We HAVE to fill the ground for Burnley

[OldNick]

The Football Club has no money.

 

To avoid the Club itself being put into admin as well as the PLC it MUST pay it's way and must NOT become legally insolvent.

 

Within the next few days it must by FL regulations pay it's salaries. EVERY indication is that it is tight on money to do that.

 

Even IF Mark Fry met a buyer TOMORROW who is interested in buying the club, that buyer will still have to do due dilligence, examine the books, the players contracts and the costs of running the stadium. that would take at least a couple of days.

 

Once an OFFER is made, Fry would have to speak to the creditors and get their approval, that would take several days as any reduction on a 24mil debt with Aviva would require senior management level approval as would Barclays.

 

At BEST, if an offer came in this week it could take 2-3 weeks BEFORE any money came into the CLUB.

 

And in that time the ONLY people who could have helped give the buyers and Mark Fry the time were us.

 

Sure the team is a crock of sh1t, the players don't deserve to wear the shirt, they sure as hell don't deserve the stupid wages, but unfortunately right now, we HAVE to help Mark and give him time, that means buying the ticket for Saturday and then buying the ticket for Saints Aid.

You don't have to DONATE, buy the ticket and don't turn UP if you want to still protest about our sorry state, but we HAVE to do all we can to get every extra 25 quid in NOW.. from any possible source whatsoever.

 

124 years down the drain because of apathy simply because we've been destroyed by one man who's already left the building - what a crap epitaph.

Poignant to say the least.If ever fans need to wake up it is after reading that.(not due to that)

The fans need to turn up so at least we have a club to sell I suppoose is the best way of adding to it.

[Big Bad Bob]

The Football Club has no money.

 

To avoid the Club itself being put into admin as well as the PLC it MUST pay it's way and must NOT become legally insolvent.

 

Within the next few days it must by FL regulations pay it's salaries. EVERY indication is that it is tight on money to do that.

 

So how about the players do their bit too and waive their wage for this month??

 

That way we can ensure that, at the least, the non-playing staff get paid

[Legod Third Coming]

So how about the players do their bit too and waive their wage for this month??

 

That way we can ensure that, at the least, the non-playing staff get paid

 

When it comes to decisions, you can only do what YOU can.

 

Or you can sit and see what others do.

 

I have always wanted to lead by example and be satisfied that when it comes to pulling weight, I've done my bit.

 

If others choose not to, that's a decision they have to reconcile with their God. I'll reconcile my decisions with mine.

 

It's my considered wish that more people in the world woke up thinking the same.

[dubai_phil]

So how about the players do their bit too and waive their wage for this month??

 

That way we can ensure that, at the least, the non-playing staff get paid

 

BBB - if I was honest I think it would be only equitable if some of them gave back everything they have ever taken from the club in wages, and it's a fair point

 

Certainly at this time a gesture from them would be helpful, if only to set an example.

 

But, the other side is that I would expect that the entire coaching staff are repeatedly telling the players, don't worry about it, focus on the game coming up. Football at this level is as much about attitude as ability.

 

Again, it comes back to my point, this is NOT a time to delegate responsibility, pass the blame or moan that others are not doing their bit.

 

NOW is the time where every one of us who can, in any way possible, needs to help out.

 

On the pitch we have seen (or listened to) so many examples of "passing the responsibility" as in "I thought you were marking him" at corners.

 

Leaving it to someone else right now is not going to work, it just gives us someone or something else to moan about for the next 7 years or so while AFC Saints try to get back up the pyramid.

 

We the fans have to set an example, maybe, just maybe that will shame some of the underperforming players into doing their bit, but we cannot afford the TIME to hold our breath.

[Saint 76er]

People don't get it do they.

 

It doesn't matter one jot who is on the pitch.

 

It's not about going for them.

 

It's about the FUTURE of a 124 year-old club which may or may not be here in another 124 years.

 

Empty seats simply hasten the end of a football club that for all but a brief period has represented the town of Southampton, Hampshire and US in a way we can be proud to reflect on.

 

The current team are irrelevant. The current manager is irrelevant.

 

SURVIVAL is what I care about.

