saints_is_the_south Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 From David Luker: about 8,500 so far. Was very busy yesterday, and just the same today. Difficult to predict what the final gate would be, as the walk-up for such games can be very unpredictable. We do, however, have many collections and we would advise all supporters to get here as early as possible to save queuing time. David Luker Head of Supporter Services Hopefully it will get up to atleast 10k, can't see much more than that. Disappointing given the low ticket prices, can't imagine Birmingham are bringing many though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 8,500 is awful really, no matter what type of game it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Thats a shame, the missing 10k, will miss a treat if they play like they did on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 It's a midweek game in a competition most people couldn't give a rats about. 15k would be exceptionally good going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Pretty embarrassing really (But not surprising). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike666 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 To be fair it just shows the amount of 'paper fans' this club once had. When we were in the premiership you could guarantee 30k + for a prem game and about 22k+ for a cup game. If (when) we do get back to the premiership they’ll all come crawling back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 To be fair it just shows the amount of 'paper fans' this club once had. When we were in the premiership you could guarantee 30k + for a prem game and about 22k+ for a cup game. If (when) we do get back to the premiership they’ll all come crawling back. You going tonight then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 To be fair it just shows the amount of 'paper fans' this club once had. When we were in the premiership you could guarantee 30k + for a prem game and about 22k+ for a cup game. If (when) we do get back to the premiership they’ll all come crawling back. I have a ST but i'm not going tonight. I find it hard to get excited about this competition unless we're in the quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I wouldnt normally go to this game, and despite having had numerous season tickets have never been to a Carling/League cup game before. However, due to the price and way the team is playing I didnt want to miss out. At the end of the day its a tenner to see the team you love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 To be fair it just shows the amount of 'paper fans' this club once had. When we were in the premiership you could guarantee 30k + for a prem game and about 22k+ for a cup game. If (when) we do get back to the premiership they’ll all come crawling back. So no different to just about every other club in the country then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Didn't we get over 20k for a game at a similar stage of the competition last year? Anything around 10K would be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Didn't we get over 20k for a game at a similar stage of the competition last year? Anything around 10K would be terrible. Nope, two years ago the tickets were £5 each V Yeovil and we sold 22,000. Kids were also £1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Didn't we get over 20k for a game at a similar stage of the competition last year? Anything around 10K would be terrible. It was the year before against Yeovil when we had about 20k. If anyone on here is 50/50 about going tonight, you definitely should after we played so well on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Hopefully there will be a decent walk up. I think it would have been wiser to not be raising the prices on match day, infact i'd have kept it at £8 & £3 for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I have a ST but i'm not going tonight. I find it hard to get excited about this competition unless we're in the quarters. Plus i'm working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Thats pretty poor. I expect about 11,000 but a fairly big attendance for blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike666 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 You going tonight then? Yes I am and I have a 320 mile round trip to get there and back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Thats pretty poor. I expect about 11,000 but a fairly big attendance for blackpool. I am going tonight, but can't go on Saturday. I always was an awkward bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike666 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 So no different to just about every other club in the country then? Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 The low attendence is much more to do with how far the League Cup has fallen from grace in recent times more than a reflection on the club, fans, etc. If anyone thinks it'll be a poor show if we 'only' get 10k to the game then take a look at how many Palace got for their home match in the last round, 3,000!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Thats pretty poor. I expect about 11,000 but a fairly big attendance for blackpool. Not too sure about Blackpool considering it's on Sky & it's a crap kick off time, think we may well see the lowest league attendance at SMS. Hope i'm wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike666 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 The low attendence is much more to do with how far the League Cup has fallen from grace in recent times more than a reflection on the club, fans, etc. If anyone thinks it'll be a poor show if we 'only' get 10k to the game then take a look at how many Palace got for their home match in the last round, 3,000!! Good point I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 All our usual suspects will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 The low attendence is much more to do with how far the League Cup has fallen from grace in recent times more than a reflection on the club, fans, etc. If anyone thinks it'll be a poor show if we 'only' get 10k to the game then take a look at how many Palace got for their home match in the last round, 3,000!! Fair point. Ipswich had less than 1500 for their 1st round