NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice?
hypochondriac Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? Who?
Colinjb Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 Maybe John was having a huff after being part of a team that outplayed his old club? It's possible. I would expect him to still have a lot of good feeling for Brum.
NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Posted 26 August, 2008 (edited) small thing but I like the way JP is with players -he called DMG back, as missed shaking his end to congratulate him Edited 26 August, 2008 by NickG
saintcrris Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 small thing but like the way JP is with players -call DMG back as missed shaking his end to congratulate him What? who? Is this really important?
TopGun Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 What? who? Is this really important? Of course it is. Interaction is precisely one of the things Burley didn't do with his players.
NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Posted 26 August, 2008 it was one of things that players raved about with Mourinhio (no not saying JP is as good before I get slated!) so yes it does matter
saint boggy Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 small thing but like the way JP is with players -call DMG back as missed shaking his end to congratulate him wow, they must really get on well!!!:shock:
NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Posted 26 August, 2008 I would edit it to hand but think I will leave it!
saint boggy Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 I would edit it to hand but think I will leave it! tis worth it from a comedy point of view!! LOL!
saintjay77 Posted 26 August, 2008 Posted 26 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? Maybe he wasnt happy at being poleaxed just before the final whistle and the ref did nothing?
Arizona Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 John without Saganowski is like a meal without Jaffa Cakes. You might aswell just not bother really.
Rod Le Shearer Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 John without Saganowski is like a meal without Jaffa Cakes. You might aswell just not bother really. what a ridiculous statement. and (knowing you) : pleeeease dont ask why...that`s just the way it is.
pez86 Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 Maybe unhappy about the signing of Pekhart? More competition for a place he already hasn't got. JP alluded to some people being disappointed by the extra competition in his post-match interview. Unless he changes his game I can't see Stern getting too many starts ahead of DMG and TP this year. Could be the end for him?
Arizona Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 what a ridiculous statement. and (knowing you) : pleeeease dont ask why...that`s just the way it is. Get behind the Jaffa Cake metaphor FFS! Anway, John has scored 5 goals for Saints when Saga wasn't on the pitch. I wont bicker about it, but I have a feeling he will be the wrong side of 10 this season.
CalshotSpit Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? During the Birmingham league match he was arguing with Poortvliet from the pitch, and did not appear to want to do as he was told. Obviously he has got the hump because of all the changes but to be honest at times he looks lazier than Raziak. He should do well to remember that he was almost on the scrap heap before he came to Saints and had his playing career partially rejuvenated. Another prima donna. If he doesn't like it, he knows where the door is.
N/West Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 Why, did Mourinhio shake the players end aswell
suewhistle Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 Small gestures like the one JP made are important. It's a team game and not only did he want to include everybody, he noticed who he hadn't shook hands with. Detail can be important, it's not just the big picture. A small but good sign.
homesick-saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 it's definitely looking like DMG is the real Jaffacake this season, doesn't it!
miserableoldgit Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 What? who? Is this really important? Yes. They`re called "Management Skills". It`s a way of getting the people who work for you to want give of their best.:confused:
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 John without Saganowski is like a meal without Jaffa Cakes. You might aswell just not bother really. Well, the future is Orange.
saintrich Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 He walked off in a huff, because he got mullered in the box a few seconds before the ref blew for full time and didn't get a free-kick/penalty.
South City Si Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 I'd be quite ****ed off if I just got punched in the face by the keeper and knocked down in the box and denyed a penalty, then my team mate get fouled in the box and still no penalty and for the ref then just blow the whistle and ignore him!
Saint Matty 76 Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 South City Si is completely right, I think he wanted to come on and score to prove a point to Jan, and when a blatent penalty claim brought up nothing and then another one the same, I think he had the right to be a bit ****ed off.
Arizona Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 I wouldn't let him take a penalty anyway TBH. *cough* Norwich *cough*
Thedelldays Posted 27 August, 2008 Posted 27 August, 2008 During the Birmingham league match he was arguing with Poortvliet from the pitch, and did not appear to want to do as he was told. Obviously he has got the hump because of all the changes but to be honest at times he looks lazier than Raziak. He should do well to remember that he was almost on the scrap heap before he came to Saints and had his playing career partially rejuvenated. Another prima donna. If he doesn't like it, he knows where the door is. ermm..he was in and out of a prem team and some of his goal talluy last season are from the prem..
Saint Martini Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 ermm..he was in and out of a prem team and some of his goal talluy last season are from the prem.. No its not, he left Sunderland before they played any prem matches.
the stain Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 Get behind the Jaffa Cake metaphor FFS! Anway, John has scored 5 goals for Saints when Saga wasn't on the pitch. I wont bicker about it, but I have a feeling he will be the wrong side of 10 this season. What was his goals per game with Saga and without? I can't be ehrsed to look it up but it would probably be the more enlightening stat...
Badger Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 Small gestures like the one JP made are important. It's a team game and not only did he want to include everybody, he noticed who he hadn't shook hands with. Detail can be important, it's not just the big picture. A small but good sign. Agree with you.JP certainly seems good in the management of his squad. It was this style of "management" that many complimented Mourinho on as NickG points out,and also calling back McGoldrick shows a great discipline in emphasising to the player who is actually in charge.Had this been seen of Clough then it would be deemed a masterstroke in man management. It could be argued that it is easier to 'manage' the younger players as the seniors earning their mega-salaries develop an arrogance that prevents anyone telling them anything (as Merrington found out), but for working with our current squad JP appears to be ideal.
Scummer Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 No its not, he left Sunderland before they played any prem matches. He played one Prem game, against Brum. Came on after 58 minutes, and scored in a 2-2 draw.
Saint Martini Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 He played one Prem game, against Brum. Came on after 58 minutes, and scored in a 2-2 draw. Ok ok, but still. Its not like his stats were harmed by that one match in the PL. The fact remains he had not been very prolific in the seasons before he came here and came close to being 1:2. His previous record in the UK (and mostly in the CCC) puts him below 1:3.
Charlie Wayman Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 Time to GET RID. The bloke's a prize plonker and looks antediluvian in this team.
Arizona Posted 29 August, 2008 Posted 29 August, 2008 What was his goals per game with Saga and without? I can't be ehrsed to look it up but it would probably be the more enlightening stat... I don't know about per game, but he scored 14 goals when Saga was on the pitch and 5 when he wasn't. Given that Saga only started 15 games, I think there is a strong link there somewhere.
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