Mole Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Have the Trust told us how many PAID UP, OPTED IN members they have got yet? Come on, I know members of their board post on here/will be reading this thread. Nice simple question that I have been asking for a year. HOW MANY? If you don't want to answer, then please can you give a reason why you won't release your figure of PAID UP,OPTED IN members? I'll tell you why, because the figure is less than 50, probably less than 20, and if the club and the media knew this, you lot wouldn't get your mugs on TV and in the papers. 'largest supporter group' ? My arse.... 1) Do the Trust really have 838 members as it says on their website? What do the trust mean by member? Whenever someone joins the trust they effectively become a shareholder in the trust for life, what this effectively means is thats should the trust be wound up all assets would have to be distributed amongst all the Trust members, not just the current years members, or those members would need to vote on how they would be disposed, this is to safeguard if say the trust had no members that the committee couldnt wind up the trust and divee up the funds amongst themselves Active members are those that subsscribe every year, they have the benefit of being able to vote on issues and represented throughout that year and any benefits etc. Im sure someone will accuse me of spin on the figures, but I dont make the rules so the figures on the ssaints trust website are incorrect, there are actually around 1,000 members but only 400 membersfor season 2008/09 So those who left the Trust because they didn't want to support it i.e me, are automatically signed up to back it for life. What a joke. Therefore like it not Nick is using my ex membership to add weight to his opinion. I hope the club see through this sham and recognise that the Trust has 400 people that support it, NOT the figure they band about. The Trust is just another SISA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Pretty much what he told me yesterday. My answer to his question, any bid that would otherwise fail without assistance, gives an opportunity to ringfence and get a big slice of the influence. No influence - no deal. Influence means a large proportion of the board members. If the bidder couldn't stomach that it would be the end of their bid. I still cannot believe an investor who would likely be taking on massive risk would stomach a small bunch of fans with small risk a big part of the decision making.In fact it would be disasterous, we cannot agree on the best first team let alone a load of fans with differing priorities getting to vote.it has to be one vision only not a fudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I still cannot believe an investor (Investors/shareholder) who would likely be taking on massive risk would stomach a small bunch of fans (a small shareholder) with small risk a big part of the decision making.In fact it would be disasterous LOL LOL, we cannot agree on the best first team let alone a load of fans( Shareholders) with differing priorities getting to vote.it has to be one vision only not a fudge Sorry nick.......really lol sorry;) You crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Sorry nick.......really lol sorry;) You crack me up.Well you may find our predicament funny and perhaps in your business you would accept by putting 2/3's in you would give over 50% of power away to the smaller investor , well good luck to you but I suspect you wouldnt have a business or partners very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 (edited) I was starting to feel sorry for NI, then I read this.... "Having read some of the critiscisms from the past few days on the darkside, I will say that most of those posting by their comments have no idea about the trust and have never sort to find out, prefering to snipe away on internet forums, to be blunt this is the single contributory factor as why the Saints trust does not have the membership base it should have and why Rupert Lowe and other ex directors of this club have ridden rough shed over the club for the past decade or so, anyone who read the season ticket renewal form in March 2008 will know the logistics 25,000 Saints fans join the trust last March at £10 per head,= £250,000 Trust buys 1 million shares @25p per share = fans own approx 4% of the Club, this wouldhave swung the balance of power against Lowe should the fans have wished it. If this had happened three years ago when the trust formed, then the club would not be in the position that it is now. Do we want to repeat these mistakes, are we going to learn from them or are we going to sit around and squabble on internet message boards " I can give you loads of reasons why the trust doesnt have the fanbase you had hoped for, none of them would be that "we dont understand" or know little about the trust. If more people saw the trust for what it was, it wouldnt even have 400 members. Edited 23 April, 2009 by Marsdinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 OK well at least tonight's meeting can take place knowing that we are relegated because of the points deduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Well you may find our predicament funny and perhaps in your business you would accept by putting 2/3's in you would give over 50% of power away to the smaller investor , well good luck to you but I suspect you wouldnt have a business or partners very long. You missed it nick,and I thought you were the clever one. Stewpert had a little shareholding, but absolute power, I was pointing out your post, which amounted to the same thing......