Nineteen Canteen Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Yet you still respond. I am talking about an idea that should the worst happen can occur. I am stating that it is something I would support. You are essentially saying that it would be unworkable, despite having no evidence to support this, you have come to this conclusion essentially just on the basis of your own instincts. I feel it is rediculous to pan an idea that is in its earliest phase of creation based on the instinct of someone who is intrinsically against the concept in the first place. I respect it is something you would want nothing to do with, thats fine, that is entirely your own perogative, lets hope is doesn't come to what many like me are considering. If the worst does happen though, as stated in the research thread I posted a good 55%+ (based on the fanbase represented on this forum, which as the largest fan forum on the internet should indicate a fair cross section) would support a new entity, they would still want a club to support. The issue, as discussed in this thread becomes far more clouded if previous board members of any kind (Crouch, Wilde, Askham, Lowe et all) get back involved. And yes, I would rather support a splinter club. If no such entity would arise though, I honestly couldn't say what I would do, I would probably continue as a dissillusioned fan as I have the past 5 years, more resource to be tapped into. Colin you should listen to your own advice. I don't believe in god and the Holy Trinity either and many more words have been written on that than your whimsical concepts. Happy to dismiss both on what I have read until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Colin you should listen to your own advice. I don't believe in god and the Holy Trinity either and many more words have been written on that than your whimsical concepts. Happy to dismiss both on what I have read until proven otherwise. Good heavens we do have some common ground after all! And asking me to follow my own advice, come on. You ask people to be open minded yet you are not yourself. Shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Rob I was talking about how Lowe reacted to relegation and his prudent approach to dealing with it. Hence 'Lowe in 2006'. Relegation from the Premiership is and always will be an occupational hazard for any but a handful of big clubs in this day and age and we were lucky at times to stay as long as did. Sorry, I responded to your comment: Lowe was already operating a long, long term plan back in 2006 which says that this was already under way in 2006, which includes our relegation season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The problem is whichever consortium has the best business plan coupled with sufficient finances, as viewed by the administrators will get the gig......and there ain't a thing you or I can do about it. If lowe's consortium (if one exists) shows the administrators that his deal is the best one to clear the debts and keep the club viable then he will be the new king of the castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 When you ask someone to answer a question about their personal perspective about something, you are asking for their opinion I answered the question with my opinion. Sorry you dont understand that.. Alright smartypants, what, in your opinion, is preferable of the following two options a) bankruptcy & the end for SFC b) Lowe back in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 If it's Lowe or nothing then it will be Lowe, and there's nothing any of us fans can do to stop it bar threatening an all-out boycott ... I won't be buying tickets while Lowe's involved with the club in any capacity. I'm with you all the way on this. I'd certainly help to whip up a campaign to tell Lowe and anybody who thinks that they can get him in with any influence on the board, that they will face a massive boycott that would hopefully force them to think again. I'm happy to attend even in the third division if Lowe is nowhere to be seen, but the minute he came back, I would leave. If there are sufficient fans who thought along the same lines and the resultant fall in revenue forced the club out of existence, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Alright smartypants, what, in your opinion, is preferable of the following two options a) bankruptcy & the end for SFC b) Lowe back in charge And I repeat my answer : choosing b) will lead to a) anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 And I repeat my answer : choosing b) will lead to a) anyway. So, are you saying you would prefer a) now rather than b) & a glimmer of hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I cannot sit through another season like this. I'm getting on a bit and there's a long list of things that I would like to do whilst there is still time and watching whilst some pompous misguided egotist destroy a football club is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 (edited) Seriously, though this season I think planning went of the window it was reactionary 'bush fire fighting' and no time for anything else. The intervening Loweless years I think we planned to much for the present, IMO blowing budgets and caution and forgot about the long term stability of the club. Bottom line we ran out of patience. And there was me thinking the Revolutionary Coaching Set Up was being trumpeted as the first step in a bright new future, a long term plan that would see Total Football and Style & Steel be the future of the Club:rolleyes::confused:. I just wonder what Lowe really meant when he said this was a long term plan (he wasn't lying was he??? You may have to confer to one of your other alter egos as you weren't posting around that time were you LMFAO). And of course at the AGM he thought things were already looking good with: "Building the foundation was always going to be the hardest part but we have achieved this":smt117 Bottom line is that some swallowed the bullsht. (you can say you didn't as you can blame Sundance or Flashman or whoever you were back then LOL) Edited 27 April, 2009 by um pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 If Lowe does come back, then in my eyes we would cease to exist anyway. Yep! If Lowe is back next season we will be down to gates of about 6k, and probably end up going under anyway. I would rather be in The Conference South than have Lowe back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 (edited) True enough and its all relative, If all it takes is a second to score a goal that could define your season then 90 minutes is a very long time in football. Seriously, though this season I think planning went of the window it was reactionary 'bush fire fighting' and no time for anything else. The intervening Loweless years I think we planned to much for the present, IMO blowing budgets and caution and forgot about the long term stability of the club. Bottom line we ran out of patience. but we planned to much in the first season down when we should have really gone for it, if we did not achieve promotion in year one we still had the parachute payment in year two when belts could have been tightened. the other issue is so much concentration on long term planning ie the academy etc only benefits other clubs on the pitch because we never utilised the cash to improve our first team only the squad Lowe seems to have been happy to settle for CCC football Edited 27 April, 2009 by 70's Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 but we planned to much in the first season down when we should have really gone for it, if we did not achieve promotion in year one we still had the parachute payment in year two when belts could have been tightened. Lowe seems to have been happy to settle for CCC football I'd hate to see Lowe's "Bad Plans" when you consider that his "Good Plan" has resulted in two relegatons, administration and a possible -25 points for the future!!!! He was a bounder that Mr Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I'd hate to see Lowe's "Bad Plans" when you consider that his "Good Plan" has resulted in two relegatons, administration and a possible -25 points for the future!!!! He was a bounder that Mr Lowe. just think how bad it would have been if he had made a mistake in his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 just think how bad it would have been if he had made a mistake in his job Imagine that!!!!!!! I suppose we got off lightly with all his successes, it could have been REALLY bad had he not pulled it off:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Quote: Originally Posted by alpine_saint And I repeat my answer : choosing b) will lead to a) anyway. So, are you saying you would prefer a) now rather than b) & a glimmer of hope And yet again you fail to answer a direct question. What a surprise (yawn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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