Window Cleaner Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 How has this been bought to your attention out of interest ? And why does it matter, club invites visiting past chairrmen to it's boardroom shocker.It's a mark of respect I presume,only we don't rate them, Forest must love them, especially if they stay up because we went down eh.
John B Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted this on the SSN thread but probably more relevant here. This may be a very daft question but... Mark Fry has said that the seriuosly interested parties (is it 2, 3 or 4?) are carrying out due diligence ahead of a potential bid. Given that Rupert Lowe was chairman up until a month ago, would his knowledge of the club's financial position mean that it would be unnecessary for he or a consortium involving him to carry out due diligence? If so it would suggest that it is unlikely any of the parties carrying out due diligence involve Rupert Lowe. I thought Fry said Lowe was not involved
Window Cleaner Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I thought Fry said Lowe was not involved He can say it 100001 times but some just won't believe it anyway.
krissyboy31 Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I thought Fry said Lowe was not involved I think that was when there was 3 in due diligence. Doesn't rule out the Guernsey 2 though!
John B Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I think that was when there was 3 in due diligence. Doesn't rule out the Guernsey 2 though! No but does not them in either
SaintRobbie Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Banners required for Saturday. dUCK OFF LOWE needs to make an appearance ... just in case
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Sorry I do not understand your logic. It is possible for anybody to be invited in to the Directors Box at any ground. Somebody I used to work with was a Vice President at Chelsea and used to invite people when thier team played at Stamford Bridge. Unfortunately he passed away sometime ago Matthew Harding?
lenwilkins Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I'm curious where you think I've made any comment about agreeing with Lowe anywhere in this thread? All I've said is that it sounds like an ideal opportunity for those who hate Lowe more than they love SFC to go and set up their own club and show him how it should be done. Do you think that's a good solution for everyone? Fortunately Mark, my memory extends beyond a single thread on here. I'm also an avid reader of your Lowe fan mail on Saintslist, where I recall other people have commented on your seemingly undying allegiance to the man who engineered two relegations and administration for us. To answer your question, no I don't agree. Hating Lowe and loving Saints go hand in hand as far as I am concerned. Far better that he goes away and uses his 'expertise' to fukc up another club.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 No not him That's right, Harding was part owner.
Gordon Mockles Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I have not seen or heard any evidence that Lowe is involved in any consortium at present looking at SFC or any chance he is trying to come back. The NDA's are holding firm and Mr Fry is saying nothing which might identify those at presently interested. The guys from Guernsey are too up front and that stinks of tyre kickers. There are at least two very interested parties. Let us hope there is more news from the Administrator later this week. All this speculation, despite being fun and keeping posters interest up, is just that, speculation and most very wide of the mark. You might say, "how do you know?" and my retort "how do you know I do not" I agree Weston. Also, if Lowe were to actually go to the Forest game, it may be just to hob-nob and, as a side issue, gain some perverse thrill knowing it may unsettle/upset the fans that have been so nasty and mean to him. Retribution may certainly fit his character. Again, that's purely supposition on a rumour with no basis whatsoever.
jonah Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Fortunately Mark, my memory extends beyond a single thread on here. Ah I see, so you're not joining in this thread, just changing the subject to start a different one? I'm also an avid reader of your Lowe fan mail on Saintslist, where I recall other people have commented on your seemingly undying allegiance to the man who engineered two relegations and administration for us. As an avid reader I'm sure you will remember my post on saintslist saying Lowe should step down as chairman when we were relegated in 2005 then? Or perhaps you're remembering the posts where I agreed that Wigley was the worst thing he'd done? Meanwhile, I guess you missed the posts where I warned about Wilde and his disregard for the financial future of the club. Or the ones in which I countered the claims that "any idiot could run as CEO and do better than Lowe"? Or perhaps you missed the posts last April where I stated very clearly that the current board were running the club negligently and had massively overspent by running up an unsustainable wage bill? Or the posts at the beginning of the season where I said the only thing that mattered this season was trying to avoid administration... anything else would be a bonus. Presumably you thought paying back £2.5m of debt would be an easy task after increasing it by £6.5m in the previous 2 years? A £3.75m swing in spending at the flick of a switch presumably? I won't defend a person when I've never even met that person - but I will defend actions that are logical and correct for the club. Usually they are the difficult decisions like making cuts, as opposed to fan-friendly rhetoric like paying for statues or writing manifestos which mis-spell the name of our club. Meanwhile, there's nothing I can do if you and others prefer to believe in the bogey man in order to explain the mistakes that have been made... if that's the only way you can make sense of what's happened then there's not much hope for identifying problems in the future is there? To answer your question, no I don't agree. Hating Lowe and loving Saints go hand in hand as far as I am concerned. I think that is very sad indeed, I can't imagine how people manage to get such pent-up anger and hatred over a chairman of a PLC who wasn't even here during the 2 years we massively overspent and left our future in the hands of a faceless Barclays manager. Perhaps you should try some sort of anger management course or else pop down the local children's hospital to get a bit more perspective on life?