game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Out of 13 championship teams at home only 3 got more than 10k for the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 There are two factors in play regarding the poor attendances in the Carling Cup this season. Firstly, there are a number of Championship teams who are using the competition to either experiment or give match practice to a number of fringe players. Fans (quite rightly, in my opinion) regard that as not taking the competition seriously enough, and therefore think it's not really worth shelling out for tickets when it's effectively going to be a reserve team game. Secondly, given the current economic climate, the vast majority of people are having to cut back on their non-essential spending. Given the choice of a league game where you can pretty much guarantee both teams will field their best available line-up or a cup game where one or both sides might change all 11 players to give people a game, it's not hard to see which one they'd choose, even though the price is higher for the league game. If I was in the position where I had to choose one or the other but not both, I'd go to the league game. If the Premier League teams were to start taking the competition more seriously, that would filter down to the better teams in the Championship. That would probably resurrect the attendances to a certain extent, but the overall cost of going to games on a regular basis is, in my opinion, the main problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 All our usual suspects will be there TALKIN ABOUT ME AGAIN BOY !:badgrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 All our usual suspects will be there TALKIN ABOUT ME AGAIN BOY !:badgrin: Cap and fit Stan cap and fit.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Yes I am and I have a 320 mile round trip to get there and back! Thats certainly some dedication for you, good on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 what are the actual on the night prices tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 For what it's worth, here are the attendances from Round 1: Coventry 3-1 Aldershot - 9293 Forest 4-0 Morecambe - 4030 Sheff United 3-1 Port Vale - 7694 Wycombe 0-4 Birmingham - 2735 Bournemouth 1-2 Cardiff - 3399 Brighton 4-0 Barnet - 2571 Bristol City 2-1 Peterborough - 5684 Bury 0-2 Burnley - 4276 Crystal Palace 2-1 Hereford - 3094 Charlton 0-1 Yeovil - 6239 Chester 2-5 Leeds - 3644 Crewe 2-0 Barnsley - 2492 Dagenham 1-2 Reading - 2360 Derby 3-1 Lincoln - 10091 Exeter 1-3 Saints - 6471 Gillingham 0-1 Colchester - 2566 Grimsby 2-0 Tranmere - 1858 Hartlepool 3-0 Scunny - 2076 Huddersfield 4-0 Bradford - 8932 Ipswich 4-1 Leyton Orient - 1477 :shock: Leicester 1-0 Stockport - 7386 Luton 2-0 Plymouth - 2682 MK Dons 1-0 Norwich - 6261 Macclesfield 2-0 Blackpool - 1631 Millwall 0-1 Northampton - 3525 Notts County 1-0 Doncaster - 3272 Preston 2-0 Chesterfield - 5150 Rochdale 0-0 Oldham - 5786 Sheff Weds 2-2 Rotherham - 16298 Shrewsbury 0-1 Carlisle - 3337 Southend 0-1 Cheltenham - 2998 Swansea 2-0 Brentford - 5366 Swindon 2-3 QPR - 7230 Walsall 1-2 Darlington - 2702 Watford 1-0 Bristol Rovers - 5574 Wolves 3-2 Accrington - 9424 Even some games, which you would consider a "big" game for the home team and at least one of the two teams has a reasonably big following (e.g. Wycombe v Birmingham) have attracted very low attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 For what it's worth, here are the attendances from Round 1: Coventry 3-1 Aldershot - 9293 Forest 4-0 Morecambe - 4030 Sheff United 3-1 Port Vale - 7694 Wycombe 0-4 Birmingham - 2735 Bournemouth 1-2 Cardiff - 3399 Brighton 4-0 Barnet - 2571 Bristol City 2-1 Peterborough - 5684 Bury 0-2 Burnley - 4276 Crystal Palace 2-1 Hereford - 3094 Charlton 0-1 Yeovil - 6239 Chester 2-5 Leeds - 3644 Crewe 2-0 Barnsley - 2492 Dagenham 1-2 Reading - 2360 Derby 3-1 Lincoln - 10091 Exeter 1-3 Saints - 6471 Gillingham 0-1 Colchester - 2566 Grimsby 2-0 Tranmere - 1858 Hartlepool 3-0 Scunny - 2076 Huddersfield 4-0 Bradford - 8932 Ipswich 4-1 Leyton Orient - 1477 :shock: Leicester 1-0 Stockport - 7386 Luton 2-0 Plymouth - 2682 MK Dons 1-0 Norwich - 6261 Macclesfield 2-0 Blackpool - 1631 Millwall 0-1 Northampton - 3525 Notts County 1-0 Doncaster - 3272 Preston 2-0 Chesterfield - 5150 Rochdale 0-0 Oldham - 5786 Sheff Weds 2-2 Rotherham - 16298 Shrewsbury 0-1 Carlisle - 3337 Southend 0-1 Cheltenham - 2998 Swansea 2-0 Brentford - 5366 Swindon 2-3 QPR - 7230 Walsall 1-2 Darlington - 2702 Watford 1-0 Bristol Rovers - 5574 Wolves 3-2 Accrington - 9424 Even some games, which you would consider a "big" game for the home team and at least one of the two teams has a reasonably big following (e.g. Wycombe v Birmingham) have attracted very low attendances. Puts things in perspective. Makes you wonder how long this competition will remain viable for if even CCC fans dont want to turn up. Bit surprising tho considering there is still a UEFA cup place at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2008 what are the actual on the night prices tonight? Adults £15, Concessions £10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Puts things in perspective. Makes you wonder how long this competition will remain viable for if even CCC fans dont want to turn up. Bit surprising tho considering there is still a UEFA cup place at stake. Personally. I think they should abandon the current format, dissolve the Affiliate Member's Cup too (The Johnstone Paint's trophy) and simply have a 'Coca Cola Football League Cup.' A competition for all clubs outside of the premiership. The bonus being entry into a playoff for Premiership admittence. The playoff consisting of 3rd through 6th in the league, 17th in the Prem and the 'Football League' Cup winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Bring back Wednesday night fixtures.