 

In another 124 days would be more accurate.

 

Yes, by all accounts things are that bad so fill the ground and don't worry about the abysmal team or Loweite manager, they'll soon be history.

 

The objective now is to make sure the club they leave behind isn't consigned to history also....

 

:smt023

[Harry Faz]

It amazes me that we cant sell out when the clubs very survival is at stake.

 

At the cup -final ( and many other occassions prior to that) I truly thought we had a fanbase that were passionate about this club ( regardless of who was in charge ) and I felt proud to be a saints fan, especially compared to the Arsenal fans who didnt seem to have any of the passion which we showed on the day. Did I misunderstand ? Were many of my fellow die-hard saints fans just there for the good times? Have so many lost their passion for the club that they dont feel the need to show up now in our greatest hour of need?

[Window Cleaner]

It amazes me that we cant sell out when the clubs very survival is at stake.

 

At the cup -final ( and many other occassions prior to that) I truly thought we had a fanbase that were passionate about this club ( regardless of who was in charge ) and I felt proud to be a saints fan, especially compared to the Arsenal fans who didnt seem to have any of the passion which we showed on the day. Did I misunderstand ? Were many of my fellow die-hard saints fans just there for the good times? Have so many lost their passion for the club that they dont feel the need to show up now in our greatest hour of need?

 

 

To be honest Harry it doesn't amaze me at all. People turned out for the Charlton game and we were rubbish in it's purest state.Why would they pay

£24 quid for another dose of the same. The team should be ashamed of themselves for that performance,27K+ in the stadium and not one of them turned up for a vital match. Why should the fans bother any more?

[Calvin]

I will actually be working instead of going to the game. An extra days earning is much better than watching a bunch of clueless and useless youngsters on the pitch.

 

I love this club but the chances of us fans helping SaintsFC survive is really, really slim.

How can one club survive on little donations, considering the state of the club with debt.

 

I will be at SMS next season in league one. I will support them till I die, But I don't see the point of getting my heart broken when watching the Saints go down this weekend.

[Calvin]

When it comes to decisions, you can only do what YOU can.

 

Or you can sit and see what others do.

 

I have always wanted to lead by example and be satisfied that when it comes to pulling weight, I've done my bit.

 

If others choose not to, that's a decision they have to reconcile with their God. I'll reconcile my decisions with mine.

 

It's my considered wish that more people in the world woke up thinking the same.

 

 

Why don't you just invest a days wages into SFC each week..

[Puddings and Monkeys]

I will actually be working instead of going to the game. An extra days earning is much better than watching a bunch of clueless and useless youngsters on the pitch.

 

I love this club but the chances of us fans helping SaintsFC survive is really, really slim.

How can one club survive on little donations, considering the state of the club with debt.

 

I will be at SMS next season in league one. I will support them till I die, But I don't see the point of getting my heart broken when watching the Saints go down this weekend.

 

Why not come along though and (like me) hurl abuse at the lazy, spineless, bottlers who currently wear our famous red and white shirts. They deserve total humiliation for the way they have capitulated this season and played with no pride whatsoever. Only a small number are exempt from this - the rest should hang their ****ing heads in shame at what they have done. We deserve better.

[Window Cleaner]

Why don't you just invest a days wages into SFC each week..

 

Who could honestly afford to throw good money after bad like that.

Ridiculous suggestion really. SFC had money, they wasted it on garbage and now we have to stump up our hard-earned to save them...bollix.

 

Let the administrators sort it out, they're getting paid for that.

[Calvin]

Why not come along though and (like me) hurl abuse at the lazy, spineless, bottlers who currently wear our famous red and white shirts. They deserve total humiliation for the way they have capitulated this season and played with no pride whatsoever. Only a small number are exempt from this - the rest should hang their ****ing heads in shame at what they have done. We deserve better.

 

Like I said, I have booked a days work.

At least, I will be getting much more of a wage than the current ticket price for a days week.

[70's Mike]

I will actually be working instead of going to the game. An extra days earning is much better than watching a bunch of clueless and useless youngsters on the pitch.

 

I love this club but the chances of us fans helping SaintsFC survive is really, really slim.

