Did Lowe do it just to spite us?

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Duncan a couple of things, why did those people not tell you then so the fans could have been informed? The big question mark over this is we all know RL GA and all the others put their money first.If this was the case why did he not sell players to help save his investment/share value? It doesnt add up.

 

I was told then (in fact the day after) but to be honest I could hardly come on here and spout it off could I?

And I don't know the second part of your question - I guess that perhaps none of our players were wanted by other clubs.

[Charlie Wayman]

Bloody idiots!!!!

 

Barclays are the reason we are in administration - they refused to continue with the overdraft. Or was that down to Lowe as well?

 

A company does not go into administration out of spite..........Osman is either telling lies or extending the truth. A company cannot continue trading whilst insolvent (basically not enough money to pay bills, employees, etc): this is against the law and especially bad for a listed company.

 

So that piece is absolute ******.

 

Some of you need to grow up, stop seeing the boogey man and worry more about whether we have a club to support next season.

 

You are right, of course.

 

I was talking to somebody very high-up at a top auditing company in the City this morning about Saints' chances of getting out of Administration before The Official Receiver is called in and he said quite candidly "With their £27m debt in the present financial climate nobody on earth will buy the club, no chance at all"

 

The person thinks the club will have to be wound up.

 

Sorry, guys but this person knows where it is at and has no axe to grind.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

IF that is true then he is a total t w a t.

 

IF that is true then hanging on until after the deadline was (in my view) seriously negligent.

 

Edit: Just a quick thought but the red "IF"s aren't intended to call you into question duncan. I'm just amazed that he could have been talking like that whilst director of a plc and not taking is into admin before the deadline.

 

 

Clapham - I am in no doubt Lowe said it because of the 100% integrity of the person who heard it and reported it back to me and also the fact that Lowe promptly carried out his threat of singing from the rafters when it happened.

 

It was not very clever of Lowe and indeed could I suppose be a form of insider trading except even then the shares were virtually valueless.

However for what its worth I do not believe Lowe did this to spite us, that is not in his makeup. I genuinely think he carried on completely deluded that Barclays would not carry out their threat to pull the plug and that somehow he would save the day.

[Viking Warrior]

Why cant people move on with out constantly regurgitating the RL factor.

 

We have been in a financial melt down for 2/3 years now and sadly due to the credit crunch Barclays are having to recoup billions they leant out in toxic debts. Therefore It is Barclays who pulled the plug on the club. not lowe crouch or wilde. yes they have a responsibility but Barclays are the main culprits.

 

 

I just want this season to end and then I can hopefully look forward to the regeneration of Southampton Football Club.

 

If its Div 1 then so be it. We will be back

[solentstars]

Rupert Lowe has gone for good I hope.

 

Not to blame for everything.....Wilde and Askham must take a little of the blame.

 

Sorry just do not understand you solentstars and washsaint....Lowey is a fiasco and always has been....Gone for good get over it...You and your little Lowey boys are the ones living in the past...New leaders required soon with new Football coach and new players....Tell the agency for Lowe you are wasting your time on Damage Limitation...Its over..everyone knows the boyzz didn't do good AGAIN....

 

not a lowey boy just dealing with the facts.

[solentstars]

Thats absolutely correct. But, unusual in footballing terms for a bank to pull the plug at the first opportunity regardless.

 

Sorry, but Barclay's are the reason for administration. But the opportunity now to rebuild without the incompetence of the old plc boardroom is simply magical.

 

We will be bought out. Lets just keep selling this Club by turning up and showing how many fans we have even in the bad times. There are many buyers out there... always was. We are still the biggest club on the South coast.

 

You know what feels really good? Buying a ticket for Saturday for Southampton Football Club and not Southampton Leisure Holdings plc.

hope your right i to am looking forward to the future but worry we might go bankrupt.

before then.

[ottery st mary]

not a lowey boy just dealing with the facts.

 

 

Just back from cheerleader rehearsals.....You , washsaint and nickh have been missed:)

[dubai_phil]

Clapham - I am in no doubt Lowe said it because of the 100% integrity of the person who heard it and reported it back to me and also the fact that Lowe promptly carried out his threat of singing from the rafters when it happened.

