Meeting Thurs 23rd with Trust, SISA, Saveoursaints, 2 MPs, LM and MC

[StuRomseySaint]

So are you just against those currently (and previously) running the Trust and their actions to date, or are you against the various principles involved, because from this post I don't really thing you have been clear? Additionally you seem to be confused and have contradicted yourself on a number of issues (notably regarding the involvement of the "common" fan).

 

I think many of your points are valid criticisms of the current (and previous) Boards of the Trust, but that's not to say they are valid of the concepts and principles involved. I'm sure there are mnay issues that would need to be resolved, but don't think you have really highlighted any major ones here.

 

I think there are some serious problems with regards funding (now and going forward) with such initiatives, but sadly your criticisms don't really seem to get past the point of having a moan about how things are currently (and previously) run (I'd liken it to having a moan about Lowe and therefore saying SFC will always be rubbish, cos it's rubbish with Lowe at the helm).

 

Cutting to the chase, I think you have provided a number of good reasons why the current board of The Trust might not be worthy of your support, but I have yet to see you come up with a decent argument as to why the concept of a Supporters Trust is unworkable. I think there are some very valid points/issues you could have mentioned, but you to date I don't think you have engaged with them.

 

I oppose the individuals running the trust, and believe they are in it for themselves and nobody else, I also do not agree with the concept of a fan on the board of Southampton FC.... that opinion could change if we were to become non-league.

 

I think Supporters clubs are a good thing, if ran in the right way.

 

I don't believe any one individual should have access to board meetings and discuss issues on behalf of their 'membership'

 

People are quick to hit back at me, during the last year, I have time and time again asked people to give me examples of how the Trust have represented their membership during that time.

 

I have also asked for them to prove they have 838 active members to represent.

 

I have also asked people to prove me wrong of my opinion that the Saints Trust board are in it for themselves.

 

MAYBE, and it is a massive MAYBE, if the Saints Trust was run by a group of people that were more interested in their members than themselves, then I would shut up and let them get on with it.

 

What do I think should be in place of a Trust?

 

- Open fans forums, possibly once a month, where all fans can attend.

 

- A dedicated customer care department.

 

That's all that is needed.

[swannymere]

I oppose the individuals running the trust, and believe they are in it for themselves and nobody else, I also do not agree with the concept of a fan on the board of Southampton FC.... that opinion could change if we were to become non-league.

 

I think Supporters clubs are a good thing, if ran in the right way.

 

I don't believe any one individual should have access to board meetings and discuss issues on behalf of their 'membership'

 

People are quick to hit back at me, during the last year, I have time and time again asked people to give me examples of how the Trust have represented their membership during that time.

 

I have also asked for them to prove they have 838 active members to represent.

 

I have also asked people to prove me wrong of my opinion that the Saints Trust board are in it for themselves.

 

MAYBE, and it is a massive MAYBE, if the Saints Trust was run by a group of people that were more interested in their members than themselves, then I would shut up and let them get on with it.

 

What do I think should be in place of a Trust?

 

- Open fans forums, possibly once a month, where all fans can attend.

 

- A dedicated customer care department.

 

That's all that is needed.

 

SRS is right, fan involvement in the day to day running of a 'professional' level football club is a recipe for disaster, having a fans representative with whom ideas can be discussed before they go live is probably a good idea -if you can find somebody who can keep their gob shut, isn't seeking personal advancement or simply somebody with an ego which in all honesty discounts 99.99% of football fans.

[derry]

SRS is right, fan involvement in the day to day running of a 'professional' level football club is a recipe for disaster, having a fans representative with whom ideas can be discussed before they go live is probably a good idea -if you can find somebody who can keep their gob shut, isn't seeking personal advancement or simply somebody with an ego which in all honesty discounts 99.99% of football fans.

 

Read my post at the top of this page it along with the other posts I made on the subject covers your concerns. Let me know if you agree.

[ItchenRob]

Apologies Rob I should have said the fans collectively and not you, there have been so many questions relating to players you might even call it the BWP syndrome as he is the one whose wages are continually mentioned.

 

I've edited it.

 

 

Cheers - I was probably being oversensitive anyway. Well done with all your efforts !

[MarkSFC]

Excellent post Mark - I agree 100%.

 

Thanks FF

[eelpie]

SRS is right, fan involvement in the day to day running of a 'professional' level football club is a recipe for disaster, having a fans representative with whom ideas can be discussed before they go live is probably a good idea -if you can find somebody who can keep their gob shut, isn't seeking personal advancement or simply somebody with an ego which in all honesty discounts 99.99% of football fans.

 

 

 

But weren't we complaining that Rupert was not a fan, and therefore had no right to be director of this club?