Redondo Saint Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Shame on those 'fans' that alllow politics to influence their attendance. This team are worthy of support by their commitment and work rate. Oh, and by the sound of it, bloody good to watch. Can you imagine this scenario without the changes - on and off the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Shame on those 'fans' that alllow politics to influence their attendance. This team are worthy of support by their commitment and work rate. Oh, and by the sound of it, bloody good to watch. Can you imagine this scenario without the changes - on and off the pitch? I must have missed something! Who is boycotting and why???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I must have missed something! Who is boycotting and why???? The "I won`t go whilst Rupert Lowe is there" brigade. After tonights game - more fool them I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Do the boys really deserve them when some fans cant put politics aside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Best tenner I have spent in years, seriously. Loved it. Bring on Man Utd. Great listening to Portaloo and Cork on the radio on the way home. There is obviously a very special feeling around the club at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Saint Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I dont agree with people staying away just because of RL but they are entitled to their view. However, they are missing out on some awesome football. Too early to get carried away but there were a lot big smiles on people's faces walking out of there tonight. I'd like to see the boys get the support they deserve for the effort they put in and pride they are showing when they wear the shirt. Something that appeared to be lacking at times over the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Its a real pity some people feel that way, but that is their choice. I cant understand it myself as you go to support Southampton Football Club not the manager, the chairman, the board of directors but SFC and whatever 11 players put on the shirt. It was good coming out the ground tonight hearing all the positive comments and actually hearing people say well if they play like that I want to come again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 on the small offchance we do go up, it will be interesting to see if those fans change their tune then, will they still hate Lowe if he manages to mastermind our return to the premiership, because he certainly seems to be on the right track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I have posted this before - and let me say that I am not a big supporter of RL - but the worst time in all my years supporting Saints was during the Branfoot "Reign of Terror". He very nearly drove me out but I thought "sod it" - he is not going to stop me going, I will be here long after he has gone. It was an act of defiance. Its the same with Lowe. He will not stop me supporting the team that I have loved for over 50 years. I hope to be here when he is gone. Whilst a lot of critisism can be levelled at him for what went on in the past, you have to say that he is doing what needs to be done to save our club (yes and with it his own shares etc) and give us a glimmer of hope. I know that we will get the usual "it`s all his fault in the first place" posts but it is history. We are were we are NOW. Things need to be done NOW for the future. We have to get on with it and hopefully enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron 09 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Its a real pity some people feel that way, but that is their choice. I cant understand it myself as you go to support Southampton Football Club not the manager, the chairman, the board of directors but SFC and whatever 11 players put on the shirt. It was good coming out the ground tonight hearing all the positive comments and actually hearing people say well if they play like that I want to come again. I have no time for Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde - however in order for Rupert Lowe to fail - we will be wanting SFC to fail I have just got home from spending a fantastic evening watching a team that wanted to play for one another, had pride in wearing a Southampton shirt and were joy to watch. Many times over the last three years I have come home from matches shaking my head trying to think of one Southampton player that had had a good game. We were in the wilderness. We have moved on and we have to forget about all that has gone before - we should now support a team that deserves our support and they will play the better for it. The crowd tonight was very poor at about 13,000 but we saw the best team performance we have seen in years. Congratulation Jan and to your team of budding stars - long may it continue - you have won me over. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 on the small offchance we do go up, it will be interesting to see if those fans change their tune then, will they still hate Lowe if he manages to mastermind our return to the premiership, because he certainly seems to be on the right track Rupert Lowe certainly has a history that isn't completely positive at Saints. He has made mistakes, the biggest of which is so obvious I won't bother to spell it out. But if that mistake is undone, I'm almost certain those that won't go to St Marys because his team are in place will forgive him for his past errors. If those supporters can't forgive then they are the only ones who are actually suffering. I used to be a fan of Lowe, but hearing his methods and how he treated people put me off the man. His big mistake was just the icing on the cake. He has a certain way about him which I will never be able to completely come to terms with, but if the Club is going in the right direction, and