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Paul Tisdale, sort of manager we need?


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Sign him for the forum teams...get rid of Phil and nick and then loan Paul to SFC..Easy

 

 

No offence Phil and nick.;)..If we get Paul Tisdale..we will pay youe Xs back to

Dubai and in your case Millbrook, nick.:rolleyes:

 

If we don't get a buyer and go bust..you two guys can be joint Managers of the Reformed Saints until we get out of Southampton junior league 7.:)

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Picking the right Manager is certainly a tough call and one that is hardly an exact sceince. Players that tick all the boxes (David Platt/Bobby Moore/Bryan Robson) ,who you believe have everything required go on to become failures. Whilst Mangers who do well at Clubs, completely mess up when moving to another (Lawrie Mac/Mike Walker/Paul Ince). Being sacked at a previous job,should be no bar to getting the Saints job (WGS). Personally, although Tisdale looks to have promise and tick a lot of the boxes, I would urge caution at this stage of his career. -10 (possible more) next year is going to be tough and expections will proberly be too high. I would like someone whose been around the block once or twice, is used to League 1/CCC, to steady the ship for 2 or 3 years.Ronnie Moore/Cotterill would be my choice, whilst keeping an eye on Tisdale's progress. There is plenty of time for him to manage Saints.

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So Tisdale would look to leave Exeter and join Saints, who will start next season at least 10 points above us, in all probability. Of course he won't. Some sense of perspective is needed here. Tisdale is a decent shout, but it won't happen.

 

 

Grayson dropped down a league to manage Leeds. Size and real ambition of a club counts for a lot.

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So Tisdale would look to leave Exeter and join Saints, who will start next season at least 10 points above us, in all probability. Of course he won't. Some sense of perspective is needed here. Tisdale is a decent shout, but it won't happen.

 

I'm also not absolutely sure that he is the right man to turn round a team that is on a downward spiral, he is the sort that builds slowly, improving teams gradually, and is very successful doing just that.

 

What can't believe what you written in your first paragraph! Look at the resources between the 2 (If we get a buyer!) and tell me there is not a massive gap in potential and that Saints will be a step down. This is one of the stupidist comments I have read on this forum.

 

If he was offered and turned it down it would be because he is loyal to Exeter or believe a bigger opportunity will come along, like Championship club capable of promotion to the premiership.

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wont happen, exeter are a club still on the up with the potential to go into the championship.

 

southampton have no owner, half the squad is going and starting on minus ten

 

being honest all of you have your head in the clouds

 

You may think so but I am guessing that Paul sees a good chance of putting his boots back on and getting a game for us in midfield next season....He has no chance in the Exeter side:D

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Due to popular demand on another thread (well 2 others!)

 

I feel Paul Tisdale is just the sort of bloke to give us a fresh start;

 

 

articulate, listen to post match in

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/exeter_city/7976044.stm

 

product of our youth system

 

only 36.

 

learnt management trade in non-league with Bath - 4 promotions in 5 seasons

 

his side plays attractive football

 

losing in play off final in first season at Exeter

won plays off in 2nd season - despite having to sell many players

in play off position in his 3rd season

 

definately on the way up, no failure/sacking baggage like most managers

 

 

on of sky sports top ten football league managers (list before much of this good season)

 

http://www.skysports.com/interactive/top_tens_story/0,25722,15881_4214437,00.html

 

not big name to attact big players but thats not where we are.

 

A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind?

 

Agree 100%!!!!!!!!

 

He was my first choice when Burley left and has been ever sice.

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wont happen, exeter are a club still on the up with the potential to go into the championship.

 

southampton have no owner, half the squad is going and starting on minus ten

 

being honest all of you have your head in the clouds

 

or just know more about club status, potential, support, history, grounds, facilities etc

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Seen a lot of the Grecians over the last couple of years and yes Tisdale would be a great shout! Tidy, direct attacking football on the deck, relatively solid at the back with a good blend of youth and experience.

Some Exeter fans seem to get on his back a lot when things arent going perfectly their way during the game, which could be to do with the apparent lack of emotion he displays on the touchline, but this just highlights his calm and measured approach to management.

Definately a better shout than poortvliet/Wotte in any case.

On the other hand i dont want to see exeter slide back down after losing him....

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Plus everyone is ignoring the fact that we would need to pay compensation....do we really need to waste money doing that on a manager that hasn't cut his teeth in League 1 yet?

 

when we could save money and have......

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Due to popular demand on another thread (well 2 others!)

 

I feel Paul Tisdale is just the sort of bloke to give us a fresh start;

 

 

articulate, listen to post match in

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/exeter_city/7976044.stm

 

product of our youth system

 

only 36.

 

learnt management trade in non-league with Bath - 4 promotions in 5 seasons

 

his side plays attractive football

 

losing in play off final in first season at Exeter

won plays off in 2nd season - despite having to sell many players

 

Have we really fallen this far?