 

It was not very clever of Lowe and indeed could I suppose be a form of insider trading except even then the shares were virtually valueless.

However for what its worth I do not believe Lowe did this to spite us, that is not in his makeup. I genuinely think he carried on completely deluded that Barclays would not carry out their threat to pull the plug and that somehow he would save the day.

 

 

Now I know this concept doesn't fit very well with the cartoon villain picture of Lowe that we hold on here, but (using the Sherlock Holmes' logic) maybe there is a reason he did not do that.

 

Those reasons could be

He was deluded into thinking he could blackmail Barclays by waving the admin vs ST revenue gamble at them

He was deluded into thinking it would all be alright because of his inherent personality disorders

He was working on something behind the scenes to solve the core problem

 

I'm sure we could speculate at some others, (of course the pantomine villain ones are easy to make up and anything sensible just gets shouted down)

 

But I keep coming back to the fact we are in a phoney war, there is a heck of a lot of crud out there to come flying in, not least of which will be the eventual facts and figures of the finances and who REALLY said they would do what and when to help the club.

 

Right now I am taking a cynical stance on anything anybody says whether they be expensegate, donategate or admingate

 

Survival is all that matters, and the reason I PRAY we get a clean break from the lot of them is that I honestly don't think we'll have heard the last of it if one or other stays close to the train set

[solentstars]

Just back from cheerleader rehearsals.....You , washsaint and nickh have been missed:)

you lowe lovers crack me up:D

 

you can change your tune now hes gone stop going on about him we all know you love him.

[ottery st mary]

you lowe lovers crack me up:d

 

you can change your tune now hes gone stop going on about him we all know you love him.

 

unite;)

[spyinthesky]

Couple questions:

 

1. The straw that supposedly 'broke the camels back' was a bounced pay check for the GK coach. Is this the current one or the one Mr Lowe put on gardening leave?

 

2. Someone at the club, during Mr Lowe's most recent tenure, agreed contracts for Messrs Gasmi/Pulis/Molyneaux/Forecast and loans for Pekhart and Robertson.

I would suggest non of these players have contributed anything to Southampton Football Club and probably cost say £2/£3k per week plus any add ons, say £750k over a year.

 

3. In addition, if things really were so parlous pre season, why on earth did we spend £1.2m on Morgan Schneiderlin and also offer Paul Wotton more money than was on offer at Plymouth, plus a longer deal?

[Mole]

Putting us into administration just 1 week after the deadline which meant we would have any points deduction this season?

 

I think it's the sort of thing Lowe would do.

[Legod Third Coming]

Why cant people move on with out constantly regurgitating the RL factor.

 

We have been in a financial melt down for 2/3 years now and sadly due to the credit crunch Barclays are having to recoup billions they leant out in toxic debts. Therefore It is Barclays who pulled the plug on the club. not lowe crouch or wilde. yes they have a responsibility but Barclays are the main culprits.

 

 

I just want this season to end and then I can hopefully look forward to the regeneration of Southampton Football Club.

 

If its Div 1 then so be it. We will be back

 

 

Barclays pulled the plug in order to kiss their £4m goodbye??

 

Banks act like this as a last resort. They clearly thought things were going to get a great deal WORSE.

 

I love the way banks are just supposed to sit back and watch a board of directors kill a business and then when they step in it's somehow their fault?

 

I didn't see anyone from Barclays on the touchline. I saw two Dutch clowns employed by a fecking idiot.

[70's Mike]

That would be the same Nigel Pearson who nealry took us down with 20 mins to spare and better players???

 

The financial situation was set out at the start of the season and we were basically stuffed. A decsion was made (joined up thinking) to get rid of the high earners and to go with youth with a coaching set up that was used to brining youth through. It didn't work but at least we had a plan. If the high earners had stayed we would have gone under sooner.

 

Devil and the deep blue sea....