How can one club survive on little donations, considering the state of the club with debt.

 

I will be at SMS next season in league one. I will support them till I die, But I don't see the point of getting my heart broken when watching the Saints go down this weekend.

 

not so many youngsters these days

is it a little while since you saw a game

[SFKA South Woodford]

They came because it was 15 quid. 5,000 of them didn't bother to come back. Yet the rally call was about saving the club, making money to carry on, showing investors what the club is worth, showing we have support that deserves a club, showing lowe kept people away. But no, people made it about the group of shallow spineless idiots we currently have in the team. ONE team, who won't be here next season, a blink in our 125 years as a club, yet people use that as a reason to stay away now?

 

No, it's garbage. That ground should have been sold out for the final 3 games with people wanting to ensure we had another 125 years of Southampton Football Club.

 

Well said, it woud seem that not enough people either realise or care about how grave the situation is.

 

If they want a club in the city in the future, then they should turn up and show their support.

[Calvin]

not so many youngsters these days

is it a little while since you saw a game

 

I have been to most of the home games this season.

What a load of ****e in which I saw.

 

 

BTW, I tried to put a positive comment.. but now you ruined the positive and turned it into a further negative

[Window Cleaner]

Well said, it woud seem that not enough people either realise or care about how grave the situation is.

 

If they want a club in the city in the future, then they should turn up and show their support.

 

But then they should have done that all season shouldn't they, instead of moaning and whining about this chairman or that coach or no star players.

Only 15K or so people in Greater Southampton actually give toss about professional football, the rest are plastics.

[Deano6]

So how about the players do their bit too and waive their wage for this month??

 

That way we can ensure that, at the least, the non-playing staff get paid

 

 

How about you "do your bit too" and donate your wage for this month? Serious suggestion.

[Legod Third Coming]

Why don't you just invest a days wages into SFC each week..

 

Over my lifetime son, I've probably spent your entire salary this year and then some on this club.

 

I wasn't asked.

 

It was my choice.

 

You have no idea what I've invested to date to help stave off administration, nor what I've pledged.

 

So would suggest you have a chat with your own conscience and leave me with mine eh?

[70's Mike]

I have been to most of the home games this season.

What a load of ****e in which I saw.

 

 

BTW, I tried to put a positive comment.. but now you ruined the positive and turned it into a further negative

 

 

just say it as i see it

[Legod Third Coming]

But then they should have done that all season shouldn't they, instead of moaning and whining about this chairman or that coach or no star players.

Only 15K or so people in Greater Southampton actually give toss about professional football, the rest are plastics.

 

It's a fair argument. But when you couldn't trust the board to spell truth how were people to know how grave the situation really was??

 

Now we know.

 

So if people are still prepared to watch us fall over the cliff, they have themselves to answer to, no one else.

[Toadhall Saint]

I think its quite simple really - either help in the hour of need or look the other way. One might make you feel good about yourself and one won't.

 

Oh and to Calvin - you'll be at SMS next season watching us in L1 - you might just not if the Club cannot pay its way. You could very well be watching a non league team playing on the common. Still you'll have your days wages.

[Big Bad Bob]

How about you "do your bit too" and donate your wage for this month? Serious suggestion.

 

How dare you bounce this back on me you obnoxious ****!!

 

I think I've done my bit this season going to matches and supporting the team as best I can.

 

The players have failed to do their bit and it is their work (or lack of) that has contributed to this club being where it is. So why can't they do something meaningful??

 

Congratulations for being the first arsehole to really, really rankle me!!

[Legod Third Coming]

How dare you bounce this back on me you obnoxious ****!!

 

I think I've done my bit this season going to matches and supporting the team as best I can.

 

The players have failed to do their bit and it is their work (or lack of) that has contributed to this club being where it is. So why can't they do something meaningful??

 

Congratulations for being the first arsehole to really, really rankle me!!

 

You can't have been supporting very long then...

[Big Bad Bob]

You can't have been supporting very long then...

 

OK, I should have added 'on this forum' to that statement

[teamsaint]

But then they should have done that all season shouldn't they, instead of moaning and whining about this chairman or that coach or no star players.

