh yet you're always so quick to jump in and defend him. Fair enough when he posts something worth reading but the majority of the time it's just nonsense. I disagree with much that 19C says. His love for Lowe is misguided. But it would be a boring place if we all thought the same. Regarding tosh few could escape that criticism here!
alehouseboys Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 ...We were referred to earlier as a big club. Even with a hated chairman big club's can pull in an average crowd well over 17,000. We are a club that is as delusional about its status as many of its fans. 125 years next year and how many in the top flight? Somewhere between 35-40?... ...well your hero said we were "bigger than Tottenham (North London Yobbos)..." does that mean he's really just full os shiiiiii..............................? :shock:
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 (edited) As a sensible poster Weston I am curious to know why you defend 19C so vehemently sometimes on here. I just don't get it. He doesn't half spout some bizarre (and often vitriolic) tosh yet you're always so quick to jump in and defend him. Fair enough when he posts something worth reading but the majority of the time it's just nonsense. I would suggest that 19NC is one of the more sensible posters on here he usually seems to post realistic stuff not hysterical tirades against Lowe. Of course you dont have to agree with him but some do. It is quite obvious to many people that Lowe is not totally to blame for our current situation at least he had the courage to try to help. It did not work but I dont think anybody could have saved as from administration in the current financial conditions after SFC bought in Saga Euell and John for huge wages in the misguided belief that if the club was successful the club would be bought. The whole strategy fron 2006 when Lowe left appeared to be that someone was going to invest heavily in the club and every thing would be OK It is not like that other ex Premiership clubs are not in a similar position But nobody will ever know and having board members from hell has not helped Edited 2 May, 2009 by John B
alehouseboys Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 I would suggest that 19NC is one of the more sensible posters on here he seems to post realistic stuff not hysterical tirades against Lowe. You're right...he much preferred to vent his 'hysterical tirades' against, and I quote, "the cancer" that is Crouch/McMenemy/the 'real' fans/etc. Very sensible, damn nice bloke.
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 You're right...he much preferred to vent his 'hysterical tirades' against, and I quote, "the cancer" that is Crouch/McMenemy/the 'real' fans/etc. Very sensible, damn nice bloke. Not every one is perfect I dont remember that one I apologise because like you I think that type of post is not very nice So you dont like the hysterical tirades on here either
Tamesaint Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 If I am vitriolic its almost always in response to abuse from others . Oh yes?? When did I or the other recipients of your sick PM send you an abusive PM?? Sometimes the sensible Sundance / Canteen seems to forget what the nutty Sundance / Canteen has been up to.
Saint_John Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 The Dark Lord may well have connections in the area. If you go back to the Libel case on Day 1 page 153 it says :- 15 Q. Let me take you then, Mr. Lowe, to 15th June. Do you remember 16 that day? 17 A. Yes. For my sins I used to own a small factory in Nottingham 18 and I was walking around it with Mr. Cowen, and I got a call 19 from Dave to say -- I think he actually said he had been 20 interviewed .... I don't know whether he still has that factory. We all know he has no friends in Southampton but it is possible he may have ONE friend in the Nottingham area. John p.s. IMO his sins were riding into Southampton on that motor bike in 1997 not owning a factory.
um pahars Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 I would suggest that 19NC is one of the more sensible posters You lost me at the first sentence;) Sensible posters don't get banned by the Admins on numerous occasions (only to reappear under different names) and they certainly don't get a number of their posts deleted/amended by the Admins for spouting fallacies, inaccuraces and libellous comments. I can only assume you have a rather different notion on what is sensible than many others.
Tamesaint Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 I would suggest that 19NC is one of the more sensible posters on here !!!!
um pahars Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Oh yes?? When did I or the other recipients of your sick PM send you an abusive PM?? Sometimes the sensible Sundance / Canteen seems to forget what the nutty Sundance / Canteen has been up to. I mistakenly deleted those belters of PM's we all got:D:D Hardly sensible;) You're quite right, in that I have said before that his various guises spout so much rubbsh, he finds it difficult to continue with the act LOL. PS Could you forward me your copy of the PM'ss if you still have it (only those that were originally sent to me as well mind).
Mole Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Jonah, Frank's Cousin and a few others can talk about this stuff much better than me.
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 I mistakenly deleted those belters of PM's we all got:D:D Hardly sensible;) You're quite right, in that I have said before that his various guises spout so much rubbsh, he finds it difficult to continue with the act LOL. PS Could you forward me your copy of the PM'ss if you still have it (only those that were originally sent to me as well mind). I'd like to see the PM - makes for a more rounded view of a person that at the mo' I can't quite get my head round.
