trousers Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 There was an update from the administrator of Southampton Leisure Holdings but no article from either David Jones or Ken Tointon from the Football Club board in yesterday's matchday programme. Why not? Either the Football Club is a separate going concern to the PLC or it isn't....
eurosaint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 I think you'll find that the organ grinders have gone and we are only left with the monkeys !!!!
Window Cleaner Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 I think you'll find that the organ grinders have gone and we are only left with the monkeys !!!! I think you'll find that the 2 man "football club board" knows surprisingly little about football. It would be like me writing about Sloths or Butterflies;
Block 5 Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 There was an update from the administrator of Southampton Leisure Holdings but no article from either David Jones or Ken Tointon from the Football Club board in yesterday's matchday programme. Why not? Either the Football Club is a separate going concern to the PLC or it isn't.... Shhhh........ keep it quiet mate. Don't let anyone know that this is all just a blag!
alpine_saint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Since when has David Jones ever bothered himself with the minor detail that we are a football club ? Does he even go to any matches ? I'd like to know why he didnt quit with Lowe; his culpability for our predicament stands out like a sore thumb.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 (edited) Have I missed something, who is Ken Tointon? Nobody knows, must be some bloke appointed by someone to be on the FC board with Dave Jones.Some sort of Independent Financial Advisor or other. wallah from Southend, looks like his daughter might be a soap star. http://www.ifa-guide.co.uk/essex/westcliff-on-sea/kenneth-tointon-associates-ltd-9885.html Edited 14 April, 2009 by Window Cleaner
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 There was an update from the administrator of Southampton Leisure Holdings but no article from either David Jones or Ken Tointon from the Football Club board in yesterday's matchday programme. Why not? Either the Football Club is a separate going concern to the PLC or it isn't.... Thought Martin Fry said a lot about nothing when it could have been precis down to 5 words: Not much we can say or It's too early to say or we go about our job
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Since when has David Jones ever bothered himself with the minor detail that we are a football club ? Does he even go to any matches ? I'd like to know why he didnt quit with Lowe; his culpability for our predicament stands out like a sore thumb. To busy dealing with calls from those desperate to be in the loop like Stephen Godwin, alledgedly.
eurosaint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Thought Martin Fry said a lot about nothing when it could have been precis down to 5 words: Not much we can say or It's too early to say or we go about our job Isn't he the guy out of Spandau Ballet ???
VectisSaint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 (edited) Looking in Google he is head of some accountancy outfit in Chelmsford, hopefully not connected in any way to the Administrators. Also appears to be father of some minor soap celeb who I have never heard of called Kara :confused: Not clear why we need another accountant on the FC Board, would have seemed more sensible to have someone who knew something about football, but perhaps that is too obvious. Edited 14 April, 2009 by VectisSaint Window Cleaner added more info while I was replying
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Isn't he the guy out of Spandau Ballet ??? ABC - and he is about to shoot his poison arrow
Window Cleaner Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Looking in Google he is head of some accountancy outfit in Chelmsford, hopefully not connected in any way to the Administrators. Also appears to be father of some minor soap celeb who I have never heard of called Kara :confused: Not clear why we need another accountant on the FC Board, would have seemed more sensible to have someone who knew something about football, but perhaps that is too obvious. Looks like "Kara" was Dawn in Eastenders, whatever that might be.http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters_cast/characters/character_dawn_s.shtml poor bloke he'll soon wish he'd thought up a false name.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Isn't he the guy out of Spandau Ballet ??? Thanks for pointing out my error btw. I guess I have been listening to much to the happening beats on Radio Solent and got my Administrators and 80's front men mixed up. Mark Fry does have a touch of the new romantics about him or like a lot of accountants are secret Gary Numan fans who live with their Mums or least that is what I am led to believe about a certain high profile poster.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 ABC - and he is about to shoot his poison arrow Hopefully in your direction.
eurosaint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Thanks for pointing out my error btw. I guess I have been listening to much to the happening beats on Radio Solent and got my Administrators and 80's front men mixed up. Mark Fry does have a touch of the new romantics about him or like a lot of accountants are secret Gary Numan fans who live with their Mums or least that is what I am led to believe about a certain high profile poster. Not to worry 19c, now that you've gotten over the demise of your hero you seem like a nice guy !!!