Only 15K or so people in Greater Southampton actually give toss about professional football, the rest are plastics.

 

The 15 K figure is not true. Not every true fan gets to every home game.

 

And IMO, if the situation is a s dire as has been said, the administrator should really make it crystal clear.

 

"Look folks, either sell out the ground, or we will be finished by the end of the week" ought to do it.

[Deano6]

How dare you bounce this back on me you obnoxious ****!!

 

I think I've done my bit this season going to matches and supporting the team as best I can.

 

The players have failed to do their bit and it is their work (or lack of) that has contributed to this club being where it is. So why can't they do something meaningful??

 

Congratulations for being the first arsehole to really, really rankle me!!

 

I would imagine the players would have the exact same response to your suggestion.

[saint francis]

I would imagine the players would have the exact same response to your suggestion.

 

Come on back Deano, don't make a stranger of yourself.

[SFKA South Woodford]

The 15 K figure is not true. Not every true fan gets to every home game.

 

And IMO, if the situation is a s dire as has been said, the administrator should really make it crystal clear.

 

"Look folks, either sell out the ground, or we will be finished by the end of the week" ought to do it.

 

Not as if he hasn't said this several times already. So I wouldn't count on that statement making any difference.

 

There really should be enough people who give a sh*t about the club to sell 30,000, for what is after all a very important game in more ways than one.

[rallyboy]

WE ALL KNOW THIS TEAM SHOULD BE PUT DOWN but show a bit of loyalty to the history of this club and get your arse down the ticket office.

 

 

The club is a sick mongrel, but there are people who were quite happy to run around Crufts with it having their pictures taken but now the old faithful friend ain't so good they have stuck it in a bag and dumped it in the Itchen.

 

 

Shameful.

[Big Bad Bob]

I would imagine the players would have the exact same response to your suggestion.

 

And so did the poor sods who've had to take pay cuts and/or reduced working weeks to ensure that their company survives and they still have a job. But they've accepted it

 

So why can't our over paid primma donnas? Because they know they can just go somewhere else and their wages are protected by the PFA.

[Legod Third Coming]

When will people get it.

 

The current team are F U C K I N G irellevant.

 

I am not going to save their sorry skins, I am going to save My CLUB - I am going for Steve Moran, for Adrian Heath, for Wembley, for Watford (7-1), for Kevin Keegan, for Alan Ball, for Souness, for Channon, for Danny Higginbotham, for Ted Bates, for Lawrie, for everything this club has given and TAKEN from me over the years.

 

I have invested cash (meaningless).

But above all I have invested MY LIFE.

 

You cannot get that back people.

 

All the time, all the effort, all the joy and all the pain.

 

That is why I want to see Southampton FC survive.

 

Because behind me is a shirt signed by our cup final side. And a ball signed by the relegation side.

 

Behind me are books by Duncan. Behind me now is a sensational pictorial history the staff of my company LOVINGLY put together on my club and presented to me.

 

I am going to throw good money after bad, because it's just MONEY.

 

Do you want to know who we were playing when I got married? When my kids were born? When I lost my cherry???

 

 

For once - set aside your cynicism and downright hatred and look inside what used to be your heart and if you STILL cannot find time for this club and to help it survive, you were simply passing through and never really supported it at all. Good luck to you.

[Dan Johnson]

Anyone and I mean anyone who claims to be a saints fan and doesnt buy a ticket for saturdays game is a disgrace. There is absolutely no excuse for any saints fan not buy a ticket to save the club. If you cant go for whatever reason buy one anyway.

 

18k tickets sold for the last home game (possibly ever) of the season. It shows who the real fans are.

 

100% agree!!!!

[OldNick]

When will people get it.

 

The current team are F U C K I N G irellevant.

 

I am not going to save their sorry skins, I am going to save My CLUB - I am going for Steve Moran, for Adrian Heath, for Wembley, for Watford (7-1), for Kevin Keegan, for Alan Ball, for Souness, for Channon, for Danny Higginbotham, for Ted Bates, for Lawrie, for everything this club has given and TAKEN from me over the years.

 

I have invested cash (meaningless).