I think we are going to need somebody a bit better to get us out of this league tbh and I hope any new owners realize this and aim a bit higher.

 

 

in play off position in his 3rd season

 

definately on the way up, no failure/sacking baggage like most managers

 

 

on of sky sports top ten football league managers (list before much of this good season)

 

http://www.skysports.com/interactive/top_tens_story/0,25722,15881_4214437,00.html

 

not big name to attact big players but thats not where we are.

 

A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind?

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Tisade, Magilton, Tommy Widd...would welcome any of them.

 

All grafters and all would do well with our young squad, I'm sure.

 

 

 

But I thought the consortium who are supposed to be best placed to succeed in their venture were going to get us "an exciting manager who will put bums on seats" don't really think any of the above fit that description.

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wont happen, exeter are a club still on the up with the potential to go into the championship.

 

southampton have no owner, half the squad is going and starting on minus ten

 

being honest all of you have your head in the clouds

 

 

Even Exeter fans don't think they have potential to go into the Championship, they've barely been higher than the bottom division in their entire history.

 

Their natural level is fourth tier.

 

They have a 8,000 stadium in a footballing backwater.

 

Tisdale would take the Saints job like a shot. it's a job ten times bigger than the Exeter job even if we had a thirty point deduction and Exeter started the league season with ten bonus points.

 

And I am not some "head in the clouds" dreamer. It's simple size and scope of the respective clubs. Anyone who takes over at Saints whoever they are will be taking over a Premier League standard club with facilities putting us in the top 30 in the country.

 

And whoever takes over will think they can get us in the Premier League.

 

Being honest you haven't a clue.

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But I thought the consortium who are supposed to be best placed to succeed in their venture were going to get us "an exciting manager who will put bums on seats" don't really think any of the above fit that description.

 

Quite frankly, the only way that any manager will do that is by getting results first and foremost, and hopefully playing some decent football along the way.

 

I really do not care who is our manager, barring a few personal exceptions. I have an idea of the kind of manager that I think would be ideal, and Tisdale is in that mould.

 

Who would describe Nigel Pearson as 'an exciting manager who will put bums on seats'? I don't think any of us did when we first appointed him, but he did the job required, and has gone even further this season with Leicester. Doing THAT will put bums on seats.

 

A 'name' means little or nothing, unless it's backed up with ability, and that goes for players and managers, and while we're at it, owners too.

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as above key who owns us...

 

MLT confirms today leading consortium

 

MLT and Tisdale as Saints for 6 years together

 

Last weekend MLT and Tisdale pictured together at David Hughes testimonial

 

Tisdale get promotion to show he is ready for bigger challenge

 

Its all coming together!

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Due to popular demand on another thread (well 2 others!)

 

I feel Paul Tisdale is just the sort of bloke to give us a fresh start;

 

 

articulate, listen to post match in

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/exeter_city/7976044.stm

 

product of our youth system

 

only 36.

 

learnt management trade in non-league with Bath - 4 promotions in 5 seasons

 

his side plays attractive football

 

losing in play off final in first season at Exeter

won plays off in 2nd season - despite having to sell many players

in play off position in his 3rd season

 

definately on the way up, no failure/sacking baggage like most managers

 

 

on of sky sports top ten football league managers (list before much of this good season)

 

http://www.skysports.com/interactive/top_tens_story/0,25722,15881_4214437,00.html

 

not big name to attact big players but thats not where we are.

 

A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind?

 

Did MLT talk this over with his old team mate at the Hughes game? Saw them pictured talking.

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Due to popular demand on another thread (well 2 others!)

 

I feel Paul Tisdale is just the sort of bloke to give us a fresh start;

 

 

articulate, listen to post match in

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/exeter_city/7976044.stm

 

product of our youth system

 

only 36.

 

learnt management trade in non-league with Bath - 4 promotions in 5 seasons

 

his side plays attractive football

 

losing in play off final in first season at Exeter

won plays off in 2nd season - despite having to sell many players

in play off position in his 3rd season

 

definately on the way up, no failure/sacking baggage like most managers

 

 

on of sky sports top ten football league managers (list before much of this good season)

 

http://www.skysports.com/interactive/top_tens_story/0,25722,15881_4214437,00.html

 

not big name to attact big players but thats not where we are.

 

A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind?

 

todays news, looking like MLT will be taking a lead -does this mean his old team mate who he was photo'ed with couple of weeks ago - is more likely?;)

 

or will they go for stability?

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A young, fresh, modern manager for us to unite behind?

 

todays news, looking like MLT will be taking a lead -does this mean his old team mate who he was photo'ed with couple of weeks ago - is more likely?;)

 

or will they go for stability?

 

I think the Pinnacle team - whoever they might be - need to get their feet under the boardroom table first, and who is to say if MLT will be part of the new order once its in place ?

 

Hope your suggestion is correct,but it'll be a few weeks yet before decisionmakers are in place.