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I was starting to feel sorry for NI, then I read this.... "Having read some of the critiscisms from the past few days on the darkside, I will say that most of those posting by their comments have no idea about the trust and have never sort to find out, prefering to snipe away on internet forums, to be blunt this is the single contributory factor as why the Saints trust does not have the membership base it should have and why Rupert Lowe and other ex directors of this club have ridden rough shed over the club for the past decade or so, anyone who read the season ticket renewal form in March 2008 will know the logistics 25,000 Saints fans join the trust last March at £10 per head,= £250,000 Trust buys 1 million shares @25p per share = fans own approx 4% of the Club, this wouldhave swung the balance of power against Lowe should the fans have wished it. If this had happened three years ago when the trust formed, then the club would not be in the position that it is now. Do we want to repeat these mistakes, are we going to learn from them or are we going to sit around and squabble on internet message boards " I can give you loads of reasons why the trust doesnt have the fanbase you had hoped for, none of them would be that "we dont understand" or know little about the trust. If more people saw the trust for what it was, it wouldnt even have 400 members. Yes - I've got nothing personal against Nick but as a life long member (it would seem) who hasn't renewed this year the reason the Trust hasn't got more members is it all but vanished into the ether about two years ago. They don't even send out renewal letters or emails. As for the other point you highlighted, whether the Trust had 40 or 40000 members it wouldn't make one iota of difference to the way the club has been run into the ground financially. The Saints Trust was a good idea that lost it's way somewhere imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I still cannot believe an investor who would likely be taking on massive risk would stomach a small bunch of fans with small risk a big part of the decision making.In fact it would be disasterous, we cannot agree on the best first team let alone a load of fans with differing priorities getting to vote.it has to be one vision only not a fudge Non executive board, employ specialists and let them manage, no executive chairman. majority 2, quorum 5, board 7. No interference. Anyway like I said no influence no deal, it won't happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I can appreciate that many might have concerns over these initiatives or unanswered questions, that is only natural and part of the personal due diligence that we should all do before committing to anything. But is there really this continual need by many fans to constantly grip whinge laugh at and have a go at anyone or anything that ahs been attempted historically or now, so the Trust never took off as was hoped, does that diminish it as an idea or concept or should those who tried be victimised? FFS they are just fans trying to do their bit, sometimes it goes wrong, sometimes they are wrong, but the you cant criticise if you are not prepared to get involved yourself. If you have experience and skills that mean you can seriously recognise errors or mistakes why not offer them? it could only improve things. To me it seems some of you have personal issues with tha characters involved - teh only reason its teh same old same old is because its the same old same old prepared to get off tehir arses and do things - that stubborn refusal to give in to the criticism from fan most of it unjust - no wonder no new folk step forward if this is the abuse that they get for their efforts - If you dont like teh trust - join it and CHANGE IT. If you have questions or concerns aboyut these initiatives ASK them courteously, Derry has been trying to answer as many questions as he can despite the rudeness from some quarters... they are just trying to do their bit FFS Rant over....for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 You missed it nick,and I thought you were the clever one. Stewpert had a little shareholding, but absolute power, I was pointing out your post, which amounted to the same thing.........No I didnt miss it at all. The difference being he was part of the bigger part that is why he got control.Not a small part on its own trying to try and gain more power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I can appreciate that many might have concerns over these initiatives or unanswered questions, that is only natural and part of the personal due diligence that we should all do before committing to anything. But is there really this continual need by many fans to constantly grip whinge laugh at and have a go at anyone or anything that ahs been attempted historically or now, so the Trust never took off as was hoped, does that diminish it as an idea or concept or should those who tried be victimised? FFS they are just fans trying to do their bit, sometimes it goes wrong, sometimes they are wrong, but the you cant criticise if you are not prepared to get involved yourself. If you have experience and skills that mean you