John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 (edited) I thought Tom Scott was going to Forest with Lowe as his son was a supporter of Forest. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4323308.Mr_Jersey_not_in_the_running_to_buy_Saints/ A possible explanation ? There is no evidence that Lowe is going to come back except for Paranoia Edited 29 April, 2009 by John B
Ewell Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Do you think, just potentially, that people MAY be jumping the gun a little bit...No-one has confirmed it's true that he's going, and no-one knows if he is involved with a consortium. Just take a deep breath... You should know better than posting common sense on here! Southampton to have a football club or not to have a football club now that is the question! Do some of you hate Lowe more than you love Southampton? It certainly seems that way!
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 There has been a lot of dirty tricks played in last year or so.Has this grenade been thrown in to effect one of ther bidders??? People know that just a mention of RL gets the fans going ,why would RL want to go anyway at this delicate time.It doesnt make sense the more you think about it.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 You should know better than posting common sense on here! Southampton to have a football club or not to have a football club now that is the question! Do some of you hate Lowe more than you love Southampton? It certainly seems that way! I love Saints and hate Lowe.
Dicko Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I thought Tom Scott was going to Forest with Lowe as his son was a supporter of Forest. A possible explanation ? There is no evidence that Lowe is going to come back except for Paranoia Tom Scott is originally from Nottingham, so that might be a valid explanation
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 You should know better than posting common sense on here! Southampton to have a football club or not to have a football club now that is the question! Do some of you hate Lowe more than you love Southampton? It certainly seems that way! Personally, I won't be happy if he returns BUT and it's a big but (hehe), no-one will stop me supporting my club especially after being so close to folding completely. You don't know what you have 'til it's gone.
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I love Saints and hate Lowe.Do you hate something enough to allow that to kill the thing you love. It is a dilemna but I am suspicious of this rumour
thefuriousb Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Listening to South Today Fry has said the offers have been very poor as we have been relegated.Are we being softened up for 'it is only 1 bidder' and 'if we dont accept his offer 'etc. I really am torn between having no club or RL's reurn. He knows what the club can earn without the debt and may see an opportunity.He had better factor in a massive drop in attendance as I will find it difficult to go, although saints is in my blood and stupidly I cant let it go Perhaps he has been a go between and may have brought an investor to buy the club and not have any intention of coming back. I don't think that those were the actual words used. I think it was more a case that relegation has seen the value of the club fall. Which I guess means that the offers received have not been as lucrative as they would have had we stayed up - though stand to be corrected if I have mis-interpreted.
Weston Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I have not seen or heard any evidence that Lowe is involved in any consortium at present looking at SFC or any chance he is trying to come back. The NDA's are holding firm and Mr Fry is saying nothing which might identify those at presently interested. The guys from Guernsey are too up front and that stinks of tyre kickers. There are at least two very interested parties. Let us hope there is more news from the Administrator later this week. All this speculation, despite being fun and keeping posters interest up, is just that, speculation and most very wide of the mark. You might say, "how do you know?" and my retort "how do you know I do not"
Sussex Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I don't think that those were the actual words used. I think it was more a case that relegation has seen the value of the club fall. Which I guess means that the offers received have not been as lucrative as they would have had we stayed up - though stand to be corrected if I have mis-interpreted. That's the way I took it. Surely all parties will have been prepared for a lower valuation of the club after relegation so they will have to be ready for lower offers, if and when they are made.
krissyboy31 Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I don't think that those were the actual words used. I think it was more a case that relegation has seen the value of the club fall. Which I guess means that the offers received have not been as lucrative as they would have had we stayed up - though stand to be corrected if I have mis-interpreted. Fry actually said that relegation had had an effect on the value but the parties he was negotiating with had already factored that likelihood in to the equation.
