derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I understand that agreement has been reached with Swansea that Nathan Dyer will join them on a permanent transfer when the summer transfer window opens. The agreed fee is not being paid until the transfer but underwrites the club's present position with the bank, and I believe definitely keeps the club from administration this season. Don't ask the source.
Scummer Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Derry, I'd suggest that you keep information like this under your hat, or leave it to other people to reveal. We've seen far too many well meaning people fall into the trap of leaking information to this site over the past couple of years. You're opening yourself up to abuse from certain people on here.
Rational Rich Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I understand that agreement has been reached with Swansea that Nathan Dyer will join them on a permanent transfer when the summer transfer window opens. The agreed fee is not being paid until the transfer but underwrites the club's present position with the bank, and I believe definitely keeps the club from administration this season. Don't ask the source. Is there any word on the amount of the fee? At last Nathan Dyer shows his worth to SFC!
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Whats the source ? Makes sense, shame we can't keep him looks like he is begginning to do well.
Scudamore Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 What would happen if Nathan did a David Busst this weekend?
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Any idea what the transfer fee is? Not really, doubt that it will be more than 300K or so.
Bailey Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Well from what derry is saying, I'd say the fee is between 250K and 500K. If it's enough to 'keep the club going' then it must be around that amount. Shame really as Dyer has potential which he's started to reach whilst on-loan at Swansea. He never really got going here at Saints, but on the other hand he wasn't really given a fair run in the side.
Guided Missile Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Not really, doubt that it will be more than 300K or so. I still say that Madonna would have paid at least a million...
TheSaint75 Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I still say that Madonna would have paid at least a million... LOL, nearly peed meself
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 Derry, I'd suggest that you keep information like this under your hat, or leave it to other people to reveal. We've seen far too many well meaning people fall into the trap of leaking information to this site over the past couple of years. You're opening yourself up to abuse from certain people on here. I'm not leaking information it came from a media source but too late for today's paper. I understand the fee is circa £500k.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 this is just why administration is a disaster for us fans. Swansea have got the best end of the deal.In jan(at that stage the club did not need to sell as they had the bank on board) they may have paid in the region 0f 400-500k ,now they have us over a barrel it will be sub 250k and we also will not have the advantage of a bidding war with other interested parties. Rasiak will be viewed the same by Watford.Add to deductions taken by the administrator in fees on the transaction gives us even less.This is the thin edge of the wedge sadly.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I'm not leaking information it came from a media source but too late for today's paper. I understand the fee is circa £500k.If the fee is that then the administrator has done a marvellous deal. I find that hard to believe as Swansea wouldnt pay the 500k in Jan.
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 If the fee is that then the administrator has done a marvellous deal. I find that hard to believe as Swansea wouldnt pay the 500k in Jan. The club has done the deal the administrator can't be seen to be connected.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 The club has done the deal the administrator can't be seen to be connected. would that be David Jones, Ken Tointon, or the tea lady??
trousers Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 The club has done the deal the administrator can't be seen to be connected. Was just about to mention that it would have to be seen as such....
trousers Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I'm not leaking information it came from a media source but too late for today's paper So, we're looking for a newspaper without an interweb site that then...? Sounds like it might be worth me having a root around in the loft for my scanner tonight then....
bridge too far Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 (edited) So, we're looking for a newspaper without an interweb site that then...? Sounds like it might be worth me having a root around in the loft for my scanner tonight then.... Just don't wear a short-sleeved shirt whilst doing so Oh and wear ear(lobe) defenders Edited 16 April, 2009 by bridge too far Afterthought
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 So, we're looking for a newspaper without an interweb site that then...? Sounds like it might be worth me having a root around in the loft for my scanner tonight then.... It's not in the loft, it's in the roof.
trousers Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 It's not in the loft, it's in the roof. Which part of the roof space? (You watch, I'm gonna win this one if it kills me....)
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Which part of the roof space? (You watch, I'm gonna win this one if it kills me....) Who's talking about roof space, roof space was never mentioned, the scanner is in the roof, ie actually part of the structure protecting the erection from the infiltration of the elements.
trousers Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Who's talking about roof space, roof space was never mentioned, the scanner is in the roof, ie actually part of the structure protecting the erection from the infiltration of the elements. No wonder Torbay Saint's mate had all that trouble getting it down then. So, that Wolves chap could still be looking to buy us and no-one would be any the wiser.
SoccerMom Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 He never really got going here at Saints, but on the other hand he wasn't really given a fair run in the side. TBF most of the time his was injured or on bail... As far as I'm concerned if his sale keeps the club afloat until the end of the season then his moral debt to the club is paid in full. Sayonara, Nathan, may your God go with you.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 No wonder Torbay Saint's mate had all that trouble getting it down then. So, that Wolves chap could still be looking to buy us and no-one would be any the wiser. I thought it strange at the time, then again we have solar panels in our roof so I just supposed that the scanner had some sort of useful role in the matter. Did passport photos of passing sparrows or something.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 The club has done the deal the administrator can't be seen to be connected.I can see the reasoning behind that. I wonder why the club can sell assets when its holding company is in talks with potential investors and selling an asset may be seen as moving the goalposts.Its like selling a house with carpets included and then them being sold afterwards.