Gordon Mockles Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I assume there were similar complaints when Crouch and McMenemy were sat in the Directors box at SMS? I think it would be interesting if Lowe came back so all those who say "I'd go elsewhere" can go off and start their own club and leave the rest to support SFC - seeing as they all know better it would be a good test to see which club is where in 5 years time. Can't be difficult to do better than Lowe so nothing to lose - everyone's a winner? Quell Jonah unplugging himself from Lowe so he's able to talk! Weird attitude of a supposed Saints fan to continually defend the culprit for running our club into oblivion...or do you still blame Crouch for his brief few steps into the middle of Lowe and Wilde's quagmire? You people that support and defend Lowe ought to hang your heads in shame. What a ridiculous viewpoint and bizarre attitude. Would you blame an inept copper for murder just because he carelessly sumbled onto a murder scene and messed up some evidence? Eventhough overwhelming evidence clearly pointed to a renown serial killer undeniably linked to this massacre (season), notorious for slaughtering his victims (clubs) & removing their heads (fanbase)? Random but...viable! So, your support SFC and Lowe. Glutton springs to mind. Under that logic, you'd proabably enjoy a nice cruise to Cowes with Captain Edward John Smith (if he were alive)...you could have sailed a couple of weeks back, for irony! :smt018
Scudamore Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Quell Jonah unplugging himself from Lowe so he's able to talk! Weird attitude of a supposed Saints fan to continually defend the culprit for running our club into oblivion...or do you still blame Crouch for his brief few steps into the middle of Lowe and Wilde's quagmire? You people that support and defend Lowe ought to hang your heads in shame. What a ridiculous viewpoint and bizarre attitude. Would you blame an inept copper for murder just because he carelessly sumbled onto a murder scene and messed up some evidence? Eventhough overwhelming evidence clearly pointed to a renown serial killer undeniably linked to this massacre (season), notorious for slaughtering his victims (clubs) & removing their heads (fanbase)? Random but...viable! So, your support SFC and Lowe. Glutton springs to mind. Under that logic, you'd proabably enjoy a nice cruise to Cowes with Captain Edward John Smith (if he were alive)...you could have sailed a couple of weeks back, for irony! :smt018
eurosaint Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I quite agree .... far too much hysteria ......... I mean, the same thing happened when someone dared to suggest that Hitler "might" be invading Austria ...... Far Far better to wait six years to see what actually develops Richmond, You have just proved my point regarding hysteria ! There is absolutely nothing FACTUAL which indicates that RL is making a comeback ! Should things pan out and he is not involved then you will have wasted a great deal of stress filled energy on sweet feck all ! Why can't you just bide your time and react when something actually happens? Ps. When Rupert invades Poland I'll let you know !!
Wes Tender Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Wes, you're like a stuck record. So you hate Lowe, so you blame Lowe for everything, so it really really matters to you where some bloke sits at another club's ground. Do you see now why I'm suggesting it might be better for everyone involved if all you people who "cannot live with Lowe" start a new club like you (collective you, not singular you) have threatened to do so for 13 years? You should be agreeing with me - then you can run your own new club as you see fit and rub Lowe's nose in it as you pass him on your way up the league in a few years time. Like I said, it's a win-win situation for everyone isn't it? Yes, Jonah, you've got the message; I completely and utterly detest and despise the arrogant tosser who has come in on the coat tails of the morally bankrupt reverse takeover and ruined our club. Now that the incompetant imbecile has gone and the charlatans that supported him have no shareholdings to secure their power-base, it is not surprising that I will be nervous if he reappears anywhere in a privileged capacity at a match featuring our team, associating himself with people who might bring him back in any position of power in the future. But why should we who share similar feelings towards him and those of his ilk form our own club? Why can't he and his cronies start their own club from scratch, or go and buy into another club and mess up their prospects? Or better still, why can't he take the advice of his wife and just bugger off out of football altogether, never to be seen or heard of again?
Professor Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Was going to rattle the cage again - it can be a lot of fun, but others are doing it very well......
Saints Warrior Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 swing Lowe bt 2100 saints fans during the 90, lets have it!
monosaint Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 I don't think people realise that if we fold we'll be lucky to be in Hampshire League Division 10 as AFC Southampton. Anything is better than that. First game of the season, Boys Brigade West.