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Not to worry 19c, now that you've gotten over the demise of your hero you seem like a nice guy !!! Its not my alledged hero I'm worried about, it's the club and I was just in the minority of fans who post on this forum who actually believed Lowe was actually what was needed. A hard nosed arrogant businessman who would be prepared to upset a few for the greater good of the club - it's survival. A desperate solution and in desperate times and had there been a viable alternative to the carrot dangler then I would have taken it. Fact remains if we had averaged 20k as we did and more in the previous and equally poor season then we would be celebrating another successful survival campaign!
bridge too far Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Looks like "Kara" was Dawn in Eastenders, whatever that might be.http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters_cast/characters/character_dawn_s.shtml poor bloke he'll soon wish he'd thought up a false name. And, it seems, she has a sister who was in Hollyoaks :smt102
Scummer Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Looking in Google he is head of some accountancy outfit in Chelmsford, hopefully not connected in any way to the Administrators. He is/was based in the same building as the administrators in Southend, so it's fair to assume that there is some kind of link.
eurosaint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Its not my alledged hero I'm worried about, it's the club and I was just in the minority of fans who post on this forum who actually believed Lowe was actually what was needed. A hard nosed arrogant businessman who would be prepared to upset a few for the greater good of the club - it's survival. A desperate solution and in desperate times and had there been a viable alternative to the carrot dangler then I would have taken it. Fact remains if we had averaged 20k as we did and more in the previous and equally poor season then we would be celebrating another successful survival campaign! I was being flippant 19c, hence the ! I really don't want to go back down the Lowe road and in future I will use the word 'alleged' before 'hero' !
alpine_saint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Do you? I go at every opportunity that presents itself. You know damn well I live abroad. David Jones is a paid official of the club. Its a bit different, and you bloody well know it. Take your trolling elsewhere
SP Saint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Its not my alledged hero I'm worried about, it's the club and I was just in the minority of fans who post on this forum who actually believed Lowe was actually what was needed. A hard nosed arrogant businessman who would be prepared to upset a few for the greater good of the club - it's survival. A desperate solution and in desperate times and had there been a viable alternative to the carrot dangler then I would have taken it. Fact remains if we had averaged 20k as we did and more in the previous and equally poor season then we would be celebrating another successful survival campaign! And there was me thinking that the problem was down to the idiot of a Chairman replacing a good manager with a totally untried experimental system which has completely failed.
Give it to Ron Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Its not my alledged hero I'm worried about, it's the club and I was just in the minority of fans who post on this forum who actually believed Lowe was actually what was needed. A hard nosed arrogant businessman who would be prepared to upset a few for the greater good of the club - it's survival. A desperate solution and in desperate times and had there been a viable alternative to the carrot dangler then I would have taken it. Fact remains if we had averaged 20k as we did and more in the previous and equally poor season then we would be celebrating another successful survival campaign! Survival on the pitch or boardroom and shareholding?
trousers Posted 14 April, 2009 Author Posted 14 April, 2009 Have I missed something, who is Ken Tointon? At the first press conference that the Administrator (Mark Fry) held at SMS a journalist asked him if Lowe an Wilde were still on the Football Club board to which Fry said, "No, they've resigned from both the PLC and Football Club boards". The journalist then asked, "OK, so who is now on the football club board?". To which Mark Fry responded, "David Jones and Kenneth Tointon". (Note: the latter's name was muffled and unclear but someone came up with Ken Tointon as best guess. Mr Tointon just happens to work out of the same building in Southend as the Administrators for Southampton Leisure Holdings...) I still don't understand why the Football Club board isn't in "business as usual" mode for day-to-day activities such as writing chairman's notes in the matchday programme.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 I was being flippant 19c, hence the ! I really don't want to go back down the Lowe road and in future I will use the word 'alleged' before 'hero' ! Sorry Um Pahars as given me emoticon blindness.
VectisSaint Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 At the first press conference that the Administrator (Mark Fry) held at SMS a journalist asked him if Lowe an Wilde were still on the Football Club board to which Fry said, "No, they've resigned from both the PLC and Football Club boards". The journalist then asked, "OK, so who is now on the football club board?". To which Mark Fry responded, "David Jones and Kenneth Tointon". (Note: the latter's name was muffled and unclear but someone came up with Ken Tointon as best guess. Mr Tointon just happens to work out of the same building in Southend as the Administrators for Southampton Leisure Holdings...) I still don't understand why the Football Club board isn't in "business as usual" mode for day-to-day activities such as writing chairman's notes in the matchday programme. Thanks, bit of a concern that there is this closeness between the Administrators running the plc, and the people running the Football Club. Given the FL investigation, I would feel more comfortable if this difference was as great as possible, this seems to me to muddy the waters somewhat.
NickG Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Looks like "Kara" was Dawn in Eastenders, whatever that might be.http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters_cast/characters/character_dawn_s.shtml poor bloke he'll soon wish he'd thought up a false name. no this is her dad http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/characters_cast/characters/character_mike_s.shtml
doughnutman Posted 14 April, 2009 Posted 14 April, 2009 Since when has David Jones ever bothered himself with the minor detail that we are a football club ? Does he even go to any matches ? I'd like to know why he didnt quit with Lowe; his culpability for our predicament stands out like a sore thumb. He was at the wolves game
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