 

but is that not contary to 19C's view, if we had won a few more home games , averaged 20k rather than 15k , the extra revenue would have kept us a float.

the big question for me is still why send out cheques knowing they would take us over the limit, arrogance that the bank would agree or delibrate act so we could go into admin because a transaction indicated we were insolvent ie bounced cheques

[benjii]

Crouch seems to be getting off lightly in the blame game. When Lowe left in 2006 we didn't owe Barclays a penny. When he returned, we owed them £4m due to Crouch giving Burley money to spend.

 

I think that Crouch genuinely cares about the club but, like many football club chairman who are successful businessmen, his financial sense seems to have deserted him when dealing with football matters.

 

Jesus Christ.

 

There's no wonder so many threads descend into endless nonsense on here when the level of factual awareness of so many is so low.

 

"Crouch gave Burley money to spend"

 

This debate is so boring now. I don't know why it needs to be had as there are only about five individuals on this entire board that don't view Lowe as an utter failure.

 

Yes, clearly others failed as well but none so often and so spectacularly as that buffoon.

 

Here's a thought for those who like to pin the majority of the cause for our current embarassment on the two years when Lowe was away:

 

Wilde's board spent a lot of money. They buggered up the finances to the point where we were not viable in the long-run. They did something about it. They did something that no other board has managed to do. They attracted investment. They were poo-pooed by the shareholders. They left.

 

All major shareholders are to blame for this shambles but one stands head and shoulders above the others when it comes to abysmal management that has had a direct measurable effect on the pitiful shower of **** on the field.

[Clapham Saint]

Barclays pulled the plug in order to kiss their £4m goodbye??

 

Banks act like this as a last resort. They clearly thought things were going to get a great deal WORSE.

 

I love the way banks are just supposed to sit back and watch a board of directors kill a business and then when they step in it's somehow their fault?

 

I didn't see anyone from Barclays on the touchline. I saw two Dutch clowns employed by a fecking idiot.

 

+1

 

Most posters on here don't do this but the attitude taken by some of "£Xm is nothing to them, they can afford it" really annoys me.

[70's Mike]

Barclays pulled the plug in order to kiss their £4m goodbye??

 

Banks act like this as a last resort. They clearly thought things were going to get a great deal WORSE.

 

I love the way banks are just supposed to sit back and watch a board of directors kill a business and then when they step in it's somehow their fault?

 

I didn't see anyone from Barclays on the touchline. I saw two Dutch clowns employed by a fecking idiot.

 

two from Barclays would probably known more about CCC football

[Toomer]

 

Well done Toomer, I wasn't there as i hadn't been born but had I been born I would have been there. If we are going to go down the route of length of service before your opinion can be justified then you will alienate the future fans of this club.

 

 

As many have pointed out to you there was life before Lowe (about the time you started attending when he arrived) the leading question is will there be life after Lowe. Would be interesting to know how long you have been going I am sure it is just the 12 or so years,

[eelpie]

Yes, I could believe you are right. Lowe's interest in SLH/SFC was never that of a supporter.

[Clapham Saint]

You are right, of course.

 

I was talking to somebody very high-up at a top auditing company in the City this morning about Saints' chances of getting out of Administration before The Official Receiver is called in and he said quite candidly "With their £27m debt in the present financial climate nobody on earth will buy the club, no chance at all"

 

The person thinks the club will have to be wound up.

 

Sorry, guys but this person knows where it is at and has no axe to grind.

 

If that is actually what he said I'm afraid he has no idea what he is talking about.

[Clapham Saint]

Clapham - I am in no doubt Lowe said it because of the 100% integrity of the person who heard it and reported it back to me and also the fact that Lowe promptly carried out his threat of singing from the rafters when it happened.

 

It was not very clever of Lowe and indeed could I suppose be a form of insider trading except even then the shares were virtually valueless.

However for what its worth I do not believe Lowe did this to spite us, that is not in his makeup. I genuinely think he carried on completely deluded that Barclays would not carry out their threat to pull the plug and that somehow he would save the day.

 

I agree. I doubt he would be vindictive. More than anything else I expect he would see it as beneath him as muc as anything else.