can seriously recognise errors or mistakes why not offer them? it could only improve things. To me it seems some of you have personal issues with tha characters involved - teh only reason its teh same old same old is because its the same old same old prepared to get off tehir arses and do things - that stubborn refusal to give in to the criticism from fan most of it unjust - no wonder no new folk step forward if this is the abuse that they get for their efforts - If you dont like teh trust - join it and CHANGE IT. If you have questions or concerns aboyut these initiatives ASK them courteously, Derry has been trying to answer as many questions as he can despite the rudeness from some quarters... they are just trying to do their bit FFS Rant over....for now. Thanks Frank, It's easy to expel hot air with the help of a keyboard. My view, I really couldn't care less about the criticism. I'm doing what I'm doing. If people start to hack me off I'll leave them to it and go and play golf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I'm sorry, it's all my fault the Saints Trust didn't work, and it is all my fault that Lowe came back and ruined the club. It had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Saints Trust have not actually represented their members on any single occasion and stayed quiet in the previous year leading up to administration. I take full responsibility. Sorry xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Derry I hear rumours you may want to buy Leon a beer tonight from all of us, no other info as to what it actually means but I'm sure it will be an interesting chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Derry I hear rumours you may want to buy Leon a beer tonight from all of us, no other info as to what it actually means but I'm sure it will be an interesting chat Subtitles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Subtitles? Did anyone you know go to the MOS dinner last night, who may have had a chat and wasn't completely monged and so not a reliable source. If so then maybe they heard some stories, but what I heard was a left over hangover & I sure as sh1t sherlock ain't going down no ITK road based on a mate of a mate who was p1ssed thinking he heard something. But if someone else heard it then derry should buy a beer that's is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Duncan thankyou for that almost statesmanslike post.You have won me over as you are prepared not to side but to unite behind the thing that is very important in ours lives. Your open criticism of some you have been in favour of does worry me a little as I wonder that they might have let your hopes down and may not be active in trying to bale us out.Am i wrong or is it just you are ably trying to unite the fans behind the banner Duncan because somebody who can be so vitriolic (forgive the criticism) to say these things is a step forward and make what you say more palletable for a lot of fans No not really Nick. I just think a clean sweep preferable as there are many who don't like LM and some who will never accept LC. I don't think Leon covered himself with glory when he was Chairman but I have also maintained out of the 3 - he was for me by far "the lesser of 3 evils" candidate. I hear (not from Leon) from a good source that it is only LC's cheques that are keeping the club going at the present - for all his faults his generosity is saving our bacon and for that I am most grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 No not really Nick. I just think a clean sweep preferable as there are many who don't like LM and some who will never accept LC. I don't think Leon covered himself with glory when he was Chairman but I have also maintained out of the 3 - he was for me by far "the lesser of 3 evils" candidate. I hear (not from Leon) from a good source that it is only LC's cheques that are keeping the club going at the present - for all his faults his generosity is saving our bacon and for that I am most grateful. FF I want the club to have a fresh start and allow us to rebuild and unfortunately because of his previous guise and I am sure old grudges that would keep coming out, Leon has to take a backseat in our future I also expect we have polar opposite mates who hear things so I heard something like you this afternoon and I think we may owe him more than we could ever repay him Respect is earnt, never given, if what I hear and you indicate is true, then i will lead the apologies for calling him a numpty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 FF I want the club to have a fresh start and allow us to rebuild and unfortunately because of his previous guise and I am sure old grudges that would keep coming out, Leon has to take a backseat in our future I also expect we have polar opposite mates who hear things so I heard something like you this afternoon and I think we may owe him more than we could ever repay him Respect is earnt, never given, if what I hear and you indicate is true, then i will lead the apologies for calling him a numpty Yea, I am no longer on his Xmas card list but like you said fair play to him as it sounds like he has quite literally kept this club afloat over these last desperate weeks. I also "hear" all he wants at the most is a backseat where he can enjoy being a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I'm sorry, it's all my fault the Saints Trust didn't work, and it is all my fault