Saints are ultimately solvent and successful, then I have to give him my support and the benefit of the doubt along the way. Anything else has to be head-in-the-sand behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Rupert Lowe certainly has a history that isn't completely positive at Saints. He has made mistakes, the biggest of which is so obvious I won't bother to spell it out. But if that mistake is undone, I'm almost certain those that won't go to St Marys because his team are in place will forgive him for his past errors. If those supporters can't forgive then they are the only ones who are actually suffering. I used to be a fan of Lowe, but hearing his methods and how he treated people put me off the man. His big mistake was just the icing on the cake. He has a certain way about him which I will never be able to completely come to terms with, but if the Club is going in the right direction, and Saints are ultimately solvent and successful, then I have to give him my support and the benefit of the doubt along the way. Anything else has to be head-in-the-sand behaviour. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Shame on those 'fans' that alllow politics to influence their attendance. This team are worthy of support by their commitment and work rate. Oh, and by the sound of it, bloody good to watch. Can you imagine this scenario without the changes - on and off the pitch? What a load of TOSH...its every persons right to decide how and where they spend their money. Comments like this are just stupidly over the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 What a load of TOSH...its every persons right to decide how and where they spend their money. Comments like this are just stupidly over the top More so than "I will never go to SMS while Lowe is there"?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Most people weren't boycotting today, they just couldn't be bothered. I happened to be working. I'd rather make some money which I could spend on an away league game later in the season than just blow it on a league cup game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Saint Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 What a load of TOSH...its every persons right to decide how and where they spend their money. Comments like this are just stupidly over the top 'Stupidly over the top' imo would be saying you'll never go again with Lowe in charge. Forget all that, support the club, the quality young players who are offering better entertainment then I've seen in a long, long, time and lets get a bit of unity and passion back into the club we all love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 What a load of TOSH...its every persons right to decide how and where they spend their money. I agree with that, but by choosing not to go they show themselves to be petty and put a personal prejudice over supporting the first team. Those sort of people are not true fans. It is their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 It the choices people make. We may not agree with them but it is their choice. Some of my best mates won't go to home games at the moment but as say such fantastic football at Derby and a team trying their very best at Cardiff they are no thinking maybe the current regime have got it right after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hacienda Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 This young team are playing with a verve and elan that we, as Saints fans, have been waiting for for a long, long time. Because of that they really do deserve my/our support. I said I'd near set foot in SMS again with Lowe back at the helm but these young lionhearts have done something I didn't believe possible, they've made me believe and I'll be buying tickets for my son and I for Saturday. It may all end in tears but these youngsters deserve all of us geting behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 This young team are playing with a verve and elan that we, as Saints fans, have been waiting for for a long, long time. Because of that they really do deserve my/our support. I said I'd near set foot in SMS again with Lowe back at the helm but these young lionhearts have done something I didn't believe possible, they've made me believe and I'll be buying tickets for my son and I for Saturday. It may all end in tears but these youngsters deserve all of us geting behind them. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Shame on those 'fans' that alllow politics to influence their attendance. This team are worthy of support by their commitment and work rate. Oh, and by the sound of it, bloody good to watch. Can you imagine this scenario without the changes - on and off the pitch? Their choice - and their loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 This young team are playing with a verve and elan that we, as Saints fans, have been waiting for for a long, long time. Because of that they really do deserve my/our support. I said I'd near set foot in SMS again with Lowe back at the helm but these young lionhearts have done something I didn't believe possible, they've made me believe and I'll be buying tickets for my son and I for Saturday. It may all end in tears but these youngsters deserve all of us geting behind them. They will also need your support when they have a blip and things don't go quite aswell. But fair play to you in changing your stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Tbh the only reason I didnt go was down to the price, waste of money for a pointless game regardless of how well we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 This young team are playing with a verve and elan that we, as Saints fans, have been waiting for for a long, long time. Because of that they really do deserve my/our support. I said I'd near set foot in SMS again with Lowe back at the helm but these