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david in sweden

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eelpie

eelpie

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so if we are in danger of folding, which we truly are, and the only saviour to come forward was Lowe, would he be "accepted" back or would people prefer the club to disappear?

 

Lowe could never save SFC. He would take us remorselessly deeper into trouble. I would lose interest in any club he was involved in, and would prefer to support a splinter non-league Saints. In the long run, this team would improve and pass Lowe's club going in the opposite way - down, down, downwards. He could never attract a paying public into St Mary's.

The man is a pariah.

Micky

Micky

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I'm making a qualified judgement (from a biz/ PR´/ ownership perspective) and what's best for the club and in everyone's interest.

 

So ...I think that we'll have an announcement before the weekend.

 

I said in the first thread that I didn't have any inside / secret info.

If I'm wrong, I'll come back and apologise to anyone who thinks I'm unrealistic.

 

Tis not the thread Sir, 'tis the title. As Stan has pointed out - you are 'guessing', 'thinking out loud' perhaps - but your title (especially as you are shouting half of it) is misleading in that it suggest you are ITK - when in fact err you are (regretfully for your readers) not!

david in sweden

david in sweden

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You mean you're guessing.

 

I would like a takeover to happen this week too, and it would be nice to have it all sorted before the last game of the season.

 

I don't really get why this is best for the club, other than as soon as possible is best for the club.

 

 

To be fair Stan,

you not the only one to say I'm " guessing." ..but I prefer to think of it as a qualified judgment - just like buying the right shares at the right time.. Making a business decision about the future. Call it a prediction if you like,

but I still can't think how I'd re-word the title.

 

I've been a fan for 50 years ...and worked in business for over 40. My life has been about making decisions at the right time.

It's a sort of game I play ..against myself.

 

If I'm right, then I'm pleased for everyone that it's settled.

The players (and Manager) are like employees waiting for redundancy notices so the sooner it's sorted before the media spotlight goes ...the better it'll feel during the summer break. To me, it's the next logical step.

 

If wrong, I'll apologise to people who think I've mislead them. AND I won't come back with a " I told you so " thread - if right.

wightman35

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This could be the ultimate "This Friday" story; the climax of a two year saga!The difference is that this time if there is no deal done, I'm afraid we will be busted.

 

Fingers crossed and it will be:D, rather than :mad:

 

Please may it not involve RL, GA, ETC.

eurosaint

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Surely not on a friday!!! can anyone confirm if we really have 8 days!!! has Mr Fry said so?

As the season finishes on Sunday and we have no further income till August (ST sales would be dependent on having a club in the 1st place!) then 8 days seems logical, no ?

thorpie the sinner

thorpie the sinner

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As the season finishes on Sunday and we have no further income till August (ST sales would be dependent on having a club in the 1st place!) then 8 days seems logical, no ?

 

Agree! I just wonder after 8 days then if we will be counting down!! I mean, will it be midday on Tues 5th may???

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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But he also said "So the season could end on a high after all!"

 

I'm pretty confused. Rescue plan sounds like the despairing words of a consortium who don't have enough money. Is it a rescue plan until the people with the real money take over? I'm interested to know what this rescue plan entails.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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But he also said "So the season could end on a high after all!"

 

 

Lowe coming back for a third time would NOT be ending the season on a high

 

Nor would a "Cheapo" mop up operation which leaves us with nothing left to REBUILD

 

Sorry, but for me, unless it's a Big Name, Big Money Takeover, then it will mean we will forever be in the Third Tier of UK Fooball forever, or worse

krissyboy31

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I'm pretty confused. Rescue plan sounds like the despairing words of a consortium who don't have enough money. Is it a rescue plan until the people with the real money take over? I'm interested to know what this rescue plan entails.

 

It could be a plan to keep the FC in business, to enable the new buyers enough time to dot the i's and cross the t's?

miserableoldgit

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Well being a "glass half full" sort of person, I am assuming that as the club is liable to go out of existence within the next few days, a new buyer would be rescueing us. Wouldn`t he? Probably just a turn of phrase...probably.....I expect.....isn`t it?