that Lowe came back and ruined the club. It had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Saints Trust have not actually represented their members on any single occasion and stayed quiet in the previous year leading up to administration. I take full responsibility. Sorry xx Please..Please they have organised some cracking quiz nights.........................apparently. Signed A Sniper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 (edited) No not really Nick. I just think a clean sweep preferable as there are many who don't like LM and some who will never accept LC. I don't think Leon covered himself with glory when he was Chairman but I have also maintained out of the 3 - he was for me by far "the lesser of 3 evils" candidate. I hear (not from Leon) from a good source that it is only LC's cheques that are keeping the club going at the present - for all his faults his generosity is saving our bacon and for that I am most grateful. I was watching the local news and saw Clive Foley speak, to me he has no baggage from the past (as far as Im aware) he speaks well and as I remember him selling ice creams around the pitch when I was a kid he gets my vote as a fans leader. Edited 23 April, 2009 by OldNick things change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I was watching the local news and saw Clive Foley speak, to me he has no baggage from the past (as far as Im aware) he speaks well and as I remember him selling ice creams around the pitch when I was a kid he gets my vote as a fans leader. LC has gained great respect from me as well, not that he cares of course. Leon Crouch !!!!! I have just heard that buffon being interveiwed on Radio 5 !!! He admitted Southampton had set the two companies up to avoid any points reduction !! **** me why cant he keep his mouth shut !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Leon Crouch !!!!! I have just heard that buffon being interveiwed on Radio 5 !!! He admitted Southampton had set the two companies up to avoid any points reduction !! **** me why cant he keep his mouth shut !!! you are kidding me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Leon Crouch !!!!! I have just heard that buffon being interveiwed on Radio 5 !!! He admitted Southampton had set the two companies up to avoid any points reduction !! **** me why cant he keep his mouth shut !!! What's wrong with him telling the truth? We've either broken a Football League rule or we haven't. Saying that we spotted a loophole and did something about it doesn't alter the actual circumstances. IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 What's wrong with him telling the truth? We've either broken a Football League rule or we haven't. Saying that we spotted a loophole and did something about it doesn't alter the actual circumstances. IMHO of course. Not exactly going to help our appeal though is it.Particularly when Brian Marwhinney (sp?) was on live next.I know I am not a fan but I thought Crouch made himself and the club look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I heard the interview and Crouch came across like a total arse, with the presenter shooting eight foot holes in his "seperate entity" story. He was a complete embarrassment. We deserve the 10 point penalty, lets just swallow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I heard the interview and Crouch came across like a total arse, with the presenter shooting eight foot holes in his "seperate entity" story. He was a complete embarrassment. We deserve the 10 point penalty, lets just swallow it. Agree 100% - let's face facts and move on rather than clinging to these worn out fantasies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I heard the interview and Crouch came across like a total arse, with the presenter shooting eight foot holes in his "seperate entity" story. He was a complete embarrassment. We deserve the 10 point penalty, lets just swallow it.I dont deserve it. If the rules are consistantly applied then its fine but as always it is different for different people Derby got away with it and went on to knock us out of the playoffs, is that fair. Had they got their -10 and so not done so we may be now in the PL and not be administration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I dont deserve it. If the rules are consistantly applied then its fine but as always it is different for different people Derby got away with it and went on to knock us out of the playoffs, is that fair. Had they got their -10 and so not done so we may be now in the PL and not be administration For the 148th time on here, when Derby went in to administration it was before the League introduced the points deduction (and it was a fair few years before they knocked us out in the play offs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 (edited) For the 148th time on here, when Derby went in to administration it was before the League introduced the points deduction (and it was a fair few years before they knocked us out in the play offs). I thought that was Leicester who missed it? Saints iwas under the impression were following Derby's route of avoiding the points deduction ps i know you are very particular are you sure it was the 148th time I want you to be accurate UM pps I dont doubt you are correct by the way Edited 23 April, 2009 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 We deserve the 10 point penalty, lets just swallow it. What an