young lionhearts have done something I didn't believe possible, they've made me believe and I'll be buying tickets for my son and I for Saturday. It may all end in tears but these youngsters deserve all of us geting behind them. Good man, pleased to hear that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 This young team are playing with a verve and elan that we, as Saints fans, have been waiting for for a long, long time. Because of that they really do deserve my/our support. I said I'd near set foot in SMS again with Lowe back at the helm but these young lionhearts have done something I didn't believe possible, they've made me believe and I'll be buying tickets for my son and I for Saturday. It may all end in tears but these youngsters deserve all of us geting behind them. I get a feeling you'll be the first of many. But glad to hear. And how did you manage to explain not going to home games to the nipper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Tbh the only reason I didnt go was down to the price, waste of money for a pointless game regardless of how well we play. £8 certainly was a lot, I'll give you that. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I said I'd near set foot in SMS again with Lowe back at the helm but these young lionhearts have done something I didn't believe possible, they've made me believe and I'll be buying tickets for my son and I for Saturday. It may all end in tears but these youngsters deserve all of us geting behind them. I'm glad you have shifted position and hope, irrespective of the result, will return again and again because as you rightly point out our team deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I do not like or trust Lowe but we have except he is back be it short or long term. I like a lot of people have said why the hell should my feelings about the man spoil my entertainment and my love for SFC, I forget he is there when watching the quality that was on display last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2008 What a load of TOSH...its every persons right to decide how and where they spend their money. Comments like this are just stupidly over the top I quite agree, but you are clearly making the decision based on politics not financial. Frankly, SFC is better off without you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 If those fans who claim to be boycotting Lowe do not attend, he will say, "I told you I had to cut my cloth accordingly" and by not going they will actually be giving him all the evidence he needs to trim this club to the bone. Should we fill the ground every week, then there is ample opportunity to call him to account and less wriggle room for him to justify cost-cutting decisions based on a lack of supporter income. So by boycotting, all that happens is you strengthen Rupert's hold on the club... Which is madness. And like MOG says, this is MY club. Not Lowe's. And with any luck I'll outlive him by some margin (purely on genetic/age statistics, mind, not be virtue of any contract or anything...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I quite agree, but you are clearly making the decision based on politics not financial. Frankly, SFC is better off without you. As a 70 year old would YOU drive from Cheshire and back to watch THIS game ? Or would you save the money and go to a game where your support would be used to greater affect.? These generalised statements NEVER take into consideration Distance to travel...cost of getting there etc etc. Generalisations are not either helpfull nor sensible since you have no idea of each individuals circumstances, they also breed discord between supporters i.e. I am a better fan than... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 IMO I think its a poor excuse for not going. I can understand if people just said they didnt want to go as Saints are ****e etc. Personally I haven't renewed my season ticket due trying to save money over the year and was deluded by the dross of last season. So shall pick my games as and when I can. However IF people do feel so strongly about Lowe I guess the the advent of good football and seeing a young side progress will bring some 'fans' back eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/West Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 A couple more wins and they will soon be back. I think the kids have put a lot in, so now its the fans turn. (Not a fan of Lowe, just a fan of the Saints) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 As a 70 year old would YOU drive from Cheshire and back to watch THIS game ? Or would you save the money and go to a game where your support would be used to greater affect.? These generalised statements NEVER take into consideration Distance to travel...cost of getting there etc etc. Generalisations are not either helpfull nor sensible since you have no idea of each individuals circumstances, they also breed discord between supporters i.e. I am a better fan than... Can I congratulate you on using 'discord'. I like responses which improve the vocabulary of the messageboard classes. With regards to your specific circumstances, what the hell possessed you to live in Cheshire and not the glorious Hampshire countryside where I would expect to find someone who used the word 'discord'?? I mean, Beaulieu and Lymington are right posh you know...