Not happening, is it ???

[Amesbury Saint]

I think we will be ok in the end.

 

I actually do not agree with the assumption that buyers will wait until knowing which division we will be in. There are only three possibilities

 

1. CCC

2. L1

3. L1 with -10

 

So the buyer will just say

 

if its CCC = say £5m

if its L1 = say £3m

if its L1 with -10 = say £2m

[Legod Third Coming]

I think we will be ok in the end.

 

I actually do not agree with the assumption that buyers will wait until knowing which division we will be in. There are only three possibilities

 

1. CCC

2. L1

3. L1 with -10

 

So the buyer will just say

 

if its CCC = say £5m

if its L1 = say £3m

if its L1 with -10 = say £2m

 

 

Knock the ms off and you might be onto the right sort of valuation!!!

[saintsmike25]

We have a great stadium, and potentialy a great fan base, yet 2 weeks after administration is called, the only likely buyer of a club asset is the f**king council.

 

Is this adminstrator doing his f**king job properly ?

 

Ah such positive fans like you really help the club out in it's our of need. You don't even go to the games, you just sit on the internet moaning non-stop about your apparent beloved Southampton FC.

But lets face it you're not a fan you just **** everyone else off with your non-stop whinging.

[John Smith]

 

At the end of the day we are where we are because of the hysterical reaction by the likes of yourself at the return of Lowe and your decisions like many to boycott the club instead of supporting it through one of its most traumatic periods in its history.

 

You threw your toys out of the pram and continue to blindly ignore the reality of what went before that hamstrung us from the day that Lowe came back and at the same time you decided to walk away without giving anyone a chance. Why did you choose to do that? So you could make yourself look like some kind of smug smartar5e juggling the facts to suit his own agenda. Well done objective achieved but I guess you overlooked the fact the club may go out of business or be starting in League in 16 months time.

 

With respect you have a degree of responsibility for this mess along with Lowe and all the other factors which makes your hissy fits somewhat harder to take than those who were vehemently against Lowe but still continued to define the role of a true supporter where they were not restricted by economic or geographic restructions. What have you achieved John this season?

 

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

[Frank's cousin]

You cant Blame fans for administration and not going, but the size of our fanbase must ahve been over estimated when assessing the budget because we obviously exceeded our income - and so we were in this position because we never got the numbers the club expected or because the club overspent based v the actual revenues - its the onld classic vicious circle - fans wnat success and to see ambition - which the club can only truely demonstrate by spending big on decent playesr and having a wage policy that attracts the best in teh division - this leads to success and a league position and results that attract fans to the games - which funds teh said wage/player purchase policy - simple really ;-)

[alpine_saint]

You cant Blame fans for administration and not going' date=' [b']but the size of our fanbase must ahve been over estimated when assessing the budget because we obviously exceeded our income[/b] - and so we were in this position because we never got the numbers the club expected or because the club overspent based v the actual revenues - its the onld classic vicious circle - fans wnat success and to see ambition - which the club can only truely demonstrate by spending big on decent playesr and having a wage policy that attracts the best in teh division - this leads to success and a league position and results that attract fans to the games - which funds teh said wage/player purchase policy - simple really ;-)

 

Wow - a condemnation of Lowe

[aintforever]

You cant Blame fans for administration and not going' date=' but the size of our fanbase must ahve been over estimated when assessing the budget because we obviously exceeded our income - and so we were in this position because we never got the numbers the club expected or because the club overspent based v the actual revenues - its the onld classic vicious circle - fans wnat success and to see ambition - which the club can only truely demonstrate by spending big on decent playesr and having a wage policy that attracts the best in teh division - this leads to success and a league position and results that attract fans to the games - which funds teh said wage/player purchase policy - simple really ;-)[/quote']

 

Or you could be really cunning and hire a good manager who gets the best out of crap players.