Ash Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Do you think, just potentially, that people MAY be jumping the gun a little bit...No-one has confirmed it's true that he's going, and no-one knows if he is involved with a consortium. Just take a deep breath... You what? And miss a perfectly good opportunity to get a rage boner and rant about how we won't be buying a season ticket next year? How much bull**** gets posted on the forum? And why do people believe it without a second thought?
landford.saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 There is no evidence that Lowe is going to come back except for Paranoia "Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they are not after you" OR inthis case doesn't mean its not true
St. Jason Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 What if RL has brought an investor and only the go between.Are we in a position to scupper any consortium? We should let the club get taken overe and then decide.If we fold there is no club to argue about. Dont be too confident that there are a multitude of buyers.Rumours on here today that of the 4 left 2 have walked!! As for assaulting him, that would be madness as our fans would lose any sympathy they had. To be honest Nick if Lowe was to return I'd left with no club anyway! I've had my season ticket for 20 years and I'll be renewing again this year, but not if Lowe, Wilde, Askham or Richards are involved. As some one else pointed out, Lowe has been paid this year to take us into league 1 and administration, not only that us fans are now being asked to dig deep just to get to the end of the season, how sickening would it be to see that smug tw4t now come back and make another fortune out of us!
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 You what? And miss a perfectly good opportunity to get a rage boner and rant about how we won't be buying a season ticket next year? How much bull**** gets posted on the forum? And why do people believe it without a second thought? Rage boner! That is genius mate, fair play.
fish fingers Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Tom Scott has a very round face. Not sure i trust him
St. Jason Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 You should know better than posting common sense on here! Southampton to have a football club or not to have a football club now that is the question! Do some of you hate Lowe more than you love Southampton? It certainly seems that way! Yes, because with Lowe at Southampton, for me there is no Saints! I will not return if he comes back to our club. He's taken a wage for taking this club to league 1 and administration. Us fans have been asked to dig deep in our own pockets to just make it to the end of the season, now your questioning our support if we choose not to return if he comes back!
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Yes, because with Lowe at Southampton, for me there is no Saints! I will not return if he comes back to our club. He's taken a wage for taking this club to league 1 and administration. Us fans have been asked to dig deep in our own pockets to just make it to the end of the season, now your questioning our support if we choose not to return if he comes back! Who do you bank with out of interest?
St. Jason Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Who do you bank with out of interest? Coutts, why?
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Yes, because with Lowe at Southampton, for me there is no Saints! I will not return if he comes back to our club. He's taken a wage for taking this club to league 1 and administration. Us fans have been asked to dig deep in our own pockets to just make it to the end of the season, now your questioning our support if we choose not to return if he comes back!On this occasion I would understrand a bit more.I dont know Id have the will power
exit2 Posted 29 April, 2009 Author Posted 29 April, 2009 The NDA's are holding firm and Mr Fry is saying nothing which might identify those at presently interested. Problem is Ron, that the NDA's are one way traffic. You know as well as I do, the the NDA's in place stop "interested parties" from talking about information within the club ie players wages, debt etc and stops Mark Fry coming public with names of those interested. What it doesnt stop is the "interested parties" releasing information about them. For instance how the hell did the Echo / SSN found out about the guys from the channel islands? Names etc? I have heard from several people names of those involved in other parties that are having a peek and are not that bothered about hiding the fact You might say, "how do you know?" and my retort "how do you know I do not" Love it, I will kepp that one
St. Jason Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 On this occasion I would understrand a bit more.I dont know Id have the will power I've struggled to motivate myself this season Nick to be honest, a couple of times I've met mates in the pub who weren't going to the game and ended up staying in the pub. I know its bad and I know i shouldn't get all caught up in the politics but for me the politics and the football are inextricably connected.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Coutts, why? Ooh posh! To be honest I'm just wondering how many people have pulled out of banking with RBS, HBOS etc because of the horrible amounts the directors have made through dragging those companies down. You're fine though!
gonzo Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I reckon that Lowe has been invited by the Forest board as a thank you for his part in helping Forest avoid relegation.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I've struggled to motivate myself this season Nick to be honest, a couple of times I've met mates in the pub who weren't going to the game and ended up staying in the pub. I know its bad and I know i shouldn't get all caught up in the politics but for me the politics and the football are inextricably connected. I think the problem is the politics have taken over the club, and I have to agree I'm sick of it. I'm not sure how different we'd view boardroom struggles if we were succesful, and whether or not people's indifference to the club is just because of Lowe/Wilde/Crouch, or combined with the lack of success and complete obliteration on the pitch.