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 As a 70 year old would YOU drive from Cheshire and back to watch THIS game ? Generalisations are not either helpfull nor sensible since you have no idea of each individuals circumstances. Then you are not on a boycott, logistically you are unable to attend, that is far different to those who live in the town and refuse to go because of who sits in the chair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 If Lowe stays under his stone and keeps quiet the fans may return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 If Lowe stays under his stone and keeps quiet the fans may return Hmm, Rupert Lowe in shy, retiring attitude shocker... I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 IMO I think its a poor excuse for not going. I can understand if people just said they didnt want to go as Saints are ****e etc. Personally I haven't renewed my season ticket due trying to save money over the year and was deluded by the dross of last season. So shall pick my games as and when I can. However IF people do feel so strongly about Lowe I guess the the advent of good football and seeing a young side progress will bring some 'fans' back eventually. I don't think there is much of a boycott, with just a few making the sacrifice. Money is difficult for some at this present time, together with the worry of maintaining employment. The far greater number, are probably those who gave up last season, with the no hope dross we had to watch. Hopefully the next two televised games will give them food for thought and rekindle their appetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Thats fair enough, I guess its because Lowe divides so many of us that there is a perceived mass boycott - when in reality its a number of factors contributing to Saints low attendences at the moment as mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Shame on those 'fans' that alllow politics to influence their attendance. This team are worthy of support by their commitment and work rate. Oh, and by the sound of it, bloody good to watch. Can you imagine this scenario without the changes - on and off the pitch? Dont go at your peril..This team will put 6 past somebody soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Isn't Boycott where Glitter is hanging out these days?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Shame on those 'fans' that alllow politics to influence their attendance. This team are worthy of support by their commitment and work rate. Oh, and by the sound of it, bloody good to watch. Can you imagine this scenario without the changes - on and off the pitch? So you've not seen them play? Not very strong grounds for making this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2008 As a 70 year old would YOU drive from Cheshire and back to watch THIS game ? Or would you save the money and go to a game where your support would be used to greater affect.? These generalised statements NEVER take into consideration Distance to travel...cost of getting there etc etc. Generalisations are not either helpfull nor sensible since you have no idea of each individuals circumstances, they also breed discord between supporters i.e. I am a better fan than... You've missed my point. Distance preventing fans attending games is not the debate. I live in California and only make 4 or 5 games per season. The refusal to attend home games due to the board changes is the issue. Affording the cost of attendance is for each fan to decide, however, there appears to be some that refuse to support the team for another reason - something I find odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2008 So you've not seen them play? Not very strong grounds for making this post. Perhaps this thread is too difficult for you to grasp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 The "I won`t go whilst Rupert Lowe is there" brigade. After tonights game - more fool them I say. I wish they had said that in 2004 ! I won't go while Hoddle is there, they could be now watching Eastliegh and we would still be in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I wish they had said that in 2004 ! I won't go while Hoddle is there, they could be now watching Eastliegh and we would still be in the Premiership. I doubtit our team was rubbish when we went down and we fully deserved it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I wish they would take the likes of euell and skacel on their little boycott with them......the real fans are having fun it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 You've missed my point. Distance preventing fans attending games is not the debate. I live in California and only make 4 or 5 games per season. The refusal to attend home games due to the board changes is the issue. Affording the cost of attendance is for each fan to decide, however, there appears to be some that refuse to support the team for another reason - something I find odd. And I think you've missed the point of a lot of 'stay away' fans. For them it's not so much about the financial cost, more the 'moral' cost. If people can't accept who is running the club, who am I, you or anyone else to tell them how they should or shouldn't show their support [or otherwise] for THEIR club?? Everyone is allowed an opinion on who should play right back, so why deny people their opinion on who is in 'chair'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Perhaps this thread is too difficult for you to grasp? No not at all but feel free to carry on with your patronising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2008 And I think you've missed the point of a lot of 'stay away' fans. For them it's not so much about the financial cost, more the 'moral' cost. If people can't accept who is running the club, who am I, you or anyone else to tell them how they should or shouldn't show their support [or otherwise] for THEIR club?? Everyone is allowed an opinion on who should play right back, so why deny people their opinion on who is in 'chair'?? You're right. I don't get the point of the 'stay away' fans. Everyone's opinion is allowed, thankfully they are the minority. Leaving my golf club after 40 years because I don't like the Club Captain would not be something I would do - but we are all different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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