Wes Tender Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 Was going to rattle the cage again - it can be a lot of fun, but others are doing it very well...... You're in a cage, prof? Who put you in there?
Gordon Mockles Posted 30 April, 2009 Posted 30 April, 2009 You're in a cage, prof? Who put you in there? He's always been in there! He can't leave. Something to do with the chain attached to the buckle of his zip faced mask!! ;0)
Master Bates Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4334606.The_cheek_of_Rupert_/
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4334606.The_cheek_of_Rupert_/ Lol at the over-reactors.
Daren W Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Yes, Jonah, you've got the message; I completely and utterly detest and despise the arrogant tosser who has come in on the coat tails of the morally bankrupt reverse takeover and ruined our club. Now that the incompetant imbecile has gone and the charlatans that supported him have no shareholdings to secure their power-base, it is not surprising that I will be nervous if he reappears anywhere in a privileged capacity at a match featuring our team, associating himself with people who might bring him back in any position of power in the future. But why should we who share similar feelings towards him and those of his ilk form our own club? Why can't he and his cronies start their own club from scratch, or go and buy into another club and mess up their prospects? Or better still, why can't he take the advice of his wife and just bugger off out of football altogether, never to be seen or heard of again? What I find amusing Wes is the smarmy way people are droming on and on here about how paranoid some posters are on here and how they're looking for Lowe everywhere in the shadows. These would be the same same posters who buried their heads in the sand when this club was being ruined by Lowe and Wilde and believed everything was alright, whilst mocking the anti Lowe posters as being paranoid. As per usual, people are looking at the symptoms rather than the cause, the fact that Lowe and Wilde have instilled this paranoia with their gross mismangement of the club. Rather than look at the personalities that have caused this situation they constantly look at the people who react rather than those who provoke the reaction. The sad fact is that i wouldn't be at all surprised if Lowe did try and find a back door route back to this club. If he did, he'd kill the club stone dead as I know of quite a few die hard season ticket holders who have said if Lowe did come back, in any shape, then they'd not renew... and coming from them that's a very serious statement.
JustMike Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4334606.The_cheek_of_Rupert_/ haha do you think he will be sat there saying "myyy prescioussss" as the saints come out
NickG Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 wish we saw none of them, particularly Lowe in press or on here in relation to saints, time to move on. Why Crouch, who has been part of this era feels the need to comment in outrage in echo again - think he still thinks he speaks for us!
explorer saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 The comments page under this echo link made me smile from a guy who has just seen Branson at Soton airport with a guy who looked likes Fry, would be nice if true!
JustMike Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 The comments page under this echo link made me smile from a guy who has just seen Branson at Soton airport with a guy who looked likes Fry, would be nice if true! haha yes but his title says, "...just returned from Mexico city" so he is clearly ill :-)
Mr Nice Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Why Crouch, who has been part of this era feels the need to comment in outrage in echo again - think he still thinks he speaks for us! Yes he speaks for all of us
alpine_saint Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Has anyone considered that Lowe is going as a big demonstration of schadenfreude, that he is actually getting a kick out of plight and will savour every moment ? He's going for one of 3 reasons, imo : 1. Schadenfreude 2. He IS involved with a bid, despite denials (none forthcoming from him, I note) 3. Its a public demonstration of mutal support in the light of the WH Ireland problems, since the Echo indicates he has been invited by Forest director Nigel Doughty who I believe is one of the 4 WHI directors (another being Lowe) that have caused a crisis by throwing out two fellow directors who were about to vote against them in a vote of no confidence.
CB Fry Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I'm not sure I buy into Crouch screaming about Lowe's "cheek" when the multi millionaire Leon Crouch has been walking round St Mary's with a bucket asking for donations from average wage earners to fund a business he is a significant shareholder in. And that bucket money going to pay the wages of men on five grand a week. That's cheek and absolutely obscene in my book. But should Lowe be at Forest? Of course not and this just goes to show what an odious, snivelling little git he is. He'll get a mouthful from me and 2,000 others on Sunday.