[Wade Garrett]

You cant Blame fans for administration and not going' date=' but the size of our fanbase must ahve been over estimated when assessing the budget because we obviously exceeded our income - and so we were in this position because we never got the numbers the club expected or because the club overspent based v the actual revenues - its the onld classic vicious circle - fans wnat success and to see ambition - which the club can only truely demonstrate by spending big on decent playesr and having a wage policy that attracts the best in teh division - this leads to success and a league position and results that attract fans to the games - which funds teh said wage/player purchase policy - simple really ;-)[/quote']

 

Attendances haven't been a problem for the past two home games. I wonder why....

 

Fans do want success that is true. The vicious circle scenario is fair as well. However, I am sure our 'bottomed out attendance' in the future will be higher than it was this season before administration, regardless of what division we will be playing in.

[Wade Garrett]

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

F*ck me, I stopped going to matches and have been threatened with redundancy. I'm obviously in the wrong game.

[um pahars]

You cant Blame fans for administration and not going' date=' but the size of our fanbase must ahve been over estimated when assessing the budget because we obviously exceeded our income - and so we were in this position because we never got the numbers the club expected or because the club overspent based v the actual revenues - its the onld classic vicious circle - fans wnat success and to see ambition - which the club can only truely demonstrate by spending big on decent playesr and having a wage policy that attracts the best in teh division - this leads to success and a league position and results that attract fans to the games - which funds teh said wage/player purchase policy - simple really ;-)[/quote']

 

I would put it slightly differently (but in the same vein).

 

As a steady Championship side I reckon we could pull in 18,000 - 23,000 who know where we are in the footballing pyramid and would accept some decent honest football with a modicum of success. I don't think they would need to see big signings, big wages as you suggest. I think to drive attendances up further than 23,000 you would indeed need to show some ambition, success or generate a real spirit of unity.

 

But what Lowe did was to undo this potential by employing a total no-hoper who failed to get results, so in turn our attendances (and associated revenues) fell to the 13,000 to 18,000 level. Lack of success on the pitch drove attendances and the associated financial problems, not the other way round, IMHO.

 

What Lowe's actions did, directly and indirectly, was to lower attendances to a position where things were unsustainable. All hypothetical and IMHO of course, but although attendances are affected by a myriad of outside influences, the single biggest influence is success on the pitch, and under Poortvliet/Lowe we did not deliver.

[alpine_saint]

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

Trying to figure out the point in this post. For some reason, Harry Enfield waving a pile of twentys and going "LOADSAMONEY" comes to mind..

 

It was little too much information, dude...

[John Smith]

Trying to figure out the point in this post. For some reason, Harry Enfield waving a pile of twentys and going "LOADSAMONEY" comes to mind..

 

It was little too much information, dude...

 

I hope it didn;t come across as LOADSAMONEY, because I certainly haven't! But what I have, I have worked hard for, was the message I was trying to get across.

 

Also, I was just covering everything so that I didn't have to continually defend my actions of not attending, it get's boring, as I hope constantly referring people to this post will get for them.

 

It was a lot of detail, but I think everything is covered now, and, as a bonus, it looks as if 19C is taking time to respond, thus preventing him from trolling elsewhere on this forum.

 

I think you'll join me in my interest in 19C response, I have a feeling it will be full of insults and claims of all sorts. But, he might surprise us and actually step down from this argument with me and let me live my life how I choose to, not how he wants me to?

 

And as this is my last post of the day, he's going to have to waqit a long time for me to reply, if I bother to at all.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

I'm a Billy Big B0llocks too John...but I don't go showing off about it.

[Crouchie's Lawyer]

I would have seriously lolled if you had got to the end of that mamouth post and the internet had timed out and you lost it all!

 

Fair point though even if it did come across a bit 'look at me'.

 

This comment made me laugh though:

 

And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don't detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don't need to do.

 

Fearing your life after posting on a forum?

 

This isnt the FBI most wanted forum you know, it's a forum discussing SFC!

[Crouchie's Lawyer]

Right I'm off, I have an appointment with a car sales man about buying my third Bugatti Veyron, two just aren't enough!

 

After that I am off to speak with a developer about building my 'Saturday' home for me. Nothing too big, just a small 9 bedroom jobby in the centre of London.

