VectisSaint Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 If offer "B" is 18 million, with the intention of letting jacksons farm to passing gypsys, turn Staplewood into allotments and St Mary's into a drive in cinema ...................offer B wins So is Jackson's Farm the location of the Blue Few's new stadium? Is that the plan, a combined stadium and pikey van park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 They've just been on SSN getting on the plane back to the Channel Islands, look a handsome couple. How much have they got in the briefcase though. Are they likely to have 10,15 or 20 million£,can't see any less than that being acceptable,even if they can negociate with Aviva to bring down the immediate debt mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 How much have they got in the briefcase though. Are they likely to have 10,15 or 20 million£,can't see any less than that being acceptable,even if they can negociate with Aviva to bring down the immediate debt mass. All depends if it's their breifcase or if they stole it from Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 (edited) sweet knowing smile to sky sports camera from Steele! also think the words they used were "say they hope to complete" have they spoken with sky? Edited 29 April, 2009 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Mywords Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 So to summarise the last 11 pages, our "bankrupt" club is about to be taken over by someone who has successfully taken 5/6 other companies into bankruptsy. Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 So is Jackson's Farm the location of the Blue Few's new stadium? Is that the plan, a combined stadium and pikey van park? Sorry if it's been said as I've not the time to search but am I right in hearing Jackson's farm has now been given to Barclays as payment for monies owed? According to Mary Corbett. [Whilst I say GIVEN, I do realise this is not until the process of admin has ended] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 The league are going to get into a nightmare if they are not careful. The CVA issue, the club as long as it stays clear of administration wouldn't need a CVA. Would the league say that it now needs a CVA because it is intrinsically/inextricably linked with a public company in administration. I'd love to see them do that. However SLH is in administration but because of it's assets is solvent. SFC because of it's lack of assets and debt's about £6m is only being kept going because of the goodwill from the creditors, the cash donated and the wages being paid. It can't go into administration it's either stay trading or be wound up as it hasn't the assets to fund administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Sorry if it's been said as I've not the time to search but am I right in hearing Jackson's farm has now been given to Barclays as payment for monies owed? According to Mary Corbett. [Whilst I say GIVEN, I do realise this is not until the process of admin has ended] I strange story.If MC told you it could be right I suppose.A bit odd though as i would have thought no creditor is allowed preferential treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I strange story.If MC told you it could be right I suppose.A bit odd though as i would have thought no creditor is allowed preferential treatment. But could the bank have taken a charge on the farm? Rather like if you or I apply for a secured loan then our bank might take a charge on our houses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 But could the bank have taken a charge on the farm? Rather like if you or I apply for a secured loan then our bank might take a charge on our houses? That could be the case and perhaps valid.If so it is amusing how everyone thought that RL etc were trying to do deals only to get it Lol. of course RL, LC ,MW would have known this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lightjaw Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 But ... if ... maybe ..... could be ... Does anybody else feel that a lack of information, and false rumours is a dangerous thing for our football club? If we knew for sure that a takeover was highly unlikely, then we could "smell the coffee" and move on. Look at alternatives such as a fans run club. Maneuver the troops so to speak. I know fans run clubs just don't happen overnight, and there are many issues to be addressed, but I would prefer brainstorming on these forums over dreaming of a knight in shining armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I strange story.If MC told you it could be right I suppose.A bit odd though as i would have thought no creditor is allowed preferential treatment. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=282120&postcount=37 On t'radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 But ... if ... maybe ..... could be ... Does anybody else feel that a lack of information, and false rumours is a dangerous thing for our football club? If we knew for sure that a takeover was highly unlikely, then we could "smell the coffee" and move on. Look at alternatives such as a fans run club. Maneuver the troops so to speak. I know fans run clubs just don't happen overnight, and there are many issues to be addressed, but I would prefer brainstorming on these forums over dreaming of a knight in shining armor. I think plan B has been put in place with the Blue Square Conference approach. I fear this is the most likely scenario at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=282120&postcount=37 On t'radio.So was Jonathan Ross and his claims about that girl, wasnt true though.But thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I think plan B has been put in place with the Blue Square Conference approach. I fear this is the most likely scenario at the moment. I was against admin but I think something will happen that is better than you worry about Mick. If nothing has happened over the bank holiday then it is time to really bite the fingernails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I have no idea if its true but a friend who is alleged to have contacts within SFC says 2 of the four parties have pulled out...Do not shoot the messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Do not shoot the messengerIn most cases id agree but on this occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Saviour of the Saints