 

Also not the smartest thing for him to be mouthing off about when Chairman of a listed company...

[Smirking_Saint]

Putting us into administration just 1 week after the deadline which meant we would have any points deduction this season?

 

If we had filed for admin on the 19th March we would still be relegated but be in a much better position knowing we had a chance of going straight back up, now we will face another relegation battle next year and any prospective buyers will lose interest knowing we have at least 2 years in div 3.

 

I can't think of any other reason why Lowe would wait a few days when the consequences are SO serious - League 2 and doing a Luton is a very real possibility now. IMO he had to do it just to spite us, other shareholders like Crouch and Corbett, and probably the bank.

 

I apologise if it's been said earlier but this is ********, Lowe did a shiite job and i would NEVER like to see him back bu to say he did it on purpose is going major OTT !!!

[Saint Paul C]

I've posted this before on here but I think that this helps explain the mindset of Lowe

 

Does this remind you of anyone?

 

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

 

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

 

2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

 

3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

 

4. requires excessive admiration

 

5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

 

6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

 

7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

 

8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

 

9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

 

All of these character traits are regularly displayed by Lowe and are also the reason why he has destroyed OUR club.

 

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

[saintwarwick]

Couple questions:

 

1. The straw that supposedly 'broke the camels back' was a bounced pay check for the GK coach. Is this the current one or the one Mr Lowe put on gardening leave?

 

2. Someone at the club, during Mr Lowe's most recent tenure, agreed contracts for Messrs Gasmi/Pulis/Molyneaux/Forecast and loans for Pekhart and Robertson.

I would suggest non of these players have contributed anything to Southampton Football Club and probably cost say £2/£3k per week plus any add ons, say £750k over a year.

 

3. In addition, if things really were so parlous pre season, why on earth did we spend £1.2m on Morgan Schneiderlin and also offer Paul Wotton more money than was on offer at Plymouth, plus a longer deal?

 

We released 14 players in the summer, many high earners. The replacements were certainly a lot cheaper even if not warranted but gaps had to be filled. As for the Morgan transfer I thought that figure was 'in total' and not the signing on fee.

[spyinthesky]

Saint Warwick,

 

Fair comment. However questions have to be asked why these basically useless players were signed.

 

For example we didnt need a third GK and signing an injury prone player rejected by a number of lower league sides was 'unusual' to say the least.

 

I also missed out the Millwall reserve, Ryan Smith.

 

Most fans would have argued that the team needed a big ugly defender, a big ugly stiker and someone with ball winning skills and energy in midfield.

 

Mr Lowe, in his wisdom, decided to bring in an untried Dutch experiment, which was unable to deal with the rigours of Championship football.

 

Also, according to the official Saints bsite, and an article on Schneiderlin in the matchday programme the transfer fee was £1.2m.

[Frank's cousin]

My definitive take on Lowe:

 

1. Not out of spite - out of despiration to make good, but no plan B for when revenues did not meet forecast - as a result of poor perfromances ensuring declining gates

 

2. Arrogance and ego that drove some of the few successes, also wrecked or prevented even good ideas and concepts from working - eg, Nowt wrong with SCW at SFC - major problem with Timing, communication, role clarification and getting buy in from existing employees, media and fans...

 

3. Made no real effort to win fans over - which would have made fans more receptive to some of his ideals - open constructive dialogue would have benefitted all, but that needs to be based on trust and mutual respect - Lowe never admitting mistakes or errors of judgemnet and public gaffs means no trust or respect.

 

4. Prudence: hated by some as showing 'no ambition' - agian because approach, budget, forecast was badly communicated, but for me one of the few good things - refused to be sucked into the high risk spend culture in the premiership - and lived within our means - something that ALL clubs should be FORCED to do IMHO.

 

5. Managers - failed to grasp the 'culture' (which although I dont like either) of the traditional manager that most playesr are brough up on and are used to. Did not like their 'free' hand on transfers based on suspicions of 'unnecesssary spending - hense ****ed of a few who left with replacements resulting in wasted money /additional spending anyway... its a subtle black art that he never learned - as long as the manager thinks he is in control, or the relationship is open and honest its OK, but LOwe's paranoia did see the end of a few.