Gemmel

Gemmel

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Sorry, but for me, unless it's a Big Name, Big Money Takeover, then it will mean we will forever be in the Third Tier of UK Fooball forever, or worse

 

I disagree. The PA saga all wet our lips, as to getting a multi billionare owner and that we could do a Chelsea. But it isn't going to happen and even before administration, i had come round to just wanting a group of decent businessmen, to pool their resources, cut our cloth accordingly and run the club.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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Well being a "glass half full" sort of person, I am assuming that as the club is liable to go out of existence within the next few days, a new buyer would be rescueing us. Wouldn`t he? Probably just a turn of phrase...probably.....I expect.....isn`t it?

 

Possibly ...... but the way it's phrased, it looks like a CHEAPO Option ...... which is a bit different from .... "New Owners of Saints Plan Major New Investment to Get Saints Back to the Premiership "

 

..... " Rescue Plan" seems just like an Elastoplast Bandage IMHO

John B

John B

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I disagree. The PA saga all wet our lips, as to getting a multi billionare owner and that we could do a Chelsea. But it isn't going to happen and even before administration, i had come round to just wanting a group of decent businessmen, to pool their resources, cut our cloth accordingly and run the club.

 

Me too like it was before the Greedy Premier League was formed

miserableoldgit

miserableoldgit

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Possibly ...... but the way it's phrased, it looks like a CHEAPO Option ...... which is a bit different from .... "New Owners of Saints Plan Major New Investment to Get Saints Back to the Premiership "

 

..... " Rescue Plan" seems just like an Elastoplast Bandage IMHO

TBF it was almost a throwaway line at the end of the report about Saturday so it may not have a direct quote from Fry. It may have been journalist-speak. Bottom line is that we won`t really know until it all unfolds.

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Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Tony Husband said on Solent on Sat that Fry had told him we would probably find out the indentity of (at least one) bidder at some point this week.

 

South Today basically said the same tonight, things are moving forward and this week will be key.

Golac's Cunning Stunts

Golac's Cunning Stunts

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Some sobering thoughts from a Leeds Fan copy and pasted from 606. I think a lot of the post rings true:

 

Dear Saints Fans

 

As a Leeds supporter who went through something similar two summers ago, all I can do besides sympathise is let you in on what to expect going forward.

 

Firstly, the "buyers" who are circling to take over your club. Well, they will have to come up with what you owe HMRC in taxes in order to avoid an extra 15 points deduction. Truth is, as it stands, you will start next season minus 25 points if you are taken over, because there is no rational way to come out of administration except to pay off the debts, meaning the new owners need to stump up £24-million just for that, and then have a few more million available to run the club successfully. Being in Lge 1 means you are not that attractive a business proposition anymore, and with anything from a minus 10 to minus 25 penalty hanging over you, buyers are going to be very cautious and reluctant.

 

Secondly, forget about "doing a Leicester". When the Foxes came down, they weren't bust, had no points penalty and kept their squad. The Chairman also allowed them to add to it, so they were able to stroll this division. Saints, on the other hand, are in admin, and so your players are the easiest assets to sell. The wage bill will also be dramatically reduced, so expect to be signing some very average free transfers and loanees. That is the way when you drop to this level, have no cash and sit with a points deduction. It will be difficult to attract good players to St Mary's.

 

Thirdly, the clubs in Lge 1 will want to beat you so badly it hurts. Every team, whether they are top or bottom, will play out of their skins when you face them. Saints will be a big scalp for them, and they will absolutely play until they drop to beat you. Expect to be playing in 46 cup finals next season.

 

Lastly, you are now at the mercy of predator buyers, and if you thought Lowe was bad, wait until you see who steps forward to make a bid now. When Bates bought Leeds back, the other so-called interested parties never ever put money on the table, instead electing to wage their buying campaigns through the media, and we were left frustrated as lots of verbals were exchanged, but never the big bucks that were promised.