http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/04/29/will-local-man-be-the-saviour-of-the-saints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 In most cases id agree but on this occasion Thats not very nice nick...I have left your contributions alone for weeks, think I should re-read them now...nah can,t be bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the march again Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I can assure you that MC would not have said that Jacksons farm was not given to Barclays. I think somebody has picked up the wrong end of the stick. Heres hoping the soap opera ends soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I can assure you that MC would not have said that Jacksons farm was not given to Barclays. I think somebody has picked up the wrong end of the stick. Heres hoping the soap opera ends soon.thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the march again Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Sorry Nick that was not very clear - Mary would not have said that Barclays had been given Jackson's Farm. Things do not work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I have a very reliable 'contact' in Guernsey. He is updating me on every move this group make. I'll keep you informed as things develop.I haven't posted earlier as things are in the melting pot so to speak. It is quite possible that the 'Guernsey Group' will put in the best bid. I say no more as my contact will confirm all as soon as the bid is accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Christ hope its not these two they looked a right state on the TV, they could of at least worn some clothes that fitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Sorry Nick that was not very clear - Mary would not have said that Barclays had been given Jackson's Farm. Things do not work like that.I did think that from your initial reply. I was very doubtful MC would have said it in the first place. I dont expect she is very happy her name was put to that in the first place especially over the radio. ps perhaps it would be best to edit your first post to save confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Christ hope its not these two they looked a right state on the TV, they could of at least worn some clothes that fittedOnly the rich can afford to look poor. In my experience many of the people who arrive in expensive suits dont have a pot to .... in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Thats not very nice nick...I have left your contributions alone for weeks, think I should re-read them now...nah can,t be bothered That's your problem you dont want to be educated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 I have no idea if its true but a friend who is alleged to have contacts within SFC says 2 of the four parties have pulled out...Do not shoot the messenger The consortium I know of pulled out today. When I asked why, I was told simply "we looked at the books". They are well connected Saints fans who wanted to do best by the club, but realised other people were better placed to do so. Pity, because I was going to apply for the managers job when they took over. My FA Level 1 Coaching Qualification should easily be enough in League 1..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 The consortium I know of pulled out today. When I asked why, I was told simply "we looked at the books". As I said earlier, something nasty in the woodshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 The league are going to get into a nightmare if they are not careful. The CVA issue, the club as long as it stays clear of administration wouldn't need a CVA. Would the league say that it now needs a CVA because it is intrinsically/inextricably linked with a public company in administration. I'd love to see them do that. However SLH is in administration but because of it's assets is solvent. SFC because of it's lack of assets and debt's about £6m is only being kept going because of the goodwill from the creditors, the cash donated and the wages being paid. It can't go into administration it's either stay trading or be wound up as it hasn't the assets to fund administration. These seem good points to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 (edited) So was Jonathan Ross and his claims about that girl, wasnt true though.But thanks for the link Yes they were, but that wasn't the point. Edited 29 April, 2009 by itchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 The consortium I know of pulled out today. When I asked why, I was told simply "we looked at the books". They are well connected Saints fans who wanted to do best by the club, but realised other people were better placed to do so. Pity, because I was going to apply for the managers job when they took over. My FA Level 1 Coaching Qualification should easily be enough in League 1..... Well, if true, that would be a good thing wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 So to summarise the last 11 pages, our "bankrupt" club is about to be taken over by someone who has successfully taken 5/6 other companies into bankruptsy. Is that it? Thats how I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 As I said earlier, something nasty in the woodshed. Speculation and booloox IMHO - the bottom line is simply 28 mil of debt owed - with the need to negotiate with AVIVA - IF anyone has pulled out it wont eb because they looked atteh books which will tell them we owe surprise surprise 28 mil, but that the cost are X and anticipated revenue is £YK a week so unless we get a subsidy from the new owner or get rid and sell all teh higher wage earners and start again - we woudl continue to loose money hand over fist - so they are probably too small to make a difference...or realised that any deal wioth Aviva would cost too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Speculation and booloox IMHO - the bottom line is simply 28 mil of debt owed - with the need to negotiate with AVIVA - IF anyone has pulled out it wont eb because they looked atteh books which will tell them we owe surprise surprise 28 mil' date=' but that the cost are X and anticipated revenue is £YK a week so unless we get a subsidy from the new owner or get rid and sell all teh higher wage earners and start again - we woudl continue to loose money hand over fist - so they are probably too small to make a difference...or realised that any deal wioth Aviva would cost too much...