 

6. Hes gone - we move on, its agame afterall.

[John B]

My definitive take on Lowe:

 

1. Not out of spite - out of despiration to make good, but no plan B for when revenues did not meet forecast - as a result of poor perfromances ensuring declining gates

 

2. Arrogance and ego that drove some of the few successes, also wrecked or prevented even good ideas and concepts from working - eg, Nowt wrong with SCW at SFC - major problem with Timing, communication, role clarification and getting buy in from existing employees, media and fans...

 

3. Made no real effort to win fans over - which would have made fans more receptive to some of his ideals - open constructive dialogue would have benefitted all, but that needs to be based on trust and mutual respect - Lowe never admitting mistakes or errors of judgemnet and public gaffs means no trust or respect.

 

4. Prudence: hated by some as showing 'no ambition' - agian because approach, budget, forecast was badly communicated, but for me one of the few good things - refused to be sucked into the high risk spend culture in the premiership - and lived within our means - something that ALL clubs should be FORCED to do IMHO.

 

5. Managers - failed to grasp the 'culture' (which although I dont like either) of the traditional manager that most playesr are brough up on and are used to. Did not like their 'free' hand on transfers based on suspicions of 'unnecesssary spending - hense ****ed of a few who left with replacements resulting in wasted money /additional spending anyway... its a subtle black art that he never learned - as long as the manager thinks he is in control, or the relationship is open and honest its OK, but LOwe's paranoia did see the end of a few.

 

6. Hes gone - we move on, its agame afterall.

 

Yes I agree but I think innpoint 3 - He had no chance with the large majority of fans because what ever he did for the good was not believed.

 

Point 5 I totally agree but I am not certain we can ever have the traditional manager approach today as they change so frequently and the board probably dont trust them to spend money wisely.

 

 

It is ironic that Burley's unwise spending has caused so much of the problem

[SaintRichmond]

Bloody idiots!!!!

 

Barclays are the reason we are in administration - they refused to continue with the overdraft. Or was that down to Lowe as well?

 

A company does not go into administration out of spite..........Osman is either telling lies or extending the truth. A company cannot continue trading whilst insolvent (basically not enough money to pay bills, employees, etc): this is against the law and especially bad for a listed company.

 

So that piece is absolute ******.

 

Some of you need to grow up, stop seeing the boogey man and worry more about whether we have a club to support next season.

 

And YOU have to grow up and realise just what a nasty piece of work Lowe is

 

I do NOT believe that going into Administration when we did was Necessary

 

Banks and the like view things LONG TERM

 

WHY pull the plug at such a critical time in the season

 

Ironically, for me, it was one of thye very few ways that Lowe would go ..... but BEWARE .... he went before, and came back thanks to Judas Wilde

 

Lowe DOES have a (devious) Brain, and does evrything for a REASON. I am convinced that he WILL be coming back, most likely when our Relegation is confirmed, and all of the "30 Plus" Interested parties melt away from taking over a Division 1 Club

 

Enter Lowe, with another "no money for Football" Consortium, to come back and save the Club he Lowes

 

That should ensure Big crowds in Div 1

y

[Frank's cousin]

And YOU have to grow up and realise just what a nasty piece of work Lowe is

 

I do NOT believe that going into Administration when we did was Necessary

 

Banks and the like view things LONG TERM

 

WHY pull the plug at such a critical time in the season

 

Ironically, for me, it was one of thye very few ways that Lowe would go ..... but BEWARE .... he went before, and came back thanks to Judas Wilde

 

Lowe DOES have a (devious) Brain, and does evrything for a REASON. I am convinced that he WILL be coming back, most likely when our Relegation is confirmed, and all of the "30 Plus" Interested parties melt away from taking over a Division 1 Club

 

Enter Lowe, with another "no money for Football" Consortium, to come back and save the Club he Lowes

 

That should ensure Big crowds in Div 1

y

 

Just a tad paranoid ;-) but Ok lets assume you are right - Whats in it for him? Why would he put himself through all that abuse that would naturally follow? Ther is no money to be made and no ego massage because its hardly glamourous and the fans will give him stick from day one - so cant see this at all - thankfully.