idiotic comment. If our lawyers say we can win this case of course we should fight the ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I thought that was Leicester who missed it? Saints iwas under the impression were following Derby's route of avoiding the points deduction ps i know you are very particular are you sure it was the 148th time I want you to be accurate UM Points deductins were never on the radar when Leicester and other clubs started going in to administration and walking away from their debts. Derby on the other hand went into administration in October 2003 and whilst the League had announced that points would be deducted a month earlier, it was to be introduced in from the following season onwards (i.e. only applicable if teams went into administration in the 2004/5 season and onwards). http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article1163199.ece It was 148 BTW, I don't make those mistakes;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 April, 2009 I was watching the local news and saw Clive Foley speak, to me he has no baggage from the past (as far as Im aware) he speaks well and as I remember him selling ice creams around the pitch when I was a kid he gets my vote as a fans leader. Nick, If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. The meeting LM, MC, LC, Alan Whitehead (sensible), two councillors(sensible) Nick Illingsworth and another from the trust both sensible, Lee Marchant and Simon Richards from the Saints Aid, our group and SISA 4, The meeting itself was an absolute disgrace, however we learnt that the club has days to live and needs to raise £250,000 if is still going to be there in three weeks time. It is a basket case and needs to be kept going until one of the two buyers who are now in due diligence plus one more yet to show proof of funds. I wouldn't go to another meeting with any of the SISA group. I couldn't begin to describe it and if I tried you wouldn't believe me. I think the remainder will pull away and just leave them to rant amongst themselves. Your last remark is a leg pull, please tell me it is? If it isn't I'll arrange to have you sectioned in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Let me say now both Leon Crouch, who is doing more than everybody else put together to keep the club going, and Lawrie McMenemy are desperate. They had to be to sit through the crap tonight. If funds aren't raised we won't be going into administration, we will be wound up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Nick, If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. The meeting LM, MC, LC, Alan Whitehead (sensible), two councillors(sensible) Nick Illingsworth and another from the trust both sensible, Lee Marchant and Simon Richards from the Saints Aid, our group and SISA 4, The meeting itself was an absolute disgrace, however we learnt that the club has days to live and needs to raise £250,000 if is still going to be there in three weeks time. It is a basket case and needs to be kept going until one of the two buyers who are now in due diligence plus one more yet to show proof of funds. I wouldn't go to another meeting with any of the SISA group. I couldn't begin to describe it and if I tried you wouldn't believe me. I think the remainder will pull away and just leave them to rant amongst themselves. Your last remark is a leg pull, please tell me it is? If it isn't I'll arrange to have you sectioned in the morning. Oh please do, and i probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 the club has days to live and needs to raise £250,000 if is still going to be there in three weeks time. Tell someone to start selling season tickets pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 If funds aren't raised we won't be going into administration, we will be wound up. Season tickets.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Is there any way that either of the two bidders that are in due diligence at the moment can "donate" SFC £250k, if the situation is that perilous; otherwise they will have nothing to bid for !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Is there any way that either of the two bidders that are in due diligence at the moment can "donate" SFC £250k, if the situation is that perilous; otherwise they will have nothing to bid for !!! That's what has happened elsewhere, whereby in exchange for an "exclusive" period, potential bidders agree to stump up some cash to fund the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Tell someone to start selling season tickets pronto. I asked this question tonight....Apparently, the club cant sell STs because they cannot gaurantee that they can be fullfilled, either because there is literally no club, and also because new owners dont (strangely) neccessarily have to honour them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 That's what has happened elsewhere, whereby in exchange for an "exclusive" period, potential bidders agree to stump up some cash to fund the club. So if it not breaking the rules, someone (LM, LC???) should ask them. I have no idea who these bidders are, but even if they arent saints fans they still want something there to bid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Nick, If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. The meeting LM, MC, LC, Alan Whitehead (sensible), two councillors(sensible) Nick Illingsworth and another from the trust both sensible, Lee