John B Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 (edited) You lost me at the first sentence;) Sensible posters don't get banned by the Admins on numerous occasions (only to reappear under different names) and they certainly don't get a number of their posts deleted/amended by the Admins for spouting fallacies, inaccuraces and libellous comments. I can only assume you have a rather different notion on what is sensible than many others. Unlike you I do not know everything regarding NC19 But the contents of most of his postings are sensible We were referred to earlier as a big club. Even with a hated chairman big club's can pull in an average crowd well over 17,000. We are a club that is as delusional about its status as many of its fans. 125 years next year and how many in the top flight? Somewhere between 35-40? Jonah, Frank's Cousin and a few others can talk about this stuff much better than me but I don't so much defend Lowe but support the requirement for a much needed sense of perspective and beware of the enemy within. Although the enemy within comment does not seem very sensible I agree Edited 2 May, 2009 by John B
hamster Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 ....It's very sad and pathetic, but it's his swansong .... If only Stanley, if only....Mute swans are not actually mute though, they honk, snort, grunt, hiss and make shrill noises. Oh...
CB Fry Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Unlike you I do not know everything regarding NC19 But the contents of most of his postings are sensible We were referred to earlier as a big club. Even with a hated chairman big club's can pull in an average crowd well over 17,000. We are a club that is as delusional about its status as many of its fans. 125 years next year and how many in the top flight? Somewhere between 35-40? What kind of garbage is that? Most of those years in the top flight we actually in people's living memory which does count for something. Or are you saying that people would instantly describe, say, Blackpool as so much bigger than saints because of their success pre and post war Saints have a natural level, it is between the bottom half of the Premier League and the top half of CCC. When we finished eighth in the Prem we were over our natural level. This and next season we will be below it. When we finished 12th in the CCC, or 17th in the Prem, we were at our natural level. Or are you seriously suggesting the rest of football are saying "oh yes, Southampton are now just about right. I always thought of them as a third tier team. I mean, where where they in 1936?"
lenwilkins Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 I have become convinced that NC is someone close to, or is in the employ of, Rupert Lwe. The truth is that he's a nobody and a none to bright numpty who enjoys leading people to believe that he's a somebody. I guess that's what comes of living alone in a squalid attic bedsit for too many years.
hypochondriac Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Oh yes?? When did I or the other recipients of your sick PM send you an abusive PM?? Sometimes the sensible Sundance / Canteen seems to forget what the nutty Sundance / Canteen has been up to. Which is of course my point. No one is saying that people who I disagree with should stop posting. I regularly enjoy reading contributions from the likes of nickh and franks cousin (when I can stay awake) . It's the provocative language (mcmoneymee, calling people cancers and abusive pms to name but a few). It just confuses me because by defending 19c weston is also defending the bad side of his behaviour and that doesn't seem like something weston would do
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 you really are a massive sycophant! Ill in the Head speaks. Lol
LostBoys Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 I never read the rubbish that Sumdunce and 19C post because I have him/them whatever on ignore. Please don't quote them as then I have to read it. Just a few more days and they will be gone forever.
um pahars Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Which is of course my point. No one is saying that people who I disagree with should stop posting. I regularly enjoy reading contributions from the likes of nickh and franks cousin (when I can stay awake) . Absolutely. Nickh, NickG, JohnB and many others regularly post stuff up here that I vehemently disagree with, but I enjoy reading differing views and takes on things. It would indeed be dull if we all thought the same way and very often those with opposing, or slightly different viewpoints, make interesting and valid points. It's the provocative language (mcmoneymee, calling people cancers and abusive pms to name but a few). And that is exactly the difference. The way that this regurgitated poster trolls, antagonises, abuses, slurs and generally conducts himself ensures he is clearly seen for what he is. Someone just forwarded me his old PM that he sent around and it certainly backs up the fact he is merely trolling for attention;) It just confuses me because by defending 19c weston is also defending the bad side of his behaviour and that doesn't seem like something weston would do 19C, just like his previous guises, does a very good job of grooming and befriending one or two posters in order to achieve some sort of credibility on here. Weston is merely the latest to fall for this ruse, because as you say, nothing I have ever heard from or seen from Weston in the past would suggest he has nything whatsoever in common with this troll.
Fan The Flames Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Hypo I would like to contibute to your question if I may. My personal opinion of Weston is that he is willing to appreciate there are two sides to any argument and by taking on board comments from perhaps the other side of the fence from which he is standing helps him to be that more sensible and rounded poster you refer to. Maybe you should practise what you preach
Fan The Flames Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Oh yes?? When did I or the other recipients of your sick PM send you an abusive PM?? Sometimes the sensible Sundance / Canteen seems to forget what the nutty Sundance / Canteen has been up to. I consider myself a failure not to have recieved one of his pm's. If there's a blacklist I want to be on it.
eelpie Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 People accuse Lowe of having some mental disorder but it seems with Crouch that he maybe is the epitome of the saying a fool and his money is easily parted. What makes it worse is the fact he and his band of merry men carried round the buckets at the Burnley game asking for contributions. I wonder how many of those who gave did so because they felt intimidated to do so having a bucket waved under your face surrounded by peer pressure? Have you contributed at all in any way to saving Saints?
Daren W Posted 2 May, 2009 Posted 2 May, 2009 Have you contributed at all in any way to saving Saints? Well if hot air and stupidity could help Saints, he'd make us Champions of Europe...
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