[/quote'] And to think that I understood Einstein's Theory of Relativity and the Lorenz-Lorentz Correction at the first stab. Calm down FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 What I am having difficulties with is that SSN seem to have a camera watching who goes in and out of SMS and, despite Mark Fry saying FOUR parties are doing due diligence, only these two character from Guernsey seem to have been spotted to date. It is also odd that they are virtually unknown yet SSN soon put a name to them! So, were SSN given a 'tp off' that these two were going to be going to SMS and at what time? Or am I catching conspiracy theory like the rest of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 What I am having difficulties with is that SSN seem to have a camera watching who goes in and out of SMS and, despite Mark Fry saying FOUR parties are doing due diligence, only these two character from Guernsey seem to have been spotted to date. It is also odd that they are virtually unknown yet SSN soon put a name to them! So, were SSN given a 'tp off' that these two were going to be going to SMS and at what time? Or am I catching conspiracy theory like the rest of you? I think they are the only ones not to tick the "No Publicity" box on their pools coupon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but I swear on Sky Sports News they just said a deal with the Jersey blokes could be completed within 48 hours... Nothing on their website though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but I swear on Sky Sports News they just said a deal with the Jersey blokes could be completed within 48 hours... Nothing on their website though. That was reported, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 That was reported, yes. Ah yes, just seen that, sorry for repeating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saints god Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Please god don't be true i don't want any jersey scum running this club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but I swear on Sky Sports News they just said a deal with the Jersey blokes could be completed within 48 hours... Nothing on their website though. See my post above. Who is talking to SSN? Why our two CI boys of course! They told SSN they were going to SMS and, bingo, the cameras were there. SSN know exactly who they are despite the fact they are unknowns! SSN film them leaving to return to the CI's. Soon after they have gone Mark Fry issues a statement to the Echo saying there are four interested parties and it could take ten days to get a deal, obviously trying to counteract what has been fed to SSN. Frankly, these guys are trying to exploit the situation for their own ends and have no real interest/prospect of getting control, just promoting themselves and their business. They will not conclude a deal "within the next 48 hours" of that I am sure UNLESS they are errand boys sent to do a job for someone else ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Please god don't be true i don't want any jersey scum running this club! They are from Guernsey home of MLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saints god Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 They are from Guernsey home of MLT OH thank god, there has been nowt about this in the guernsey press as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 See my post above. Who is talking to SSN? Why our two CI boys of course! They told SSN they were going to SMS and, bingo, the cameras were there. SSN know exactly who they are despite the fact they are unknowns! SSN film them leaving to return to the CI's. Soon after they have gone Mark Fry issues a statement to the Echo saying there are four interested parties and it could take ten days to get a deal, obviously trying to counteract what has been fed to SSN. Frankly, these guys are trying to exploit the situation for their own ends and have no real interest/prospect of getting control, just promoting themselves and their business. They will not conclude a deal "within the next 48 hours" of that I am sure UNLESS they are errand boys sent to do a job for someone else ... Seems speculation to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 See my post above. Who is talking to SSN? Why our two CI boys of course! They told SSN they were going to SMS and, bingo, the cameras were there. SSN know exactly who they are despite the fact they are unknowns! SSN film them leaving to return to the CI's. Soon after they have gone Mark Fry issues a statement to the Echo saying there are four interested parties and it could take ten days to get a deal, obviously trying to counteract what has been fed to SSN. Frankly, these guys are trying to exploit the situation for their own ends and have no real interest/prospect of getting control, just promoting themselves and their business. They will not conclude a deal "within the next 48 hours" of that I am sure UNLESS they are errand boys sent to do a job for someone else ... That's my take on it too. Five minutes of fame and all that. Akin to LLS methinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 OH thank god, there has been nowt about this in the guernsey press as of yet. It was on the Internet from a Guernsey site http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2009/04/29/will-local-man-be-the-saviour-of-the-saints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 They are from Guernsey home of MLT Well they live there. Dont know about Steele but Hubbard is a Hampshire boy and according to the Guernsey local paper (a previous poster put up) a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Well they live there. Dont know about Steele but Hubbard is a Hampshire boy and according to the Guernsey local paper (a previous poster put up) a Saints fan. I think Steele comes from Cheltenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULACZT Posted 29 April, 2009 Share Posted 29 April, 2009 Here's the best one.....Stupert Lowe will be at the Forest match! He actually asked Forest for the ticket! Possibly too embarrassed to ask SFC! I am sure we can all give him a rousing reception...he will probably be sat by his mate Mr Richards or even on the Forest side of the directors box! maybe someone should push a bucket under his nose and ask for a donation?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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