But above all I have invested MY LIFE.

 

You cannot get that back people.

 

All the time, all the effort, all the joy and all the pain.

 

That is why I want to see Southampton FC survive.

 

Because behind me is a shirt signed by our cup final side. And a ball signed by the relegation side.

 

Behind me are books by Duncan. Behind me now is a sensational pictorial history the staff of my company LOVINGLY put together on my club and presented to me.

 

I am going to throw good money after bad, because it's just MONEY.

 

Do you want to know who we were playing when I got married? When my kids were born? When I lost my cherry???

 

 

For once - set aside your cynicism and downright hatred and look inside what used to be your heart and if you STILL cannot find time for this club and to help it survive, you were simply passing through and never really supported it at all. Good luck to you.

I share your passion

[Big Bad Bob]

When will people get it.

 

The current team are F U C K I N G irellevant.

 

I disagree, they have helped get us into this position so they could give something back!

 

If they did that it might even get more people into the ground come Saturday, people who would be more willing to see their money going to the non-playing staff than to the people who haven't really bothered all season.

 

History is all very well, and I'm not in any way belittling it, but people have short term memories and and are swayed by the recent events!!

[saints_is_the_south]

Just over 18k sold as of this morning, shocking IMO.

[dubai_phil]

I disagree, they have helped get us into this position so they could give something back!

 

If they did that it might even get more people into the ground come Saturday, people who would be more willing to see their money going to the non-playing staff than to the people who haven't really bothered all season.

 

History is all very well, and I'm not in any way belittling it, but people have short term memories and and are swayed by the recent events!!

 

Again, I agree with the whole concept of why the hell should we have to step up just so that a bunch of in the main swaggering idiots can afford to put fuel in their 'top of the range" motors is sickening. I agree that many of them are not worth the effort.

 

But the point is, as you say, short term memories. By not getting the crowd numbers up and not surving until Fry gets a deal done, there will not BE a team to moan about next season.

 

It's pretty clear to all of us that the squad should be decimated in the close season, can we not at least take the view that going on Saturday gives us time to get our REVENGE on those idiots by watching them drift off into Bosman land?

 

Buy a ticket but make your protest by not turning up, buy a shirt instead, in 10 years time it will be worth a fortune on ebay if we cease to exist, but to sulk and do nothing is only going to bring more misery in the future when we have no players to moan at

[Big Bad Bob]

Buy a ticket but make your protest by not turning up, buy a shirt instead, in 10 years time it will be worth a fortune on ebay if we cease to exist, but to sulk and do nothing is only going to bring more misery in the future when we have no players to moan at

 

Have I said anywhere that I haven't actually bought a ticket??

[dubai_phil]

Have I said anywhere that I haven't actually bought a ticket??

 

nope. and I hope you don't mind me using your valid opinion (that is held by many) as an example to try and demonstrate others as to why they should step up. Others haven't been as clear and lucid in their comments in order to hold a sensible conversation with

 

In the same way many fans in many places are doing anything they can to try and help, most are doing it in private.

 

Myself & LGTC are only trying to add some logic to the "endless" Crouchie rallying calls.

 

I always only analyse what I read on here and the media and seek to understand things rather than rail against.

 

Everything tells me we're in the sh1t and it breaks my heart that we are so close to death and yet the tickets aren't selling very well.

 

I've done some maths elsewhere and I reckon below 25k and we're not even going to be around long enough for the fund raising committees to kick in.

[70's Mike]

12,000 empty seats at the moment, screaming out to investors that this club isn't worth saving.

 

WHERE IS EVERYONE?!!!!!!!

 

totally agree with you but i am not so concerned that the current attendances will deter an investor, any worth his salt will have worked out that we have a hardcore of 15/16k and that will increase rapidly with success on the pitch.

My concern with the current lack of numbers is the really short term. ie our last income before wages have to be paid etc

[londonsaint1604]

totally agree with you but i am not so concerned that the current attendances will deter an investor, any worth his salt will have worked out that we have a hardcore of 15/16k and that will increase rapidly with success on the pitch.