[SaintRichmond]

Just a tad paranoid ;-) but Ok lets assume you are right - Whats in it for him? Why would he put himself through all that abuse that would naturally follow? Ther is no money to be made and no ego massage because its hardly glamourous and the fans will give him stick from day one - so cant see this at all - thankfully.

 

 

Wilde joined forces with Lowe to regain control. We have yet to discover the real reason as to why.

 

As you say, not a lot of money in Football, so it had to be something else

 

As regards "abuse" etc, it's never phased him before. He has always stated he is NOT there for us Football Customers

 

Question ..... As it is now, what is Lowe's "rating" in the City ?? ... To us mere mortals, he has just overseen yet another Company Failure. He went to great lengths on TV, to exclude himself of all blame re SFC, and threw in the sick "I'm not liked because I have a name of Rupert, am an ex Public School boy, and come from a different Class" ...... How sick was that ??

 

He also said he would come back if he could help, because he still loved the Club ....... " White man speak with forked tongue "

[Frank's cousin]

Wilde joined forces with Lowe to regain control. We have yet to discover the real reason as to why.

 

As you say, not a lot of money in Football, so it had to be something else

 

As regards "abuse" etc, it's never phased him before. He has always stated he is NOT there for us Football Customers

 

Question ..... As it is now, what is Lowe's "rating" in the City ?? ... To us mere mortals, he has just overseen yet another Company Failure. He went to great lengths on TV, to exclude himself of all blame re SFC, and threw in the sick "I'm not liked because I have a name of Rupert, am an ex Public School boy, and come from a different Class" ...... How sick was that ??

 

He also said he would come back if he could help, because he still loved the Club ....... " White man speak with forked tongue "

 

The Wilde coming back is obvious to me (although naturally only speculation) - he did not like what he was hearing about losing control of decsions made on realisation of assetts - especially teh Jacksons farm situation - if there was going to be developments on this sort of scale, he wanted in - and wanted be in control of the bids and tenders - well thats my speculation anyway.

 

Lowe...what about Rupert Lowe? He is certainly a glutton for punsihment and I am not sure how many times he would venture back to try and prove himself, that his methods and strategies will work. Its that aspect that I can understand - he does not want to give up , wants to be seen as the guy who put the mess right - the sentiment is honorable - but given the imapct it would have negatively on teh club, its the last thing he should do IF as he says he does want to help - If he wants to help, he sghould stay well away - sure help tap up anyone who might be interested but DONT get involved - there is too much pain and water on that particular bridge whetehr all justified or not.

 

Did he/does he care about SFC ? TBH I think and believe he does - I have some anecdotl evidence to that effect from footballing discussions held between lowe and one of his staff in Oxfordshire, that he grew to be a fan and that his prodest moment was seeing the sea of yellow at Cardiff etc. BUt loving teh club is not enough and as someone once said - if you love something, set it free!

[solentstars]

Wilde joined forces with Lowe to regain control. We have yet to discover the real reason as to why.

 

As you say, not a lot of money in Football, so it had to be something else

 

As regards "abuse" etc, it's never phased him before. He has always stated he is NOT there for us Football Customers

 

Question ..... As it is now, what is Lowe's "rating" in the City ?? ... To us mere mortals, he has just overseen yet another Company Failure. He went to great lengths on TV, to exclude himself of all blame re SFC, and threw in the sick "I'm not liked because I have a name of Rupert, am an ex Public School boy, and come from a different Class" ...... How sick was that ??

 

He also said he would come back if he could help, because he still loved the Club ....... " White man speak with forked tongue "

 

the reason he came back is in the company accounts the club had run up massives debts the last 2 seasons and was going bankrupt hence the firesale and loans of players out.

ruperts biggest fault was not keeping pearson has manager.