 

Oh and finally I have a date tonight with Charlize Theron, but better keep that schtum as the old ball and strife Jessica Alba wont be too happy to find out!

 

Busy day eh?

 

Laters

[Saint_clark]

Bloody hell, give it time.

[Block 5]

 

I think you'll join me in my interest in 19C response

 

Er no mate...... not at all interested in 19C's response.

Just a suggestion, but try ignoring him.

There's even a handy tool on this forum for doing just that.

Trust me, it works.

[Saint_clark]

I would have seriously lolled if you had got to the end of that mamouth post and the internet had timed out and you lost it all!

 

Fair point though even if it did come across a bit 'look at me'.

 

This comment made me laugh though:

 

 

 

Fearing your life after posting on a forum?

 

This isnt the FBI most wanted forum you know, it's a forum discussing SFC!

 

Speak for yourself 8-[

[Dalek2003]

The sloution to survive is to sell every player at the club at a knock down price and make do next season with what is left.

We may have to accept relegation to League 2 and beyond.

[SaintRobbie]

We have a great stadium, and potentialy a great fan base, yet 2 weeks after administration is called, the only likely buyer of a club asset is the f**king council.

 

Is this adminstrator doing his f**king job properly ?

 

[trousers]

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

Missing semi-colon - line 37, row 28

[Wade Garrett]

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

 

You sound like a natural contestant for the next series of The Apprentice.

 

Very well done.

[Big Bad Bob]

We are where we are today because of me?

But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

You're obviously all not what you think you are John otherwise you would have achieved this whilst going to the odd home match!! I mean it's only 23 days out of 365!!

 

So, not only could you have cojones the size of melons but you could have helped save the club too.

 

Shame on you John!!

[Frank's cousin]

Attendances haven't been a problem for the past two home games. I wonder why....

 

Fans do want success that is true. The vicious circle scenario is fair as well. However, I am sure our 'bottomed out attendance' in the future will be higher than it was this season before administration, regardless of what division we will be playing in.

 

Ahr.... but...splutter.... er... no seriously the real test comes next season TBH - there was bound to be a never say die spirit the day after administration and the £15 a ticket had something to do with it - we had also sold well over 23000 BEFORE the board went ;-) end of season stuff etc etc... its easy to get these dar stats to show what you want depending on what else goes with 'em ;-)

[Lets B Avenue]

Congratulaions on your success, John. The sarky replies you have had seem to have forgotten that Slumdance Boast did actually ask "What have you achieved John this season."

 

Dont move to NE Hants as you might end up with a very unpleasant neighbour.

[Frank's cousin]

 

But what Lowe did was to undo this potential by employing a total no-hoper who failed to get results, so in turn our attendances (and associated revenues) fell to the 13,000 to 18,000 level. Lack of success on the pitch drove attendances and the associated financial problems, not the other way round, IMHO.

 

.

 

And I cant argue against the result of that decision as its clear for all to see. I guess the issue I have is what the reponse would have been had it worked, or had it failed with Pearson - part of the problem with this debate, is that its complicated by our guessimate work on fan base - would we sell 27000 STs still staring at relegation IF we had Pearson or someone else? There will undoudtedly be a feel good factor if we are rescued which should mean attendence pick up again for the first few games, but if results dont come quick, the same will happen - we need to allow any owner to set REALISTIC budgets based on bottom line gates WITHOUT then being subject to constant barrages of having no ambition as lowe was... thats the key, because then if we have the desired success that extra cash is a bonus that can be used to IMPROVE the squad in Jan or in the Summer - an upward trend rather than a static one.

[eurosaint]

We are where we are today because of me? Let me remind you of last summer, it was 'fans' like you that told me my non appearance wouldn;t make the slightest bit of difference to the attendances. It was 'fans' like you that told me I would come crawling back when we got promoted. It was 'fans' like you that told me 'my support was not wanted and I should stay away'. So, now the dust is settled and the club is in admin, exactly what fans like me were saying, you now turn that around and claim it is my fault. Classic.