Scudamore Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I can see the reasoning behind that. I wonder why the club can sell assets when its holding company is in talks with potential investors and selling an asset may be seen as moving the goalposts.Its like selling a house with carpets included and then them being sold afterwards. More like viewing a house deciding you like the carpet. Then being told over the phone that the carpet will be taken. It's not as if Nathan Carpet is being sold on the sly if it's in the papers.
dubai_phil Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Makes no sense worded as it is Derry. Dyer is an (intangible) asset of the football club. I cannot see how an asset could be pre-sold at the beginnning of the whole potential bidding process IF a consortium is looking at buying us, THEY may want to decide on the value or otherwise of the playing squad. Sure it would make sense as a back-up plan... If this was couched in more careful terms it would seem wiser and more believable... Such as "IF SFC fail to find a buyer for the club by the time the transfer window opens, then an outline agreement has been reached to sell Dyer to Swansea to help keep the club afloat a little longer...."
rpb Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Glad he's gone. Were you glad when Jones went too? How about Fuller, Davies, Delap, Higgy, etc.?
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 Makes no sense worded as it is Derry. Dyer is an (intangible) asset of the football club. I cannot see how an asset could be pre-sold at the beginnning of the whole potential bidding process IF a consortium is looking at buying us, THEY may want to decide on the value or otherwise of the playing squad. Sure it would make sense as a back-up plan... If this was couched in more careful terms it would seem wiser and more believable... Such as "IF SFC fail to find a buyer for the club by the time the transfer window opens, then an outline agreement has been reached to sell Dyer to Swansea to help keep the club afloat a little longer...." I think it maybe needed guarantees that the bank would accept. SLH is in administration, but I'm sure any potential buyer would support any move to keep the club from administration and the definite points deduction it would bring with it.
bridge too far Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I can see the reasoning behind that. I wonder why the club can sell assets when its holding company is in talks with potential investors and selling an asset may be seen as moving the goalposts.Its like selling a house with carpets included and then them being sold afterwards. I expect there'll be some double entry going on (if you'll pardon the expression). In other words, yesterday SFC was worth £x,500,000 (including Dyer), today it's worth £xm + £500K additional cash received for Dyer. Same difference, really.
Pancake Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I expect there'll be some double entry going on (if you'll pardon the expression). Coffee on laptop moment!
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 More like viewing a house deciding you like the carpet. Then being told over the phone that the carpet will be taken. It's not as if Nathan Carpet is being sold on the sly if it's in the papers.Not at all, if you are buying the house with carpets included and then they are sold you then have to renegotiate the price.That would immediately ut people off wishing to offer
Scummer Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Not at all, if you are buying the house with carpets included and then they are sold you then have to renegotiate the price.That would immediately ut people off wishing to offer What if the people sell the carpets, but then leave the money they got for them on the kitchen worktop? You haven't actually lost out.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I expect there'll be some double entry going on (if you'll pardon the expression). In other words, yesterday SFC was worth £x,500,000 (including Dyer), today it's worth £xm + £500K additional cash received for Dyer. Same difference, really. it depends what they value him at compared to the price achieved.I suggest any sales would be at a firesale price wheras people coming in would not need to be doing so.It doesnt make sense to me, whats new there you may say, ps shouldnt you be off thinking up how to smear people on e-mail...only kidding BTF
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 I did hear that we were desperately close on Friday. If that gets the bank off our backs through the fee being guaranteed on a certain date then that is a result in itself.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I did hear that we were desperately close on Friday. If that gets the bank off our backs through the fee being guaranteed on a certain date then that is a result in itself. desperately close to what?? Southampton FC in admin?, a rose by any other name.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I did hear that we were desperately close on Friday. If that gets the bank off our backs through the fee being guaranteed on a certain date then that is a result in itself. Desperately close to what? I thought as we were in administration you are protected in ways from the banks or other creditors
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 Desperately close to what? I thought as we were in administration you are protected in ways from the banks or other creditors The football club company is not in administration. I think Wellington summed it up with what he said after Waterloo.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 The football club company is not in administration. I think Wellington summed it up with what he said after Waterloo.Was Wellington in administration? What was his quote Derry?
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 Was Wellington in administration? What was his quote Derry? Along the lines of a desperately close run thing.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Was Wellington in administration? What was his quote Derry? Nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won Standard issue for all 4th formers in my day.Mind you meejah studies hadn't been invented to infest the school cursus then.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Along the lines of a desperately close run thing. ah right that one. It has been a damned nice thing - the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life, by God!
derry Posted 16 April, 2009 Author Posted 16 April, 2009 ah right that one. It has been a damned nice thing - the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life, by God! That'll do, sums it up nicely, but much more eloquently,
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 That'll do, sums it up nicely, but much more eloquently, The Duke of Boot was quite an orator apparently.
Andy_Porter Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Were you glad when Jones went too? How about Fuller, Davies, Delap, Higgy, etc.? Very glad when we got rid of Jones and Fuller, upset about the other four.
trousers Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 I expect there'll be some double entry going on (if you'll pardon the expression).
trousers Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 What if the people sell the carpets, but then leave the money they got for them on the kitchen worktop? You haven't actually lost out. But what if you then remember you haven't paid the milkman for 3 months and have to raid the money on the kitchen work top to pay him when he next calls?
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 But what if you then remember you haven't paid the milkman for 3 months and have to raid the money on the kitchen work top to pay him when he next calls? Milkmen don't give 3 months tick. 2 weeks and you get no milk, 3 weeks and they pour a pint of sour gold top through the letter box.
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2009 Posted 16 April, 2009 Very glad when we got rid of Jones and Fuller, upset about the other four. Thats football for you Id be the other way around.Fuller and Jones are good footballers and would be a good partnership up front and I was sad they both went.Fuller was never given a chance to feel welcome here and now he has shown in the PL that he is a good forward. Dyer will turn out to be another good player and we will fret one day why we didnt keep him
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