exit2 Posted 1 May, 2009 Author Posted 1 May, 2009 I'm not sure I buy into Crouch screaming about Lowe's "cheek" when the multi millionaire Leon Crouch has been walking round St Mary's with a bucket asking for donations from average wage earners to fund a business he is a significant shareholder in. And that bucket money going to pay the wages of men on five grand a week.. Sorry I dont agree with that. We forget LC has bank rolled the club for a few weeks, and without the buckets etc we wouldnt have a club to watch at Forest to be fair But should Lowe be at Forest? Of course not and this just goes to show what an odious, snivelling little git he is. He'll get a mouthful from me and 2,000 others on Sunday. Yep I agree totally Hence why I posted the original thread when I heard about it
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Yes he speaks for all of us Well Mr Crouch does not speak for me and his comment shows him to be small minded . Surely it is a time to forget the past but that attention seeking person cannot keep his mouth shut All the former board members who led us to this situation are all culpable and they should all shut up
Mole Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 (extract from the echo article) "I cannot believe the cheek of the man,” he [Leon Coruch] said when told by the Echo that Lowe was planning to watch Saints’ final game of the season. “Has he got utter contempt for the fans? How dare he turn up at the game after all he’s done to the club.” See link for the full article: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4334606.The_cheek_of_Rupert_/ Well said Leon, Lowe is just rubbing our noses in it. I'm sure he'll get a kick out of it.
Wes Tender Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Well Mr Crouch does not speak for me and his comment shows him to be small minded . Surely it is a time to forget the past but that attention seeking person cannot keep his mouth shut All the former board members who led us to this situation are all culpable and they should all shut up OK, Crouch's anger about Lowe and Richards invitation to watch our last match in this division isn't shared by you, unsurprisingly. I can name another half dozen others who I just know would agree with you. On the other hand, I'm equally sure that the vast majority of fans would share Crouch's indignation and respect that he has a higher media profile than them and quietly thank him for articulating their thoughts. In the spirit of your penultimate paragraph, you obviously don't see any irony in another attention seeking individual parading himself in front of our away fans when as you say it is best that we try and forget the past and move on.
eelpie Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Of course the Directors of Noots Forest are going to invite Rupert Lowe, the man who has probably done more to secure their CCC status than anyone. They will probably erect a statue to him.
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 OK, Crouch's anger about Lowe and Richards invitation to watch our last match in this division isn't shared by you, unsurprisingly. I can name another half dozen others who I just know would agree with you. On the other hand, I'm equally sure that the vast majority of fans would share Crouch's indignation and respect that he has a higher media profile than them and quietly thank him for articulating their thoughts. In the spirit of your penultimate paragraph, you obviously don't see any irony in another attention seeking individual parading himself in front of our away fans when as you say it is best that we try and forget the past and move on. I did not say I agreed with Lowe going to Nottm Forest but unfortunately he does ever right to attend hopefully that will be the last we see of him. What I am complaining about is the constant bickering between the board members which as led us to our present position. Thats all they all seem to be board members from hell
Mole Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 OK, Crouch's anger about Lowe and Richards invitation to watch our last match in this division isn't shared by you, unsurprisingly. I can name another half dozen others who I just know would agree with you. On the other hand, I'm equally sure that the vast majority of fans would share Crouch's indignation and respect that he has a higher media profile than them and quietly thank him for articulating their thoughts. In the spirit of your penultimate paragraph, you obviously don't see any irony in another attention seeking individual parading himself in front of our away fans when as you say it is best that we try and forget the past and move on. Well said.
jonah Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 “Has he got utter contempt for the fans? How dare he turn up at the game after all he’s done to the club.” I guess Crouch doesn't do irony - whilst Lowe has kept away from SMS and is only attending the City Ground in the Forest section as their guest, why doesn't Crouch heed his own advice and keep away "after all he's done to the club"? Seems to me that's he's the one who won't leave it alone and butt out. None of them are Directors now, they are all free to go and watch Saints, but none of them should be sat in the *Saints* Directors area and none of them should be left with the misplaced opinion that they hold any sway at the club any more. It's no wonder the Echo phone him for another free back page headline - he just can't help himself, it's cringeworthy.