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Puts things in perspective. Makes you wonder how long this competition will remain viable for if even CCC fans dont want to turn up. Bit surprising tho considering there is still a UEFA cup place at stake. How many Football League teams realistically have a chance of winning it though? In general, you'd say the three who were relegated from the Premier League the previous season might have a chance if they get a very favourable draw, but that's about it. More to the point regarding the UEFA Cup place is that the runners-up DON'T get the place if the winner has already qualified for either the Champions League or the UEFA Cup through the league or the FA Cup. That's why the FA Cup is still attractive to most of the Premier League teams, because even if they don't win it, just getting to Wembley will more than likely get them into Europe. The likes of Everton, Newcastle, Man City, etc, should really be using the Carling Cup as their best chance of getting into Europe. Realistically, it's going to be a lot harder for them to qualify through the league, so I don't understand their attitude towards the Carling Cup. The only time you get a decent attendance in the early rounds are when there's either a local derby or a lower-league team at home to one of the bigger Championship teams. Exeter don't normally get much above 4500 for league games, but drawing us brought in an extra 2000. If Sheffield Wednesday had been drawn at home against a non-Yorkshire team, there's no way they'd have got 16k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Personally. I think they should abandon the current format, dissolve the Affiliate Member's Cup too (The Johnstone Paint's trophy) and simply have a 'Coca Cola Football League Cup.' A competition for all clubs outside of the premiership. The bonus being entry into a playoff for Premiership admittence. The playoff consisting of 3rd through 6th in the league, 17th in the Prem and the 'Football League' Cup winners. So in theory a newly promoted from non league, League Two team could be in the Premiership after winning a few "one off" cup games? Thats silly if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Adults £15, Concessions £10 Does that include Students? I'm not one, but my mate is. I'm trying to convince the cheap git to go with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Personally. I think they should abandon the current format, dissolve the Affiliate Member's Cup too (The Johnstone Paint's trophy) and simply have a 'Coca Cola Football League Cup.' A competition for all clubs outside of the premiership. The bonus being entry into a playoff for Premiership admittence. The playoff consisting of 3rd through 6th in the league, 17th in the Prem and the 'Football League' Cup winners. An interesting idea, but in true "turkeys voting for Christmas" fashion, I really can't imagine Premier League clubs voting in favour of a potential 4th team being relegated. I do agree that the Johnstones Paint Trophy should be scrapped, although alongside the playoffs, it's the only realistic route for League One and League Two teams to get to Wembley. However, the attendances in that competition are pathetic. Bournemouth will probably get about 1500 (if they're lucky) against Bristol Rovers next week - the corresponding league fixture last season drew in 6867. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Does that include Students? I'm not one, but my mate is. I'm trying to convince the cheap git to go with me. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Personally. I think they should abandon the current format, dissolve the Affiliate Member's Cup too (The Johnstone Paint's trophy) and simply have a 'Coca Cola Football League Cup.' A competition for all clubs outside of the premiership. The bonus being entry into a playoff for Premiership admittence. The playoff consisting of 3rd through 6th in the league, 17th in the Prem and the 'Football League' Cup winners. A nice idea although it would be a silly idea if a team from league two made it up to the prem just because of a few cup games and secondly if the team that was 17th in the prem won it then only two championship teams would be promoted but three would still be relegated and the premiership would only have 19 teams in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticket Office Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Just to confirm that we do have many collections for tonight. Probably 2-3 times more than a normal league game. We would advise anyone collecting a ticket to come down as early as possible (ticket office one). We have now stopped taking bookings via the telephone and online so this isnt made any worse. Apologies if this causes anyone any inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 The Tuesday games are no good for me unfortunately as I play 5-a-side; deciding to move the midweek games from Wednesdays to Tuesdays last season has deprived Saints of at least 3 extra attendees.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Yes Thanks, can you buy tickets at the gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Just spoken to the ticket office. I was told they don't expect it to be a sell out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I'm over from Florida so really excited by my first trip to watch the 'Total Soccer', sorry 'Football'. Warning to all. The last game i saw was at home vs Plymouth. I hope tonight fairs better. Equally hope i'm not a jinx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 sorry posting again just to get my 'Post' total off 13. Getting very superstitious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Thanks, can you buy tickets at the gate? Doubt it. Best to get to the ticket office as, by the look of things, they're expecting it to be very busy with people collecting and purchasing tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 So in theory a newly promoted from non league, League Two team could be in the Premiership after winning a few "one off" cup games? Thats silly if you ask me. If you want clubs taking it seriously. THAT would do it. Far from silly. The likelyhood of a league 2 team winning it anyway would be low. And if they did, well, it's the 'magic' of the League cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 A nice idea although it would be a silly idea if a team from league two made it up to the prem just because of a few cup games and secondly if the team that was 17th in the prem won it then only two championship teams would be promoted but three would still be relegated and the premiership would only have 19 teams in it. Thus eventually leaving the big four to fight it out on their own. Yes, better correct that to the team in 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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