Marchant and Simon Richards from the Saints Aid, our group and SISA 4, The meeting itself was an absolute disgrace, however we learnt that the club has days to live and needs to raise £250,000 if is still going to be there in three weeks time. It is a basket case and needs to be kept going until one of the two buyers who are now in due diligence plus one more yet to show proof of funds. I wouldn't go to another meeting with any of the SISA group. I couldn't begin to describe it and if I tried you wouldn't believe me. I think the remainder will pull away and just leave them to rant amongst themselves. Your last remark is a leg pull, please tell me it is? If it isn't I'll arrange to have you sectioned in the morning. Where did this info come from?, were members of the admin team there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 So if it not breaking the rules, someone (LM, LC???) should ask them. I have no idea who these bidders are, but even if they arent saints fans they still want something there to bid for. Here's one example. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7190357.stm Maybe Derry can answer as a result of going along tonight, if we don't appeal what is the difference with the football club going into administration than what is happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Season tickets.... maybe the new buyers don't want ST monies to go to pay of creditors at this stage. Is there any reason why this could be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Nick Tell me your not serious? was watching the local news and saw Clive Foley speak, to me he has no baggage from the past (as far as Im aware) he speaks well and as I remember him selling ice creams around the pitch when I was a kid he gets my vote as a fans leader. Oh clive does have baggage from the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Here's one example. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7190357.stm Maybe Derry can answer as a result of going along tonight, if we don't appeal what is the difference with the football club going into administration than what is happening now. From what LM,LC, and MC said tonight, if THE FOOTBALL CLUB went into Administration, it would effectively fold immediately. Its not actually in a financial position to go into Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 and this is The Saints Trust blueprint for the future: The Business Plan will contain the following key elements: 1. Electronic Transaction System The introduction of a swipe card season ticket system providing the means for season ticket holders to obtain refunds on matches not attended, with the same promotional discounts offered by the club on specific match days. This will also provide significant marketing benefits for the club to develop, in particular with association with supporting transport partners. 2. Supporters Social Club The conversion of the Mike Channon Suite into a social club for season ticket members open seven days a week throughout the year - as well as match days, in order to fully utilise the revenue earning potential stadium and to provide the social forum for regular supporters. 3. Corporate governance by the FA It will seek to reduce the monopoly power of the Football Association in regard to its failure to regulate the board room structures of professional football league clubs according to the guidelines of the Higgs Report on corporate governance, their power over the terms and conditions of players contracts and their power over the pricing and marketing strategies and tactics of individual clubs. 4. Players Contracts It will seek to change the status of the trade unions representing contract football players and managers to a trade association, and introduce as salaried terms and conditions of employment (not salary levels) for its players as other employees and introduce a business based employee representation structure in regard to negotiation and consultation procedures. 5. Environmental Impact In the interests of progressing the Stern Report’s call for long term corporate governance policies to reduce carbon emissions, it will seek to incorporate in its long term business plan to develop new mainland and possibly water borne links to the stadium in consultation with transport operators and local authority bodies. It will also negotiate special discount terms for season ticket holders with transport operators (including domestic airlines) to encourage motorists to use public transport. http://www.saintstrust.co.uk/news.php?id=287 Can't think why no-one takes them seriously. What a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Season tickets.... Not allowed due liability if selling something and not able to deliver, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 April, 2009 Where did this info come from?, were members of the admin team there? It came from LC and LM but it was Mary Corbett who made the most telling comment. I gave a list of those present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 April, 2009 Share Posted 23 April, 2009 From what LM,LC, and MC said tonight, if THE FOOTBALL CLUB went into Administration, it would effectively fold immediately. Its not actually in a financial position to go into Admin Mark what are your thoughts of the evening with regard to SISA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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