My concern with the current lack of numbers is the really short term. ie our last income before wages have to be paid etc

 

Fair point, they're not going to see a full st marys and think it's been that way all season, but they will question why so many fans who turned up against sheffield united last season have suddenly deserted the club.

[70's Mike]

Fair point, they're not going to see a full st marys and think it's been that way all season, but they will question why so many fans who turned up against sheffield united last season have suddenly deserted the club.

 

not if they really understand football and business, the product is crap and any investor , worth there salt, knows that it will need improving to boost gates

[Torres]

Not sure why people are hoping that we have a full house to "impress" an investor. If they're stupid enough to think that one sell out is indicative of the level of support that they might get next season then we really don't want them near our club.

 

We do however need a sell out to maximise the chances of the football club avoiding administration for as long as possible.

[londonsaint1604]

It's not an attempt to trick them into thinking we get 30,000 every week! But I think it would impress them if 30,000 fans turned up to watch a **** team that is almost certainly relegated. They might think this is a club worth investing in rather than a club that is truly ****ed!

[Iowsaintsfan]

Just a reminder for anyone in 2 minds whether to go or not, Bluestar are still doing the 50p fare and Red funnel are doing half price on the Red Jet £6 day return for the game.

 

And if you cant make it for what ever reason - buy a ticket anyway and help save our saints

[Wade Garrett]

When will people get it.

 

The current team are F U C K I N G irellevant.

 

I am not going to save their sorry skins, I am going to save My CLUB - I am going for Steve Moran, for Adrian Heath, for Wembley, for Watford (7-1), for Kevin Keegan, for Alan Ball, for Souness, for Channon, for Danny Higginbotham, for Ted Bates, for Lawrie, for everything this club has given and TAKEN from me over the years.

 

I have invested cash (meaningless).

But above all I have invested MY LIFE.

 

You cannot get that back people.

 

All the time, all the effort, all the joy and all the pain.

 

That is why I want to see Southampton FC survive.

 

Because behind me is a shirt signed by our cup final side. And a ball signed by the relegation side.

 

Behind me are books by Duncan. Behind me now is a sensational pictorial history the staff of my company LOVINGLY put together on my club and presented to me.

 

I am going to throw good money after bad, because it's just MONEY.

 

Do you want to know who we were playing when I got married? When my kids were born? When I lost my cherry???

 

 

For once - set aside your cynicism and downright hatred and look inside what used to be your heart and if you STILL cannot find time for this club and to help it survive, you were simply passing through and never really supported it at all. Good luck to you.

 

I love this post. Top man.

 

(By the way, what stand were you in when you lost your cherry?)

[Saint Dave]

Just called the ticket office as the missus has decided to come (she's coming with me to Nottingham as well!) got a ticket and looks as if all of the Northam end is full, all of the Itchen stand is full apart from a little bit near Chapel and a lot of Kingsland stand is sold, reckon we should get 30,000 plus, help the club to carry on for a few more weeks. COYR

[OldNick]

Just called the ticket office as the missus has decided to come (she's coming with me to Nottingham as well!) got a ticket and looks as if all of the Northam end is full, all of the Itchen stand is full apart from a little bit near Chapel and a lot of Kingsland stand is sold, reckon we should get 30,000 plus, help the club to carry on for a few more weeks. COYR

I think you are getting a bit carried away. We only sold 27k on cheap tickets after the media hype and RL departing. 22k looks like the most unless the media goes into full swing and tells people it will be the last game ever at SMS, then the train crash watchers will turn up.

[OldNick]

last game of the season always gets more, and hopefully people are starting to comprehend the situation.

In theory but it will be like a wake and so many will be put off by that.If the media really lay it on and its a lovely day perhaps there will be a good walk up.

[saints_is_the_south]

As already posted i was informed by David Luker that we'd sold just over 18k at 9am this morning & at the rate of current sales we are heading for a gate of around 22k. Not anywhere near 25k yet, let alone 30k.

 

The only bit from the posts above i do believe is that the Northam is sold out.

[Durleyfos]

Over 18,500 as of 20 minutes ago. Itchen North corner not open yet, Kingsland North is pretty much sold out.

 

Northam is sold out.