[John B]

We released 14 players in the summer, many high earners. The replacements were certainly a lot cheaper even if not warranted but gaps had to be filled. As for the Morgan transfer I thought that figure was 'in total' and not the signing on fee.

 

I agree with you but most of the fans do not seem to have grasped the fact that as we had less money we would probably have to buy inexperienced players.

 

Wotton was bought in as an experinced old pro to assist the youngsters

[SaintRichmond]

the reason he came back is in the company accounts the club had run up massives debts the last 2 seasons and was going bankrupt hence the firesale and loans of players out.

ruperts biggest fault was not keeping pearson has manager.[/QUOTE]

 

 

 

And, for me, his most Predictable move .... what a wonderful Business move that was ?? ...... No, not even that ......"Crouch hired him, so I'll fire him"

 

The definitive Knee Jerk reaction ...... from an absolute Jerk

[OldNick]

ruperts biggest fault was not keeping pearson has manager.

Amen to that.I liked the way the fans were united behind NP from all sides.A massive advantage, and RL was on a no lose to keep him.It was an act of stupidity and in the end has cost us all dear.It is difficult to say 100% he would have done much better.

[Frank's cousin]

the reason he came back is in the company accounts the club had run up massives debts the last 2 seasons and was going bankrupt hence the firesale and loans of players out.

ruperts biggest fault was not keeping pearson has manager.[/QUOTE]

 

 

 

And, for me, his most Predictable move .... what a wonderful Business move that was ?? ...... No, not even that ......"Crouch hired him, so I'll fire him"

 

The definitive Knee Jerk reaction ...... from an absolute Jerk

 

To be fair, this was on the cards BEFORE Pearson had been kept us up - Wilde alluded to a continental approach back in early April last year, so perhaps not just down to 'Crouch hired. Lowe fired' - I think its a bit naive to believe that these guys are making these decsions to be vindictive - I think Lowe just thought it was the right way to go - youth, Ajax type model - logical from that perspective, but maybe it should have been more obvious to him that in teh CCC rough and tumble it was not going to work? Who knows, it showed early promising signs in the type of football being played, and I hoped and believed perhaps naivly that the results would come....

 

... naturally the more success Pearson has the more stupid the decision looks - had JP managed to achieve something, that would have been vindicated - but its on these decsions that reputations are made or destroyed I guess.... Its a bastard world! ;-)

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[John B]

Amen to that.I liked the way the fans were united behind NP from all sides.A massive advantage, and RL was on a no lose to keep him.It was an act of stupidity and in the end has cost us all dear.It is difficult to say 100% he would have done much better.

 

Yes but if results did not come they would have been on his back.

 

He may have done well he may not have we just dont know.

 

You would have thought that last season we would have done better but we did pretty badly

[ottery st mary]

Yes but if results did not come they would have been on his back.

 

He may have done well he may not have we just dont know.

 

You would have thought that last season we would have done better but we did pretty badly

 

Scudamore already suggests Saints fans have been on Nigels back:rolleyes:

Edited 20 April, 2009 by ottery st mary
too many already

[ottery st mary]

Scudamore already suggests Saints fans have been on Nigels back:rolleyes:

 

Or even the other way round....Sorry scudey..You public school Rupert types get me all a quiver:D

[OldNick]

Yes but if results did not come they would have been on his back.

 

He may have done well he may not have we just dont know.

 

You would have thought that last season we would have done better but we did pretty badly

but Lowe could have said i tried the fans choice but it hasnt worked we had better try another way.The fans would then have accepted that

[sidthesquid]

19C,

 

you really are a complete numpty at times

 

Duckhunter has already responded regarding the breach of overdraft.

 

This is the £500k that Lowe should have taken from Swansea in Jan that would have seen us safe until the end of the season

 

http://www.thisishampshire.net/sport/hampshiresport/4094249.Swansea_refuse_to_increase_Dyer_bid/

 

For all any of you know it was a small amount up front with add ons over two/three years - that is quite common practise & sadly not much use to us in the current situation