 

So Saints fans, hang on tight, because its going to get harder before it gets easier. By next season you should have new owners, and you better pray they are in it for the club. You will definitely have a new team, and while you're on your knees ask the big guy if he can at least ensure you have a few decent players.

 

Good luck for next season, and I can honestly say I hope we don't have to play you. Most importantly, you have to now stick together and stand by your club. You are all they've got.

 

Marching On Together

Justin C

Justin C

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Some sobering thoughts from a Leeds Fan copy and pasted from 606. I think a lot of the post rings true:

 

Dear Saints Fans

 

As a Leeds supporter who went through something similar two summers ago, all I can do besides sympathise is let you in on what to expect going forward.

 

Firstly, the "buyers" who are circling to take over your club. Well, they will have to come up with what you owe HMRC in taxes in order to avoid an extra 15 points deduction. Truth is, as it stands, you will start next season minus 25 points if you are taken over, because there is no rational way to come out of administration except to pay off the debts, meaning the new owners need to stump up £24-million just for that, and then have a few more million available to run the club successfully. Being in Lge 1 means you are not that attractive a business proposition anymore, and with anything from a minus 10 to minus 25 penalty hanging over you, buyers are going to be very cautious and reluctant.

 

Secondly, forget about "doing a Leicester". When the Foxes came down, they weren't bust, had no points penalty and kept their squad. The Chairman also allowed them to add to it, so they were able to stroll this division. Saints, on the other hand, are in admin, and so your players are the easiest assets to sell. The wage bill will also be dramatically reduced, so expect to be signing some very average free transfers and loanees. That is the way when you drop to this level, have no cash and sit with a points deduction. It will be difficult to attract good players to St Mary's.

 

Thirdly, the clubs in Lge 1 will want to beat you so badly it hurts. Every team, whether they are top or bottom, will play out of their skins when you face them. Saints will be a big scalp for them, and they will absolutely play until they drop to beat you. Expect to be playing in 46 cup finals next season.

 

Lastly, you are now at the mercy of predator buyers, and if you thought Lowe was bad, wait until you see who steps forward to make a bid now. When Bates bought Leeds back, the other so-called interested parties never ever put money on the table, instead electing to wage their buying campaigns through the media, and we were left frustrated as lots of verbals were exchanged, but never the big bucks that were promised.

 

So Saints fans, hang on tight, because its going to get harder before it gets easier. By next season you should have new owners, and you better pray they are in it for the club. You will definitely have a new team, and while you're on your knees ask the big guy if he can at least ensure you have a few decent players.

 

Good luck for next season, and I can honestly say I hope we don't have to play you. Most importantly, you have to now stick together and stand by your club. You are all they've got.

 

Marching On Together

 

Good post, a lot of sense spoken.

shurlock

shurlock

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********- every team wants to beat leeds because they are arrogant c**ts; for scalps like us, teams will park the proverbial team on the six yard box and look to nick a 1-0 on the break.

Sussex Saint

Sussex Saint

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Yikes - that Leeds bit is scary as hell....!!!

 

Leeds had debts of £82 million so they had an even bigger hill to climb than we do. Even so we're in for a rough ride in league 1 assuming a buyer comes forward in time..

Master Bates

Master Bates

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When Bates bought Leeds back' date=' the other so-called interested parties never ever put money on the table, instead electing to wage their buying campaigns through the media, and we were left frustrated as lots of verbals were exchanged, but never the big bucks that were promised.[/quote']

 

Yeah, i'm sorry about that.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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League One didn`t scare Leicester this season, and they would be considered a big scalp I suspect.

 

 

Mind you, they had a good Manager, and some decent players to start with ....

Webby

Webby

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It's agonizing not knowing what's happening. Does Fry need to interview EVERY interested party? How does he filter out the timewasters? This would all take some time, but I hope, from what's been revealed so far, that a deal will unfold this week/weekend.

 

If so, with new owners and potential new management staff (what will happen to Killer?) we'll be ready for the new season with some fresh optimism.

DT

DT

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Lol! That should be the Echo's advertising slogan.

Echo is right - it is just the same story that has run for the past God-knows how long. Another echo every day...

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