Saint Charlie Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Problem is Ron, that the NDA's are one way traffic. You know as well as I do, the the NDA's in place stop "interested parties" from talking about information within the club ie players wages, debt etc and stops Mark Fry coming public with names of those interested. What it doesnt stop is the "interested parties" releasing information about them. For instance how the hell did the Echo / SSN found out about the guys from the channel islands? Names etc? I have heard from several people names of those involved in other parties that are having a peek and are not that bothered about hiding the fact Love it, I will kepp that one Are these mostly ones that have been mentioned on here?
darren1 Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rupert etc resign from the board of SLH, but there was no mention of resignations from SFC. Mark Fry has stated the board of the club are continuing to run the club. Isn't Rupert STILL on that board? Please correct me if I am wrong as I thought he was on it..........
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rupert etc resign from the board of SLH, but there was no mention of resignations from SFC. Mark Fry has stated the board of the club are continuing to run the club. Isn't Rupert STILL on that board? Please correct me if I am wrong as I thought he was on it.......... Nope, not on the FC board. That is David Jones (Don't know HOW he's still there)...and one other who's name escapes me.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 You should know better than posting common sense on here! Southampton to have a football club or not to have a football club now that is the question! Do some of you hate Lowe more than you love Southampton? It certainly seems that way! Very simplistic. People don't wish to have gone through this very crappy time only to end up back where we started. It's a bitter pill to swallow. And yes, much as we all love the club, I would think there would be a fair few who would baulk at continuing to give hard earned money to see SFC in the 3rd div for the first time in almost a human lifespan without even the small bonus of having gotten rid of the person who is most culpable for our demise.
John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rupert etc resign from the board of SLH, but there was no mention of resignations from SFC. Mark Fry has stated the board of the club are continuing to run the club. Isn't Rupert STILL on that board? Please correct me if I am wrong as I thought he was on it.......... Well he is not
docker-p Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 You should know better than posting common sense on here! Southampton to have a football club or not to have a football club now that is the question! Do some of you hate Lowe more than you love Southampton? It certainly seems that way! Yep
John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Nope, not on the FC board. That is David Jones (Don't know HOW he's still there)...and one other who's name escapes me. Dawns Dad apparently
Nineteen Canteen Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 As he and Richards are officially nothing to do with Southampton FC could I ask how they would have got an invite into Notts Forests boardroom/directors box ? Don't know but how do you explain Crouch's queasy acts recently.
Mole Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Don't know but how do you explain Crouch's queasy acts recently. What like him stumping up the cash to keep us in business?
saint1977 Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I have not seen or heard any evidence that Lowe is involved in any consortium at present looking at SFC or any chance he is trying to come back. The NDA's are holding firm and Mr Fry is saying nothing which might identify those at presently interested. The guys from Guernsey are too up front and that stinks of tyre kickers. There are at least two very interested parties. Let us hope there is more news from the Administrator later this week. All this speculation, despite being fun and keeping posters interest up, is just that, speculation and most very wide of the mark. You might say, "how do you know?" and my retort "how do you know I do not" Quality. The less I hear the better I think it is for the club and it means that those NDAs are holding firm. I think these 2 lads today are PR seekers and don't match up with Fry's statement.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Don't know but how do you explain Crouch's queasy acts recently. You mean like giving his own money to try and keep us afloat? Or trying to drum up interest ? I would say those are the actions of someone who cares about Saints. What has Lowe done to help us?
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Ooh posh! To be honest I'm just wondering how many people have pulled out of banking with RBS, HBOS etc because of the horrible amounts the directors have made through dragging those companies down. You're fine though! Which shows how little you know about banking, given that Coutts was/is part of RBS...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 if this is true (and I have heard it is) then I think Saints fans should be very very worried. There is only one reason why Lowe will be there and that is because he will be connected to the new owners. I think Mark Fry has some questions to answer - I know he is not meant to be working for SFC or the fans but I am also hearing tales of "favouritism". Duncan, I don't think so and to suggest the administrator whose actions will be regulated and under heavy scrutiny is falling foul of favouritism is careless on your part at best. He is there for the creditors of SFC and if necessary wind the club up if he is unable to secure a sale that meets the demands of those creditors. Cheap scare mongering on you part and if Lowe is the only way this club can survive then so be it. Better than any alternatives.