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Isn't he a bit of a loose cannon, would be better as a No.2

 

I don't believe he is a "loose cannon". He has been tried and tested and proven to be a successful manager with saints running through his blood. He has been mentioned on here quite a few times from a few different sources and I really think this could be his time. source close to the club suggesting that he will certainly be interviewed but it's not guaranteed he'll get the job. Fingers crossed though!

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I hear that the Pinnacle group are very interested in Tommy Widdrington.

 

Why the hell would they want a chap who has not managed at any level before? He is number 2 to Nick Holmes at Salisbury and always has been! I met Tommy and Nick at the Salisbury match away at Crawley Town last year and what a smashing pair of blokes how loved chatting about Saints. No way can I see Tommy being number 1, now Nick is another story!

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How can you call Bryan Robson a failure then say you want Cotterill?

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't rate Robson at all, but he's kept clubs up and got clubs promoted. He's taken them down and been sacked too, but cotterill has also been sacked and achieved far less.

 

No being sacked shouldn't rule anyone out necessarily, but I really don't want one of the frequently sacked candidates. There are a lot of **** managers out there, so I'd far rather have someone younger and eager to develop/improve. If it's someone with a link to saints then even better.

Robson only ever got Middlesbro promoted (so not clubs) and once he kept a club up on the last day of the season, thanks to Pompey and at our expense. An abject failure, time and again apart from the time he was bankrolled at Boro. Cotterill has been promoted in 2 different divisions on a shoestring budget, and has never been sacked as a manager. He left Burnley by mutual consent with the club in a good position in the Championship. He lives fairly locally and is just the sort of manager we could do with. Much as I like Tisdale, the chances of him leaving Exeter to join a team below them in the league is about as likely as me playing CF for Saints. He is also not the type of manager we really need, he is a slow (good) cautious builder of teams, whereas what we need is someone who can give promotion a go at the first attempt, even with a 10 point deduction.

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New ownership, break with the past, sorry for Wotte as he's done the right things to try to get through this period. I'd like to see a well-known name who will attract players to come here and demonstrate we have ambition. How about WGS? No compensation to get him here, and a chance for him to prove again that he can do it.

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Robson only ever got Middlesbro promoted (so not clubs) and once he kept a club up on the last day of the season, thanks to Pompey and at our expense. An abject failure, time and again apart from the time he was bankrolled at Boro. Cotterill has been promoted in 2 different divisions on a shoestring budget, and has never been sacked as a manager. He left Burnley by mutual consent with the club in a good position in the Championship. He lives fairly locally and is just the sort of manager we could do with. Much as I like Tisdale, the chances of him leaving Exeter to join a team below them in the league is about as likely as me playing CF for Saints. He is also not the type of manager we really need, he is a slow (good) cautious builder of teams, whereas what we need is someone who can give promotion a go at the first attempt, even with a 10 point deduction.

 

wouldn't leave exeter? lol

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Guardiola did alright - so Tisdale defo worth a punt

 

With players like Eto, Messi, Henry, Iniesta, etc at his disposal.

I'm not sure Guardiola would have been able to replicate that at -10 with McGoldrick (though IMHO he will do very well at this level), Schneiderlin, Lallana...

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I hear that the Pinnacle group are very interested in Tommy Widdrington.

 

I don't believe he is a "loose cannon". He has been tried and tested and proven to be a successful manager with saints running through his blood. He has been mentioned on here quite a few times from a few different sources and I really think this could be his time. source close to the club suggesting that he will certainly be interviewed but it's not guaranteed he'll get the job. Fingers crossed though!

 

he has never been a manager.

 

he played a small fraction of his career with saints.

 

hth

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Tisdale has done an excellent job at Exeter & would be a good choice, I'd also be happy with Ince as he is proven at this level. I would also like to throw into the discussion another who has blossomed over 3 years at Stockport County, Jim Gannon took over with them staring conference football in the face at Christmas kept them up broke the all time league record at the time of 9 wins on the trot without conceding a goal & then got them promoted in the play offs last year. He has a the right philosophy as how football should be played & built a really good squad over those 3 years at County before he had to start selling his best players due to finance. He promoted a footballing style of play throughout the club (with some success) from a sound platform of a strong defence to quick mobile forward line. Given time I see know reason why he couldn't do it again for us.

But as I say would be happy to see any of the above mentioned, just thought I'd throw another name in as not many on here may know to much about him.

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Guardiola did alright - so Tisdale defo worth a punt

 

With players like Eto, Messi, Henry, Iniesta, etc at his disposal.

I'm not sure Guardiola would have been able to replicate that at -10 with McGoldrick (though IMHO he will do very well at this level), Schneiderlin, Lallana...

 

It's all relative plus look at other managers of supastars that make a pigs ear of it, my point being it takes a certain magic in someone to pull together a group of individuals to form a team, Mourihno, Keane.....

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