 

I blindly threw my toys out of the pram? How come? I said, if Lowe returns, I won't. He did, I didn't. I didn't make a song and dance about it, I reiterated my opinion to 'fans' like you several times, because you could not comprehend that someone would not stand by why the man responsible for this whole mess, is now back in charge, promising ridiculous things, like promotion, financial security and Dutch revolution, took us into admin. Let's face facts, I said this would happen with Lowe in charge (I warned of relegation and admin) and I said I would not stand and watch this train crash as some sort of voyeur. Enough was enough, Saints were going to die a horrible death, a disastrous season and Lowe would blame everyone else once more. I cannot support this man, I cannot give him my hard earned cash to make decisions such as JP! The supporters that still go to SMS, I respect, I applaud you, but I could not do it. And in that decision, I didn't criticise the team, nor the players all season.

 

I din;t make this decision to make me look like a smug smartar5e, but because it was what I felt was the right way to show my disapproval. No protesting in the streets, no letters to the board, no aggro, just no show, it is my right to choose and I chose, just in the same way Lowe chose to come back, I chose not to.

 

And for all your chest puffing and boring rhetoric 19C, I hold NO responsibility for where we are today, why? Because I am no longer a 'customer' of SLH. If I am not a customer, how can I be responsible? Am I a shareholder? No. Am I an investor? No. Am I a ST holder? No. The most I have to do with Saints now, is on this forum, where I like to talk about things like my first game, where I was when Hillsborough occured, the great goals I've seen, the fantastic wins we've had and the disappointing results. In fact, when this forum stops talking about Lowe, I will halve my postings, and if you check, I am still not a full member and rarely reach my 3 posts a day quota.

 

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

At the end of the day 19C, if I want to go to a game, I will. If I choose to buy a ST again, I will, if I decide to purchase a box, I will, if other commitments mean Saints are lower down on my list and I never return, so be it, I am happy and loving life, I have achieved so much if you look at where I come from and my 'difficulties', and at the end of the day, if that's what it is that winds you up about me 19C, I couldn;t give a flying duck. I do what I do because I choose to, not because someone like you posts ona forum and calls me a few names. 19C, I suggest you too get a life and maybe you;d stop sniping at all of those who make decisions in theirs that upset you so. Get over it, you don;t control me and will not stop me from going to games nor change my mind about not going.

 

Have fun writing your response, I'm sure there will be numerous insults and belittling, but remember this, against all the odds, I succeeded, and I will continue to succeed, because that's what I do, I am a lucky man, and I know it, luck comes my way all the time, and by belittling me, rather than swallowing your pride and realising that I am just and average Joe that has done well, you will show yourself up to be a troll. But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

 

I'm off to read my copy of 'War and Peace' - I prefer short stories !!!

[Guided Missile]

But if you recognise that what I have achieved is what I set out to do when I stopped attending and that I achieved my goal even in this economic downturn, then you'll probably realise that I've done well and should be congratulated, because it hasn't been easy.

Can I just add my sincere congratulations to your many achievements, John. It is rare to read a post of such depth of feeling and may I say, humility.

I think the overwhelming impression I get from your inspiring story is that without the return of Lowe, you would not have had the time nor motivation, to achieve your goals. I hope you can find some way to express your gratitude to our former Chairman, perhaps in the form of a card or maybe a bowl of fruit...

[ottery st mary]

Good on old Rupert he achieved something after all these years.

[SaintRobbie]

Good on old Rupert he achieved something after all these years.

 

LOL , saving all the stay away fans all that hard earnt cash during the start of the credit crunch. Lowe was so forward looking and fan friendly.

[lenwilkins]

...............................................................................one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory......................................................

 

 

Dubai Phil must be thrilled to bits.

[ottery st mary]

Dubai Phil must be thrilled to bits.

 

 

On reading this Phil was last seen at the airport having left his Ferrari, keys in the ignition, and boarding an aircraft...Destination unknown.

[Frank's cousin]

Can I just add my sincere congratulations to your many achievements, John. It is rare to read a post of such depth of feeling and may I say, humility.