TNT Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Don't know but how do you explain Crouch's queasy acts recently. Queasy on doing what he can to help keep the club afloat you mean. Crouch has put more money into the pot in the last couple of weeks than Askham, Richards, Lowe altogether have ever done and that goes back some 38 years for the likes of Askham.
um pahars Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Better than any alternatives. That's what you (or was it Sundance or Flashman or The Bear or Whoever) thought about the alternatives to our shrewd and effective CEO when he came back last time;)
Nineteen Canteen Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Listening to South Today Fry has said the offers have been very poor as we have been relegated.Are we being softened up for 'it is only 1 bidder' and 'if we dont accept his offer 'etc. I really am torn between having no club or RL's reurn. He knows what the club can earn without the debt and may see an opportunity.He had better factor in a massive drop in attendance as I will find it difficult to go, although saints is in my blood and stupidly I cant let it go Perhaps he has been a go between and may have brought an investor to buy the club and not have any intention of coming back. Sorry Nick, I think you will find it easy to go the same as I would no matter who was in charge, even Crouch and McMenemy holding buckets. Can't believe any fan would not be simply grateful we still have a club that in 2010 will be 125 years old and not 6 months old.
trousers Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Nope, not on the FC board. That is David Jones (Don't know HOW he's still there)...and one other who's name escapes me. Kenneth Tointon. Writes excellent programme notes.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Duncan, I don't think so and to suggest the administrator whose actions will be regulated and under heavy scrutiny is falling foul of favouritism is careless on your part at best. He is there for the creditors of SFC and if necessary wind the club up if he is unable to secure a sale that meets the demands of those creditors. Cheap scare mongering on you part and if Lowe is the only way this club can survive then so be it. Better than any alternatives. If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure. I will go elsewhere. Don't wont to - but I will have had enough.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 I've struggled to motivate myself this season Nick to be honest, a couple of times I've met mates in the pub who weren't going to the game and ended up staying in the pub. I know its bad and I know i shouldn't get all caught up in the politics but for me the politics and the football are inextricably connected. And you bank at Coutts who only take very high net worth individuals and require minimum balances in your accounts that most of us can only dream of earning. Marry that up to the fact you lead us to believe you go drinking in the pub with your mates like any normal man on the street and it suggests to me you're not exactly on the level Jason. Of course your idea of a pub may differ from mine where you can buy pints instead of champers. Your either a bullsh1tter or ex-footballer. Who would admit they bank at Coutts FFS apart from some flash bstard with more money than sense.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure. I will go elsewhere. Don't wont to - but I will have had enough. Sad and I'm afraid says more about you than anything else along with those who follow your bizarre logic. Just very very sad.
Mole Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Sad and I'm afraid says more about you than anything else along with those who follow your bizarre logic. Just very very sad. Nah, he's not the sad one here. Do you have a mirror handy?
Kingsland Red Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure. I will go elsewhere. Don't wont to - but I will have had enough. I'm with you there FF. As a season ticket holder for many years, I feel we were shafted by 'March Madness' occuring before Lowe's return last year. I'm also out if Lord Duckhunter returns.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 Sad and I'm afraid says more about you than anything else along with those who follow your bizarre logic. Just very very sad. I can understand if fans still want to go if Lowe comes back.I still bought a ST even though i didnt want him here and i disagreed with what he was doing to the club.Sad logic it may be,but to be fair,ive just about had enough of Rupert bl00dy Lowe. Ive had enough of him always trying things his way,yet always making a mess of things. The club in my opinion will never recover from Lowe part three and i would not want to stick around to see it die.
docker-p Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 If that is the case then I am out. If Lowe comes back Southampton FC can go figure. I will go elsewhere. Don't wont to - but I will have had enough. Me too. All those that say "if it means Lowe returning or Saints not exhistiing" etc etc, are missing the point. If Lowe returns there really will be no Saints.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 April, 2009 Posted 29 April, 2009 And you bank at Coutts who only take very high net worth individuals and require minimum balances in your accounts that most of us can only dream of earning. Marry that up to the fact you lead us to believe you go drinking in the pub with your mates like any normal man on the street and it suggests to me you're not exactly on the level Jason. Of course your idea of a pub may differ from mine where you can buy pints instead of champers. Your either a bullsh1tter or ex-footballer. Who would admit they bank at Coutts FFS apart from some flash bstard with more money than sense. My last post of the day, but well worth spending on saying this: You really are a ****ing ****.
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