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I guess Crouch doesn't do irony - whilst Lowe has kept away from SMS and is only attending the City Ground in the Forest section as their guest, why doesn't Crouch heed his own advice and keep away "after all he's done to the club"? Seems to me that's he's the one who won't leave it alone and butt out. None of them are Directors now, they are all free to go and watch Saints, but none of them should be sat in the *Saints* Directors area and none of them should be left with the misplaced opinion that they hold any sway at the club any more. It's no wonder the Echo phone him for another free back page headline - he just can't help himself, it's cringeworthy. I dont think it is cringeworthy but like how fans expect Lowe to behave
OldNick Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Im amazed that RL is going to Forest and think it is a very bad judgement. On the other habd for LC or any other director to criitcise is in insult as well.They all have been party to our downfall and so should keep quiet as well. Yes LC has put his hand in his pocket but is that through guilt? He was a king maker when Wilde first appeared, had he not jopined forces with him the rest would not have unravelled.All of them lock stock and barrel should stay away and also shut the F up
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Well Mr Crouch does not speak for me and his comment shows him to be small minded . Surely it is a time to forget the past but that attention seeking person cannot keep his mouth shut All the former board members who led us to this situation are all culpable and they should all shut up Still dancing for good old Rupes cheerleaders then john. Your man is an utter disgrace.[-X
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 (edited) Still dancing for good old Rupes cheerleaders then john. Your man is an utter disgrace.[-X No just taken a dislike to Crouch again like you have with Lowe and agree with Nick H above. Mind you there are not many people I dislike except for Osborne the shadow Chancellor But Lowe does have some front though must be ****ing off lots of people but I dont care what he does he is gone now so in a few months we may have similar points of view regarding SFC if it exists. What do think is going to happen ? Edited 1 May, 2009 by John B
Wes Tender Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 OK, Crouch's anger about Lowe and Richards invitation to watch our last match in this division isn't shared by you, unsurprisingly. I can name another half dozen others who I just know would agree with you. Funnily enough, Jonah, you were one of those who I had included. Some of those others have already made their thoughts clear on this. So you don't think that it is provocative at all, Jonah, Lowe going to the last match that Saints play in this division and sitting in the rival's directors' box as their guest, even though he was the chief architect of our demise? No, of course you don't; silly me. You don't do irony either.
OldNick Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Funnily enough, Jonah, you were one of those who I had included. Some of those others have already made their thoughts clear on this. So you don't think that it is provocative at all, Jonah, Lowe going to the last match that Saints play in this division and sitting in the rival's directors' box as their guest, even though he was the chief architect of our demise? No, of course you don't; silly me. You don't do irony either.On this i agree, RL should not go and I wonder what foolishness brings this on. It is only going to niggle fans, and until the truth of all the shenanigans of the past few seasons are known for sure they all should keep thier heads down.I am more understanding of RL's action in the past but on this occasion I have no understanding of what he is doing.i will have to listen to 90 minutes of anti Lowe bile on the radio during the game now.
Wes Tender Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 On this i agree, RL should not go and I wonder what foolishness brings this on. It is only going to niggle fans, and until the truth of all the shenanigans of the past few seasons are known for sure they all should keep thier heads down.I am more understanding of RL's action in the past but on this occasion I have no understanding of what he is doing.i will have to listen to 90 minutes of anti Lowe bile on the radio during the game now. Thanks Nick. You weren't on the list, as although we have disagreed on some things, I felt that you would sensibly consider this to be an inept and provocative action by Lowe. He either did it deliberately to rub our noses in it, or else he just did not comprehend that it was a provocation, which might indeed be the case given his lack of understanding of what makes most ordinary fans tick.
manzo Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I quite agree .... far too much hysteria ......... I mean, the same thing happened when someone dared to suggest that Hitler "might" be invading Austria ...... Far Far better to wait six years to see what actually develops We have a winner! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law (and, no, it's not *that* Godwin )
LostBoys Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 I hope he gets a rousing reception from the travelling fans - I am sure he will. I was too slow to get a ticket and I wish I could be there to help them. Can someone please take a camcorder and record the event for posterity as I will treasure it. I can only wait for this arrogant cretin to disappear forever in a few weeks taking his plants on this site with him.
John B Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 Thanks Nick. You weren't on the list, as although we have disagreed on some things, I felt that you would sensibly consider this to be an inept and provocative action by Lowe. He either did it deliberately to rub our noses in it, or else he just did not comprehend that it was a provocation, which might indeed be the case given his lack of understanding of what makes most ordinary fans tick. Yes I am amazed too And for once I totally agree with your analysis but I dont think he fully understands why he is hated so much because he probably thinks he did the best for the club Now Lowe is gone can we think of the future like the next manager
ottery st mary Posted 1 May, 2009 Posted 1 May, 2009 No just taken a dislike to Crouch again like you have with Lowe and agree with Nick H above. Mind you there are not many people I dislike except for Osborne the shadow Chancellor But Lowe does have some front though must be ****ing off lots of people but I dont care what he does he is gone now so in a few months we may have similar points of view regarding SFC if it exists. What do think is going to happen ? Even your answer tells me you just can't get away from the man. You are obviously a big fan of Rupes...But opinions[-X The mere fact of what he does now highlights what a piece of work he is.:mad: He is a nasty little man in my eyes. Some of his followers on this forum portray that spiteful trait that he also has.[-X Let him anywhere near this club again and he will finish us for good...In my view the man is an utter idiot and his little band of dancing majorettes make me laugh...Pom Poms all a twirl...Ruperts girls have got no talent.:smt117 But john you and your little twirlers carry on free country and all that.[-X
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