I think the overwhelming impression I get from your inspiring story is that without the return of Lowe, you would not have had the time nor motivation, to achieve your goals. I hope you can find some way to express your gratitude to our former Chairman, perhaps in the form of a card or maybe a bowl of fruit...

 

That's the second time today I have fallen off my chair- no one does sarcasm quite like you GM - Classic ;-)

[ottery st mary]

That's the second time today I have fallen off my chair- no one does sarcasm quite like you GM - Classic ;-)

 

Am I getting there, Frank or am I on the wrong side of the fence?:cool:

[dubai_phil]

On reading this Phil was last seen at the airport having left his Ferrari, keys in the ignition, and boarding an aircraft...Destination unknown.

 

OSM I am really getting fed up with all this spin, you KNOW that isn't the case.

 

You should know by now that Eric & I spend every spare afternoon down at the airport carpark. We still have this crazy concept that by filling a container of Ferraris & BMW X5's every week and shipping them to bankers with nice pension plans at a discount that we can earn enough money to save the club.

 

I'd NEVER leave MY Ferrari at the airport...

 

I'd have sent that off in a container months before

 

Still if JS is coming down here could he please bring the international number for Samaritans BEFORE we are televised against Forest. Eric & I won't make it through another night like that.

 

John - give us a pm, we're actually in Dubai which I am sure you have read is a Reality-Free Zone.

 

Make sure you give me a week in advance as I'd need to move Thaksin into Rupert's room for a couple of days.

I have them both on an asylum sublet in a discrete location in a container at Sonapur Labour Camp at the moment.

I have two rooms up there spare though - one is a bit smaller so it will do for Crouchie, not sure about MW's arrival date, think he still has a problem getting any plane other than Flybe.....

 

Meanwhile Karaoke night at Rock Bottoms' tonight I always prefer a few Bullfrogs when the Bullsh** gets too much....

[trousers]

bowl of fruit...

 

A basket would be more apt IMHO

[dubai_phil]

Good grief

 

I just recognised this is word for word what I once received by a PM

 

have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai

 

He also promised to contact me and buy me a beer....

 

You're not Tommac are you???

 

 

(BTW actually - a bloody good post and riposte, well done)

[Frank's cousin]

Am I getting there, Frank or am I on the wrong side of the fence?:cool:

 

Are you on one side or perched on the middle? and which side is the right side? Questions questions its all too much for me... i must go and sit down... ;-)

[RoswellSaint]

Ah such positive fans like you really help the club out in it's our of need. You don't even go to the games, you just sit on the internet moaning non-stop about your apparent beloved Southampton FC.

But lets face it you're not a fan you just **** everyone else off with your non-stop whinging.

 

He may whinge a lot but who says he is not a fan?

[ottery st mary]

Are you on one side or perched on the middle? and which side is the right side? Questions questions its all too much for me... i must go and sit down... ;-)

 

Bring me some dodgy computers.. I've always wanted to be THE Fence.

[Frank's cousin]

Bring me some dodgy computers.. I've always wanted to be THE Fence.

 

Sorry, Alps hs now rechristened me 'Fence's cousin' not very original but enough to work with - bit or remoddelling maybe before I ask Granty boy to change the moniker dont you think?

[Window Cleaner]

Bring me some dodgy computers.. I've always wanted to be THE Fence.

 

the Fence was a Canadian film about bisexual women, still want to be "the fence"

[ottery st mary]

the Fence was a Canadian film about bisexual women, still want to be "the fence"

 

You have never worried about me dressing up in front of you windows..Wots the problem now....Bi the way dosen't make them bad peeps as you always whisper gently in my ear.:cool:

[Window Cleaner]

You have never worried about me dressing up in front of you windows..Wots the problem now....Bi the way dosen't make them bad peeps as you always whisper gently in my ear.:cool:

 

Nothing to do with transvestites OSM, it's about AC-DC women, don't think they dress up at all.I have nothing against them personally, but then I don't know any. I know a few gay women but no bi s

[ottery st mary]

Nothing to do with transvestites OSM, it's about AC-DC women, don't think they dress up at all.I have nothing against them personally, but then I don't know any. I know a few gay women but no bi s

 

Sorry I am obviously at the wrong window....oops my fault.

 

In truth I am far too young to know what all these letters mean:D

[Ludwig]

It just goes to show you can't be too careful!

[tommi]

We have a great stadium, and potentialy a great fan base, yet 2 weeks after administration is called, the only likely buyer of a club asset is the f**king council.

 

Is this adminstrator doing his f**king job properly ?

 

Just last week you were saying how great it was to be in administration and that we had loads of buyers in the pipeline...

 

Be careful what you wish for..........

[teamsaint]

I would be interested to know how much it would cost to run a L1 team.

If the survival of the club is at stake, everything that isn't the first team or that doesn't make money goes- so how much to run SMS and a team?Any Guesses?

 

I Guesstimate £8m.

[Nineteen Canteen]

 

Very funny - is this John's dog waiting to go for a walk?

 

John, you and your family have done very well. I apologise for not reading it all but fell asleep for hours at my desk half way through and now hoping the fuctions key imprinted on my head will fade by the morning. Still if I don't wake up early enough in the morning at least the wife can now press my f5 key.

 

When you're posting from one of the 4 continents, (btw what's wrong with the other 3, are you slipping) do you worry about gamekeepers?

 

Have a nice life but next time you post can you make it an audiobook?

 

Finally, as you have offered the information is it a good thing Mummy takes your 3 year old to a Private School? Mummies round here take their little daughters to the local playgroup and bond with other Mummies and their offspring. Promotes community spirit and prevents boredom in Mummies and precocious brat syndrome in over-educated kids. If you disagree think Bonnie Langford.

[Red and White Army]

Like I said, because of Lowes decision to come back, and my response to not return and people like you tllingme good riddance, I explained that my life would move one and I would embrace life without attending games. And so, to your last point, I have not returned because I have other things to do. I don;t detail them because of idiots like you out there and I would fear for my families life if I detailed my comings and goings in order to justify myself, which I don;t need to do. Rest assured, my family and my work now take up a lot more of my time. I have excelled at work, reigning in awards and thanks from VP's and directors alike, noted on quarterly calls and updates with my dedication and professional abilities in my field. I have received special thanks in these economic times for my ability to bring confidence to a very edgy industry, turning unhappy clients into referenceable clients and also being mentioned commonly on client forums and reccommnded through these forums. In fact, it wouldn;t be a far cry to claim that I am the best in my industry for doing what I do, and I can claim this because that is what thousdands of clients tell my manger and the VP. Not only is this the best they have received from my company, but the best delivery they have witnessed ever in their careers. And yes, I am blowing my own trumpet, but that is what I have been achieving whilst not being at Saints games, working on Saturdays to go that extra mile.

 

Also, with my wife supporting me 100% in my career push, I have been able to treat my wife to some special gifts through my monetary bonuses on top of my quarterly bonuses. I am treating her to her second holiday this summer and we will go away again before the year is out. I have also travelled the world this season and posted on this site from at least 4 continents, one day I will let Dubai Phil know I am in Dubai, but only when this whole Lowe saga is a distant memory. My daughter goes to a private school and a very well respected one and she is only 3. I have investments that are working, even in this climate and I am renewing my car next year as well as upgrading it and buying my wife a new car. I will also be restoring my sports car that is in my garage, which I never get round to doing! And the key for me, and the main reason for probably never being a ST holder again, is because, due to my hard work and endeavor, economic crisis allowing, I will be moving away from the area in order to provide my family with a country life and a house that is a dream of my wife. And I will do it. And now, all this other stuff, family, family outings, holidays, work, hobbies, socialising etc, has replaced my desire ot return to SMS, as I said it would and as people like you told me not to return anyway, so surely everyone is happy?

 

I always knew you were a cnt John, thanks for confirming it. You make Rupert Lowe's ego look like Mother Teresa.